Angels Pull Out Of Teixeira sweepstakes
by Blicks on Dec 21, 2008 4:06 PM PST
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PrintThe Angels are out of the Mark Teixeira sweepstakes.
The team has withdrawn its offer to the free-agent slugger, according to a source close to the negotiations.
So, this is good news for the A's, absolutely.
Keeping Teixeira, 28, was the Angels' top priority. The team now figures to explore other free-agent pursuits, including the possible signing of left-handed closer Brian Fuentes.
That's also good. Even if Fuentes' price drops, it is the unnecessary throwing of funds to paying for a closer/relief stud, when Arredondo is more than fitting to do the job. And, it does not address any of the slegnA offensive issues. Which, again, is an excellent idea to begin with. And, Joey Devine will outperform Fuentes in '09 anyways. :-P
Tim Brown of Yahoo also reporting same thing, btw.
I have a feeling both the Angels brass and Beane saw this coming. Angels went out and signed Juan Rivera. Teixeira in a non-slegnA uniform helps level the playing field that is the AL West, which adds an inkling of backing to a Holliday trade. So, the A's chances at contending just went up, without the A's even making another move.
EDIT: Because so many rumors have been debunked this offseason, the LA Times got confirmation from Angels brass themselves. So we can call it official.
Tim Mead, the Angels' vice president of communications, confirmed a foxsports.com report that the team has withdrawn its offer to Mark Teixeira and is no longer pursuing the free-agent first baseman.
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i have to rec this based simply on the title
i may or may not read the actual post. but this is amazing.
"My group runs some frogloks down the hall to finish them off and POP! RASTER! If there was a way to scream louder than caps in EQ I was doing it. Man I am straight panicking because I know I have NO CHANCE soloing and the party has run off. I'm in my hotel room; it's like 5am, and I am straight hollering, in EQ and in real life. Bottom line is the group comes back, heals me, and kills Raster! WOOT!" -Curt Schilling on his favorite memories in the video game "EverQuest"
Well crap, I just made a post of the same thing
which has now been deleted for the sake of non-redundancy
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
Even more reason now
for Beane to go for it! The division is up for grabs Billy……..time to find the brass balls and make your move sir!
Just wanted to add this friends...
I ws gonna add it to my post but figured this was the new hot and sexy thread, but it does pertain to what I had posted previously.
I hope this works….
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove08/columns/story?id=3773437
Nice read, thanks
It just underscores, IMO, that Beane simply did not feel Furcal was worth more than a $40million risk. He has the money to spend and a willingness to spend it, but must not feel Furcal is a good enough to hold up physically.
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BTW, Heyman at SI.com has gotten on board with a me-too story
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
Question for those who might know -
what’s the thinking on the contract offer it will take to land Sheets? How many years is he looking for / insisting on and what annual figure goes with the number of years? I’m asking because with the Holliday/Teixeira moves having closed the offensive gap, to me the A’s are contenders now if they can add a #2 starter – which is NOT easy.
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I think 2/30 gets it done
The interest for Sheets is very low, as far as I’ve seen. Unless a team like the Yankees gets into it, which I’m not sure will happen, the A’s could jump in and snatch him.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
Do it.
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by King Richard on Dec 21, 2008 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
I agree.
If its 2/30, get it done. If the A’s are the only active suitors, it could drop even further, maybe even into 1 year deal range (it would be smart for Sheets to take a 1 year deal to reprove his health, and then go back into a WEAK SP market next year).
With so many green young guys vying for the 2010 rotation(who wants to bet at least some of them are going to need more time in AAA/get hurt/etc.), and Duke gone after 2009, having Sheets around won’t hurt.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
So far Texas is the only team to express interest
And they’ve been pursuing him as actively as the A’s have pursued O-Cab, which is to say, not very hard.
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No...
why pay someone $15 million to be on the DL? Don’t we have enough of those types?
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
He's been on the DL plenty lately
But what his agents have been saying is that the injury he sustained at the end of last year didn’t result in any structural damage to the shoulder, it was just an elbow strain. He’s not one of my favorites, but it’s a big risk-big reward.
I think the A's get him for cheaper than 2/30
since he is quintessentially a reclamation project. Yes, I am rescinding on my prior opinion.
It’s a high risk, high reward move, but if it works, the A’s are pretty much in the playoffs.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
Exactly - it returns us to the nightmare we were
relieved to shed (Rich Harden), but since the departure of Harden/Blanton the rotation has not had enough ace-potential to be part of a contender.
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One more reason for signing Sheets
If Sheets makes it through the 2009 season healthy, or even finishes the season strong, the A’s can trade him after 2009 pretty easily.
Just look at the FA SP market for next year. ALL the frontline guys are huge injury knocks, unless the slegnA let Lackey test the market. A’s could easily trade him, if necessary, and get some sweet spects.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
To me, Sheets is a lot like Duchscherer
He’s very likely to make 20 kick-ass starts, and very unlikely to make 30 starts. You just hope it’s closer to 30 than 20, and really hope it’s at least 20.
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Sheets hasn't drawn much interest
He’s a Type A that was offered arbitration and he was hurt at the end of last year, I’m not sure what his health status is now.
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I like it
When Sheets is healthy hes a stud and a 2 year deal minimizes risk. But ohhh the health issues. Most of his injuries are minor but I don’t think the guy conditions himself at all or even warms up sometimes based on how often he gets hurt and seeing how his personality is being from Milwaukee myself. Tough isn’t exactly a word to describe him.
Gas to Chicago- $23.87 A's/White Sox Tix- $28 Watching the A's whipping the Sox in July 05'- Priceless
giving up a draft pick to sign Sheets
should be part of the negotiations. It is a risk and the A’s give up something on top of giving Sheets a reasonable amount of cash on top of that. Not sure if this ever comes into play or not…….
two words
Rich Harden.
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by DyeLongJustice on Dec 21, 2008 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
Two equally scary words for the front end of the rotation:
Eveland, Braden.
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Six Words
Cahill, Anderson, Mazzaro, Simmons, Gonzalez, Outman
Those are the guys who are set get into the A’s rotation by as soon as Mid 2009 (or perhaps opening day for Outman and Gonzalez)
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i'd rather go with Randy than Sheets though
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by DyeLongJustice on Dec 21, 2008 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
Why would you rather have Johnson?
Other than Johnson being older, throwing less innings at a lower ERA+ last year, and having a bad back?
If you give me a choice of Sheets or Johnson @ 1 year, 10M, I’m picking Sheets.
But your choice isn't Sheets or Johnson @ 1 Year, 10M
Its Sheets for 2-3 years, more than $10M, and the loss of of a draft pick
or
Johnson for 1 year, less than $10M
And remember, we have a LOT of pitching prospects right behind them who could be ready next year to take over.
It would be rather sad if we signed Sheets to a 1 year contract (assuming we could) for a $10 million, lose our 2nd round pick, only to have him get injured agan early in the year and be a non-entity.
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While I agree in principle of your
Johnson over Sheets argument, you’re are far and away over estimating our prospects showing up and actually being ready to take over. At best one (maybe two) show up half way through and will be back of the rotation quality.
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so we should sign Orlando Cabrera then
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by DyeLongJustice on Dec 22, 2008 8:25 AM PST up reply actions
Where did that come from?
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by WaddellCanseco on Dec 22, 2008 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
i figure
if i blurt out “Sign Orlando Cabrera” enough at random intervals, maybe someone will eventually listen to me…or not.
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by DyeLongJustice on Dec 22, 2008 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
but what about the johnson *under* the sheets argument?
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
pass me my crowbar
i have some innuendo to force in
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by alea iacta est on Dec 22, 2008 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Not "crowbar" and "under the sheets" again!
I’d like to just try to forget last Thursday, thank you.
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If sheets come at the same price as Johnson for 2, even 3 years contract
I take it. Assuming Johnson is 10mil/year or less….
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Yeah, I'd be sad if Holliday broke his leg on opening day, too.
There’s risk involved with every transaction.
We could also sign Sheets to (for instance) a 2 year, $20 million contract and he could provide the best 1-2 punch in baseball along with Duchscherer who returns to 2007 1st half pre-injury form, and they lead the team to consecutive division titles in 2009 and 2010.
FWIW, Sheets was offered arbitration and I think he made 12 million this year, so he would be in line for 14 or 15 million or so for one year in Milwaukee if he had accepted. Anyone more familiar with arby increases, any correction is welcome. But I’d guess he could get 15 or so for one year in Milwaukee if he was willing.
It was also a bad, bad read on the market by Sheets/his agent
He would’ve been smart to accept arbi, especially in a market with CC, Burnett, and Lowe in it. Same goes for Garland (since he sucks as a pitcher).
Next year, all the frontline type guys are injury knocks. Guys like Sheets thrive in such markets.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
I think the one year Brewers deal is there regardless
Maybe it’ll happen. Melvin is unusually candid for a GM, but I can’t say anything about what the deal is with Sheets with certainty. My guess is that the door is open for that one year deal and Sheets is looking for 3 from someone at something like 15 per year. If he doesn’t get that, the one year deal as you state makes a whole lot of sense.
Holliday = no significant past injury risk
Sheets = big injury history
Comparing them together is not really useful. Look, if we could get Sheets for a one year deal, then I would be inclined to do it. But, if its 2-3 for 10 mil/per, then I’ll take RJ.
If we signed Sheets, what would happen to our pick if we signed O Cab as well? This may be a selling point to Sheets, depending on what kind of compensation we give up for a second Type _ signing.
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by DyeLongJustice on Dec 22, 2008 8:28 AM PST up reply actions
No, but you can put an X amount of injury risk on any player
it’s just that Sheets has Y amount MORE risk than Holliday. Of course any player, Cal Ripken or otherwise, has a chance of getting injured. It’s the nature of any damn sport (unless, that is, you consider Chess a sport). But I’m pretty sure that arguing that Holliday is as much of an injury risk as Sheets is, right now, is a futile endeavor.
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by DyeLongJustice on Dec 22, 2008 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
and my grammer is spelled good
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by DyeLongJustice on Dec 22, 2008 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
You have obviously never torn a tendon in your finger
while moving a rook.
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I'm not arguing that Holliday is as much of an injury risk as Sheets.
However, I am saying that every player brings some sort of risk. Hell, Furcal was as much of an injury risk as Sheets, being a player dependent on speed and coming off back surgery, and Beane saw fit to give him a 4 year guaranteed contract at age 31.
That said, I still don’t understand preferring a 44 year old Randy Johnson over a 30 year old Ben Sheets if they’re going to cost the same amount yearly (picks notwithstanding). Johnson is older and has a more extensive injury history than Sheets.
but if johnson sucks/injured
hey, he’s on a 1 year deal. if Sheets gets injured/sucks, well he’s on for more than a year.
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by DyeLongJustice on Dec 22, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Unless he signs a 1 year "prove you're healthy" contract.
But I dunno — a couple buddies in my fake online baseball league are huge Brewer fans, and seem to think he’s looking at a 2 or 3 year deal with Texas paying about 12-15M per year.
I’ll pass on that.
well obviously i'm taking Sheets over RJ on a 1 year
the dude is younger and about the same talent wise. but i dont think you’re going to get sheets on a 1 year, so RJ it is for me.
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by DyeLongJustice on Dec 22, 2008 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
no, but his leg was already broken when Beane extended him
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
If you sign two Type As, you lose your first two loseable picks
Since the A’s have a protected first-rounder, they’d lose their second and third round picks.
Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.
so signing Sheets
makes signing O Cab easier (we have already lost our high pick) and vice versa.
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by DyeLongJustice on Dec 22, 2008 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
thank you, and thank you
+1
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by DyeLongJustice on Dec 22, 2008 8:28 AM PST up reply actions
Zonis, I hate to be the downer, but
Randy Johnson is almost certainly not signing with he A’s.
As per my friend Kevin’s post on MCC across the bay:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/12/17/696424/notes-from-tonight-s-insid
Also, I find this hilarious
Only Free Agent mentioned: Randy Johnson. Sabean confirmed they are working hard on a one-year deal. Felt like the deal is inevitable. Also-signing Johnson allows the team the flexibility to trade Sanchez for a bat.
Yes! By signing the 45 year old to a 1 year deal we can FINALLY trade that damn 25 year old lefty who strikes out a batter an inning!!!
I know it looks silly in context
but Sanchez could bring them a nice return on offense, but better yet, Matt Cain would net them something huge, which is what I see happening in the end.
Man, what the hell is wrong with my grammar this morning!
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ghetto Monday brotha!
Too ghetto for me!
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Yeah, but he Baaah-ked at it and signed with the goat.
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they need bats real bad
and who needs young arms? sanchez is easier to part with than matt cain, and sabean has peace of mind with Zito throwing every 5th start.
This is good news and bad news
I hope Manny does not go there. He makes their defense worse but he sure makes the offense better.
They obviously want to spend their money on somebody else. Lets hope they make a fucked up decision
Yeah, before we dub the A's contenders
we need to see who does or doesn’t come to LAA – if Manny, or even Dunn / Burrell gets added, it’s a lot different from if the Angels go forward with their current starting 9. I’m a bit surprised they re-signed Rivera only because unlike the A’s they have a DH spot they could fill with a slugger. Now if they add any of the guys I named, at least they have to put a lame fielder out there.
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ENOUGH OF THIS REALISM
A’S WILL WIN SUPERBOWL NOW FTW
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by alea iacta est on Dec 21, 2008 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
A's will win now for the win?
Is this AN’s “fuck the heck”?
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my joke works on so many levels
there’s probably not space here to explain. here’s point one, though – it’s wet and it’s cold and i’ve been drinking tecate to stay warm
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by alea iacta est on Dec 21, 2008 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
i'll tell you what it is
cheap, tasty and available
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by alea iacta est on Dec 21, 2008 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
Which, coincidentally, describes the best I could do last night.
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I'm pretty sure this is good news for the Angels. Teixeira was getting might expensive for a guy
with a career 134 OPS+ — way more expensive than Dunn. If I’m the Angels I focus on Dunn and maybe get a good 5th starter (Sheets, Lowe, Unit) instead of paying Teixeira like he’s Alex Rodriguez.
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by WaddellCanseco on Dec 21, 2008 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
Sheets and Lowe aren't 5th starters,
They’re #2 starters. But the Angels are pretty set in their rotation – it’s just a matter of whether Saunders and Santana regress or prove to be around as good as they were last year. Escobar is still under contract, too. They should be focused on offense, which is why I’m puzzled that they re-upped Rivera, who hits worse than Dunn, Burrell, or Manny but fields no better.
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Right Sheets and Lowe aren't 5th starters in the sense that they're worse than the other four
starters, but rather that they’d be additions to the four existing starters.
Rivera isn’t an impediment to signing Dunn, Burrell or Manny. Right now their LF/1B/DH options are Rivera, Morales and Mathews. One of the latter two could easily be displaced by someone better.
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by WaddellCanseco on Dec 21, 2008 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
Will the Angels seriously put GMJ on the bench?
Putting Morales on the bench is a good thing, as it hampers his development. And, with the slegnA and their unwillingness to trade prospects, I’d think that they’d be committed to Morales.
So that means GMJ goes to the bench. Dead weight FTW.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
My point about Rivera is that
if the Angels put Rivera, or Dunn/Burrell/Manny out in the field, there will be significant defensive minuses to help offset the offensive pluses. And in Rivera’s case, the offensive plus is nothing like that of Dunn, Burrell, or Manny.
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In their position, I'd sign Manny and put him in LF. He'd be as expensive as
Teixeira but then only for 4 years, not 8, plus he’s a better hitter. I’d also give Morales first crack at 1B. I wouldn’t care that much about hampering his development because it’s not like he’s 26 years old and not exactly a big star. I’d make Rivera DH and Willits a defensive caddy to Manny and Vlad. I’d treat GMJ as a non-entity until he comes back from his knee injury.
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by WaddellCanseco on Dec 21, 2008 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
I meant Morales *is* 26 years old of course
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by WaddellCanseco on Dec 21, 2008 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
I fear that's what the Angels may do
And if they do, I don’t see the A’s being that close to the Angels in 2009’s projected success.
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Depending on their budget they could conceivably sign both Manny and
Giambi, the latter for 1B. Or Dunn if they’re willing to put him at 1B.
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by WaddellCanseco on Dec 21, 2008 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
Crasnick
says that the Rivera signing takes them out of the ManRam market as well, fwiw.
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by DyeLongJustice on Dec 21, 2008 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
I think Vlad is pretty much relegated to DH duties
…seems like only yesterday when he had the full package.
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full package, huh?
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by DyeLongJustice on Dec 21, 2008 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
He used to have speed and of course the cannon arm.
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exactly what i was thinking.
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by DyeLongJustice on Dec 21, 2008 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
Funny how his body just suddenly broke down
And he’s not even really all that old… monkeyball where are you? There’s a conspiracy around here some where.
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by Helloooo 1st on Dec 21, 2008 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
It was hardly sudden
More, it’s been breaking down for years without forcing Vlad out of as many games as one would keep predicting.
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Which is really sad
for as much as i hate the Angles I always love watching Vlad play. He just oozes talent.
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by designatedforassignment on Dec 21, 2008 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
Now's the time to strike.
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I'll go get the pickets, you come up with a good chant
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I'll go get the bowling ball, you pick a lane and some silly shoes.
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Spare me.
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I gotta split anyway.
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Don't want to stay pinned down?
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FREE HAT! FREE HAT! FREE HAT!
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by Helloooo 1st on Dec 21, 2008 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
free kraut!?
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by designatedforassignment on Dec 21, 2008 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
now's the time to strike out
what jack cust says into the mirror every morning.
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by alea iacta est on Dec 21, 2008 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
Hey hey ho ho... you want sheet... i say hell no
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Hey hey ho ho... you want sheets... i say hell no
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That's what I used to say to my last girlfriend.
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Nothing starts a romantic evening like when a guy says,
“Hey hey ho ho.”
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Get your mind out of the gutter!
Oops..wrong subthread…
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S-s-s-ssssssmokin'!!!!
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Look for my upcoming post,
“Is Anaheim Too Rodent?” talking about why free agents won’t sign with the Angels.
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these same teams will want...
holliday after 09…so we’ll likely be in the angels same position as they are now…so i wouldnt get too excited
borass will hype this hype and shop holliday to the highest bidder too
Yeah but the Boras shopping Holliday stuff is inevitable
regardless of who signs Teixeira.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
maybe i have a dirty mind....
but i giggled a little bit when i read “angels pull out of teixeira”…
"My group runs some frogloks down the hall to finish them off and POP! RASTER! If there was a way to scream louder than caps in EQ I was doing it. Man I am straight panicking because I know I have NO CHANCE soloing and the party has run off. I'm in my hotel room; it's like 5am, and I am straight hollering, in EQ and in real life. Bottom line is the group comes back, heals me, and kills Raster! WOOT!" -Curt Schilling on his favorite memories in the video game "EverQuest"
Interesting twist
So what you’re trying to say is that Teixeira is the one who’s fucked
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by Helloooo 1st on Dec 21, 2008 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
So, how much are the Nats gonna pay the bastard, anyway?
"I have more questions after these."-WaddellCanseco
I don't think the Nats get him.
I see it coming down to Yanks and Sawx, with Teixeira getting the original 8/180.
Unless there’s some mystery team involved.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
I'm not sure the Yanks can do it, following the CC and Burnett commitments
If they do, does Swisher move to the OF or does he get flipped? And if he’s flipped, would he be available cheaply enough to make him a good A’s pickup for 1B? (Remember, he’s a very good defensive 1Bman who is good for 20+ HRs – arguably a better “contend in 2009, don’t pay too much”) pickup than Giambi or even Dunn.)
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The Yanks can still add Teixeira
and stay under their 2008 payroll of about 210MM.
With Damon coming off the books after the 2009 season, I could see payroll being kept steady.
I don’t think Swish is flipped. I think he’s kept as a bench player (stupid MFY), and…umm…IDK what’s going on there. He might be flipped. IDK. I think Swisher was simply attained as Teixeira insurance.
Maybe the A’s can get him back, IDK.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
I'd make Swisher RF and Nady a backup to Swisher, Damon and Matsui, playing against all
all lefties.
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by WaddellCanseco on Dec 21, 2008 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
More likely Nady.
Seems like Nady would be the odd-man out in that scenario more than Swisher. Nick is also a solid defensive outfielder still, so the Yankees would probably like to shed Xavier’s 6+ million from the ’09 payroll and improve their outfield defense by moving him.
I remember Nady used to play some 1st while with the Mets AND that Beane once showed interest in him. Would there be any interest in bringing him in for 2009 to add one more right-handed-hitting, Scott Boras-represented impending free agent to the ’09 lineup?
I'm never gonna do it without the fez on!
Morales is the pissed off ex-wife.
and they are married to first base.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
OT:
I just heard today watching the Pats game that Matt Cassel was a baseball player at USC and was drafted by the A’s (36th round 2004). true story
Save Rajai Davis
FIRE Cassel NOW!
i mean…
"I'm on hold for now"- Bobby Crosby
by DyeLongJustice on Dec 21, 2008 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
Think of all those touchdowns we missed out on.
"If I've got baggage, he's got a whole set of Louis Vuitton." ~ Milton Bradley on Barry Bonds
Looking at the 2010 free agent class...
The economy is still going to be bad then, although much more projectable, and the list is so deep. I’m thinking the A’s should stick to 1-year signings….
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Who do you want other than Holliday?
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Dec 21, 2008 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
2010-11 offseason
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Dec 22, 2008 8:10 AM PST up reply actions
Incidentally, the reports of the Angels giving up
all suggest that geography, not money, is the driving factor for Teixeira (who will be paid a truckload no matter which offer he takes). And he, like Holliday, is a Boras client. Boras gets his clients big money, but that doesn’t always mean taking the highest offer just because.
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holliday
he mentioned he trains or lives in socal…so it wont be surprising if angels go after him hard next season
by Asfan4ever723 on Dec 21, 2008 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
barf
I say the A’s swoop in mid-season with a pre-emptive, “Don’t you love playing here? You know, we’re going to be WS contenders for the next few years, and this is the best offer we’ll make” offer of 8/180.
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OK, then...
6/140 or 8/120 – his choice! Who cares, it’s not my money!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
no kidding....
I think 6 years is long enough. If Holliday is offered that by the A’s I don’t see them going more than 140 million which gets Holliday an average of 23.3 million per year. And for the A’s, that would be unheard of!
But, I’d still like to see them try…
If Randy Johnson doesn't work out
what do you guys think of Andy Pettitte? He’s come off an unlucky season where his babip was .339, plus he was pitching in Yankee Stadium and in an offense heavy division, which hurt his stats a bit. He had an FIP of 3.71 He’s pretty under the radar as absolutely NOBODY has mentioned him.
"It's like déjà vu all over again." -yogi berra
nobody will outbid the Yankees...
their fans LOVE Andy.
by vk on Dec 22, 2008 7:45 AM PST up reply actions
I say the A's say no to all the Yankee re-treads
Pettitte is on the very end of his career and Johnson is like Keith Richards in that i passed away like 8-10 years ago, its just no one told him yet. And Giambi for anything more than a 1 yr deal is just pouring money down the drain. I just dont see why the A’s really need these guys. There is enough of what Giambi would bring already on the roster and besides the leadership that Johnson would bring i just dont see why he would help the A’s in 2009.
Johnson is actually still a good pitcher.
Put up a 3.76 FIP, and 3.32 tRA.
I agree with you on Pettitte and Giambi though. No thx.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
And Keith Richards is still pretty good too
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Dec 22, 2008 8:11 AM PST up reply actions
No Pettitte and no Johnson
for me.
Pettitte gets shelled often and RJ is 800 years old, and I already stated how I feel about his ERA ballooning potential.
Makes me wonder
The angels check book is basicly empty this year so does that mean their owner is in a money crunch. Think about it no offer for K-rod and now no Tex. They also lost garland. They have not signed anyone other then resign Riveria to a mid level contract.
I think payroll is staying at 120MM.
I have them right now pegged at about 85MM, not including buyouts, etc (if there are any).
I have a feeling they go after Peavy (which is good, since that’s the emptying out their farm system).
Or they go after one of the Dunn/Burrell crew to play 1B.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
Or Giambi
That would be the cheap way to go. I did forget to mention they lost Garret Anderson too. 4 players is a big loss. If they go after Peavy it would empty their farm system of makor league ready players. the AL west is looking more like the NL west.
Oh. And interest is mutual in terms of Fuentes
which is good good for the A’s.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
Fuentes is good
He is ok as a reliever but still that is overpaying for a average lefty reliever.
Exactly.
Overpaying for a reliever and giving up a draft pick is a move I want the Angels to do.
"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."
well Fuentes is nowhere near average
He’s awesome. Still, I’d like to see the Angels overpay him and give up their pick.
If they add Fuentes, the Angels' bullpen
looks to be as good as Oakland’s. Fuentes, Shields, Arredondo is as good a bet as Devine, Ziegler, Blevins.
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I have an irrational fear
that Ziegler is going to implode next year. I’m pretty sure that won’t happen, but we all know he will regress some. I’m worried his regression will be a lot, since he didn’t exactly kill it towards the end of the season (not that he’s something to laugh at, though).
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by DyeLongJustice on Dec 22, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
Just a few upgrades and we'll be in the mix
SS clearly. Billy must be waiting for the remaining FA SS’s price to drop or for teams to make a few guys available. I like Hardy even after that off year in 08. If we go into the season with Crosby/Penn we’re in trouble.
I still have doubts about 1B but don’t see it mentioned as much. Is Barton going to be able to hit MLB pitching or not? What about Buck to 1B? Longshot? Jason G. could at least stand there but with such a young pitching staff it would hurt them to give away outs.
Then there is the seasoned vet for the bump – that one I think is overblown. Unless we could add a Sheets or another high quality vet we’d likely over-spend.
Baja been here
'08 was not an off year for Hardy
820 ops even after a slow start and competent at ss.
But I don’t see how we get him without bleeding prospects.
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by Buck Turgidson on Dec 22, 2008 10:03 AM PST reply actions
uh, that was a reply to bajablue
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by Buck Turgidson on Dec 22, 2008 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
I'll take a down year like 08' from JJ Hardy every time.
Out of all the SS’s out there right now he is at the top of my list and has been mentioned before, it might not take Anderson or Cahill to pry Hardy away from the Brew Crew.
I’ll work on a package later on when I have more time.
I'm with you on Hardy
It would of course take pitching. Even with the slow start he sits on top of my “wants” list too.
Baja been here
context on the slow start
He got some bacterial infection or stomach virus or something toward the end of Spring training and ended up losing ten pounds. He’s already a skinny guy. There was talk of DLing him at the start of the season but they decided to ride it out.
Looking at some of the proposed trades for him here, my impression of the Brewers (and of course I could be completely wrong) – forget about catchers, 4th OFers, utility infielders, anything but premium relievers or 5th starters.
groverbaiting
Furcal sez A’s offered 4/32, then upped to 4/35 “take it or leave it”
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
I don't believe anything Team Furcal says at this point.
Why would Frank Wren and John Schuerholz be going ballistic if that were actually true?
to keep the fanbase on their side?
i don’t know the truth here at all, but that’s certainly an option. blame the big bad agent, not the GM fumbling a negociation
I have no solutions, just rejoindres
by alea iacta est on Dec 22, 2008 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
no, i agree
i was just throwing out a possibility.
I have no solutions, just rejoindres
by alea iacta est on Dec 22, 2008 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Winter League Standouts
Noticed Richard Hidalgo and Armando Rios still raking in the Venezuelan Winter League. Chep upgrades. Oh and Durazo is still down there trying to find his way back to the Bigs. Only kidding but it’s fun to look at some old familiar names that continue to play ball elsewhere. Hidalgo is actually only 33 and is having a super nice season there.
Baja been here
tatis
signed a one year deal wit the mets
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Hidalgo stats
He has played in 47 games. His stat line is .339 avg / .412 OB / .546 SLG
Baja been here
Random OT Idea
what if we traded for Adrian Gonzalez?
Here’s the thinking (courtesy of Beyond the Box Score):
Pros-
1. The Padres are rebuilding, and while Peavy may be their biggest trading chip, A Gon is a pretty big one as well. Why wouldn’t they want to fully delve into rebuilding mode, rather than go half way?
2. A Gon is GOOD, and is probably a 4 WAR player currently (lets not forget that he plays half of his games in PetCo).
3. A Gon is Healthy, he played 162 games last year.
4. A Gon is cost controlled for 3 more years at 13.25mil for that entire span, and that’s his age 27-29 years.
Cons-
1. The Pads will probably want something similar to what Texas got for Texeira. So, he is going to cost some talent.
"I'm on hold for now"- Bobby Crosby
It's a wonderful idea
And if by “some talent” you mean a boatload then it might even be practical.
The monster at the end of this blog.
well it sounds like we're going to be getting a Giambi, rather than a Gonzalez
so have no fear
"I'm on hold for now"- Bobby Crosby
by DyeLongJustice on Dec 22, 2008 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
yes, 'some talent' meaning top prospects
"I'm on hold for now"- Bobby Crosby
by DyeLongJustice on Dec 22, 2008 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
I really hope the Angels sign Fuentes
I’d rather see them spend the money on a closer than another big bat..
by GusanoQuemador on Dec 23, 2008 10:00 AM PST reply actions
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