Crosby to the Orioles?

by supermarc589 on Nov 21, 2008 3:44 PM PST Comment 44 comments

Here is an article from mlbtraderumors.com saying that baltimore has expressed interest in Bobby Crosby.

What are your guys' thoughts?

What kind of package do you think we can expect? Crosby has underpreformed but is a former ROY and entering his physical prime in age, and maybe a change of scenery can put at him at where he was projected at the beginning of his career.

What Furcal implications does this suggest?

Thoughts?

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a ham sandwich

The orioles are more concerned with his durability than his .239 average?

I’d say hold out for the turkey sandwich. And it’d be great if they paid his salary.

by CliveWarren on Nov 21, 2008 4:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

No, I think we could get some of that Boog Powell barbecue.

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by Nick on Nov 21, 2008 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Sell short on the Turkey now

nobody want to buy turkey sandwiches with T-day around the corner – people won’t want more Turkey than they have to eat already.

by MobiusKlein on Nov 21, 2008 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

"Turkey's value will never be as high as it is this week!"

{sticks foot out into aisle} Oops – tryptophan.

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by Nico on Nov 22, 2008 8:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Turkey's value: approx. $12.6 trillion

if you take GDP*20 as the rough value of their assets.

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by PaulThomas on Nov 22, 2008 9:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

When I eat a turkey,

I usually stay away from the ass-ets.

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by Nico on Nov 22, 2008 9:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

So you don't eat turkey hot dogs?

by thejd44 on Nov 22, 2008 10:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Here is an article from Athletics Nation saying precisely the same thing, and linking to the very same article.

Thoughts?

I also have a pretty high shame threshold. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 21, 2008 4:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Here are my thoughts.

Ray: "How fun is it to be up here playing in the Big Leagues?"
Gio: "It's *SUPER* fun!!!"

by Poppy on Nov 21, 2008 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

they should take anything they offer

And just try to dump the salary.

by jdr on Nov 21, 2008 5:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Bye

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Nov 21, 2008 6:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Kotsay

I’d like to see a Kotsay like deal with the A’s pay Crosby’s salary to get a decent prospect in return.

The A’s have money to burn right now, so a new prospect is more valuable then the 5 million.

Sometimes life will strike you out on a curve ball and the only choice you have is to flip off the umpire and walk to first base anyway.

by Threepwood XX on Nov 21, 2008 7:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

do you really think that's possible?

kotsay was a very good player, and many thought he’d be good again once he fully recovered from the surgery. crosby has sucked donkey balls for basically his entire career. even if we paid his salary, why would any team offer us anything decent in return? unless people are really convinced a change of scenery will really fix things for him. he’s certainly still got all the tools to be a star, but the mentality that suggests he’ll be a janitor. or a governor from alaska.

by guy incognito on Nov 22, 2008 7:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

"He's certainly got all the tools to be a star" + 29 years old =

Someone will want him. But he’ll have to wait 55 years and then accept bribes before he can have a career in Alaska politics.

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by Nico on Nov 22, 2008 9:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

See, the flaw in that argument is that I don't think Crosby has the "tools" either

by thejd44 on Nov 22, 2008 10:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

But you don't have to

One GM does.

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by Nico on Nov 22, 2008 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He's athletically gifted and obviously has good hand eye co-ordination

(or else he wouldn’t have got this far). He’s just as dumb as a box of crayons, or stubborn beyond belief – I don’t know which, I’ve never met the guy.

by OldhamA on Nov 22, 2008 10:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Ok, that is a total BS straw man argument

What are you comparing Crosby’s hand-eye coordination to? Me? You? That must be it, because I don’t think any scout or GM would think Crosby has good hand-eye coordination in relation to the rest of the talent pool.

I don’t think he’s particularly athletic, either. He doesn’t have great range, he’s not that fast (though he appears to be a pretty decent baserunner, which speaks against your “dumb as a box of crayons” argument).

I don’t think Crosby is a dumb player. I think he just isn’t very gifted. And, yes, OF COURSE he’s gifted because he’s a major leaguer. I shouldn’t even have to say that, but I do. But he’s not gifted enough.

by thejd44 on Nov 22, 2008 5:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

His stubbornness to change and adapt could be seen as stupidity

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Nov 22, 2008 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It certainly hasn't helped anybody, Crosby included

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by Nico on Nov 22, 2008 8:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

we don't know that he's stupid or stubborn

Just that he can’t help not swinging at everything. He probably just has terrible pitch recognition skills … he wouldn’t be the first.

by jdr on Nov 24, 2008 8:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He has given some stuff away, though, with comments like

“My approach worked fine for me in high school, so…” Which is either stubbornness, or else just an incredibly stupid POV.

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by Nico on Nov 24, 2008 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

For a player of his size, he is pretty athletic ...

he’s huge for shortstops that don’t play for the Yankees/Marlins (in completely different ways) but, while his range may not be great (and may be diminishing) it at least started out pretty good.

He had just about everything that he needed to be the next Cal Ripken Jr … the one thing he was missing, unfortunately, was rather critical … the ability to reliably make wood connect with leather … that’s kind of a big deal …

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by devo on Nov 23, 2008 1:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, be nice.

Just because they think he’s hot, doesn’t mean they’re tools.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Nov 22, 2008 10:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Kotsay was not a "very good player"

He was a little bit above average player. And he’s in his thirties and I don’t know who thought he’d be good again. And, you know, he wasn’t good again. He’s not very good defensively and he had a very meh season.

by thejd44 on Nov 22, 2008 10:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

"He's not very good defensively"?

Huh?

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by Nico on Nov 22, 2008 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Not anymore, maybe?

by mikev on Nov 22, 2008 12:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Kotsay's still average defensively at CF.

I know that's a pisser, baby.

by Blicks on Nov 22, 2008 1:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Which, when coupled with "smart, fundamentally sound"

probably still makes him an above average force in CF.

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by Nico on Nov 22, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I think the smart, and fundamentally sound are the only reasons he might still

be average in CF. It’s not his blinding speed.

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Nov 22, 2008 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Could be - I didn't see enough of him to say

From the little I saw, he looked pretty damn solid, like a slightly slower version of the 2005-06 Kotsay we knew and loved.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 22, 2008 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I was referring to post-injury Kotsay

And I’m not sure being “fundamentally sound” makes him above average when he’s an average fielder for position and a below average hitter. The best thing about Kotsay right now is his wife.

by thejd44 on Nov 22, 2008 5:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That's a pretty great thing ...

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Nov 23, 2008 1:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

good riddance

got tired of waiting for this guy to stay healthy through a year. him and harden both drove me crazy…i say peace out and dont let hte door hit you on the way out.

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by Raiders19494 on Nov 21, 2008 7:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Like Crosby would hit the door

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by Nico on Nov 21, 2008 7:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs