Poll of polls
by iglew on Feb 17, 2008 6:37 PM PST
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PrintOver on the fanpost about the latest format updates, there was an inquiry about making poll votes public. In case you didn't notice, in the new AN, you can go to any user's profile, look in the "recent activity" section, and find out how they voted in any poll. Some have questioned whether this is a good idea.
Responding to the inquiry, Clockwerks explained,
We didn't realize that people would want to keep their vote private. We'd often see people commenting after voting, explaining why they voted one way or the other. If a lot of people don't like the public votes, we can get rid of that.So let's find out:
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double-voting
I just accidentally voted twice. I didn't know that was allowed.
The first time I clicked the "vote" button, nothing happened, so I clicked it again.
formerly known as mdl
As a test,
I just went to another thread with a poll and voted. It did not give me a chance to vote twice. So maybe what I experienced here was a bug related to the fact that I was voting on my own poll on the page that's presented when it's first posted? Or maybe it was just a fluke?
I think you definitely shouldn't be allowed to vote twice. (I didn't do it on purpose! Honest!)
If anyone out there is being scientific, you can subtract one vote from the second option.
formerly known as mdl
I've made a few comments
that, in retrospect, I might have preferred to have posted under user name "anonymous". However, AN does not give me that option. So I live with them. I'm not sure why there would be any difference between comment posting and poll voting.
It's not a big deal one way or the other. I have better things to do than click on users' profiles and see how they voted in some poll.
a lot of voters don't comment
I've seen some polls that have up to 500 votes, and not even close to that many comments. So it seems clear that many voters don't want to discuss which way they've swayed. And while it's true that most polls don't matter, I guess some can be seen as controversial, where a private vote might mean more. But then I again I speak for people I don't know. I almost always comment after voting (and for the record, I still chose the second option).
"Oakland has now increased its payroll to the point that it now ranks third in the Bay Area among all McDonald's franchises.”
-Sandy Alderson, former A’s general manager.
2 cents
I think that with the way things are (tracking poll votes), folks might be less likely to vote in the sillier polls or for the sillier items and that might downgrade our whimsy score. And I like the whimsy.
I voted for the second choice
I don't personally feel skittish with my choices on polls (mainly because I always choose right) even if people see my vote. But I can definitely empathize with those who do not want their vote seen. And to me, that's why we shouldn't have the votes public; for those who don't want them to be.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
I don't mind most of the time if...
my votes are public but I mean what if the poll has a choice of something like: Which smells more Nico or his goat? I wouldn't want my vote to offend anyone human so I would want that private. Public voting could skew the results for lots of polls. People are more honest with privacy IMO.
I'm voting for privacy...
only so that anyone accessing my profile can see that I voted that way.
To reach here
gliding into old age
the decades gone
without ever meeting one person
truly evil
without ever meeting one person
truly exceptional
without ever meeting one person
truly good
gliding into old age
the decades gone
the mornings are the worst.
by Cutthemullet on Feb 18, 2008 1:07 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
And the only reason I recommended this diary
was so I could see if that action would also be logged in my profile. j/k
To reach here
gliding into old age
the decades gone
without ever meeting one person
truly evil
without ever meeting one person
truly exceptional
without ever meeting one person
truly good
gliding into old age
the decades gone
the mornings are the worst.
by Cutthemullet on Feb 18, 2008 1:10 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
indeed, it appears on the profile page
But, I don't see anywhere on this DIARY page (fuck "fanpost"...lame...sounds way less significant than "diary"...I could hear Urban using that exact term to dismiss a worthy dissenting opinion on here..."ah, it's just some fanpost on AN"....I'll rant about this and other changes I dislike in a separate diary) where I can find the list of users who have recommended the diary...tradeoff of more easily accessible poll voting info for a record of recs that's harder to track down? Something like that.
To reach here
gliding into old age
the decades gone
without ever meeting one person
truly evil
without ever meeting one person
truly exceptional
without ever meeting one person
truly good
gliding into old age
the decades gone
the mornings are the worst.
by Cutthemullet on Feb 18, 2008 1:20 AM PST up reply actions
How about "essay"?
Or "position paper"?
What's that, you say? Only I write those? Well, bosh.
I'd suggest "white paper," but that might get the Beane-is-racist crowd up in arms again.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
You could get your own corner of the "fanpost" column...
But there has to be a good middle ground between fanpost and essay..."community thoughts" or something, I don't know. As usual, I'm better at pointing out problems than finding solutions, hah.
Also, if people can see what comments I've recommended, I'd like to be able to see who recommended my comments, like the above ones.
To reach here
gliding into old age
the decades gone
without ever meeting one person
truly evil
without ever meeting one person
truly exceptional
without ever meeting one person
truly good
gliding into old age
the decades gone
the mornings are the worst.
by Cutthemullet on Feb 18, 2008 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
it's a little better
...mainly because I think of any comment, like the one I'm writing right now, to be a "post"...a diary should be distinguished from that. I'd still like to get "fan" out of the name completely, though. Not that we're not fans, but there's a lot of good analysis on here that just seems to deserve better than the label of "fanpost", "fanthought", etc, I don't know.
To reach here
gliding into old age
the decades gone
without ever meeting one person
truly evil
without ever meeting one person
truly exceptional
without ever meeting one person
truly good
gliding into old age
the decades gone
the mornings are the worst.
by Cutthemullet on Feb 18, 2008 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
actually...
4,230 comments and counting...I guess I forget that replies to self do count as separate comments.
To reach here
gliding into old age
the decades gone
without ever meeting one person
truly evil
without ever meeting one person
truly exceptional
without ever meeting one person
truly good
gliding into old age
the decades gone
the mornings are the worst.
by Cutthemullet on Feb 18, 2008 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
which is also why...
I don't like seeing that I've written 20-25 (I forget the exact #) "posts"...no...I've made like 2,000...but those are "comments." But "comments" are "posted"...diaries/AN 3.0 title for diaries are "written." Semantics, yeah, but since I have nothing to offer on the technical side of the testing, here's where I'll pick my spot to criticize
To reach here
gliding into old age
the decades gone
without ever meeting one person
truly evil
without ever meeting one person
truly exceptional
without ever meeting one person
truly good
gliding into old age
the decades gone
the mornings are the worst.
by Cutthemullet on Feb 18, 2008 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Tales from Left Field?
"Oakland has now increased its payroll to the point that it now ranks third in the Bay Area among all McDonald's franchises.”
-Sandy Alderson, former A’s general manager.
hey...
"I'm one of the guys that built the new SB nation" isn't my signature.
Ok, you have to admit this is probably the best...
Viewpoints.
There. That's what I'd support.
To reach here
gliding into old age
the decades gone
without ever meeting one person
truly evil
without ever meeting one person
truly exceptional
without ever meeting one person
truly good
gliding into old age
the decades gone
the mornings are the worst.
by Cutthemullet on Feb 18, 2008 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
thanks
To reach here
gliding into old age
the decades gone
without ever meeting one person
truly evil
without ever meeting one person
truly exceptional
without ever meeting one person
truly good
gliding into old age
the decades gone
the mornings are the worst.
by Cutthemullet on Feb 18, 2008 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
I like "fanpost" just fine,
but if it has to go, "article" makes sense to me. Seems logical, consistent, and intuitive.
Definitely better than "diary".
formerly known as mdl
"Dear Article,
Today Chip looked at me like he 'like-liked' me..."
No, just doesn't work, sorry.
-Cindi
P.S. I love AN 30! Except you can now see basegirl's hair with her comments. No offense or anything, basegirl, but...um...yeah.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
this coming from a guy
with a goat in his bed
"Oakland has now increased its payroll to the point that it now ranks third in the Bay Area among all McDonald's franchises.”
-Sandy Alderson, former A’s general manager.
i voted for ross perot
twice and campaneris for HOF but i don't want anyone to know.
owner of a lonely tarp
is 'remember me' not working for you?
I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation
by Trei Brundrett on Feb 18, 2008 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
It's also not working for me.
I have to log on every time.
"Glitter is the herpes of craft supplies."
same here
hey clockwerks, are we at AN high-maintenance or what? ;)
"Oakland has now increased its payroll to the point that it now ranks third in the Bay Area among all McDonald's franchises.”
-Sandy Alderson, former A’s general manager.
y'all are a very good bunch of beta testers
I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation
by Trei Brundrett on Feb 18, 2008 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
when will the rest of sbnation be making the move?
Other kids may be sayin' hi-ho, but The Gooch just says yo.
over the next couple months
I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation
by Trei Brundrett on Feb 18, 2008 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
For the record
I have not had to re-login yet since the changeover. I'm using Firefox with Windows XP-Pro, in case you are curious.
"Evidently, a large number of people said, 'We really need more vermin at the ballpark, Artie.'" - Nick, 10/7/07
Huh
I'm need to re-login almost every session on the same setup, Firefox on Windows XP (but home edition not Pro). I also have the same thing in Firefox on Mac OS, but it remembers me a little better.
There is an A in Whimsy.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Feb 18, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Dude, I'm pretty sure VHS is going to corner the market.
It's Rhodes Scholar Night at the Coliseum tonight.
heh
To reach here
gliding into old age
the decades gone
without ever meeting one person
truly evil
without ever meeting one person
truly exceptional
without ever meeting one person
truly good
gliding into old age
the decades gone
the mornings are the worst.
by Cutthemullet on Feb 18, 2008 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
oh, and
instead of just chuckling, I might as well make the same complaint...I have to log in every time, too
To reach here
gliding into old age
the decades gone
without ever meeting one person
truly evil
without ever meeting one person
truly exceptional
without ever meeting one person
truly good
gliding into old age
the decades gone
the mornings are the worst.
by Cutthemullet on Feb 18, 2008 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
Watch
he'll fix the log-in for y'all and then it won't work for me anymore. That's the way it seems to be going darn it!
it remembered me!
drinks for all!
"Oakland has now increased its payroll to the point that it now ranks third in the Bay Area among all McDonald's franchises.”
-Sandy Alderson, former A’s general manager.
I almost troll-rated this fanpost ...
... until I realized it wasn't about A.J. Pierzynski.
Even if they're clever, they become stupid with repetition. @('.')@
just make it private
and those that want to share their vote or explanation can leave a comment doing so.
isn't that the easiest and most obvious solution?
you would think
To reach here
gliding into old age
the decades gone
without ever meeting one person
truly evil
without ever meeting one person
truly exceptional
without ever meeting one person
truly good
gliding into old age
the decades gone
the mornings are the worst.
by Cutthemullet on Feb 18, 2008 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Biased poll, iglew -
People who want their votes kept private can only vote that way in your poll knowing that said vote will be made public!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Boy, that's ironic
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
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