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It’s no secret that people are spending less money (or have less money to spend) this year. Almost everyone has been affected in one way or the other by the recent economic crisis, and I would have to think that baseball is not immune to the financial crunch.

As we watch the winter meetings, and hear about more and more players signing contracts that resemble Monopoly money for most of us, do we find ourselves resenting the amount of money in baseball?

I’m hoping this discussion goes the way of the economical, not political, but I am curious how the recent spending crunch will affect you, as an individual baseball fan, this upcoming season. I don’t think things will change for me personally; I have already picked my week at Spring Training, and I plan on going to more A’s games than last year, largely due to the convenience of the A’s playing the NL West this season. 

Has the economy affected how you will watch baseball? Are you less inclined to buy the extras; stadium tickets, Extra Innings packages, baseball vacations, etc?

On a broader note, do you think the free agents will suffer due to the economy? Obviously not the big money names like Teixeira and CC, but will it affect those on the fringe?  Have we already seen it with K Rod not getting the huge payoff some predicted and Furcal struggling to find a team to pay out?

Another interesting thing to note is how the stadiums themselves might be affected by the reduced spending, especially in the corporate realm. New York has been hit as the center of the financial markets in the US; every day brings more stories of layoffs and high-salaried employees losing bonuses, and in a lot of cases; even jobs.

You have to wonder how this will affect the new Yankee Stadium; things that seem to go during corporate cutbacks are company party expenses, bonuses, and luxury items, such as corporate seats and boxes at the game. And with the price of individual tickets rising, can people afford to attend games? It is likely that the first year of the stadium has been handled, but what of 2010? 2011? Will Yankee Stadium be able to recoup the money spent? Will this affect other stadiums or future plans as well?

How do you see this affecting baseball?

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I was a cheap bastard before the recession ...

… I remain one during it, and I’ll still be one when we recover.

I embrace free radio broadcasts of games, FREE KRAUT on smuggled-in dogs at whatever facility the A’s play their home games, gray-market below-face or mooched free tickets, and BART bridge/kludged merch over officially licensed swag. I grudgingly pay my cable bill and subscribe to MLB audio because (a) we live in the shadow of a big hill in an old building, (b) Wolffisher won’t sign to a deal with a broadcaster with a stronger signal than a homemade crystal set, and © MLB audio is actually a pretty sweet bargain.

So long as other suckers keep paying premium prices for seats ‘n’ swag, I have zero objections to players getting their fair share of the owners’ profits.

My particular brand of fandom is (relatively) recession-proof.

I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 10, 2008 12:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Mostly agreed.

I’ll definitely take BART more than driving and paying however much parking will cost this year.

On the other hand, I may go to less games this year and get BETTER tickets for the ones I do go to, since they’ll likely be good deals.

by mikev on Dec 10, 2008 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's interesting....

I prefer that too; less games, better seats.

"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers

by baseballgirl on Dec 10, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Though, not really a problem at the Coliseum most nights...

Weeknights, at least, you can buy the cheapest ticket in the house and find yourself with a great view come the 3rd or 4th inning.

If I don't comment on your comment how will you know you are completely wrong? -Rocktopus

by pam5981 on Dec 10, 2008 1:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

add that to my Cheapskate's Credo

Free seat upgrades

I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 10, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sadly, that's not my park. :-(

I WISH…be there every night!

"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers

by baseballgirl on Dec 10, 2008 1:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Right...does not apply to NRAFs!

If I don't comment on your comment how will you know you are completely wrong? -Rocktopus

by pam5981 on Dec 10, 2008 1:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe you don't have problems

but in recent years the ushers have seemed to really been cracking down on seat upgrades. It’s probably just because I’m a college kid but every time i sniff even the plaza infield there’s someone coming up to look at my ticket, for no real reason as there are often a lot of seats and I don’t really have the disposable income to actually better seats.

by MaineAthletic on Dec 10, 2008 3:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've noticed the A's are TERRIBLE about this...

…why do they even care to a certain extent? I’d be glad to have people in the close-up sections so it looks full there, at least.

Other parts are way more relaxed about it if the stadium is empty.

"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers

by baseballgirl on Dec 10, 2008 3:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i think the logic is

that if people know they can move to the good seats they aren’t likely to pay for them. which does make some sense. if you’re committed enough to the team to plunk down the money for good seats then you probably don’t want to see a bunch of cheapskates sweep in after paying for the bleachers. I’d just like to turn my cheap tickets into something like 215 or so, is that asking too much.

by MaineAthletic on Dec 10, 2008 3:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is the logic for sure.

I seat upgrade now and again…but I am in that age group where the ushers don’t seem to care much…I remember last year at am Angel’s matchup…I moved several rows down to MVP seats and the usher(an older Asian man ) came over and laughed and I gave him a hug. He told me I was sneaky and I said… I know thanks for letting me do it.

by IM4Oakgal on Dec 10, 2008 6:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I usually wait until the 7th or 8th inning

enough people are leaving, and you can sit about 20 rows up from the actual field. If it is an intense game, it really adds to the experience. I think it was the last game at the Coli, where the A’s came back to win, that I really noticed the intensity of the experience when down close.

Officially awaiting the 2009 season.

by One won lost won on Dec 10, 2008 9:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is the path I have taken recently too...

I will take great seats for a game over bad seats for a couple games any day. With every game on TV now, I find that bad seats just are not worth it to me anymore…unless it is a huge game that I really had to be at.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Dec 10, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and nice timing on this post, bbg

Word on the street is that the AN retroactive subscription notices with amounts past due will be in the mail before xmas.

I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 10, 2008 12:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Fine with me,

as long as Blez doesn’t mind me paying in Zimbabwe dollars!

"I have more questions after these."-WaddellCanseco

by Gaijin_Suketto on Dec 10, 2008 3:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

An overlooked factor might be time, in addition to the money

I, and a lot of people I know, are fortunate enough to still be employed, but since it seems companies are not hiring even when there is a need, instead relying on current employees to do more, our jobs have gotten harder and resulted in longer hours. That’s going to be the biggest factor in making it to games for me; it was hard enough to get out of work in time to make an evening game last year, and this year it’ll be even harder.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Dec 10, 2008 12:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

the corollary to this

is that more time will be available to the unemployed (not me right now, thank god) to go to, say, $4 afternoon games.

BB should send scouts to watch cricket players.

by alea iacta est on Dec 10, 2008 1:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Frankly..

This recession is great for me! I already have a safe job, and I’m 21. I’m investing at age 21 during what is essentially a half-off sale. The only thing that has burned me is the fact that I that the dollar suddenly recovered against all sorts of foreign currencies (IE: The Mexican Peso was at 9.75 against the dollar in September and rocketed to 14 against the dollar in October). I deal with financial/investment planning. This recession has encouraged a lot of people to take a nice, hard look at professionally planning their financial future… so business has actually been good for me.

So my baseball watching habits aren’t going to decrease at all this year. Hell, I’m thinking of heading out to California to catch an A’s game this year. I guess I’m one of the few fortunate ones out of this whole mess.

"To this day and dating back 25 years, before every game he plays, Henderson stands completely naked in front of a full length locker room mirror and says, "Ricky’s the best," for several minutes."

by VORP is too nerdy on Dec 10, 2008 1:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

can I have $5?

I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 10, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure.

Dance first. Saturday Night Fever style.

"To this day and dating back 25 years, before every game he plays, Henderson stands completely naked in front of a full length locker room mirror and says, "Ricky’s the best," for several minutes."

by VORP is too nerdy on Dec 10, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 10, 2008 1:48 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That's...

not what I had in mind, exactly.

"To this day and dating back 25 years, before every game he plays, Henderson stands completely naked in front of a full length locker room mirror and says, "Ricky’s the best," for several minutes."

by VORP is too nerdy on Dec 10, 2008 1:53 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I always take BART to the games anyway

I’m having a little trouble convincing my season ticket buddy to buy now, but that may come around closer to the season. I want to do it because we’ll end up going to almost as many games anyway, and it’s a better deal to have the season tickets….we’ll see…

by OaklandSi on Dec 10, 2008 1:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Even with $3-$4 gas

it was cheaper for me to drive and park for free on the frontage road (near the water) than take BART. I would trot over the bridge over i-880 so I got some physical activity in, too! This is best for day games (my favorites) of course.

Hey, with everyone unemployed, the day games might do better?

Officially awaiting the 2009 season.

by One won lost won on Dec 10, 2008 9:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was always cheap...

But lost my job in October so even cheaper now, of course. I believe I will land on my feet within a month or so. If not then going to games and the MLB extra innings package are definately out. Assuming I start working nothing will change much for 09’. I’ll get the MLBEI package, go to a bunch of games (Milwaukee) and there is a road trip planned with my friends to see the Brewers in Detroit in June as we go about every year to a opponents city to see them play. Due to my job issue I had to nix any idea of going to Spring Training, which I absolutely want to do and sooner than later.

I think its apparent its affecting the free agent market. The very top guys not but mid range and even upper end guys are affected, such as K-Rod, Furcal, etc. You don’t hear of many teams that are planning to expand their payroll for 09’…fortunately for us the A’s are one of the few who are.

Gas to Chicago- $23.87 A's/White Sox Tix- $28 Watching the A's whipping the Sox in July 05'- Priceless

by WiscoFan on Dec 10, 2008 1:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Woo-hoo

Looking forward to catching the A’s at Chavez Revine and Petco this season.

Economic crunch, not much impact. Can’t imagine not having the EI package.

by easyraider on Dec 10, 2008 1:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Me neither. There are days I'd rather eat ramin and still have A's baseball

Not last year, but some years :-)

"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers

by baseballgirl on Dec 10, 2008 1:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

JEEPERS?!?

I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 10, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh, the SF to LA to SD trajectory. I'll be there :)

If I don't comment on your comment how will you know you are completely wrong? -Rocktopus

by pam5981 on Dec 10, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You will love Petco....

Really fun place to watch a game…and walk out and you are in the Gas Lamp District which is way, way too much fun.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Dec 10, 2008 1:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too! SF to LA to SD!

Who’s with us?!!?!?!?

"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers

by baseballgirl on Dec 10, 2008 2:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

9 games in 10 days. It's gonna be awesome.

If I don't comment on your comment how will you know you are completely wrong? -Rocktopus

by pam5981 on Dec 10, 2008 2:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure you will.

If I don't comment on your comment how will you know you are completely wrong? -Rocktopus

by pam5981 on Dec 10, 2008 5:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Assuming the invitation includes we male folk

Then I would be all about this. Seriously. I’ve actually never been to San Diego, despite having lived in California for 24 of my 26 years on this planet. I was always planning on making a trek to Petco next summer and it would be a blast to have a 10-day-long AN Day.

Might the inner circle yet reassemble? Might our destinies once more collide?

In God We Trust....All Others Must Show Data

by Wes7 on Dec 10, 2008 4:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And yet another young man....

shot down in flames. I’m not laughing….really, I’m not.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Dec 10, 2008 11:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh don't be so dramatic!

Just because you’re not invited doesn’t mean Wes isn’t… :)

If I don't comment on your comment how will you know you are completely wrong? -Rocktopus

by pam5981 on Dec 11, 2008 9:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it felt a little toasty in my cubicle this morning

And for once, I can’t blame the university’s budget cuts.

Sigh We white men are so always so heavily discriminated against? Why is life so unfair?

In God We Trust....All Others Must Show Data

by Wes7 on Dec 11, 2008 11:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahem

Why are we white men so heavily discriminated against? Apparently snark killed my grammar.

In God We Trust....All Others Must Show Data

by Wes7 on Dec 11, 2008 11:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha...I like it.

Sure, let’s plan it ;-)

Petco is possibly my favorite stadium…it’s awesome. :-)

"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers

by baseballgirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Civil Service.

Nice to be able to be lazy, and yet still get paid on a regular basis without having to worry about unemployment….unless I do something incredibly stupid. Not that I would rule that possibility out entirely. I’ll never get rich, but I’ll still make my usual dozen or so games a year.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Dec 10, 2008 1:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

any jobs going?

no, really

BB should send scouts to watch cricket players.

by alea iacta est on Dec 10, 2008 2:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Always.

There are a few drawbacks though.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Dec 10, 2008 11:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fewer games, better seats

I will continue to buy my full-season single seat in 117, but I will be actively seeking someone to share it with me. Ideally I’ll find someone to split it 50/50. In the past I’ve gone to 50-60 games a year, but this year I will be happy with fewer games if I can find someone to share the financial burden. I do buy the VIP parking because the closest BART station to my home is Coliseum. It comes out to $8-9 per game, which is still almost half of what they charge for regular parking.

by skigurl on Dec 10, 2008 1:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You know I'd share it if I was there!

(Although I’d bribe someone for the one next to you, and we’d both go!)

"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers

by baseballgirl on Dec 10, 2008 2:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

on the whole, it's pretty cheap to follow the A's

my friends and i will normally splash out for proper good seats a few times a year, but them aside, it’s mostly the cheap seats. bart is cheap, bringing your own beverages is cheap, and for three hours of entertainment (or, rather, a half hour’s entertainment if things go poorly), it’s pretty good value.

i agree regarding the mlb audio package, incidentally – i got it this year for the first time, and it got me through five months of extreme work tedium at a low low price. brilliant!

something that may or may not be interesting – when my friends come to visit from overseas, i try to take them to a baseball game (sometimes it has to be the giants due to scheduling concerns, obviously), and they are always amazed by what a good deal it is – if i wanted, for example, to go see a Premiership Football game in England, i’d be looking at around $150 dollars for a pair of tickets. I always feel it’s great that we’re able to see top flight sports (well, most of the time) for $15+ a ticket.

beer prices are comparable, mind.

BB should send scouts to watch cricket players.

by alea iacta est on Dec 10, 2008 1:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

seriously

the thing about football fans rioting – it’s so passe. seriously. just doesn’t happen any more, hasn’t for about ten years.

BB should send scouts to watch cricket players.

by alea iacta est on Dec 10, 2008 4:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

passe, because the typical lout

is finding more satisfaction watching porn on the internet rather than following a team.!

Didn’t have porn so readily available, in volume, ten-fifteen years ago.

Officially awaiting the 2009 season.

by One won lost won on Dec 10, 2008 9:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 11, 2008 9:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve had a 22-game field-level plan since 2004, five seasons worth. My game partners- niece, her husband, and their son- have bowed out for ‘09. The A’s have a rep who e-mails me almost daily with enticing game plans. I’m just not sure I can do it next year, although I probably say that every year. Finding someone to go with may prove to be my bigger challenge.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Dec 10, 2008 2:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Um . . . we have the same issue.

My mom and sis can no longer afford it and my son is too busy.

This party's over

by lynnzgal on Dec 10, 2008 3:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's hard not to have anyone to go with,

I’m pretty much the only person in my family or group of friends that even gives a rat’s ass about baseball. Once, I got the drummer in my band to go to a game with me, but he partied so hard in the parking lot that he passed out in the bleachers before the A’s even got to bat in the first inning.

Sometimes my in-laws invite me to go down with them to see a game, but they always go to Sunday games with big promotions or Red Sox or Yankees games, and I can’t handle having people sitting on both sides of me. I know that might seem weird to some of you, but I have panic attacks when there are too many people around me, so I tend to go to Wednesday afternoon games and try to sit somewhere off by myself. I used to go sit in completely empty sections in the upper deck before they tarped it off.

I remember once sitting by myself, an old Indian man came and sat down next to me and started talking about birds and UFOs. In a flush of energy, I had a feeling that Crosby was going to hit a dinger on the next pitch, so I said, look up, my friend, and watch this next ball fly. Of course, Crosby went yard on the next pitch, a walkoff dinger to tie with the Angels with three left to play.

Anyway, long story short, I am not a viable customer for MLB’s products and/or services. I only buy used and thrifted gear, and attend the cheapest possible games, buying the cheapest possible seats, and bring my own food, and even that, only once or twice a year.

"I have more questions after these."-WaddellCanseco

by Gaijin_Suketto on Dec 10, 2008 3:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm seriously considering

taking off work for the Wednesday afternoon games. I don’t see how an occasional half day off now and again will hurt my productivity.

This party's over

by lynnzgal on Dec 10, 2008 3:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Especially considering the fact you're probably on AN the whole afternoon anyway.

If I don't comment on your comment how will you know you are completely wrong? -Rocktopus

by pam5981 on Dec 10, 2008 3:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Without shame I might add,

it helps that my boss is a fan too.

This party's over

by lynnzgal on Dec 10, 2008 4:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No, your friend was a baseball expert

He knew what would happen when the A’s came to bat, and too appropriate action

it is not possible to strategize while the ball is coming towards you

by eastcoasta'sfan on Dec 10, 2008 5:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much, it depends on whether I find another job.

Broke college student, if I can find a job, I’ll probably get the Extra Innings package (I don’t have TV, and even if I did, I live on the other side of the country) or MLB audio. Depends on WAY too many factors to tell.

I really, really don’t know right now though. Depends on so many things, like a job and my ability/propensity to quit smoking (most.expensive.habit/reliance.ever).

If I don’t get a job, I probably will get neither.

Dude. This.

by Blicks on Dec 10, 2008 4:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think the economy has changed my view on attending games in person

As a fan from outside of the Oakland area (Pismo Beach area). It takes me about three and a half hours to drive each way to reach Oakland from Pismo. That means that I usually stay the night and hit up two weekend games to make the seven hours driving worth the trip.

Throw in the gas money, the stay in a respectable hotel, good to very good seats for two games(why go through all the trouble to sit in average to poor seats?), the parking and the beer and food(once you do the drive you would like to be entertained with some good eats and quality beer). You are talking about a pretty expensive trip. That kind of money can go towards a trip to Mexico, Vegas or many of the other places I enjoy.

As a fairly affluent bachelor with quite a bit of expendable income, I make it a priority to travel and vacation 3-4 times a year. I do have to ask myself if The Oakland coliseum is the place that I want to spend those hard earned dollars right now. I’m a diehard A’s fan and I will always watch them, it just might be from a Vegas bar or on my computer in Mexico, maybe I just want the best of both worlds as cash becomes king. Everything else in this country is losing or has lost value. It would be very hard, if not impossible to get me to pay MORE for a sporting event in this economic climate.

by asfaninpismobeach on Dec 10, 2008 4:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Interesting comments

people are making some interesting “gear shifts” with this economic debacle. And, it’s just beginning IMO.

Officially awaiting the 2009 season.

by One won lost won on Dec 10, 2008 9:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

These are very interesting comments...

"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers

by baseballgirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like A's and Giants are offering more variety in ticket packages

There was an SF Gate article about Giants doing different pricing for games depending on popularity – variable ticket pricing .
Baseball, A’s baseball, is where my heart is and so that’s usually where I spend my money..spring training, weekend season tickets, roadtrips when possible. And I am very fortunate to have friends who take me out to the ballgame.
I probably will bring food to the game, rather than eat there, to save some money..but I definitely plan to be at the ballpark as much as possible.

"And sometimes, when it seems like all hope is gone, Life tosses you a special gift of a baseball game" . 7/10/08 BaseBallGirl headline

by LongTimeFan on Dec 10, 2008 4:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Another cheap fan here

I do have an excuse though: broke college student. I’m the guy who’ll get food/drink before the game (cornbread from Boston market, baby!) park in the BART lot for free, buy the cheap seats (with Pepsi can or AAA discount), sneak down (though never to great seats, just 215 or 217), and every once in a while, after the game, get a $5 hat or shirt on the BART bridge. In fact, I bought a hat the first game of the streak in 2002 and wore it everyday thereafter until the streak ended.

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Dec 10, 2008 5:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

it could be worse

  Going to a raider game is worse. They play bad and have a owner who doesn’t care 1 bit for the fans. And the prices of tickets and beer. I would nevere pay to see a raider game while davis is owner. I wouldn’t even go if the tickets were free.

by Arcman on Dec 10, 2008 6:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'll probably smoke less crack

Damn economy.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 10, 2008 6:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

try bad crack

I hear it’s cheaper. maybe you can smoke more for less.

it is not possible to strategize while the ball is coming towards you

by eastcoasta'sfan on Dec 10, 2008 6:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

and my studio is on a street where you can probably buy it.

This party's over

by lynnzgal on Dec 10, 2008 6:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the great tip!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 10, 2008 7:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We tried to buy the crack house two doors down in a preemptive move,

but someone beat us to it. The house next door to it was busted a few months back and the Feds scored a major haul of pot plants. The Oakland PD busted it again last week. Then today they closed off the street for another bust closer to 98th. I work in the hood, I do.

This party's over

by lynnzgal on Dec 10, 2008 7:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You think that's bad?

I have a neighbor who released a raccoon into the neighborhood. I kid you not.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 10, 2008 7:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i was on a conference call this afternoon

it was all very dull, until one guy shouted ‘OH MY GOD THERE’S A RACCOON ON MY CAR’.

woke me up, that’s for sure

BB should send scouts to watch cricket players.

by alea iacta est on Dec 10, 2008 8:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At least he got excited

after picking up the knocked over garbage can for the 463rd time, I don’t even mutter or say, “Shiit” anymore.
I looked out once (6AM) to see one reach up for the sheets on the clothesline (left out overnight) and clean off the paws, like a mechanic with a rag in an auto shop.

Officially awaiting the 2009 season.

by One won lost won on Dec 10, 2008 9:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha!

Well thanks for putting things into perspective.

This party's over

by lynnzgal on Dec 10, 2008 8:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The neighbor's name is Englishmajor,

in case you were wondering.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 10, 2008 8:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was sure it was Poppy

I'll send you a postcard from Space Mountain. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Dec 11, 2008 9:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They wouldn't do that in my neighborhood

My neighbor is an animal control officer. She’s got an awesome set of tools.

it is not possible to strategize while the ball is coming towards you

by eastcoasta'sfan on Dec 10, 2008 8:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Please give her my number

I’d like to date and her and invite her to live next door.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 10, 2008 9:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing comes between me and Englishmajor!

Except for maybe the occasional goat.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Dec 10, 2008 9:25 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Ewe!

I didn’t know that was Englishmajor’s style

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Dec 11, 2008 12:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No change for me (for now)

Of course it helps to be 4 1/2 hours away from the nearest MLB team. We’ll probably still go to a few Durham Bulls games like every year. Barring something bad happening with our personal finances, I still plan on getting MLB Extra Innings.

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Dec 10, 2008 7:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I bet Cactus League attendance is WAY down this spring

When the economy is in the tank, big-ticket travel is certain to suffer. I’ve been planning on a 2009 spring training trip, but I definitely need to do some budget slashing and the cost/benefit of a few days in Phoenix is looking pretty dubious. We’ll see how things look in the middle of February.

The thing that will save Phoenix’s baseball-oriented tourist economy this year will be the arrival of the Dodgers. Especially if gas stays below $2 into March.

by Soaker on Dec 10, 2008 9:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Mariners fan here, hope you don't mind my butting in but I think this is an interesting topic.

Seattle hasn’t been hit too hard as of yet (knock on wood of course) and I’m actually in a better economic situation than I was this time last year. Still, despite the fact that I feel fairly secure in my job and and pretty optimistic that I’ll be able to weather the storm, this entire episode has made me take stock of a lot my financial situation, spending habits, etc. I decided that I was spending too much money on certain things (car, convenience food, that sort of thing) and not nearly enough money on others. Baseball was one of those things.

Despite living in Seattle, I only make it out to three or four games a year. Part of that is my work schedule; I’m usually off at 7:30, so getting out to games isn’t really feasible five days a week. Part of that is Seattle’s appallingly awful transit system. The biggest factor, though, is my own laziness. I just need to make time to get out to the stadium. I’m happiest when I’m at Safeco and watching live rock and roll, and I’ve made it my goal to do both of those things much more often in the coming months.

So, in a weird way, the economic crisis will most likely cause me to spend more money on baseball this year. I realized that I was taking my ability to go to games whenever I wanted for granted, and that in terms of my own personal happiness/well being, it’s well worth the investment. And now that I’m moving to within a mile of Safeco, it should give me even more of an excuse to spend a night at the park.

As far as the issue of resentment? Not really. Are the salaries paid to baseball players indicative of the fact that our society has its values way out of whack? Yeah, probably. But I think there are far more pressing issues at hand. Baseball is still absurdly profitable. The league makes money, the teams make money and no matter how bad the economy gets, people will keep coming to games. It’s hard to go any further down this road without taking things into political territory, but I’ll say this; as long as CEOs of companies that are laying off thousands of workers and/or closing up shop altogether are taking gigantic bonuses, I find it misguided to be angry at baseball players. Their industry is still viable and profitable, so why shouldn’t they reap the benefits?

by acblue on Dec 11, 2008 2:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

You're always welcome...thanks for the comment.

We made a trip to Safeco last year; I LOVE that park.

I feel the same way about the baseball industry. You said it well.

"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers

by baseballgirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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