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Just Win, Baby (and Don't Get Attached)

The week's big news has clearly been defined with the A's trading for Rockies' outfielder Matt Holliday. Unlike recent off-season trades, despite the A's having given up three players, in this case, we're seen as having "acquired" talent rather than "lost" talent, like we were when we traded away Nick Swisher, Dan Haren and others. Interesting play on words, given that in each case you had players coming and going, but that we are the recipient of the most marquee name has folks thinking differently about the A's in 2009.

Speculate what this means all day long, as to what the new lineup will be, whether more trades are coming, or even if we'll have Holliday around for more than a half-season, but I'll be honest with you... it doesn't really matter.

What does matter is if once the new team takes the field, that our guys outscore their guys, and manage to win more often than we lose.

As fans, we have a tendency to get attached to players. We may put posters of them on our walls, and trade their baseball cards. We may wear their jerseys and claim one (or more) as our favorite. But what we've learned from years of watching, this team especially, is that we shouldn't get attached.

When the A's honored Dennis Eckersley on August 13, 2005, and retired his number, Ray Fosse lavishly praised Huston Street, a promising youngster at the time, and suggested that one day, maybe his number would be retired along the same wall - a preposterous comment then, given his short tenure, and practically laughable, now that we'd seen him replaced by Ziegler and shipped off as part of a package deal to the Rockies. In the stands that day, with many of you, it seemed naive for Fosse to expect a player of Huston's talent, if achieved, to stay with the franchise long enough to have his uniform retired. We've moved beyond the era of players who would spend greater than a decade with one team and excel.

Think about it - are we going to retire Chavez' number when he retires? Or that of Ellis? Probably not. We may like these guys now, but they are filling a role on a team and plugging away on a franchise that's not setting records, winning pennants, or doing much that's memorable, to be honest. While the Raiders have covered themselves in self-mockery, saying to "Just Win, Baby"... that's what we need to do.

If Matt Holliday is going to be the missing piece that turns this franchise from one that battles for 3rd with Texas to one that battles for titles with Anaheim, that's one thing. But if he'll end up being another player to cheer for, hitting around .280 with 20+ homers and contributing to a few A's wins in a 70 victory campaign, then it really doesn't mean a whole lot. I won't be buying a Holliday jersey, just like I didn't buy a Street poster, or lobby for a Greg Smith bobblehead. I want championships.

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That makes me sad

after McGwire (maybe) and Rickey who will be the next Oakland Athletic (of Fremont?) in the HOF?

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Nov 13, 2008 11:47 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Michael Inoa, obviously.

the question is, will OldManOakinboston have enough wits about him to appreciate his induction?

Save Rajai Davis

by oakinboston on Nov 13, 2008 12:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No

The real question according to too many on AN is “Why isn’t he our opening day starter?”

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 13, 2008 12:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Were there any damn justice in the world of baseball...

… Eric Chavez would be having his number retired by the Athletics. Injuries are a shame, but the situation turns tragic when they completely derail the career of one of the best all-round players in baseball.

And Griffey Jr. should have the career HR title. Period.

Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.

by Joey C. on Nov 13, 2008 12:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

A-Rod says hi

He’ll pass “Healthy Griffey” the same way he passes everyone else.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Nov 13, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Via douchebaggery?

Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.

by Joey C. on Nov 13, 2008 6:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Healthy Griffey?

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Nov 13, 2008 10:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oxymoron

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Nov 13, 2008 10:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

""Bobby Crosby’s Release" - Sounds like a good title to Mr. Crosby’s first work in his next career now that we know he can’t play baseball." - Joey C.

by Blicks on Nov 13, 2008 10:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sadaharu Oh should have the career HR title. Oh wait, he does.

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Nov 13, 2008 4:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Superior competition 'round these parts, etc., etc.

Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.

by Joey C. on Nov 13, 2008 6:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I lobbied HARD

for a Joe Blanton Bobblehead. Why one never came, I have no idea. But I can promise you this… If I get word that they are giving a Joe Blanton Bobblehead away in Philly, I will be the first one on E-bay bidding like a manic on it!

Maybe this is the emotional GIRL side of me, but I can’t help but be attached to certain players. The moment I laid eyes on Greg Smith, I was hooked! My friend said it was cause he looked EXACTLY like my boyfriend, and she may be right, but still, Hooked!! It was the same with Bobby, Swish, and Big Country Joe! I can’t help myself. Even after they are gone, there will still be a piece of my heart devoted to those players. Even while watching a Red Sox game. I desperately want them to stink it up and throw the game away, but when Kotsay comes to bat, I am praying he does good, even in that uniform.

You spend half the year watching them, reading about them, talking about them, how can you NOT get attached! Every time there is a trade I tell myself, I won’t get attached, I won’t do it! But then I go to the park and I see them sign an autograph for some cute kid or they hit a home run in their first AB and I am DONE! Devoted, Forever! Heartbreak and all, they are my boys. No matter how hard I try, I don’t think that will ever change, and I don’t think I would want it any other way!

"He's day-to-day," Geren said. "But aren't we all?" - 5/29/08

by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Nov 13, 2008 12:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We all get attached

It’s hard to act like Spock and be logical about this, but it wasn’t that long ago we thought Huston was the bomb and wanted him to stay for life.

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by louismg on Nov 13, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with BCG and I don't see any problem in wishing former A's do well.

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Nov 13, 2008 4:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Seeing quadruple
My friend said it was cause he looked EXACTLY like my boyfriend, and she may be right, but still, Hooked!! It was the same with Bobby, Swish, and Big Country Joe!

Crosby, Swisher and Blanton look exactly like your boyfriend, too? :)

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Nov 13, 2008 6:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They do, actually. I've met the guy

and he has three heads, will swing at anything, parties a bit too much, and could stand to lose a few pounds.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 13, 2008 6:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fucking priceless!

does that mean that when they go out together they all have a high “K” rate as well?

whiff………….!!!!!!

by mrod on Nov 13, 2008 6:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No

She said Blanton, dude

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Nov 13, 2008 10:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wah?

…………….. :"O

by mrod on Nov 14, 2008 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Once again, sounded funnier in my head.

Damn. My own whiff rate has gone up this week.

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Nov 14, 2008 12:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

damn

anyone clamoring for Swisher will now have to figure out what the Yankees might want for him.

"This is Rickey, calling on behalf of Rickey."

by scatterbrian on Nov 13, 2008 12:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8790448/Sources:-Yanks-deal-for-Swisher,-minor-leaguer


The White Sox will receive infielder Wilson Betemit and minor leaguers Jeff Marquez and Jhonny Nunez.

Oh, Swish.

"I believe in spiritual rebirth, and I can't wait to experience that." --Barry Zito

by GreenNGoldGirl on Nov 13, 2008 1:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just shed a tear.

Remember when he was our little Swisher?

He’s all grown up now.

by LoneStranger on Nov 13, 2008 1:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

next stop, Letterman

Did you overpay for those eggs? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 13, 2008 1:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The A's did better in their trade.

I’ll take who we got vs. who Chicago got any day.

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by louismg on Nov 13, 2008 1:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A decent chunk of the appeal

in rooting for a team is the players. I would hope that before injuries befell him that there were kids dreaming of becoming the next Chavez. Hey, I hear ya, louismg. I want the A’s to win so bad, it hurts. But it’s like BCG says, there are our boys. And among those boys we find our favorites, our heroes, our crushes, even our scapegoats. Eventually they leave, but they’re never forgotten. Every now and then, we think about them. And we laugh, we sigh, we cry, we curse.

I wanted to say that besides giving us plenty to talk about and speculate over, this trade has brought out the best in AN this week. Every front page item has been well written and a joy to read, and the comments that ensued were what makes this a go-to site in my book.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 13, 2008 1:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

*there our boys

I need a proofreader, I swear.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 13, 2008 1:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

*they're our boys

Can someone delete all my comments, please?

All work and no play makes 67MARQUEZ a dumb ass.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 13, 2008 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Does not compute.

Your typonese is read well on AN.

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by louismg on Nov 13, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ok, despite the typos

what you wrote above your edits was pretty. If that’s what your book is like, expect a visit from me because i need to go buy it (and I know that’s not what you were talking about in your comment) lol
and I agree with the “we laugh, we sigh, we cry, we curse.” I do the cursing a lot, even if it is just using the word curse…
I miss baseball SOO much. I was just watching an old recorded game, Cupcakes was still on the team, and Huston, and Swish…. :( I’m surprised I was sad about street… but I think I just can’t believe we actually got rid of him. But I miss Cupcakes and Swish, even though we did get Swooney. :(

Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40

by #14fan on Nov 13, 2008 5:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You and I started cheering for Oakland around the same time Marquez ...

and when I was 7, I became attached to Campy, and Vida, and Blue Moon and the rest. Even in my 20’s — when Canseco and Stewart and the boys came along, I got attached to a couple of the guys.
Thankfully, those days are over … I mean, don’t get me wrong, I “like” certain guys – root my ass off for them to do well, etc. etc. But the main reason I cheer for whomever is because they help (hopefully) my team win.
I don’t pay attention to who does or doesn’t sign autographs — did you help my team win? I could care less who visited 100 hospitals and/or got his tenth DUI — did you help my team win? Maybe because I’m in my 40’s now, I’ve realized that heroes need to be found at a zillion other places besides the ballpark. It’s such a cliche, but 100% true in my book … I root for the name on the front of the jersey — I could care less about the one on the back.

I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.

by Vacafan on Nov 13, 2008 1:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're bringing back memories of growing up in Marin in the 70's

There was a commune on our street as well as a Moonie compound about a mile away. I didn’t care about that, or about my mom getting arrested (with me on tow) at the huge SF protest march.

All I cared about was that the A’s were great, and I loved the team and the players.

The upshot of this naturally is that my fantasy baseball team is called the Blue Moonies.

it is not possible to strategize while the ball is coming towards you

by eastcoasta'sfan on Nov 13, 2008 2:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

First off, GREAT sig

(I must have missed seeing it, or it’s new)

Anyways, yeah, I know what you mean. I wasn’t implying that I ride around on my bike with a Mitchell Page baseball card in the spokes. While there is undoubtedly a little boy in me who refuses to grow up, the emotional attachment I have for the A’s, is indeed for the A’s. The team is surely first, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t get attached to certain players. Only these days, it does have more to do with how they performed and the memories they created. When I think of Scutaro, it’s that ringing double down the right field line. When I think of Miggy, it’s the 3-run walkoff that extended The Streak and turned my niece’s baptism into a hugfest.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 13, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's funny that in response to my rant about being non-emotional

that you bring up Mitchell Page …. who I absolutely LOVED!! back in the day. Highway robbery when he didn’t win ROY. Love that guy — and I root for him wherever he goes … is he still with the Cardinals organization? Seems I saw him in another uniform (Pirates?) last year.

I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.

by Vacafan on Nov 13, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he did end up in Pittsburgh.

I mentioned him because the day I got his baseball card (I opened the pack outside the store), I am pretty sure I skipped home. Yes, skipped.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 13, 2008 2:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's how we're different, 67MARQUEZ:

You’re pretty sure you skipped home. I’m pretty sure I skipped school.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 13, 2008 4:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I skipped rocks

Did you overpay for those eggs? @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 13, 2008 6:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but that

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 13, 2008 8:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

's pretty much the only difference.

{bans self from posting until I learn how}

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 13, 2008 8:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Can he type?

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 13, 2008 8:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He takes weird routes to the keyboard,

but ultimately the sentence usually gets constructed.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 13, 2008 8:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm kind of both...

I root for the name on the front of the jersey, but the one on the back determines how loudly.

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Nov 13, 2008 6:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is why I'm not a good A's/baseball fan.

I really don’t look at baseball in general, and the A’s in particular, objectively at all. It’s a purely emotional attachment. It’s pretty much impossible for me to think of A’s players simply in terms of their stats and how valuable they are to the team; it’s about how they play the game, who they are, how long they’ve been around, what memorable moments have they been part of. And this is why it is difficult to be a Beane-era A’s fan: I get attached, Beane trades my favorite player(s), I mourn, I become attached to new guys, Beane trades them… it goes on. Even after years of this pattern, it doesn’t become easier.

So I will mourn the loss of Huston (we will always have 2005)—and Carlos and Greggles, to a lesser extent. But I will welcome Holliday with open arms, because when old favorites leave, new ones are there to step in. The transition is the painful part.

by whiteshoes40 on Nov 13, 2008 2:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Amen!

These were my thoughts Exactly!!

"He's day-to-day," Geren said. "But aren't we all?" - 5/29/08

by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Nov 13, 2008 2:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not just the Beane-era

A’s fans of all ages have seen there they’re their favorites leave. And then new ones emerge.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 13, 2008 2:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

To me, I think it’s fascinating to see which new players are going to be brought in to keep the A’s winning ways.

by mikev on Nov 13, 2008 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I guess it's the same way with all teams.

It just seems more extreme with Billy at the helm.

by whiteshoes40 on Nov 13, 2008 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You know, that is an interesting point.

We always think of the A’s heros leaving now, but it really has ALWAYS been the case. Even if you look pre-FA, it’s the case.

Who can you think of who was a great Athletic and stayed for even pretty much their whole career? Even in Philly, our most noticeable trait is sending our stars away.

The three I can think of are Mickey Cochrane, Gus Zernial (and I may be wrong about them) and of course, Connie Mack.

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Nov 13, 2008 6:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There can't be many

Even without the “great” part, can you think of a player who spent his entire career with the A’s? Dick Green is the only one I can think of. Maybe Steve McCatty?

Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!

by Monday Fan on Nov 14, 2008 12:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just curious

(and I really am curious – this is not written in a smart-ass kind of way) … how can you know “who they are”???
One of the things I’ve learned through the years is that most people are quite different people when out of the public eye. In other words, what we perceive in a three-hour box of time — even if it’s 162 times a year — is probably not the person he or she is, in reality.
Some of the “nicest guys” are big-time jerks in “real life”, while the villians (by perception) are sometimes pretty decent human beings

I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.

by Vacafan on Nov 13, 2008 2:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Like barry bonds?

it is not possible to strategize while the ball is coming towards you

by eastcoasta'sfan on Nov 13, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I'll give you one example that I know of ...

and I probably won’t get in trouble for it on an A’s blog, but Giants fans won’t like it …

Will Clark was a Grade A, top of the line, can’t find a bigger one A**HOLE in every respect. I had the “pleasure” of knowing Mr. Clark and conversing with him regularly over about a 10-year period of time … just a world-class jerk. But the papers loved him, and if you ask most Giants fans perception of him? Super, super nice guy … wow, if they only knew.

I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.

by Vacafan on Nov 13, 2008 2:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, nbd, just having fun here

Couldn’t resist pointing that out.

A former MLB player (and current MLB coach) I know personally has this profile:

1) Kind of arrogant as a kid

2) As a major league player, had the reputation of being a great teammate and a really smart baseball guy

3) Was known for starting fights on the field

4) Mellowed out as a person in his late 20’s and early 30’s and became a really nice guy in his personal life

5) Recently when asked by a friend of my mom’s for an autograph point blank refused and told her with a snarl in his voice to leave him alone

Lesson is you just don’t know. I think that was your point, right?

it is not possible to strategize while the ball is coming towards you

by eastcoasta'sfan on Nov 13, 2008 2:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It'd probably be more accurate to say "who they seem to be,"

since you’re right, we can’t really know who they are. I guess for me it’s just more of how I perceive them throughout the season—watching games, reading articles, maybe getting an autograph, etc.—that affects my attachment to them as players. It’s not really the best way to judge them, but with athletes, it’s probably the best we can get.

by whiteshoes40 on Nov 13, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup, fair enough -- and not usually all that unrealistic.

I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.

by Vacafan on Nov 13, 2008 2:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just realized this post starts with an Al Davis quote

That can’t be good

it is not possible to strategize while the ball is coming towards you

by eastcoasta'sfan on Nov 13, 2008 2:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

25 years ago, maybe

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 13, 2008 2:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Next thing we'll have commitment to excellence

And scary old guys wearing clothes from the 70’s.

BTW who’s older, Hugh Hefner or Al Davis?

it is not possible to strategize while the ball is coming towards you

by eastcoasta'sfan on Nov 13, 2008 2:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hugh's got him by three years.

I would have never guessed that.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 13, 2008 2:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So Al's younger than the Pope. Good.

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Nov 13, 2008 4:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No, not good, he could last a while longer

There is only one hope for raiders fans . . .

it is not possible to strategize while the ball is coming towards you

by eastcoasta'sfan on Nov 13, 2008 6:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And while we all agree about that,

we hope it will be voluntary, and not the other thing.

by lynnzgal on Nov 13, 2008 9:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You hope Al Davis commits suicide?

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Nov 13, 2008 10:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't matter anyway

His thoughts memories will just be downloaded into another body, which will resume daily operations.

au contra ire

by JediLeroy on Nov 13, 2008 10:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like the word combo...

“25 years ago, maybe” and “I’m here to talk about the past.”

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by louismg on Nov 13, 2008 5:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

It’s the team, not the player. It was different in the 70’s with Blue Moon, Vida, Campy, etc. Now with free agency, it’s short term. I root for the A’s and whoever can win us a championship. Go A’s!

by A'sfansince1970 on Nov 13, 2008 8:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Question(s)

Seeing as Donaldson is doing pretty well with the bat right now, what is more likely:
1. Moving up the catching ranks eventually to the MLB (for the A’s)
2. Getting traded to another club as a C
3. Moving to 3B, where he has played in college

And since we’re so desperate for a third baseman, would it be more likely Barton to switch to 3B (as most would love to see) or Donaldson getting moved (back) to 3B?

by rightbackin on Nov 14, 2008 2:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

If he can play 3B decently, I say 3B.

It will depend on his defensive abilities at that base. Same with Barton. If one can play 3B decently, that would be great for the organization.

This.

by Blicks on Nov 14, 2008 6:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How serious are these rumors about Barton trying 3B again?

After the experiment with the River Cats in 2007, I can’t imagine anyone in the organization wants to play him there again.

Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!

by Monday Fan on Nov 14, 2008 1:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As far as I know, no one outside of AN

has brought it up. I think it’s a pipe dream that has little relationship to reality.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 14, 2008 5:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's a relief.

Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!

by Monday Fan on Nov 15, 2008 8:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

for me, it all started with Rickey

i was 7 when they won the ‘89 series, and i guess that was the first year i really paid attention to baseball. i thought rickey was awesome. his speed mesmerized me. i always followed Rickey’s career and rooted for him, but i was almost offended when people would tell me his current team had to be my favorite team now that he was there. nonsense.

i don’t know if it started with stubbornness or a rebellious spirit (i grew up in new york state and now live in nj) or what, but i always stuck with the A’s. even though i wasn’t around for any of it, the spirit and style of their teams in the ‘70s and even the history of Connie Mack managing the team for 50 years always drew me. something about the Oakland A’s always seemed pretty cool…

so regarding swisher, haren, cargon, etc., i’ll always root for them to do well, just not at the expense of the A’s. there is something special about the white shoe wearing Oakland A’s that stays with anybody and everybody who plays for them at some point.

by jlanning17 on Nov 14, 2008 8:08 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

In general, I continue rooting for ex-A's

The moment they put on a Giants’ uniform, they’re dead to me. If it was a trade they couldn’t stop, I root for them again when they leave the Giants. If they went to the Giants by choice (like Zito), they’re tainted forever and nothing can remove the stench.

Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!

by Monday Fan on Nov 14, 2008 1:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Does that go for coaches as well?

Here’s looking at you, Carney.

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by louismg on Nov 14, 2008 10:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Especially him

Lansford is my least favorite A’s player ever. I had a tough enough time rooting for him when he was playing for the good guys.I think he looks perfect in a Giants uniform.

Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!

by Monday Fan on Nov 15, 2008 8:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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