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A's Decline Embree

The Oakland A's announced on Friday that they had declined the 2009 option on veteran left-hander Alan Embree.

"In an unsurprising move, the Oakland A's declined their 2009 option on left-handed reliever Alan Embree. Embree went 2-5 with a 4.96 ERA in 70 appearances last season for Oakland, his second year with the A's. Oakland has filled the veteran's 40-man roster spot with infielder Joe Dillon, who had been cut by the Milwaukee Brewers earlier in the week."

 

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Not a big surprise

The question now becomes whether they offer him arbitration, and I see no real reason not to since he’s likely to make more on the market than an arbiter would award.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Oct 31, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes, we've cleared that up

All players must be offered arbitration to return draft pick compensation.

He will be a Type B. tigersthoughts.blogspot.com has full estimated Elias rankings for all players up now.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Oct 31, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Dillon?

The boy’s got some good minor league numbers recently (after starting his career out slow), and he can play some third base. Does Billy intend him to be a backup option in case Chavez isn’t ready to go? What does that mean for Baisley?

'That's something we do...thirteen hits and not score'-Terrence Long

by DyeLongJustice on Oct 31, 2008 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd guess AAA roster filler

and an injury replacement option.

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by DMOAS on Oct 31, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

and relying on Chavez is better because?

'That's something we do...thirteen hits and not score'-Terrence Long

by DyeLongJustice on Oct 31, 2008 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Chavez is 75% healthy, he'll be

7x better than Dillon if he’s 100% healthy?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Oct 31, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Dillon is this year's Brooks Conrad

…yay?

I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.

by franks a lot on Oct 31, 2008 3:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh crap

You’re right. This means when Dillon hits .340 in spring training all the people who don’t know better will be demanding he gets 6 starting jobs.

by thejd44 on Oct 31, 2008 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think we shuld put him at ss bocro suxxxxxx!

Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.

by Joey C. on Nov 1, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yay, arrogance!

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Nov 2, 2008 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Who are you accusing of arrogance--

the fans who don’t know better, or thejd?

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Nov 2, 2008 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

The latter.

Condescending probably would have been a better word.

The attitude towards people around here who offer opinions that contradict the statistical braintrust gets really tired, even if those opinions are in fact dubious.

There are better example’s than thejd’s post, anyway, so in retrospect, I should have pointed it out another time.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Nov 2, 2008 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn it

examples, not example’s.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Nov 2, 2008 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It has been my experience that most people who complain about arrogance or condescension

are really complaining about the fact that they cannot refute someone’s arguments in fair debate. It’s a time honored tactic of anti-intellectual “populists.”

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Nov 2, 2008 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

So let me get this straight

your argument is that people who complain about arrogance or condescension are just jealous? There’s nothing wrong with being right, but you can be right without being an ass (speaking generally, not towards anything above). It’s been my experience that most people who are arrogant or condescending may be right some of the time but have egos too big to ever admit they’re wrong when they are and generally follow with a jealousy response.

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by DMOAS on Nov 2, 2008 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Basically, yes, that is my position

I’d say, throwing myself out of the equation here, that I disagree with comments characterizing another person’s opinion as “arrogant” at least 80% of the time.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Nov 2, 2008 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

My position is that people

who complain about arrogance or condescension just find arrogance or condescension both irritating and also entirely unnecessary. My current sample size of one supports this theory. Cindi remains “undecided”.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 2, 2008 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

{targets Cindi for robocalls}

Oh, if people only knew how frugal we are. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 3, 2008 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

transmission must have been garbled

I’ve been hired by McDonald’s to create a groundswell of astroturf support to bring the McRib back.

Oh, if people only knew how frugal we are. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 3, 2008 11:32 PM PST up reply actions  

they actually hired John Updike to write an early promotional campaign

The Ribwiches of Eastwick

Oh, if people only knew how frugal we are. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 4, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

And Clint Eastwood to direct

the Ribwiches of Madison County

au contra ire

by JediLeroy on Nov 4, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

the Tracy-Hepburn classic

Adam’s Ribwich

Oh, if people only knew how frugal we are. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 4, 2008 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

JK Rowling's Companion book

Ribwich Through the Ages

au contra ire

by JediLeroy on Nov 4, 2008 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough

But I’m curious whether you’d consider that 80%, how often do you think the comment made was a little over the top or gone a little too far when making their point? I would characterize a lot of those commenters as being annoyed when they post, but a little too frequently respond without restraint.

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by DMOAS on Nov 2, 2008 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Nov 3, 2008 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I'll miss grandpa just because he was nice to me when I met him.

I don’t think I’m going to miss his pitching much.

Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40

by #14fan on Oct 31, 2008 3:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Good.

Remove the dead weight.

The Dirty Canuck of the now.

by Blicks on Oct 31, 2008 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

so embree is more dead weight than joe dillon?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Oct 31, 2008 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Players with guaranteed contracts are, virtually by definition, more dead weight than players without them

Dillon can be cut loose at any time (cf Jay Marshall, Jeff Fiorentino, etc etc).

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Nov 1, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

don't know him, but nice pictures!

Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40

by #14fan on Oct 31, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

In that first photo, he looks strangely like John McCain.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Oct 31, 2008 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

the first photo he looks like he's on pot

the last photo he looks like he’s on the pot.

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by DMOAS on Oct 31, 2008 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he looks more like he's

on THE pot. Strain

"A’s baseball….It’s almost better than a stick in the eye." ~ alox

by Gallagher's Watermelons on Nov 1, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

if that’s the case get him off our team

by HRH on Oct 31, 2008 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

he even looks like brooks conrad

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Oct 31, 2008 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

When did he get his lips sutured together?

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Oct 31, 2008 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

huh?

Whats he doing hitting from the right side of the plate? (joke)

by apilgrim on Oct 31, 2008 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

his face is so intense!

'That's something we do...thirteen hits and not score'-Terrence Long

by DyeLongJustice on Oct 31, 2008 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

no wonder....on the wrong side of 30

and still trying to stick on a major league roster…

by OaklandSi on Nov 1, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

third photo

“I’m gonna sit here and hold my breath until someone hits the ball to me.”

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Oct 31, 2008 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've heard that Embree

wants to retire in Seattle. (He lives in southern Washington state, near Portland, OR.)

Not sure the Mariners would want him, though. Maybe with a discount.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Nov 1, 2008 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd read that he wanted to go to a contender

or if not, then to Seattle. Since he plans to play just one more year, I’d be surprised if he turned down an offer from a contender.

by OaklandSi on Nov 1, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you met the Mariners?

They’d sign the exhumed corpse of Pee Wee Reese.

Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.

by Joey C. on Nov 1, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dillon

Could end up being the right-handed hitting portion of a corner IF platoon with Hannahan/Barton.

"Some of the men didn't wait for the women and children to jump off the sinking ship that is our season." - 67MARQUEZ

by notsellingjeans on Nov 1, 2008 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

On a Side Note: Foulke Files for free agency.

Link

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Nov 2, 2008 1:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Declining Embree is unfortunately all too easy

This year, for the most part, his declension was only appropriate in the accusative case.

Oh, if people only knew how frugal we are. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 2, 2008 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

When I think of Embree,

“declining” is a word that comes to mind rather quickly.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 2, 2008 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Declining Embree

Nom. embree
Gen. embreetis
Dat. embreeti
Acc. embreetem
Abl. embreete

Example: Cum primum clavator domumcursum percussisset, gubernator Gerenus embreetem traxit.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Nov 2, 2008 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Pompous ass

Cute, definitely firm, but still pompous. The rest of you is fine, though.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 2, 2008 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

pampas grass

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Nov 3, 2008 3:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, if people only knew how frugal we are. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 3, 2008 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

embreetis?

Does that mean “A condition in which a manager is irrationally unable to resist giving high-leverage innings to over-the-hill relievers despite better available options”?

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Nov 2, 2008 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought it meant you were carrying a ginormous fetus

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Nov 2, 2008 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

i approve this latin based joke

just getting involved.

late.

BB should send scouts to watch cricket players.

by alea iacta est on Nov 4, 2008 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

We had an option all this time??

Damn.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Nov 2, 2008 12:34 PM PST reply actions  

Pretty easy call.

The A’s will be a lot better off next year with Blevins in that role.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Nov 2, 2008 3:15 PM PST reply actions  

from previous AFL

mcbeth, mitchell, robertson, etc were very good and we know how that turned out

at the very least gray if taken off the 40 man , has a decent chance of getting picked in the rule 5 like jared burton

or maybe a throw in addition in some deal

by Asfan4ever723 on Nov 2, 2008 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

yay, arrogance!

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Nov 3, 2008 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

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