Giants Pull a Fast One on MLB! Players fooled! Sabean in disarray! Agents shocked!

by stranahanahan on Nov 24, 2008 1:05 PM PST Comment 75 comments

Link: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/11/giants-sign-edg.html

San Francisco Giants sign Edgar Renteria to a 2 year deal worth $18mm.

So, Furcal's other most likely suitor is out of the picture, what does this mean to the A's? Giants had to give up a 2nd round pick for Renteria... What do you think this mean for the market? Does this change the price at all?

Your thoughts, comments, questions...

UPDATE:

Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle talked to a Giants source who said the below report is not true. Schulman admits the Giants may be splitting hairs, as they might deny a deal if only formalities remained.

Rafael Furcal's agent Paul Kinzer says he's still talking to the Giants, which would seem to indicate a Renteria deal isn't close.

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Holy crap they gave him $18 million?!

The guy might not be above replacement at this point. Just, wow.

by thejd44 on Nov 24, 2008 1:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

no he's well above replacement

considering his replacement may be brian bocock!

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Nov 24, 2008 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Good news

This one was really nice to hear for two reasons:
1. It eliminates one of the A’s top competitors for Furcal (assuming you are in the Furcal camp). There are still some other possible destinations for him so he is not a lock to be in green and giold next year, but this helps.
2. Probably more important is that you can take Renteria off of the list of available shortstops, which is great. One less guy that BB could have overpaid to be mediocre at best and was probably not worth paying anything to replace Crosby (especially considering we will have to essentially eat Crosby’s salary if traded anyway). Thank you Mr. Sabean.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by mdiff8 on Nov 24, 2008 1:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

True

The flip side is that it establishes a pretty high market for SS services

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 24, 2008 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

so now the A's biggest competition for Furcal is the "surprise team"?

I don’t like our chances.

Save Rajai Davis

by oakinboston on Nov 24, 2008 1:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Wait? Did the Giants yet again throw away their top losable draft pick?!

facepalm.jpg

by Zonis on Nov 24, 2008 1:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

yes

by mikev on Nov 24, 2008 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i love the giants

it’s not as if they’d have got any use out of it, anyway

BB should send scouts to watch cricket players.

by alea iacta est on Nov 24, 2008 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

uh

you do realize the Giants have been drafting pretty well recently, right? I mean, look at the 07 draft, they got MadBum, Alderson, Kyle Nicholson, filthy arms holmes, and that aint just a one time thing, last couple drafts have been nice for the giants, yheard

by milkman41 on Nov 25, 2008 10:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i hate the giants...and i support this message

'That's something we do...thirteen hits and not score'-Terrence Long

by DyeLongJustice on Nov 26, 2008 7:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Nov 24, 2008 1:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

how does sabean still have a job?

'That's something we do...thirteen hits and not score'-Terrence Long

by DyeLongJustice on Nov 24, 2008 2:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Same way Larry Davis still has a job with the A's

I also have a pretty high shame threshold. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 24, 2008 2:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You take that back

Sabean doesn’t even wear a fanny pack to hold incriminating pictures in.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 24, 2008 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

QOTM!

"I have more questions after these."-WaddellCanseco

by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 24, 2008 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

nonsense

Larry Davis clearly has a job with the A’s because of his imposing ‘stache, which causes so any A’s to feign injury….

by stranahanahan on Nov 24, 2008 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Davis has that fanny pack to hold his cupcakes and cookies

because it’s an absolute atrocity for an athletic trainer on a team called the Athletics to look like a walrus

by petitceebee on Nov 24, 2008 11:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

LMAO!!!!

"What do we do with Crosby? Well, in my neighborhood, trash goes out on Mondays." ~ Nico

by MMunoz33 on Nov 25, 2008 5:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

oh wait it might not be true quite yet

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/indexn?blogid=22

still, fingers crossed!

BB should send scouts to watch cricket players.

by alea iacta est on Nov 24, 2008 2:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

The difference between this thread and the McC thread,

where they’re basically saying “at least it isn’t Furcal”, is amusing.

I don’t really understand what the point of this signing is for the Giants, but I suppose it’s hard not to be competitive in that division.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Nov 24, 2008 2:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

San Francisco: Home of the 2nd place Niners and (hopefully) 2nd place Giants

Both teams safely below .500

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 24, 2008 2:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

they might as well sign Barry Balco again. get it done Sabean! get it done!

and with the current state of the Niners, i’m not so sure that he wouldn’ help the niners either…

'That's something we do...thirteen hits and not score'-Terrence Long

by DyeLongJustice on Nov 24, 2008 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Bonds would be a SMART signing though.

Not in Sabean’s MO.

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 24, 2008 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Isn't he in court all year?

by OldhamA on Nov 24, 2008 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

IDK.

I’m betting he gets pardoned pretty early

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 24, 2008 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Don't you think

Obama is going to be a little busy in January?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Nov 24, 2008 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It's the outgoing president that pardons

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 24, 2008 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That and/or the positive PR Obama would get from pardoning Bonds

Most fans want to see Bonds pardoned (and playing) next year.

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 24, 2008 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

True enough.

But Blicks stated he though he would be pardoned early in the year. Besides which, Bush is clearly not a fan of the National league.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Nov 24, 2008 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

As long as rival teams of the AL team Bush roots for don't make active plays for Bonds

until after he’s pardoned.

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 24, 2008 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

nah...he's hunting

Chronicle story has him as spokesman for a rifle company.

Link

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by LongTimeFan on Nov 24, 2008 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Ned Colletti will match the deal with a bonehead signing of his own.

Hmm… I’m thinking. Who will be the Dodgers’ Dumbass Signing?

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 24, 2008 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Manny for $30M per.

by mikev on Nov 24, 2008 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That would be hilarious.

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 24, 2008 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

MaNnYwOOd

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 24, 2008 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Although I'd prefer a trade of Russell Martin for LOLmoves.

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 24, 2008 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I was about to post something like this at McC

it is quite funny.

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by iamawesomer on Nov 24, 2008 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Enrique Rojas of

ESPNDEPORTES.com reported that Furcal has traveled to the West Coast today
to possibly sign a deal with Oakland or San Fran.

by HRH on Nov 24, 2008 2:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Somewhere,

a plaintive BoCro shakes his fist at the sky in anger while shouting, “Why?” In reply, a lightening bolt strikes the ground low and away from where he’s standing.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Nov 24, 2008 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

To extrapolate...

The lightning bolt strikes the ground low and away from where he’s standing, as Bobby swings and misses it with his lightning rod.

I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.

by franks a lot on Nov 24, 2008 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Or makes contact, grounding into the 6-4-3

by LowcountryJoe on Nov 24, 2008 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

what does 'mm' mean after $18mm?

why doesn’t one ‘m’ suffice?

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Nov 24, 2008 3:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Millimillions...otherwise known as thousands

I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.

by franks a lot on Nov 24, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

mm

is plural for m. because there are two of them.

millions, not million. seems a little silly to me, i agree.

except in context.

“i walked into the house and thought "mm, cabbage”"

BB should send scouts to watch cricket players.

by alea iacta est on Nov 24, 2008 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

M is roman numeral for 1000. MM = M*M = 1,000,000

But I find that when I write $10M people know what I mean.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 24, 2008 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

MM in roman numerals

is 2000

BB should send scouts to watch cricket players.

by alea iacta est on Nov 24, 2008 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

what a bargain!

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Nov 24, 2008 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Also true

but not particularly relevant (it’s a different shorthand)

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 24, 2008 3:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i'm not sure

how that’s not true?

but i’d be happy if you pointed it out. As far as i’ve known, Roman numerals always work by adding or subtracting – multiplication would make things… different.

but as i say, i don’t claim to know everything

BB should send scouts to watch cricket players.

by alea iacta est on Nov 24, 2008 6:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

can i delete that last post

as i clearly misread stuff.

ok, i should leave work before i start giving stuff away to clients accidentally

BB should send scouts to watch cricket players.

by alea iacta est on Nov 24, 2008 6:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

(Latin student, barely)

by JLaff on Nov 24, 2008 8:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

K is for Kilo = 1,000 and M is for Mega = 1,000,000

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by Eastbayjim on Nov 24, 2008 9:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh thank God - then I DID order the right amount of cocaine

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by Nico on Nov 24, 2008 9:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

For the kids, right?

by OldhamA on Nov 25, 2008 7:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I assume it works the same as "pp." to mean "pages"

In many languages, a repetition of a word or part of a word can indicate plural— including Hawaiian and Japanese. Although I doubt that’s where the abbreviation came from, somehow.

I just use one “M” myself… of course, I just use one “p” too.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Nov 24, 2008 7:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

2/18 sounds like a perfectly reasonable deal for Renteria.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Nov 24, 2008 3:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yep ...

the key part being the 2 …

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Nov 24, 2008 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

the latest over at MLB trade rumors

is that for the Giants Renteria is seen as the fallback if they can’t get Furcal.

…also, the mystery third team may be the Braves, who may also be driving up the bidding.

by OaklandSi on Nov 24, 2008 4:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Time to snatch up Escobar, when the Braves trade him to the Padres for Peavy.

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 24, 2008 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

haha,

Blicks, are you the one who made that comment over at MLBTR?

by stranahanahan on Nov 24, 2008 6:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Which one?

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 24, 2008 7:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't post on MLBtr. Too much idiotism over there.

I saw the comment that you may be referencing though, now that I looked.

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 24, 2008 7:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Mystery team is probably the Royals

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Nov 24, 2008 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

or the Nationals

by OaklandSi on Nov 24, 2008 5:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

or the mysterious Dodgers...who aren't so much a mystery

'That's something we do...thirteen hits and not score'-Terrence Long

by DyeLongJustice on Nov 24, 2008 7:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

A's "finalists" for furcal

decides last this week or next week

by Asfan4ever723 on Nov 25, 2008 6:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

mystery team is the braves. wtf.

'That's something we do...thirteen hits and not score'-Terrence Long

by DyeLongJustice on Nov 25, 2008 6:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Makes sense, actually

If you consider they will include Escobar as part of a deal for Peavy.

by mikev on Nov 25, 2008 7:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Isn't Escobar like really, really good and under team control for a while?

by OldhamA on Nov 25, 2008 7:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

Their apparent willingness to get rid of him makes zero sense to me. I’m not aware of any comparable player who’s even “touchable,” much less “on the block.”

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Nov 25, 2008 7:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs