Open Thread: World Series Game 5 (cont.)
by Taj Adib on Oct 27, 2008 7:39 PM PDT
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PrintControversy abounds in this tight game 5. Kazmir seemed to get squeezed out of several close balls and strikes calls early in the game which lead to a couple scoring opportunities for the Phils. Meanwhile, Hamels is benefitting from a very wide strike zone...
The field is virtually unplayable at this point, soaked with rain and the umpiring crew is playing tricks with the infield fly rule...
This game is rife for late-inning drama of one sort or another...
Game tied 2-2 in the bottom of the 6th after Pena came up with a HUGE RBI single to send in Upton in the top of the inning...
Update: 7:45 PM PST - As of now, play has been suspended. If the rain lets up sometime tonight, the game will resume and if not, the game will be played tomorrow or some other time and resume where it left off.
Update by baseballgirl 8:30 PM PST: This game has been called for tonight. They're going to try again tomorrow, but the weather looks less than favorable.
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Okay, we can resume play later?
"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers
MAN, I was hoping for a Longoria hit.
"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers
We should protest this game.
Unless the Rays win, then we all shut our mouths and let the game go back to Tampa Bay.
Actually, sending the game back to Tampa might be wise
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Hi person!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Ahhh...suspended game.
Not a rainout, Phils win.
"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers
In the past, they would have wrapped up the game after 5 innings
2-1, Phils win…that’s terrible
"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers
by baseballgirl on Oct 27, 2008 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
If it reverted back to the "last full inning"
as it used to, it would be 2-1 Phillies after 5 with the top of the sixth wiped out.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I would have prefered that...
…if only because it would make Bud Selig look maximally bad.
(And because I’m a traditionalist at heart!)
by GreenNGoldSooner on Oct 27, 2008 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
That's false (Joe Buck had this wrong also)
You don’t wipe a visiting team’s tying or go-ahead run off the books. Once the visiting team ties it or go in front, the game is suspended at that point. The run isn’t wiped off the books with a reversion back to the previous inning. That rule was changed about 30 years ago.
No, I meant that Pena's hit was HUGE
If they hadn’t tied it, Rays lose SERIES
"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers
by baseballgirl on Oct 27, 2008 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I tripped over my words a bit
Was trying to emphasize that Buck was wrong in suggesting that rule was just changed in 2007. In fact such a score reversion rule did once exist but it was changed about 30 years ago as I said..
weather tomorrow is supposed to be worse...
stupid east coast weather
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
I was thinking the same thing...
otherwise a stupid way to end the WS.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
good thing it's tied then. I hate to see how much worse they'd let it get
Proud mommy of "mini-kapers"
Absolutely.
It’d end the World Series in a lame ass way. I think even the Phillies wouldn’t have liked that.
The book "The Big Train"
about pitcher Walter Johnson narrates how Washington lost the 7th game of the 1925 WS, a game which was played in a steady rain. Conditions became totally irrational for baseball, and the Commissioner (Landis??) turned to the owner of Washington and said, “I’m calling this game..your club, the Washington Nationals, are the winners of the World Series”.
The owner of Nationals did not want to win a truncated game. HIs team was ahead, but he wanted nine innings for Game Seven.
Turns out, Pittsburgh rallied and scored, went ahead, and won the World Series!!
Officially awaiting the 2009 season.
by One won lost won on Oct 27, 2008 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a feeling the Phillies would do the same.
I think it’s just fair that the game goes a full 9, no matter who is ahead.
Look, there's my house!
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Planning ahead -January 24 - A's Fanfest
or am I the last to know?
"And sometimes, when it seems like all hope is gone, Life tosses you a special gift of a baseball game" . 7/10/08 BaseBallGirl headline
The weather in Oakland on January 24
will probably be better suited for baseball than the weather in Philly tonight.
by Englishmajor on Oct 27, 2008 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think if I start walking right now...
I might make it to Oakland by then.
But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.
as Steven Wright says
“when you think about it, just about anywhere is walking distance if you have the time.”
alaska A residing in colorado.
Rays should pull a LaRussa and go south for a couple of days...
wait for the Act of God to run its course.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
Oh, I wonder what it will be
Test pattern bars! Yay!
by Englishmajor on Oct 27, 2008 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Ew...I have Married with Children
"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers
by baseballgirl on Oct 27, 2008 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather watch Gossip Girl
than give into football before the WS is over.
But instead, I’ll play Typing Race on facebook.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
So it's suspended now?
2-2?
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
yay. now I can go back to bed.
bye people!
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
Yep.
Well rain delay, actually. If the weather doesn’t get better tonight, suspended and picked up at a later time.
I got bars too
then switched off.
Officially awaiting the 2009 season.
by One won lost won on Oct 27, 2008 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm at work now and about leave, so if the game resumes at some point in the next hour...
can another front pager update the thread info?
I'm never gonna do it without the fez on!
I will, but I doubt it.
"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers
by baseballgirl on Oct 27, 2008 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't wait up all night. I'm off to bed as soon as MNF is over
sometimes it’s good to be on the West Coast. I’m jealous
Proud mommy of "mini-kapers"
They should go back to Tampa and play 2 games
Wednesday and Thursday, and if the Rays win both, come back to Philly on Friday and continue game 5!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
My Local News: What do Local Police in Oklahoma Do...
…to keep sex offenders away from trick-or-treaters?
Is this a real problem?
by GreenNGoldSooner on Oct 27, 2008 7:50 PM PDT reply actions
What a concept!
Apparently some states mandate signs in sex offenders yards!
by GreenNGoldSooner on Oct 27, 2008 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Obama's a sex offender?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Next year's Game 7 would be on November 6.
Please re-think this. Or allow only California and domed teams to play.
Except the Angels, Dodgers, and Giants.
I'm here to talk about the past.
And "amen" to your preferred CA team
your fingertips to god’s ears, and the A’s bats.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
Lew was on the half-time show
Amateurish camera work and direction. They kept cutting at random between a closeup of Lew that was taken off to the side (so he didn’t know whether to look at the camera or the interviewer) and a medium shot taken from above that emphasized Lew’s tummy in a slightly-too-tight Earthquakes jersey. Lew didn’t have much to say except that he really likes the Toronto soccer stadium and thinks that’s the kind of facility he wants to have for the Quakes.
by Englishmajor on Oct 27, 2008 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Speak for yourself, Englishmajor -
I’m blacked out in Berkeley.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I hate that guy
He has the most bad-ass job in the world, and I’m jealous. He just gets drunk and eats awesome food all the time.
He looks like this guy that used to come into my work
It definitely wasn’t him, but that guy was one suave sonofabitch.
Yeah, the internet just can't keep my interest anymore
I need to get a job now that baseball is almost over.
The 1962 Yankees-Giants WS had a gap of 5 days between Game 5 and Game 6 because of rain in SF
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Six days between Games 3 and 4 of the '11 Series.
(A’s and Giants, ironically).
I'm here to talk about the past.
That was the Series that ended with McCovey up, 1-0 Yankees lead, Alou on 3rd and Mays on 2nd
and McCovey hit a screaming liner right at Richardson at 2B to end it. The legend is that Richardson had moved a step to one side before the pitch to smooth out the infield dirt and hadn’t gotten back into position before Ralph Terry threw, but I’m not sure if that’s just apocryphal.
In any case, if Stretch’s liner had been hit 2 feet in any direction from where it ended up, the Giants would have won on a walk-off, 2-1.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Think how close they've come to winning it all.
Twice. But they don’t get the mention that the Cubs do. Of course it’s “only” been since ’54.
I'm here to talk about the past.
I make sure to "mention" it as often as possible
and preferably within hearing of Gnats fans.
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
I remember the rain for the 1962 World Series
I thought they might just “give up” (heheheh). I thought the adults would say, “We can’t wait anymore, that’s it for baseball for this year.”
Called on account of rain!
I vaguely recall it rained a bit in LA too. But SF, according to the newspapers, was simply inundated. Picture of ponds on the infield.
Officially awaiting the 2009 season.
by One won lost won on Oct 27, 2008 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey someone look up
whether the Infield Fly Rule is optional… while we’re in rain delay
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
The key to it being "optional" is the phrase "ordinary effort"
An INFIELD FLY is a fair fly ball (not including a line drive nor an attempted bunt)
which can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, when first and second, or first,
second and third bases are occupied, before two are out. The pitcher, catcher and any
outfielder who stations himself in the infield on the play shall be considered infielders for the
purpose of this rule.
When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly, the umpire shall
immediately declare "Infield Fly" for the benefit of the runners. If the ball is near the
baselines, the umpire shall declare "Infield Fly, if Fair."
The ball is alive and runners may advance at the risk of the ball being caught, or
retouch and advance after the ball is touched, the same as on any fly ball. If the hit becomes
a foul ball, it is treated the same as any foul.
If a declared Infield Fly is allowed to fall untouched to the ground, and bounces foul
before passing first or third base, it is a foul ball. If a declared Infield Fly falls untouched to
the ground outside the baseline, and bounces fair before passing first or third base, it is an
Infield Fly.
(Part of Rule 2.00)
ordinary effort in ordinary weather?
or ordinary effort in extraordinary weather?
"optimism 1 pessimism 0" ~Dirk
But it's not optional in that the defense
cannot decline to have it called – it’s there to protect the runners.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Here's one Philadelphian's account of it
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Ok, I came back for a second, because Cupcakes is on the Yahoo homepage.
Apparently a bunch of people were freaking out with the dark spot on his cap. I laughed. linky
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
pathetic copycats. can't they keep their baked goods straight?
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
On the football game,
it says baseball is suspended until tomorrow
"I know they're the defending World Champs, but they are the whiniest team in baseball" -Rays announcers
I hope I have my laptop back by then. :(
I feel lost.
I’ll be alright without you… There’ll be someone else… I keep tellin myself."
But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.
I'm off to the bedroom to watch the football game and get to sleep
see ya tomorrow night
Proud mommy of "mini-kapers"
Any word on the plan
if they can’t continue in Philly tomorrow?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Reporter asks if this will cause rethinking of schedule so postseason starts earlier. Bud says no. “Like most things in life you have to be lucky.”
Now they’re asking about the infield fly thing. Umpire says infield fly rule includes weather conditions. “The players were truly professional – no one complained”.
by Englishmajor on Oct 27, 2008 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Rays have checked out of their hotels so they may have to stay somewhere outside Philadelphia!
by Englishmajor on Oct 27, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
That guy can't stay away from a tie game, can he?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
He's actually pretty lucky that this one is tied,
just think of the reaction that would have happened if the game was not tied and they were not able to finish it.
If they don't want to "rethink" the postseason schedule
they had better “rethink” the rules under which a postseason game can be terminated before 9 innings have been played. If the Rays had not tied the game, they would have had to violate the rules in order to declare the game suspended rather than official and completed. That would have been the common-sense decision and I think just about everyone would have agreed with it on that basis, but still, your decisions really need to match up with your written rules.
You are right,
but I as I just heard Selig say they would have gone into a rain delay as long as it would take, ultimately a good decision, but you make a great point.
Ultimately that would be one rule he should absolutely break
In the off-season they’d better amend the rules that all post-season games must have all 9-innings or more played regardless of other circumstances. Anything else cheapens the results.
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The game would have been suspended even if Philly was winning
Selig said he would not have ended the World Series without playing 9 innings, and as commissioner he has the right to do it. He can invokke the “in tthe best interest of baseball” rule in this hypothetical situation, and it would be the right decision to do so.
by thejd44 on Oct 28, 2008 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep, there was no way
He was going to let the Series end this way. NO WAY. I think he’s learned from the ASG mess. But you would think there would be rules in place for such a thing happening, even if it’s never happened before.
The game should not have started in the first place. Then there would be no controversy. But the Philles should be more pissed than the Rays. They just wasted their ace, and maybe their best chance to end this thing.
I'm here to talk about the past.
Lance Berkman
told me they’re finishing the game at Marlin’s stadium
by ErikFanClubPres on Oct 27, 2008 8:34 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Never name drop
tom cruise taught me that
by ErikFanClubPres on Oct 27, 2008 8:34 PM PDT reply actions
They wanted to keep the game from getting comical
Also, Selig says that even if the game wouldn’t have been tied, the game would still be suspended and played at a later date.
he must have run his hand through his hair
and thought “oh no, it’s snowing too.”
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actually
I saw a shot of it snowing in Philly on ESPN and Weather.com forecasts rain/snow/wind in the evening.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
there's a report coming from
the Good Fight (Phillies fan blog) that at 2 pm EST the commissioner will cancel today’s continuation of Game 5.
Fooey.
Well at this rate, the Phillies might get to bring out Hamels again.
After all, he’s still the pitcher of record.
I'm here to talk about the past.
It's officially off until Wednesday night
Game 5 of the 2008 World Series will not resume Tuesday due to inclement weather, Major League Baseball announced. Game 5 is now tentatively scheduled to resume on Wednesday evening at 8:37 p.m. ET, weather permitting.
If you tune in tomorrow night expecting to see a pre-game show, you won’t, because that the night of Obama’s 30-minute ad buy from 8-8:30 Eastern.
Good news for House fans tonight, though
I'm a street walkin cheetah with a heart full of napalm.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Oct 28, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
ah, thats why it starts @ 8:37. I thought that was an odd time.
methinks TV has too much power over baseball.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05
< speaking of Selig >
“And I for one welcome our cockroach overlords. I’d like to remind them that, as a trusted media personality, I could be helpful in rounding up others to toil in his non-union stadium construction caves.”
I'm a street walkin cheetah with a heart full of napalm.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Oct 28, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
It'll be one to tell our grand children about
“You ever hear about the 2008 World Series Game 5? Well there was a game thread that lasted about 5 days due to a rainout. It was glorious, there were FAIL pictures and snarky remarks for days! You may never see a thread like that in your lifetime sonny.”
You forgot the part where you tell the little bastard to get the hell off your lawn
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
Jack Hannahan is not a bastard
Well, as far as I know anyway.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Philles fans have been reporting that it wasn't raining
or snowing or anything tonight…you can imagine how they’re feeling
Blind?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Man, what a finish!
I am so glad they decided to play tonight, after all. Amazing, just amazing. They’ll be talking about this one for years to come.
I'm here to talk about the past.
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