World Series: Game 4 - Open Thread
by Taj Adib on Oct 26, 2008 5:00 PM PDT
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PrintIt might be true that the ratings whores in the corporate offices of major league baseball and the Fox News Corporation are not at all thrilled by the World Series at-hand, however, for us fans it's been great entertainment so far.
The Phils, fresh off an exciting, late-night Game 3 win, will look to take a commanding 3-1 series lead and possibly set themselves up to win it all at home tomorrow if everything breaks right tonight.
Former Athletic Joe "Cupcakes" Blanton will take the hill for Philadelphia tonight. It's a little weird seeing a drafted and developed Oakland player like Blanton pitch with another jersey on, but I'm glad for him and also somewhat pleased that his trade has worked out fairly well for both Oakland and Philadelphia. Joe was nothing special in the regular season for either Oakland or Philly, however he has pitched well in two post-season starts so far for his new team. He's gone a total of 11 innings, struck out 11, walked 4, won 1 game and has a total ERA of 3.27. Those are some pretty good numbers for a guy without overpowering stuff.
So tonight, just for sentimental Blantonian reasons, I'll be rooting for the Phillies. Although, I wouldn't mind a Rays' win either, as long as the game is close and well-played, just as every game so far in this series has been.
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Hey, Ice Cream! Ice Cream heeere ...
Tonight’s drinking game:
One shot for every time Joe Buck says “postseason”.
Pumpkin
The fifth for me!
{drinks a fifth}
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Sorry
Can’t afford to be wasted by the top of the 2nd.
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
Why not?
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
For the sake of my family, I need to remain functional
(dammit)
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
Does that expire after the 2nd inning?
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Jeanne Zelasko's voice
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
Too bad she rarely says anything intelligent with it
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
Yes, she's speaking now and I've no idea what she's talking about
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
No cupcake mojo.
Even though I want cupcakes NAO.
Carlos and Victor Zambrano have exactly the same number of career postseason wins. Who would have thought?
The baseball fan in me is rooting for a tied series.
But the baseball fan in me takes a back seat to the Blanton fan in me. Go Phils.
I'm here to talk about the past.
The majority?
Carlos and Victor Zambrano have exactly the same number of career postseason wins. Who would have thought?
I'm quite accustomed to being the minority.
In fact I kind of like it.
I'm here to talk about the past.
hey! you both are here! I wish I could stay longer...
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
Why can't you?
I’m going to be in and out as I try to cook at the same time again.
39 remarkable innings.
I have three essays I have to finish, along with two lab reports and
a math test, and some other test in some other subject. I’ve been goofing off for a while, and now I’m really behind.
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
The World Series will be over Thursday and then you can concentrate again. :-)
39 remarkable innings.
I just wish it wasn't due!!!!
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
I want the Rays to win, too
So how about this: Blanton pitches really well, leaves with a lead, goes into the clubhouse and while he’s having a nice dinner the Phillies bullpen blows it?
by Englishmajor on Oct 26, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
i don’t think many people were a fan of it!
by ilovegregsmith on Oct 26, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Forgot to time the anthem
I bet she went over two minutes easily.
And it was horrible.
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
I liked it.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
The "FREE-ee. FREE-ee. FREE-ee" part was...original.
It stank, but it was a different kind of stink than the usual.
by Englishmajor on Oct 26, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I would love, even just one time, to see one of these recording stars sing that song straight up.
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
You mean, it would be so normal it would be radical?
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
Somebody singing the song as written would be awesome.
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
I'm trying to think of the last time I heard that at a game.
but I’m not quite sure if i’ve ever heard it normal, so I think I’m wasting my time.
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
Eric Karros looked... different.
Much less gritty veteran ballplayer, much more sleek TV broadcaster. I didn’t even recognize him yesterday.
Go Rays (mi fa so la ti do)
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Now you've got me singing Julie Andrews songs
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
She was good in S.O.B.
Excellent acting.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
This stairway look familiar?
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
Can I just say.. the Rays better win! I am damn tired but staying up to watch this. Last night I spent most of my night visiting my mom but I had a 2 hour wait to see her in the emergency waiting room where a guy with tourettes went on a rampage! it was almost as entertaining as baseball
I used to think my middle school kids had Tourette's
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
haha well i know for a fact the guy last night I had it
by ilovegregsmith on Oct 26, 2008 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
i must say..he was entertaining while he fought..and so was the guy who keep kicking his gfs wheelchair whenever Garza threw a ball
by ilovegregsmith on Oct 26, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Miller:
Rays trail for first time in this post-season. Apparently losing Game 1 doesn’t count.
I'm here to talk about the past.
i hope you got on messanger just for me haha
by ilovegregsmith on Oct 26, 2008 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
konbanwa
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
Guten Abend
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
I think "Everyone" would be better there.
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
yay! I have my very own "hi!"
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
Full count to the first hitter
Sounds about right.
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
I'm so sad I don't get to see Cupcakes!!!!
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
Actually, I AM invited to Iowa next week. Doubt I'll be going, though.
I can’t stay long because my laptop has a virus and is in the shop. I’m on the 1991 desktop with no telly around.
But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.
They cut Buck off for the commercial
Wish they’d do that all the time. Even when they aren’t going to a commercial.
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
My Inner Gort crys at that re-make
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
There was a "Day the Earth Stood Still" before the one with Michael Rennie?
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not THAT old
;)
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
I think I missed a good game last night. :(
I was watching a program about the D.C. sniper’s wife.
But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.
I was watching Family Guy Season Six with my niece.
Weird priorities, I know.
I'm here to talk about the past.
There should be a FalseTV
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm watching it now
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I love how Fox decided one day that
Blanton “can be wild” – this is based on what? The fact that he has been a control pitcher throughout his career?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I heard they were breaking up
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, so you LIKE Morgan? Seriously? I can't even fathom how this can be
He’s so completely obtuse it’s not funny. McCarver is the master of the obvious, but Morgan is just an idiot behind the microphone.
by thejd44 on Oct 26, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
They work well together
The problem is that Morgan says so many incredibly stupid things, and Miller tends to agree with him.
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
I suppose there's no possibility of reconciliation?
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Miller > Buck, but I actually think I'd rather hear McCarver than Morgan.
by thejd44 on Oct 26, 2008 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes FOX reminds me of political talking points
Where they just repeat the same “fact” about a player over and over again because that’s what the script says to do, not because it’s true.
by thejd44 on Oct 26, 2008 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
The script is always true.
It says so at the bottom.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Like Carlin once wrote:
The statement below is true.
The above statement is false.
I'm here to talk about the past.
They would be more accurate if they said he can have meltdowns
which I hope he has tonight and a major one.
TB pitcher looks like shit 7 pitches into game.
Go Rays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beat the Inferior League
I'm glad Buck is calling out such blatantly bullshit umpiring
I’m not saying they’re crooked, but when you miss a call so completely obvious and RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE, that’s the type of thing that’s going to make people wonder if Tim Donaghy is doing baseball games now.
by thejd44 on Oct 26, 2008 5:46 PM PDT reply actions
These umpires should be fucking shot
Go Rays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beat the Inferior League
Shot while having sexual intercourse?
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I haven't seen any of the plays, although I've read about them
are they really THAT bad?
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
The umpire was literally no more than 4 feet from the tag
And the tag was pretty obvious. I’m not even sure how he could’ve not seen it.
by thejd44 on Oct 26, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, his but was indented by the glove.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
That's "butt" of course
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
This was a pyramidal indentation...clearly glove inflicted
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I know, I just wanted to make a butt crack joke
by thejd44 on Oct 26, 2008 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I know, I just wanted to describe the shape with detailed imagery
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to ask about his "ifs" and "ands"
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
then maybe I'll get to see it
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
Or even Fox
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, also, McCarver is wrong.
You do NOT go to second base on that play.
by thejd44 on Oct 26, 2008 5:47 PM PDT reply actions
Why not?
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
The play at 2B was easier than that one....as you just saw
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Except the guy was out.
You could make that argument for anything if your defense is “because the 3B umpire is going to blow the call.”
The second base umpire could’ve been checking out a hottie in the crowd and might’ve missed the force play, too.
by thejd44 on Oct 26, 2008 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
A rundown is always harder than a not close force play
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
But you're also taking into account that a run scores if you take the force (and don't get the DP)
by thejd44 on Oct 26, 2008 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but you should get the DP and the rundown makes that impossible
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
A lot more can go wrong going for the DP, that's all I'm saying.
If you have an easy (and it was easy, and he WAS out) on on a runner who is going to score, you should take it.
by thejd44 on Oct 26, 2008 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't agree - if you have an inning ending DP
you take it, rather than pitching to Burrell with runners on. Had it been a chopper or dribbler, I totally agree; a hard one-hopper with Howard running? Take the DP.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I got sidetracked. Has Buck said postseason yet? How many shots do I need?
Proud mommy of "mini-kapers"
I haven't heard him say the word yet, but six sounds good
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Unlike last night's call at 1B, that call was just farking wrong
Maybe Kerwin Danley won’t get invited back to another Series
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
I think it was Welke
Danley’s in RF.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Peter Happy!
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
Pedro FAILiz
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
Three mistakes on one play:
Bad decision (easy DP if Sonnanstine goes to second), bad execution (late throw to Longoria), bad call (how do you miss that?).
Great recovery, though, by “Sonny” (pronounced SOHN-ee.)
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I'm of the opinion that a groundball to the pitcher = never an easy DP
by thejd44 on Oct 26, 2008 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Why? Because pitchers can't throw to bases?
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Cupcakes trying to make this another 2-hour game
Must’ve skipped the pre-game meal.
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
We should have starved him every time then.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
In fairness
the world series post-game thread is one hell of a meal and they missed out on yesterday because of the rain.
In search of a new signature. Say something funny and you may see your comment here!
True, only a few comments yesterday
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Um, can i plead guilty by Blanton brow wiping shots?
In search of a new signature. Say something funny and you may see your comment here!
Here's a drinking game.
A shot each time Joe wipes his brow and adjusts his cap. You’d be lucky to make it through an inning.
And Colorado has ak a
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
And Alaska has...
sa_P?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Alternate language software?
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm glad the Rays beat the White Sox,
but it would’ve been funny to see Swish vs. Cupcakes in the Series.
Oy. My daughter just plugged up the toilet.
The last time I saw something that large and long I was watching Tremors.
Pumpkin
are you trying to make me sick?
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
I think it depends on how old she is
by likeiwouldtellyou on Oct 26, 2008 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
42?
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
They're adorable at that age, aren't they?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Sure with a personal trainer and plastic surgery
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
So it's your fault!
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sorry!
but at least you can’t blame that crappy call on Rollins’ ass on me.
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King
Heh...you said crappy and ass in the same sentence
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
You were playing the drinking game without watching the game?
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Dachsunds!
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Little miss specialK does much the same thing
She’s a chip off the old block.
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
The proudest moment in my life
will be when my kid clogs the toilet, and not from using too much toilet paper.
Wasn't Jorge Cantu doing good this year? Is he even on the roster?
by likeiwouldtellyou on Oct 26, 2008 6:12 PM PDT reply actions
Yes and No.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Blanton
It’s the same as it ever was.
If he keeps the ball down and batters guessing, Cupcakes can be a very effective pitcher – at least the first couple of times through the lineup.
You just wonder if a 4-spot is looming
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
he's going to crash in the 6th. or at least that's what he did with the A's.
maybe being traded fixed him of that.
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
Removing him after the 5th could also work
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
or he could crash in the 6th. but he will crash. mark my words.
Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40
He's a fat guy and he pitched 240 innings last year
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
NON PERFORMANCE
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
He said "postseason"!
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
He said it again!
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I know man, you've always had my back
I love you, man. (true story, my friend gets like this when he’s drunk)
How about a shot for every walk or hit?
by likeiwouldtellyou on Oct 26, 2008 6:20 PM PDT reply actions
what about if they end up scoring?
by likeiwouldtellyou on Oct 26, 2008 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Those last two PA featured a couple of really bad swings
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
what's the difference between earned and unearned?
by likeiwouldtellyou on Oct 26, 2008 6:28 PM PDT reply actions
About $500,000
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Yummy indeed
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you kidding me, most 2B don't even get to that ball,
even if he does get it out of his glove cleanly he didn’t have a play.
So Feliz can hit a hanging slider
Who knew?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
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