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Vazquez to Braves for Lillibridge (among others)

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3740201

I think this is a good trade for the Sox...

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"Right-handed pitcher Javier Vazquez has been told he's headed from the Chicago White Soxto the Atlanta Braves in a deal which is likely to be finalized on Wednesday.

Vazquez is flying to Atlanta on Wednesday morning for a physical.

A baseball source told ESPN's Peter Gammons that the deal will include four other players, including reliever Boone Logan, who would also go from the White Sox to the Braves.

Among the players expected to go from Atlanta to the Chicago organization are Jo-Jo Reyes, Brett Lillibridge and another top prospect."

 

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But you beat me to it. I think if anything it’s good news for us. Conceivably the Braves could still go after Peavy, but you’d have to think that getting Vazquez shows that they don’t think Peavy will happen. Which also means that Escobar isn’t going to SD and Furcal isn’t going to Atlanta. This could possibly mean the Braves are out of the running for Furcal, but this is entirely conjecture on my part.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Dec 2, 2008 4:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That was actually my first thought at as well

I guess any deal that keeps Escobar in Atlanta improves the A’s chances of signing Furcal.

by DiegoAsFan on Dec 2, 2008 4:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Unless you were hoping we'd 3-way ourselves into winding up with Escobar

Then it’s sad

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Dec 2, 2008 4:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but what was the probability the a's would end up with escobar?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Dec 2, 2008 4:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And why would the Padres not want Escobar?

They are in a simular position to us; crappy SS they are trying to get rid of and replace.

facepalm.jpg

by Zonis on Dec 2, 2008 4:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd heard they wanted multiple pitching prospects

And Escobar is worth Cahill or Anderson and a couple more.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Dec 2, 2008 7:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't want to give up the farm for Escobar

And didn’t see much of a chance of us being able to acquire him in a 3-way anyway.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Dec 2, 2008 7:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True, it was pure AN conjecture

But it doesn’t mean I couldn’t hope.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Dec 2, 2008 7:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As far as the actual trade

It’s hard to really say untill the final Braves prospect is identified. Atlanta has a ton of good propects, whoever this “top prospect” is will sway this deal in my mind.

by DiegoAsFan on Dec 2, 2008 4:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

And here I thought Blez was just happy to see me.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Dec 2, 2008 4:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rosenthal says it's NOT Jo-Jo Reyes

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Dec 2, 2008 4:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jo-Jo Reyes, Your GM Is Calling

I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 2, 2008 5:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think this is a fine deal for both sides. Atlanta does have good prospects. Not a bad team to try and work a deal with and I have always been a huge fan of Javy even though he sure has had his ups and downs. I really like the guy and I am happy to see him away from the White Sox. As for the other player, Boone. I am very high on Boone and what the future holds for him so I certainly will be keeping an eye on him and his progression as a pitcher

by ilovegregsmith on Dec 2, 2008 5:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Furcal better sign soon

  With the braves dropping out and the giants talking with renteria its looking like his $ demands are going down.

by Arcman on Dec 2, 2008 6:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm wondering if Furcal isn't getting the four-year offers he wanted

All indications right now are of a FA market that mirrors our nation’s economy: in recession/nervous. Dunn and Burrell aren’t offered arbitration, and the Dodgers have dropped out of Furcal negotiations citing concern over the surgery/4-yr commitment – as, it would seem, have the Braves. Furcal, at last check, had not actually received an offer from the A’s and had not moved to speed up the process of signing with anyone.

Maybe neither the A’s nor the Giants – nor anyone else – is offering a four-year deal and Furcal is stalling to see if someone will budge before he agrees to sign with Oakland for three?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 2, 2008 6:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i hope so

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Dec 2, 2008 6:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

With emphasis on the “he agrees to sign with Oakland for three” part.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Dec 2, 2008 7:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Dec 2, 2008 7:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This.

Jon Garland, pleasepleaseplease accept arbitration. Your mad iNNiNgZ eAtEr sKiLLz will be greater exemplified in next year's free agent class. kthxbai.

by Blicks on Dec 2, 2008 8:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why do you frequently post "This."

Do you want to be able to refer back to that particular portion of the thread at a later date?

Eveland rocks! Eveland rocks! Somewhere Drew Carey just smiled.

by miggyk2 on Dec 2, 2008 8:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not this

It’s just a different way of saying “+1”, or more frequently, “this is the answer to the question that was previously posed.”

au contra ire

by JediLeroy on Dec 2, 2008 10:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

this

"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball

by flipgatey3 on Dec 2, 2008 10:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

thing?

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Dec 3, 2008 1:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It.

Jon Garland, pleasepleaseplease accept arbitration. Your mad iNNiNgZ eAtEr sKiLLz will be greater exemplified in next year's free agent class. kthxbai.

by Blicks on Dec 3, 2008 9:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah that’s what i meant

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Dec 2, 2008 8:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's somewhat "wishful inference" on my part,

but it’s a theory. Probably not actually true, but pretty consistent with everything that has happened so far.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 2, 2008 9:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Any word about Furcal

and talks with the A’s cooling down?

I wonder if the recession and worry has built up in Beane’s mind to pass and move to Cabrea???

I wonder if the A’s will make a minor league offer to Thomas again or are his done in Oakland??

"What do we do with Crosby? Well, in my neighborhood, trash goes out on Mondays." ~ Nico

by MMunoz33 on Dec 3, 2008 7:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The problem is that Cabrera pretty much sucks

I don’t think he’d hit better than Crosby playing half his games in Oakland, and his defense has always been significantly overrated.

by thejd44 on Dec 3, 2008 10:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It looks like the Giants and Renteria are close to a deal,

which would, with the Braves apparently keeping Escobar and the Dodger bowing out of the running, still suggest Furcal to Oakland.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 3, 2008 6:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm starting to get excited.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Dec 3, 2008 6:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If this persists for four hours, call your doctor

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 3, 2008 7:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

surprise about this deal

white sox got no mlb ready pitchers…all they have in the upper minors close to decent is marquez, egbert, broadway

i wonder if A’s could pry away lillibridge w/ some of the pitching depth

by Asfan4ever723 on Dec 3, 2008 9:01 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The White Sox seem to think Marquez is a top 5 prospect in all of baseball the way they talk

And I’m really not exaggerating. When they got him, they gushed as if he were some sort of combination of Roger Clemens, Sandy Koufax, and Superman.

by thejd44 on Dec 3, 2008 10:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love this deal for the Braves

Kevin Towers is probably crying somewhere though.

Jon Garland, pleasepleaseplease accept arbitration. Your mad iNNiNgZ eAtEr sKiLLz will be greater exemplified in next year's free agent class. kthxbai.

by Blicks on Dec 3, 2008 9:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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