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DLD 10/25/08-next time someone makes a DLD: Wherein I Rank the 50 States

Because I like lists

1. California
-Bay Area is the best place in the country
-LA and San Diego are also among the nation's 10 best cities
-Tectonic plates will cast Orange County out to sea in due course
2. Oregon
-Portland is America's most beautiful city, populated by top flight people
-#1 in the nation on a metric I shall not mention
3. Washington
-Seattle is America's second most beautiful city, populated by even more flight people
4. Alaska
-I am fascinated by the far north
-wacky doings...
5. New Hampshire
-I love the forests up there
6. Vermont
-I love the forests up there
7. Nevada
-Beautiful, great weather
-Laudable disdain for gossip
8. Minnesota
-Of the four regions of the country, the midwest has the best people
-lakes
9. Montana
-Glacier is the best national park
-Missoula is excellent
-nickname, "the treasure state" is nation's best nickname
-the sky really does appear exceptionally large there
10. Illinois
-Chicago is a great city
-rest of the state not so good
11. Hawaii
-rebounded nicely from a crime wave in the 80s
12. Idaho
-Beautiful scenery, potatoes, people who look down on Ron Paul supporters as too moderate and pro-government
13. Michigan
-Tiger Stadium was great. The Tigers also feature mlb's #2 cap.
14. Colorado
-mountains are nice
15. Pennsylvania
-I miss Macha
16. Wyoming
-Signs there say "many visitors gored by buffalo"
17. Iowa
-not as nice as Oakland
18. Missouri
-Ex gf of mine went to wustle; "wustle" is my favorite word to say out loud. wustle.
19. Wisconsin
-Lots of box factories, I would imagine
20. Maine
-overrated
21. Utah
-Have you seen that huge arch? It's fucking huge! Amazing!
22. New York
-Calm down, people. Christ.
23. Texas
-Austin is a top 5 city
-Houston is hellish buggy swamp where heroism is synonymous with bug-killing capability
-I heard a good joke about the Alamo once, but have since forgotten it
-I like Stevie Ray Vaughn
24. North Carolina
-Bull Durham is overrated
-Coach K's credit card ads are really obnoxious
25. Rhode Island
-Lincoln Chafee was a pretty comical figure
26. New Mexico
-Not enough clouds
-Will kill us all some day
27. Connecticut
-"Hartford Whalers" was a good name for a team
-Not much else good about this state
28. Indiana
-Hoosiers is the best sports movie
-"Hoosier" is a good thing to call oneself
-Speaking of "Hoosiers", I was pretty surprised to find out that Dennis Hopper is a republican
29. South Dakota
-Better than North Dakota 'cuz it has some hills
30. Virginia
-I watched a good documtary about O. North once
-Lots of history
31. Massachussetts
-ha ha, fuck you
32. Louisiana
-New Orleans is a good city
-nevertheless, a hellish swamp
33. North Dakota
-pretty bleak
-But I know some great people from there
34. Georgia
-Did you know Anderson Cooper's show is 2 hours long now? Dear God.
-Features world's largest electronic map
-"Captital Gang" was a fun show
35. Tennessee
-Robert Altman is overrated
-Plenty of good music from Nashville and Memphis, though
36. Arkansas
-Run tourism ads for some reason
37. Maryland
-Not a good state
38. South Carolina
-Charleston is pretty charming
39. New Jersey
-stfu
40. Ohio
-Drew Carey should be in jail
-WKRP is good, though
41. Delaware
-Ought to be "crossed" off the list of states
42. West Virginia
-Attractive landscape
-Jokes/stereoptypes are all true
43. Kansas
-Edges out Nebraska due to fun history
44. Nebraska
-ugly
-I don't like corn. It's too sweet.
-Should have maintained distinctive option-based offense
-fellow-traveling Fremontists
45. Kentucky
-There is a giant bat statue in Louisville which is pretty awesome
-Joe Saunders not as ugly as Lackey, but still ugly
46. Arizona
-The sun is an enemy that must be defeated
-Way too hot
-There is nothing good about Arizona
47. Florida
-Horrific weather
-Ridiculous culture
-Loveline was a great show
48. Oklahoma
-Seriously? The OKC "Thunder"? Come on.
-State heroes are people who stole shitty land from Native Americans
-Native Americans only there in the first place because they were forced into the shittiest part of the country
-According to an article I read once, there are 0 eligible bachelors in Oklahoma
49. Alabama
-Neil Young got it right
50. Mississippi
-I would feel pretty rebellious if I lived there

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He's a man! We wustled!

I can accept VT not being #1, but it’s simply wrong to put it below NH.

Oh, if people only knew how frugal we are. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Oct 25, 2008 3:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Nebraska isn't the only state with...

fellow-traveling Fremontists….
Lenin Statue in Fremont
Fremont, Washington

Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb

by FoolshGame22 on Oct 25, 2008 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

It's like they foresaw blogs

City also has a sculpture of The Fremont Troll:

I'm a street walkin cheetah with a heart full of napalm.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Oct 25, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

but that looks nothing like you!

j/k

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Oct 25, 2008 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's bigger than it looks...

Which is which? One is a troll from Fremont… and, the other is, well… a concrete sculpture:
Fremont Troll
Yes, that’s me… back in the day. Foolshgame22 and the Fremont Troll. Maybe, they did foresee blogs.

Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb

by FoolshGame22 on Oct 26, 2008 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is a pretty awesome statue of lenin. those soviets really knew how to make a good statue.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Oct 25, 2008 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

During the second Antarctic flight of the Boomerang experiment

the circumpolar wind failed and the balloon had to be dropped in the Russian sector; the only thing within 500 miles was a solitary statue of Lenin.

by green star oakland on Oct 26, 2008 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

The clear choice, then,

is the Phillies.

Also: WTF is “wustled?” Something the leaves do when Elmer Fudd swishes through ’em?

I'm a street walkin cheetah with a heart full of napalm.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Oct 25, 2008 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I was thinking washington university in st louis.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Oct 25, 2008 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got up to the WU StL part, but what's the "ed"?

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 25, 2008 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

re-read the OP:
“Ex gf of mine went to wustle”

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Oct 25, 2008 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe d = graduated from

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Oct 25, 2008 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went to WUSTL

I don’t know about the ed, I just called it wustl

by jeffreak on Oct 26, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oregon is ranked too low

Your statement concerning Los Angeles is erroneous.

I am curious to know in what respect Nevada disdains gossip.

Why do people always abbreviate “girlfriend” on the Internet?

I didn’t really count, but I think you have like 22 top 10 cities listed.

Did Lincoln Chafee die when I wasn’t looking?

I recently watched Heart of Darkness. Possibly Dennis Hopper’s cognitive functioning has improved since then, but he had a long ladder to climb.

Corn is in everything. You must have a hard time.

Adam Corrolla grates.

Some items have concluding punctuation, some do not. Odd.

The Long Goodbye is kind of an awesome movie.

Hank Paulson’s kid wants $85 million to lure major league soccer to the Portland. No, seriously. That’s what we get for $85 million. Soccer. And he wants to move the Beavers out of PGE Park. Double plus problematic.

by 74mk on Oct 25, 2008 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Top 10 cities:
1. Oakland
2. San Francisco
3. Seattle
4. Portland
5. San Diego
6. Austin
7. Chicago
8. Twin Cities
9. LA
10. Phiadelphia

I give corn a hard time. They don’t tell out-of-towners what you do in Vegas.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Oct 25, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whither Fremont?

Philadelphia? Really? Did something really bad happen to you in New York?

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 25, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

New York is obnoxious

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Oct 25, 2008 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is San Francisco not obnoxious?

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 25, 2008 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

LA sucks
philly is okay, but doesn’t belong on a top 10 cities list .

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Oct 25, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Top 10 cities in southeastern Pennsylvania over 200,000 population beginning with Ph?

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 25, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I currently live in LA

it sucks.

I used to live in SD. It too sucks

I am thinking of moving to Portland in a couple months, so this list makes me feel better.

Can't get enough of the Oakland A's or Golden State Warriors? Visit Oaktown Awesomer's and Golden Stat Hoops

by iamawesomer on Oct 27, 2008 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Portland is a fantastic city ...

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Oct 28, 2008 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

100% chance of rain at 8:00 PM in Philadelphia

says weather.com.

I'm a street walkin cheetah with a heart full of napalm.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Oct 25, 2008 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I always found it curious

That they play the Super Bowl in a balmy (or indoor) neutral site, despite featuring a sport that can be played in a monsoon or snowstorm, while the World Series takes its chances at the stadiums of its participants in late-October. I am not pushing for a change, and I get why it is this way; just think it’s interesting, that’s all.

Of course, California got the Series all to itself a few years back, and well, we all know how that worked out.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 25, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

which one are you refering to?

The Gimp Series?
The Earthquake Series?
The Angels-Getting-A-Fanbase Series?

facepalm.jpg

by Zonis on Oct 25, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

'89

From a Mother Nature standpoint.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 25, 2008 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Texas at 23 and Arizona at 46?!?!?

What did Arizona do to offend you? Austin is OK, but Texas ex-Austin is horrendous, certainly worthy of the bottom 10. Arizona has spring training, it has the Grand Canyon, it has some gorgeous mountains, it’s adjacent to California. You can’t possibly have spent much time in Texas or you would not have rated it 23. And oh god, Houston is the most despicable excuse for a city in America.

by Soaker on Oct 25, 2008 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah, mostly Austin

and I’m a biased because my brother went to UT. Year-round sun makes me shudder.

The A's colors are green and gold.

by mikeA on Oct 25, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

spring training >>>>>> austin

And the rest of Arizona is bland. The rest of Texas is crazy.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Oct 25, 2008 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flagstaff is really nice

Anywhere at elevation in AZ is pretty nice, actually.

Oh, if people only knew how frugal we are. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Oct 26, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of the Bay Area...

I watched a program on The History Channel today about the 1906 SF earthquake… it scared the holy shit out of me. Basically, the program said SF was going to collapse on itself WHEN the next BIG earthquake occurred because of the rush to rebuild after 1906. They only two buildings to be left standing will be the Asian Art Museum and City Hall.

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Oct 25, 2008 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

There is a saying about that quake...

Now where did all the people go
    when Frisco burned?
They all went to Oakland and
    never returned.

Next to last paragraph.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 25, 2008 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

that program is on The History Channel right now...

$1 billion to rebuild SF in 1906. $300 billion to rebuild it in 2006. That seems cheap compared to what they’re futilely spending now to avert financial collapse.

Foolsh, the most insane regular poster on AN since oaktoon left - salb

by FoolshGame22 on Oct 25, 2008 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

And my house

Seriously, our area is pretty much earthquake-proof.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Oct 26, 2008 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty impressed with mikeA having actually visited all 50 states recently enough

to make a ranking like this. Cities I’ve never been to or hardly been to but would like to visit:

1) New Orleans
2) San Antonio
3) Austin
4) Houston
5) Missoula
6) Boston
7) Pt Barrow
8) Charleston
9) Nashville
10) Jackson

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 25, 2008 5:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Best thing about Boston is that it's close to New York.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Oct 25, 2008 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly Sal shouldn't be my tour guide

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 25, 2008 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I beg to differ

Aside from the pro sports teams (and their fans) and the weather, Boston is a pretty awesome place.

Thanks for tomorrow 'cause I've had enough

by andeux on Oct 27, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's like 85% of living here.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Oct 28, 2008 5:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's like saying

he’s ugly, stupid, and obnoxious, but other than that he’s a swell guy

"The Athletics at Fremont" is soooooooo bad

by ArakSOT on Oct 28, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not at all

85% of “Best place to live on earth” is still pretty darn good.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Oct 28, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

you misunderstand

the teams, their fans, and the weather is the 85% of living here

"The Athletics at Fremont" is soooooooo bad

by ArakSOT on Oct 28, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gotcha...

I did misunderstand.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Oct 28, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Please, this is about Boston, not me.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Oct 28, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like you should move.

I thought it was a fine place to live. Of course, at the time the Red Sox routinely folded against the A’s in the playoffs, and the Pats might as well have not existed, so I could be underestimating just how insufferable the natives have become in the last few years.

Thanks for tomorrow 'cause I've had enough

by andeux on Oct 28, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

Still, I complain a lot but it’s not so bad in the warm months. Lack of proximity to family has a lot to do with it.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Oct 28, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate moving

and I exaggerate, I actually do like the neighborhood I live in

"The Athletics at Fremont" is soooooooo bad

by ArakSOT on Oct 28, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I would have to add "ANYWHERE in ALASKA" as one of the most beautiful places and places I would love to visit.

No, I haven’t been there but have had many friends come back from there with stars in their eyes.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Oct 26, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alaska

Alaska does have its ugly spots, too. Alaska is huge. Even if you say it’s only 1% ugly — I’d guess it’s more like 3% — the totality of ugly Alaska is still bigger than Connecticut. Then again, the totality of beautiful Alaska is bigger than Texas.

If contrast to immediate surroundings counts, the ugliest place I’ve ever seen is Chicken, Alaska, especially if you’re coming from the east. It’s hardly even a town, just a few shacks by the side of the road with old abandoned dredge mines nearby. In absolute terms it’s only moderately ugly, but it happens to be right at the western end of the “Top of the World” highway, which is in my opinion the most beautiful road in North America (better than coastal 101, better than Glacier’s Road to the Sun, better than the Icefields Parkway). After sixty miles of absolute heaven, you go around a bend and suddenly down below there’s Chicken, standing out like a pustulant zit on the face of an angel. It’s an unforgettable sight.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Oct 26, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Missoula

I drove through Missoula for the first time just last weekend. I thought it was pleasant, but not spectacular.

Western Montana reminded me a lot of California: more gold than green, lots of flattish rolling hills with the mountains somewhere in the distance. I liked northern Idaho better, where the mountains are right there in your face.

Glacier is awesome. The only place I’ve seen in the lower 48 where things are Alaska-sized.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Oct 26, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where's Canada on the list?

whats that you say, its not a state? well, it will be, once Obama/McCain annex it and sell off large quantities of maple syrup and canadian football teams in order to solve the economic crisis. In other news…

…Great post. But you forgot to include some A’s players on the list. For example, Kentucky gets ranked one spot higher due to Kentucky Joe being a native. Illinois, on the other hand, gets ranked down because it is home to the great DFA himself, Emil Brown. However, all things consider, that was 5 minutes of my life well spent.

'That's something we do...thirteen hits and not score'-Terrence Long

by DyeLongJustice on Oct 25, 2008 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Bill King was from Illinois. Also Rickey Henderson.

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 25, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ten Canadian cities I'd like to visit

1) Montreal
2) Quebec
3) Toronto
4) Halifax
5) Saint John
6) Charlottetown
7) St John’s
8) Banff
9) Whitehorse
10) Yellowknife

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 25, 2008 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Halifax is cool, Whitehhorse is ok....and I really want to visit Montreal as well

but Victoria would have to be on the list, because thats where Richie Harden is from…and this is an A’s blog afterall.

'That's something we do...thirteen hits and not score'-Terrence Long

by DyeLongJustice on Oct 26, 2008 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

QOTM

"Camelot sure fell apart, didn't it?"-Steve McCatty

by 5Aces on Oct 27, 2008 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ten Canadien cities I've heard of...

1) Montreal
2) Toronto
3) Vancouver
4) Edmonton
5) Halifax, or is that Alaska?
6)

Well that about sums it up. I only got Edmonton cause I thought hockey. Sadly, that’s the only hockeytown I could come up with. Checking WaddellCanseco’s post it seems, yes, Halifax is in Canada. I thought Quebec was a province, though.

99 MPH with as much control as a deflating balloon - CurveballKing on H-Rod

by Scottbass on Oct 26, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

No love for Winnipeg, guys?

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Oct 26, 2008 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. Nor Edmonton nor Saskatoon. Nor Regina neither. Ditto Ottawa.

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about Moose Factory, Ontario?

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Oct 27, 2008 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Moosejaw, Medicine Hat

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Oct 27, 2008 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

thunder bay

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Oct 27, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

LA 1 of the top 10 cities?

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Oct 25, 2008 7:06 PM PDT reply actions  

+1

It’s a “marine layer”… I swear…

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Oct 25, 2008 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maine not in top 10...?

shame on you. haha. come up here and tell me we’re overrated. top cities in the US are SF and NY then a long drop to #3.

by MaineAthletic on Oct 25, 2008 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

False

The city, maybe. The weather disqualifies it.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Oct 25, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not if you really hate all other cities

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 25, 2008 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, the weather is the disadvantage

but most other cities people mention have similar weather problems, or are crap cities like LA.

by ohmangoAs on Oct 26, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cities with better weather than Chicago:

Every single one except Anchorage and Minneapolis.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Oct 26, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anchorage and Chicago have similar weather.

Boston weather isn’t that different from Chicago either.

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Typically

on any given day in December or January, Chicago is colder than Anchorage. However, winter lasts much longer in Anchorage. Roughly late October through early April.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Oct 27, 2008 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno

Chicago is COLD. But it is dry (not much snow, partly because it’s too cold to snow). This is a matter of opinion, but I think WET cold (Snow) is much, much worse than dry cold. By that measure, Chicago> Boston, NY etc.

by ohmangoAs on Oct 26, 2008 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was in Chicago this March for spring break.

First it rained, then it was sunny, and then it snowed. Like a serious blizzard. Some “spring” break that was…

by whiteshoes40 on Oct 26, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chicago is where you leave from for spring break

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know where you get "not much snow"

Speaking as one who once spent 2 hours driving from Hyde Park to Lincoln Park because Lakeshore was covered in so much snow the plows couldn’t keep up.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Oct 27, 2008 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I spent only one year in Chicago

so SSS (haha)

but there were only 3 major storms, and the roads were clear the exact morning after.

Wikipedia says Chicago averages 38 inches of snow a winter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Chicago

Boston averages 41, so I guess my impressions aren’t that significant.

by ohmangoAs on Oct 27, 2008 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Top 10 Chinese-ish Cities

1) Hong Kong
2) Shanghai
3) Singapore
4) Taipei
5) Penang
6) Guangzhou
7) Beijing
8) Macau
9) Shenzhen
10) Dalian

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 25, 2008 11:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Probably. I haven't been there since about 2000.

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Top 5 dinosaurs

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Oct 26, 2008 6:56 AM PDT reply actions  

if stegosaurus ain't on your list...then it ain't a list

'That's something we do...thirteen hits and not score'-Terrence Long

by DyeLongJustice on Oct 26, 2008 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

fail

pterosaurs and Icthyosaurs are not dinosaurs

"The Athletics at Fremont" is soooooooo bad

by ArakSOT on Oct 27, 2008 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dinosaur highbrowing = fail too

Just fyi

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Oct 27, 2008 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

oof. Epic Fail.

You’re supposed to be laying out those texts, not reading them.

Okay, take out the pterosaur and add the ankylosaur and replace them with these two:

“I’m the baby, gotta love me!”

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Oct 27, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not the mama!

Thanks for tomorrow 'cause I've had enough

by andeux on Oct 27, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also applies to my Top 5 Greatest Shows

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Oct 27, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops, I meatn take out the pterosaur and icthyosaur, keep the ankylosaur.

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Oct 27, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Morgan being phased out at ESPN?

Bob Raissman reports in the N.Y. Daily News that the Miller/Morgan Sunday night team may be broken up, with Morgan (and possibly Miller too) moved to a less prominent midweek position.

What’s coming to light is how unpopular Morgan has become with many of his ESPN colleagues, who are less than thrilled with the way he prepares for a telecast. Some of them also don’t respond well to what they call Morgan’s haughty attitude, which he has displayed during some of his more outspoken performances in internal ESPN meetings.

What, Joe’s not the greatest co-worker in the world? Who’da thunk that?

If Morgan goes down, I’m setting my sights on McCarver’s head next.

by Soaker on Oct 26, 2008 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Is he the one with the cool voice? or is that the Miller guy?

Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40

by #14fan on Oct 26, 2008 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Voice

If you’re referring to the smooth, rich, mesmerizing bass-baritone, that’s Gary Thorne. (One of the few sports voices I love more than Korach’s.)

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Oct 26, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

sounds like the one I'm talking about!!

he’s staying, right?

Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40

by #14fan on Oct 26, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Darned if I know

I have a big man-crush on Gary Thorne, but he’s not very popular here on AN on account of a history of messing up A’s players’ names. I’m pretty sure he’s the one who first called Daric Barton “Dale”. Maybe “Hanrahan”, too.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Oct 26, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

those did stick though. and Jennifer appears to like the name Dale.

whatever. I hope he doesn’t leave!

Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40

by #14fan on Oct 26, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I won't miss Joe Morgan, of course,

but Jon Miller is quite good, from what I recall (haven’t heard him for a while). He just needs a better partner.

by whiteshoes40 on Oct 26, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

They'd do better sticking Mike Krukow in there...

The problem with Morgan is only tangentially that he’s a sabermetrically ignorant buffoon. (That’s true of many announcers, including Krukow, McCarver, and others.) The main problem is that he simply doesn’t know anything about the teams at all, because he never actually watches baseball except when he’s commentating on it.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Oct 26, 2008 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure that commentating is a word, but it seems to describe Joe's job pretty well.

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

As FMJ likes to always point out in his chats...

“What do you think about Evan Longoria?”
“Well, I haven’t actually seen him play, but if he does well, the team he plays for will do well.”

facepalm.jpg

by Zonis on Oct 26, 2008 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

A commenter comments

A commentator commentates.

N’est ce pas?

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Oct 27, 2008 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently so

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 27, 2008 2:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wustle


“Whom would you have me welease?”


“Welease Wustle!”

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Oct 26, 2008 2:00 PM PDT reply actions  

MONTY PYTHON!!!!!!!

YAY!!!! I LOVE Monty Python!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but I’m so glad Palin doesn’t actually talk like that, or I wouldn’t be able to watch the flying circus as much as I do now.

Welease Bwian!!!

Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40

by #14fan on Oct 26, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's true.

Election coverage is hard enough to watch as it is.

"God doesn't pay attention to your cute little hypotheticals." -- Jeff from LL

by oblique on Oct 26, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you find something comical... when I say the name... Bigus... Dickus?

Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.

by Joey C. on Oct 26, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

{executed for laughing}

Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40

by #14fan on Oct 26, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has a wife, you know....

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Oct 27, 2008 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Having lived in both Nevada and Idaho...

… I insist that they must be swapped in the rankings. Nevada sounds like a great idea until you realize that everything there looks like Ely.

Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.

by Joey C. on Oct 26, 2008 4:31 PM PDT reply actions  

"Nevada sounds like a great idea until you realize that everything there looks like Ely."

What???

Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40

by #14fan on Oct 26, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

He didn't say Ellis

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know that. I still have a right to be confused!!!!

Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40

by #14fan on Oct 26, 2008 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go to Ely, Nevada and all your questions will be answered

Or don’t and just send me a thank you card instead.

Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.

by Joey C. on Oct 26, 2008 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been there already. Where was your post in 1983?

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gimme a break, I was gestating

Ryan Sweeney: I probably irrationally embraced him before you did.

by Joey C. on Oct 27, 2008 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

California way way too high

Too crowded, too expensive, too dirty, relatively unfriendly and aloof populace, poor support for a great team like the A’s…the coast and the mountains keep California from sucking outright, but after spending so much time out of state since I was a youngster, California is far from paradise.

by AgitationStation on Oct 26, 2008 5:36 PM PDT reply actions  

CA is great because wherever you live in the state

paradise is probably only a 3-4 hour car ride away in one direction or the other.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Oct 26, 2008 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or...

this?

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Oct 26, 2008 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Using that logic Rhode Island is the best because you can drive 3-4 hrs in any direction

and be out of Rhode Island

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 26, 2008 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or New York City

Because you can drive 3-4 hours in any direction and not have left manhattan.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Oct 27, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

California has the greatest climate in the world.

No matter what kind of person you are, you can find your type of weather in California. Outside of arctic cold of course…

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Oct 26, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are there swamps and tropical rain forests?

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Oct 27, 2008 2:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Got me

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Oct 27, 2008 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Swamps yes

Tropical rain forests no, but some really wonderful temperate rain forests. Just go a few miles up Hwy 197 east of Crescent City, one of my favorite places in the state.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Oct 28, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Northern California,

which, in spite of what everyone says, does NOT include the Bay Area. Northern California starts somewhere around Redding. (Unless you’re on the coast, in which case it starts after Mendocino.)

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Oct 27, 2008 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Erm, I'm going to have to disagree with you on that, Magellan :)

The geographic center of California is the city of North Fork

The Bay Area is north of that.

:D

by mikev on Oct 27, 2008 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Given that N-S wise ...

it lines up pretty closely to San Jose … wouldn’t that mean, in fact, that the Bay Area is in the center of the state?

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Oct 27, 2008 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd take it as meaning that the Bay Area almost crosses the line

But I guess that depends on whether you consider SJ to actually be Bay Area right now.

I mean, pretty soon it will be, and SF/Oakland/SJ will all be one big megalopolis, so it’s kinda semantics.

by mikev on Oct 27, 2008 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, otherwise you'd be saying that San Jose is in Southern California and Fremont is in Northern California ...

that concerns Lew Wolfe greatly …

But California is a big place. It doesn’t make sense to divide it into only two regions — particularly, as is generally done, dividing it into two regions, one that is more than double the size of the other. It’s far more rational and relevant to think of it as:
Southern California (10 southern counties, with SLO, Kern and San Bernardino forming the northern border)
Northern California (19 northern counties, with Mendo, Lake, Colusa, Sutter, Placer forming the southern border0
Central California (29 remaining counties)

Each region is approximately the same size and is divided based on not entirely arbitrary lines.

Though it would be even more rational to add El Dorado, Amador, Calaveras, Alpine, Tuolumne, Mariposa and Mono to “Northern California” and then split “Central California” into Coastal (9 county Bay Area plus San Benito, Santa Cruz and Monterey) and Inland (the remaining counties).

Of course, it would make even more sense to break it down even further, but there is not rational reason to say that San Francisco is in the same region of California as Redding.

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Oct 27, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

What Devo said. Bay Area is middle California. Southern California is south of it, Northern California is north of it.

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Oct 28, 2008 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Geographic center of Texas is Brady

San Antonio is east of that. Would you say San Antonio is in East Texas??

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Oct 28, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Common Sense division.

Bay Area is NorCal. LA is SoCal. North of Napa/Sonoma is West Virginia.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Oct 28, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you ask some of the old-timer locals

it’s the State of Jefferson!

"Dispatch knuckleheadedness with Bond-like aplomb." –74mk

by iglew on Oct 28, 2008 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems more sensible to draw a line based on the population center of the state

By that standard everything north of, roughly, San Luis Obispo is Northern California.

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Oct 29, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or, since what we're talking about is cultural

We should draw a fuzzy line based upon where people have the attitudes/experiences we mean when we say NorCal, SoCal, etc.

"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson

by nevermoor on Oct 29, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

That line would actually be somewhere in LA County ... I'd guess through the San Fernando Valley ...

more than 55% of the state’s population is in the southern six counties. (And it’s probably more than that given the under counting of latinos, who are predominantly in those six counties.)

or if we were doing it for New York, it would be right around 64th Street …

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Oct 29, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

It snowed in Cedar Rapids last night.

It was cold in my tent.

But he came back. And there was much rejoicing.

by Jennifer on Oct 27, 2008 8:28 AM PDT reply actions  

couldn't afford the rent, eh?

Children, until we have taught them better, will be perfectly happy with a seasonal round of games in which conkers succeeds hopscotch.

by salb918 on Oct 27, 2008 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you reciting a song?

That should be words to a song.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 27, 2008 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

? Swooney's in Cedar Rapids? I thought you were camping out in front of his place!

You mean he wouldn’t even let you in when it was SNOWING?? Harsh.

Awww… Unicorn's optimistic. And a cheeseball. That’s cute. ~Whiteshoes40

by #14fan on Oct 29, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

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