DLD 12/15/08 - Unanimity requested for Rickey
by doctorK on Dec 14, 2008 10:11 PM PST
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Here's a new DLD to get our week started off.
As noted by elcroata, Joe Posnanski, I think I love you and want to say that you are far superior a baseball writer to every other stiff at SI.com (especially Heyman).
It's one of those bizarre quirks of the baseball writers' voting, bizarre because at some point there were some among the baseball writers who started to take PRIDE in the quirk, started feeling gratified by the fact that Willie Mays and Babe Ruth and Mike Schmidt and Tom Seaver and Stan Musial and Hank Aaron did not get every vote. I guess they thought (think) of themselves as guardians of the gate.
Sigh - so true, unfortunately. You just know some clown like Mariotti will leave him off just to grab attention for themselves.
Randy Moss fouled the sacred grass of the Coliseum on Sunday. Normally, I'd be pissed off, but since I've pretty much quit caring about the Rai-DURRRRRS, it's not such a big deal anymore.
Auburn University decided its best choice for a new coach is a guy with 5 wins in two seasons. When asked, Auburn's new coach responded as such:
This was a very tough decision for me. But at the end of the day, I’ve got to do what’s best for my family and myself.
In other words, "Iowa State sucks and I'll never be a sucess there. That and Auburn just offered me a shiteload of money to jump ship, so bye-bye Ames."
Well, good luck, because it looks like you're going to need it. Truth be told, Iowa State's football program does suck, and has for years, but surely you knew that going in. Not only that, but you were hired to turn it around, not to give up after two years!
Dump away!
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I bet Huston's glad Embree signed with the Rockies.
He gets another year with Grandpa (assuming he’s not traded again)…
by whiteshoes40 on Dec 14, 2008 10:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It's always nerve wracking to start a new job.
So having a friend on the team will help him feel more comfortable.
by IM4Oakgal on Dec 14, 2008 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Huston is going to look so weird in purple
"I'm on hold for now"- Bobby Crosby
by DyeLongJustice on Dec 14, 2008 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He was hard on an old ladie's nerves...
but I am going to miss that kid.
by IM4Oakgal on Dec 14, 2008 11:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh? Harden?
Oh…never mind.
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
by oblique on Dec 14, 2008 11:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully Ricky will put an end to this "tradition"
It’s not a big deal but it has always been kind of a pet peeve of mine. The idea that “no one has ever got a unanimous vote” is some kind of tradition to be proud of is completely idiotic. Every once in a while a true great player comes up for election and invariably someone doesn’t vote for him and explains “well Willie Mays didn’t get 100% of the vote so why should X”. Like the fact that some racist idiots didn’t think Mays deserved to be a hall of famer is a badge of honor worthy of protection.
I know Ricky probably won’t get 100% of the vote but I can hope that at least whichever writer doesn’t put Ricky on the Ballot gets publicly humiliated.
- end rant *
by DiegoAsFan on Dec 14, 2008 11:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Public flogging
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Dec 14, 2008 11:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody won't vote Rickey
because he stepped on their shoe once, or because hes a weird guy, etc. We’ll be having this same convo when Maddux comes on the ballot, and he also won’t get 100%.
rebuildingseason.blogspot.com
by Rebuilding Season on Dec 15, 2008 3:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's just "star player" being "star player"
This phrase is fast becoming the newest overused trite sports phrase. It’s there in the Raider’s link:
’’That’s just Randy being Randy,’’ said LaMont Jordan
I’ll admit it was fun term to throw around during Boston’s historic ‘04 run, but this year it seems like every prima donna is using the line to explain away their inappropriate behavior. It’s the new way to say “I’m untouchable because I’m a mega-star and I do what I want”. I was surprised the media didn’t call it “Plaxico being Plaxico” when he shot himself in the leg (the highest levels of stupidity apparently still trump stardom).
It makes me thankful that the A’s have remained cancer-free in the clubhouse over the years. Even Milton Bradley never raised much hell during his A’s stint. Here’s hoping Oakland never has a “player” being “player”.
by GoA's on Dec 15, 2008 4:09 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
A's are frontrunners...again
From every indication, the A’s are the front-runner to sign free- agent shortstop Rafael Furcal.
The A’s have improved their initial four-year offer to Furcal, according to major-league sources.
Furcal, 31, does not appear to have another four-year proposal, though negotiations are fluid and subject to change.
Furcal’s agent, Paul Kinzer, said last week that the A’s, Dodgers, Blue Jays and Royals were the four finalists for his client. Other teams, however, could be in the mix.
The Dodgers will not offer Furcal four years and maybe not even three, sources say. The Jays are unable to compete economically. The Royals might need to trade outfielder Jose Guillen to clear payroll.
The A’s initial four-year offer to Furcal was believed to be for between $35 million and $40 million. The Dodgers and other clubs have been reluctant to offer him four years due to his injury history.
* http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8944262/Sources20:-A27s-up-offer,-look-like-leaders-for-Furcal
by Asfan4ever723 on Dec 15, 2008 6:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
"negotians are fluid and subject to change"
Nacho runs?
I blame Englishmajor.
by McFood on Dec 15, 2008 7:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"fluid and subject to change"
That sounds very familiar to me right now.
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 11:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just looking forward to the day when
Furcal Watch ’08 is finally over. Make up your mind, man.
by whiteshoes40 on Dec 15, 2008 10:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BP takes on Rickey's HOF credentials
As if his greatness needed any further proof. Via the revised replacement level, Henderson’s career WARP total and JAWS score both rank ninth all-time, and his peak score ranks 12th. With the caveat that the new defensive system could bump that ranking up or down, the important point is that Rickey Henderson is in the class photo of the greatest ballplayers of all time:
Player Career Peak JAWS
Babe Ruth 195.8 93.4 144.6
Barry Bonds 192.6 88.7 140.7
Willie Mays 177.5 80.4 129.0
Walter Johnson 169.2 87.7 128.5
Roger Clemens 162.0 78.3 120.2
Honus Wagner 158.8 76.2 117.5
Ty Cobb 158.5 76.4 117.5
Hank Aaron 159.6 72.4 116.0
Rickey Henderson 155.7 74.9 115.3
Wow, that’s elite company.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8375
"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."
-Charles Manson
by kaweahkaweah on Dec 15, 2008 10:12 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
"Unaminity"?
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 10:41 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Unamerkelty?
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 10:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unamelky?
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
by oblique on Dec 15, 2008 10:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Needs more photoshop
Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.
by salb918 on Dec 15, 2008 10:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, if only I had the time and/or skill...
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
by oblique on Dec 15, 2008 11:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unabombery?
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unafreemasonary?
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
by 5Aces on Dec 16, 2008 9:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Me have PhD - me cant spel tu gud
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Dec 15, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
awesome
TSG finally gets its hands on VH’s legendary no-brown-M&M’s concert rider.
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 10:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
TMI
{Waits for xbx and sal to respond indignantly before realizing that’s not what I meant.}
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 11:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Barry
"RIP: UserID: 553"
by Masaryk on Dec 15, 2008 11:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Phillies GM
"RIP: UserID: 553"
by Masaryk on Dec 15, 2008 11:36 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Chan Ho switched to a submarine delivery??
"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL
by oblique on Dec 15, 2008 11:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Chan Hoagie
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 12:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he's got such easy cheese steak
Candy Cane
by Ice Cream on Dec 15, 2008 8:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
cheating!?!
I got my grubby paws on an advanced copy of Derek Zumsteg’s The Cheater’s Guide to Baseball and was somewhat surprised to come across this paragraph during his discussion of illegal pickoff moves:
Some teams, like the Oakland A’s, do this. Their pitchers will develop one (or more) totally illegal pickoff moves and stash them away. When they really need an out, and the umpires watching them are of the breed Weaver talked to, they’ll use it and get a confused baserunner out. Then the opposing manager comes out but to no avail – the A’s are already walking off the field, disaster averted by well-timed, well-considered rule-breaking. If they did it more frequently, there might be protests that would result in the league’s issuing a memo to umpires to crack down on it, but they’re crafty enough to know that if they use it rarely, they’ll continue to get away with it.
anybody ever hear anything like this?
"The Athletics at Fremont" is unusually bad
by ArakSOT on Dec 15, 2008 11:48 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
might explain (beside his "lucky" results w/poor peripherals) why Smith was shipped out
He was spoiling the trick by over-using it?
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 12:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude.
I just sent out a search party for you. Seriously. Texts and emails were sent, like, ten minutes ago because I hadn’t heard from you. I contacted sal about checking on you, dude.
I haven’t been able to email you. Just wanted to make sure you are okay.
But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.
by Jennifer on Dec 15, 2008 12:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet.
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT'S MINE SAY?!?
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
by 5Aces on Dec 15, 2008 12:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, Where's My Free-Agent Shortstop?
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
I’m good, thanks!
besides which I voted for 41-50 on Athletics Nation – 12/09/08 2:43 PM EST
that wasn’t THAT long ago!
"The Athletics at Fremont" is unusually bad
by ArakSOT on Dec 15, 2008 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hadn't been on AN. I should have checked here first, I know.
If sal shows up on a dogsled with little cutie sal jr. all bundled in about ten minutes, tell him I said thanks!
Seriously, I was scared. Sal gave me your phone number to call and check on you. The Mass State Police was going to be next place I called.
But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.
by Jennifer on Dec 15, 2008 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
::cancels dogsled rental::
::can’t get deposit back::
Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.
by salb918 on Dec 15, 2008 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
now, see, if you had a membership in City DogsledShare or ZipDogsled, you wouldn't have that problem
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
::scribbles note to Santa::
::Santa declines visiting Boston, citing poor sleigh-riding conditions::
Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.
by salb918 on Dec 15, 2008 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But who's going to deliver the coal to all those Red Sox fans?
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not busy.
But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.
by Jennifer on Dec 15, 2008 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, not jolly enough.
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bitch, please!
But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.
by Jennifer on Dec 15, 2008 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Coal?!?
Given that energy costs will rise long-term, I’d rather get coal this year…
True story: instead of stockings, people here use bloody socks. It’s really gross.
Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.
by salb918 on Dec 15, 2008 1:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, you and your counter-intuitive energy proposals ...
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why don't we just set Red Sox fans on fire?
Thanks for tomorrow 'cause I've had enough
by andeux on Dec 15, 2008 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they're quick little buggers
"The Athletics at Fremont" is unusually bad
by ArakSOT on Dec 15, 2008 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not counter-intuitive enough
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, but . . .
That little tidbit makes my A’s-worship grow tenfold.
Seemed like Mark Redman used to do the same thing, right?
by EddieVegas_NRAF on Dec 17, 2008 9:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Off Topic
But does anybody have a link or know where I can find video of Hatteberg’s walk off to seal the 20th game of The Streak?
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Dec 15, 2008 1:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Did you check the A's website?
But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.
by Jennifer on Dec 15, 2008 1:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
They only have archive videos dating back to 2005. Maybe I looked in the wrong area because I’ve never searched for videos there before.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Dec 15, 2008 1:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know a portion of it is in the A's Anthem Commercial.
But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.
by Jennifer on Dec 15, 2008 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah
I’ll check that out to get a taste but I was hoping to find something with audio of the crowd’s reaction and even the commentators. Oh well
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Dec 15, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This
has Bill King’s call and the crowd going crazy.
by green star oakland on Dec 15, 2008 3:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hadz it ... it broke ...
"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback
by devo on Dec 15, 2008 9:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was beautiful.
Too bad it doesn’t have Bill King’s call set to the video, though.
by whiteshoes40 on Dec 15, 2008 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you very much
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Dec 15, 2008 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What an awesome moment
That was one of the loudest roars in recent memory. I would think maybe Scutaro’d bases clearing double in 06 caused a larger yell.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Dec 16, 2008 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Urban mailbag = fail.
When is the next FanFest?
— Daniel C., Modesto, Calif.
Probably in late January or early February. The A’s public-relations staff hasn’t announced the date yet, but I’m told it’ll be announced soon, and you’ll read about it on this site first, so stay tuned.
Oh, c’mon. It’s January 24, 2009, as mentioned on AN here, here, here, and here. Someone needs to get Daniel C. an AN account.
by whiteshoes40 on Dec 15, 2008 3:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
"failbag"
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
gylding the lyly
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
someone needs to get Urbs an AN acc...oh wait.
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King
by batgirl on Dec 15, 2008 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can you buy tickets at the gate?
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Dec 15, 2008 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hate to do this-
but FanFest has been cancelled. Instead we get to go to an open work out on April 5th. Here’s the link
Loves those little teams that can.
by SwisherGirl33 on Dec 15, 2008 5:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Link
http://mlb.mlb.com/oak/fan_forum/fan_appreciation.jsp
Sorry my link button isn’t working.
Loves those little teams that can.
by SwisherGirl33 on Dec 15, 2008 5:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Boo!
Okay, the new event sounds all well and good (especially because it’s FREE and basically exactly the same as FanFest)—-but it’s not until April! FanFest is supposed to be help us the long, cold winter before Spring Training and the regular season. By the time April 5 rolls around, we’ll already have gone to exhibition games and be ready for Opening Day. Ergggg.
by whiteshoes40 on Dec 15, 2008 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+ it's on a Sunday!
BOO too! Apparently (AN needs spell check for losers like me) they don’t want church going fans to attend the event.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Dec 16, 2008 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would they cancel Fan Fest?
The A’s traditionally have one of the highest turnouts for Fan Fest of the teams that do them. And a LOT more than the Giants (hell, I’ve ran into Giants fans-in gear-at Fan Fest who’ve said they go to the A’s Fanfest cuz the Giants one sucks).
facepalm.jpg
by Zonis on Dec 15, 2008 5:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
this seems inexplicable to me
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 15, 2008 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is going to sound snarky, and maybe I sort of mean it to,
but could it be that they wanted to do something later because they think they are going to make several more moves, and they don’t want fans to feel like they went to fanfest and then had everyone who was there shipped off to Milwaukee?
"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty
by 5Aces on Dec 16, 2008 9:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I’m mystified by that decision. If memory serves me right, the proceeds for FanFest were donated to one of the A’s charities, so it wasn’t a moneymaker per se — but it was the kickoff for single ticket sales, as well as creating buzz for the team. Perhaps the A’s have concluded that ticket sales are going to be so low this year that getting them started a few months early is not going to make a difference?
by Englishmajor on Dec 15, 2008 8:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
shouldn't it be the other way around though
the A’s need to try extra hard to get those Season Ticket holders?
Bah, this is why the A’s marketing sucks.
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by Zonis on Dec 15, 2008 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's definitely odd
The A’s pulling out of FanFest is like Apple pulling out of MacWorld. Or snow in South Berkeley.
[looks for copy of Nostradamus]
by Englishmajor on Dec 16, 2008 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The final sign of the End of Days will be Crosby laying off sliders low and away
I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@
by monkeyball on Dec 16, 2008 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, everyone else is laying off these days...
Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.
by salb918 on Dec 16, 2008 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sad QOTM
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Dec 16, 2008 7:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow... A's and Apple are taking the stupid pill together?
That, or Apple’s got its inflated ego even higher.
Last time it reached that level was in the 80’s… to which was followed by Apple losing a crap ton of the market share and becoming a non-entity.
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by Zonis on Dec 16, 2008 9:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just want to point out
that the thing that will piss grover off the most with all these troll posts… will be that he capitalized the g.
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by Zonis on Dec 16, 2008 12:00 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Apparently,
things are…weird in Germany these days…
I see a deranged rabbit, on fire, cowering away from a vagina. I await the results of the Rorschaschererer. -Nico
by Leopold Bloom on Dec 16, 2008 10:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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