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Joe Blanton Trade Ideas (and Rumors)

So as Nico has hinted at in an earlier post about Blanton and why it appears he has not held the value in the market as BB considers him to have.  But what should his value be in the market?  And remove the notion that you do not want him to be traded and consider what would parameters would make a successful trade for both sides.  What I am going to discuss starts with the premise that the A's should get a highly-rated SS in the deal.

So, in that regard here are the only teams rumored to be interested in Blanton (as far as I have seen):

Dodgers
Mets
Mariners

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So as Nico has hinted at in an earlier post about Blanton and why it appears he has not held the value in the market as BB considers him to have.  But what should his value be in the market?  And remove the notion that you do not want him to be traded and consider what would parameters would make a successful trade for both sides.  What I am going to discuss starts with the premise that the A's should get a highly-rated SS in the deal.

So, in that regard here are the only teams rumored to be interested in Blanton (as far as I have seen):

Dodgers
Mets
Mariners

Conventional trade theory says that you don't trade inside the division... I don't think that has to be followed, but the deal would have to include Carlos Triunfel and I would think that the only other high prospect pitcher who is ~2 years away is Chris Tillman and if the Mariners would accept that deal (which I doubt they would), then that would be acceptable for the A's and I would imagine the A's would want three prospects, but with those two you wouldn't get anyone of else, but to get a career minor leaguer... something that shouldn't go understated, but nonetheless nothing most fans care about.

So, there was the earlier rumor of Carlos Gomez, Aaron Heilman, and Kevin Mulvey for Blanton from the Mets, but quite honestly imo, that is not a great deal for the A's now that they have a lot of OF in tow now and Gomez would be the biggest piece in that deal.  The Mets may want to be involved in a deal for Blanton, but they just don't have the pieces that make sense for both sides.  Other than Gomez and Fernando Martinez, they largely only have pitching prospects.  It is not a good fit for the A's.

It has been said that the Dodgers and Blanton are not a good fit anymore because they have the following in their SP rotation at the moment:

Penny, Lowe, Billingsley, Schmidt, Kuroda, and Loaiza

(and that doesn't include Kuo who, if healthy, could still crack that rotation if someone else is unhealthy).

I'm not sure that the Dodgers would want to trade Hu with Furcal only under contract through 2008.  That seems to me that Hu won't be available as Hu will be much cheaper and maybe not that much worse, if at all than Furcal.

Any deal for Hu should include a pitcher and another IF who could be available and with Blake Dewitt that gets that although with Travis Denker being traded as the PTBNL in the Giants-Sweeney deal, they don't have another 2B within 2 years of the majors in their pipeline, but maybe Colletti doesn't think about that...  And James McDonald is like the Dodgers 3rd or 4th (or maybe 5th by some) best rated P prospect, yet still had phenomenal numbers last year and could be ready by 2009 as well.

As far as other SS to consider that you have not mentioned and I would because I would want to get a potential SS and 2B and another P in a deal for Blanton, while considering a team who could use a SP and wants to contend... and imo, the Rockies fit that mold:

Chris Nelson from the Rox would be a player that the BB should consider.  There are two reasons why he should be available:  Troy Tulowitzki and Hector Gomez (the other Rox SS prospect).  Nelson was in High A last year and flashed power potential and good speed:

289/356/503
19 HR, 42 2B, 7 3B, 27 SB (84% SB%)

BB could also consider in a deal for him (in order of highest value):  Greg Reynolds (SP in AA), Ian Stewart (3B in AAA), Brandon Hynick (SP in High A), Daniel Mayora (2B in Low A), Eric Young, Jr (2B in High A), and Bruce Billings (SP in SS).

I say Stewart because the Rox are trying him out at 2B this off-season and he obviously can play 3B.  I say Reynolds even though he was injured this year because he is highly rated.  I consider Hynick even though he is more of a control pitcher because he had really good High A California League numbers and seems to project nicely in Oakland.  Then, I just threw in some 2B from their system and a short-season prospect who was awesome in SS and only a 30th rd pick.

I personally would try to get Nelson, Hynick and Stewart if Stewart looks like he can play 2B adequately and if he cannot, then I would try to get Nelson, Hynick, Young Jr., and another low-level prospect like Billings, if not he.

Out of all of these deals, I would think that a trade with the Rockies makes the most sense for both teams, followed by the Mariners, Mets, and Dodgers.

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DeJesus

When the deal with the Dodgers broke down last year, it wasn't Hu the A's wanted from the Dodgers, it was DeJesus.  So I think he would be the SS prospect the A's would want in the unlikely deal there was a Dodgers trade.

by Threepwood XX on Jan 6, 2008 2:36 PM PST reply actions  

Ivan DeJesus

Huh, I didn't know that was the SS of whom they were targeting from the Dodgers.  He hits for even less power than Hu and isn't as good as a defender (not that that is a huge minus considering Hu may be the best IF defender in the minors, although I have never seen him play in person, so I can't say...).  DeJesus does have a good K and B rate for his age, but his ISO is weak which means that his OPS is weak.

Anyway, DeJesus is no where near the prospect that Hu is and if that is what the market is for Blanton, then that is disappointing.

And speaking to the Rockies front office below:  I don't think much of the Rockies front office, so who knows what they think.  But Morales is still young and is still very erratic with his electric stuff and that should be a huge concern for them.  Ubaldo got lit up in the minors before he looked like a major leaguer.  That should still be a concern for them as well.  And with the D-Backs trade for Haren, the Dodgers deep rotation, and the Padres who will still be competitive, then the Rox F.O. should want to be proactive to stay ahead of the competition.

by bjk15 on Jan 6, 2008 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Francis, Cook, Jimenez, Morales

Do the Rockies think they need to trade for a starter on top of that?

by WaddellCanseco on Jan 6, 2008 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

I read that

Atlanta and the Phillies have also shown interest and that the Dodgers have stopped inquiring about him since they signed Kuroda.

by IM4Oakgal on Jan 6, 2008 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

Atlanta

is the most likely destination for Blanton in my opinion.  They have middle infield prospects and they probably need an innings-eater as badly as anyone else.

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jan 6, 2008 4:10 PM PST reply actions  

Atlanta trade

I'm scared of trading with Atlanta after the Hudson deal.

by Threepwood XX on Jan 6, 2008 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I was afraid before the Hudson deal

You never ever trade pitchers with Atlanta. They screw you every time.

by Bambi on Jan 6, 2008 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, remember

Schuerholz isn't the GM there anymore. The new guy may well not be as good.

The thing that worries me about Atlanta is that their farm system was already raided (wait, that's not nearly strong enough-- pillaged) by Texas for Teixeira. I like Brent Lillibridge, but other than that, there's not a lot there.

cardinalprecepts.blogspot.com

by PaulThomas on Jan 6, 2008 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Their scouts still are, though

Schuerholz has always said in interviews that he was only involved in the negotiation end of trades, and relied on the opinions of his scouts and assistants to decide what players to give up/ask for.  Not sure that Schuerholz's promotion really changes things, assuming that Frank Wren relies on the same opinions that Schuerholz relied upon.  Also, Schuerholz is still with Atlanta, and he probably is still involved in decision-making at some level.  Atlanta will always be tough to beat in a trade as long as they maintain their excellent scouting.  

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Jan 6, 2008 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Still

By any stretch of the imagination, Schuerholz was an uncommonly shrewd negotiator. Even if the players they want are the same, the players they get may not be.

cardinalprecepts.blogspot.com

by PaulThomas on Jan 6, 2008 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Schuerholz

was pretty much the epitome of what a modern GM should be, no doubt.

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Jan 7, 2008 7:19 AM PST up reply actions  

who did the a's try to get for hudson

that the braves refused to give up?

the only names i remember are kyle davies and marcus giles.  
now even juan cruz is more in demand than marcus giles, and i don't know who has disappointed more so far, dan meyer or kyle davies.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 6, 2008 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?

I would have thought his hacktacular ways would have disqualified him...

cardinalprecepts.blogspot.com

by PaulThomas on Jan 7, 2008 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

i don't remember francoeur

where did you hear that?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 7, 2008 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

My fantasy trade with Atlanta..

would include (in a Blanton trade) a swap of Crosby for Yunel Escobar.

by IM4Oakgal on Jan 6, 2008 5:15 PM PST reply actions  

Mariners

They don't want to give up Jones, so how about Clement and Triunfel? Wlad?

We could use a SS, even if he's only 17 in A-ball.

by MrIncognito on Jan 10, 2008 7:58 PM PST reply actions  

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