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DLD 013108: Mean Girls and Englishmen (go out in the midday sun)

With the news that Andy Pettitte may tell Congress he discussed HGH with Roger Clemens and trainer Brian McNamee, Deadspin provides the definitive cultural comparable to the Clemens-Pettitte saga of frenemies:  the modern classic film "Mean Girls".  

Star-divide

In case you missed this fine film, put it on the top of your Netflix queue NOW!  Rotten Tomatoes describes it thusly:

Here, the Plastics are the most popular girls in school. They wrote the rule book on Girl World, like always wearing pink on Tuesdays. And they're mean. So when pretty new girl Cady (Lindsay Lohan) arrives in school, the first thing they do is make fun of her. Then they try to win her over. Cady is torn between social cliques. She befriends the punky rebels Janis (Lizzy Caplan) and Damian (Daniel Franzese). But the guy Cady wants to date is friends with the Plastics... Just trying to fit in, Cady jumps through hoops for the Plastics and becomes a mean girl in the process.



Watch as Andy moves smoothly between the cool kids and the geeks, hatching clever and hilarious plots, wanting so much to be like Roger that he must destroy him, until, tragically, Andy becomes the thing he hates!  And so testifies to a grandstanding Congress.


In other news, supporters of the Liverpool football club in the English Premier League have hatched a plan to overthrow their tyrannical ownership and take control themselves!  I know this will shock you:  they despise Tom Hicks.

US tycoons George Gillett and Tom Hicks recently finalised a £350m refinancing of the club which they bought in 2007.  But the Share Liverpool FC Group is to reveal plans for a buy-out of the club by 100,000 Reds fans around the world.

The model proposed will be a Barcelona style, "member-share" scheme, aimed at raising £500m to purchase the club from its US owners and build a new stadium....

"Thousands of Liverpool fans have already demonstrated their dissatisfaction with the current state of affairs," said (football business lecturer and Liverpool fan Rogan) Taylor.

"Large amounts of debt often devolves onto clubs newly purchased, but the fans know that in the end, it will be they themselves who will have to pay it off through increased ticket prices and other schemes.  In such a case, why not simply buy the club yourselves?"

And BTW:  The best TV critic in the world, Tim Goodman of the Chron, says the first two episodes of the new season of Lost are eff’in awesome.  I may have to watch it one of these days.

So there’s the link jump-off point.  Add some of your own...don’t be a Coward.

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In high school drama class, I used to love

performing scenes from Noel Coward plays.  Fumed Oak was my favorite, and we had a very funny running visual size-mismatch gag: my stage wife was pushing 250 pounds, me barely 100.

Noel Coward was also central to one of my most brilliant high school schemes.  I cleverly engineered my way into performing a scene from Private Lives with a girl I had a crush on, thinking that time spent working together on the project would naturally lead to a date.  How this scheme failed, I have no idea.  Like Wile E Coyote, my plans always looked so good on paper.

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on Jan 31, 2008 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

i was chatting with my british cousin

and he didn't know who noel coward was.  how is that possible...

btw folks the bay area have three days left to check out mamet's speed-the-plow.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 31, 2008 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I like the 1980's computerized background...

in that Obama ad recently found on AN.  Reminds me of Max Headroom.

I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.

by franks a lot on Jan 31, 2008 9:56 AM PST reply actions  

heh

I commented on that in the BA top 10 prospects diary.  This was probably a better place to put it, but FSU was still assembling his Mean Girls images.  Royalties?

by Cutthemullet on Jan 31, 2008 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

In case you missed it yesterday

Monkeyball posted this link to a diary on the SBN site McCovey Chronicles, which says the Obama ad is not from the campaign itself, but from an independent expenditure committee which the Obama campaign does not endorse.  May explain the ad layout, the finest a Commodore 64 can produce.

There is an A in Whimsy.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jan 31, 2008 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

CGV.

You mentioned the bad word. Strike one!

Notes From The Nat has a new home: http://www.natnotes.com - Stop by and mock me for getting my domain stolen.

by Ozzz on Jan 31, 2008 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

AN has ads?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 31, 2008 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Selling blow.

And Milfweed.

Notes From The Nat has a new home: http://www.natnotes.com - Stop by and mock me for getting my domain stolen.

by Ozzz on Jan 31, 2008 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Milfweed.

Nice.

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on Jan 31, 2008 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

When's the Season 3 DVD come out?

I want to see how she handles the death of agent/boyfriend what's his face.

There is an A in Whimsy.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jan 31, 2008 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Dunno.

AND DON'T NOBODY TELL ME HOW THE MEXICAN STANDOFF CLIFFHANGER ENDS!

stat-addled alien overlord

by salb918 on Jan 31, 2008 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

as opposed to the outcomes of E Chavez' surgeries

THE NOT-MEXICAN-ENOUGH STANDOFF CLIFFHANGER

The best that can be said about this is that it's imaginative. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jan 31, 2008 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Chavez gets shot in the
non-heart.
Notes From The Nat has a new home: http://www.natnotes.com - Stop by and mock me for getting my domain stolen.

by Ozzz on Feb 1, 2008 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Possible Erik Bedard trade to Seattle...

is this VERGE-worthy?

I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.

by franks a lot on Jan 31, 2008 10:05 AM PST reply actions  

Isn't Mean Girls

basically a lesser version of Heathers?

As for Lost, FSU, it's an alternately brilliant and frustrating show (generally with more of the former than the latter), but I'm not sure how much you could get out of it if you try to jump in in the middle. The main plot itself is mysterious and somewhat complicated, and much of the characters' motivations is explained only by long flashbacks (and now flashforwards) to other parts of their lives. On the other hand, there's a lot to be said for watching Evangeline Lilly run around in skimpy clothing, even if you don't know what the hells going on.

"Tomorrow it may rain." - Leo Durocher

by andeux on Jan 31, 2008 10:21 AM PST reply actions  

So I was channel flicking last night

and came upon an episode of Lost that included Pop-Up Video-styled backstory info on the bottom of the screen.

"Jack and [chick name] were previously romantically involved... she broke her back and he said he'd definitely fix it... which he did.... Then they hooked up... but he was too involved in his work... so they split."

All this while an entirely different scene is going on.

Weirdest. Thing. Ever.

Notes From The Nat has a new home: http://www.natnotes.com - Stop by and mock me for getting my domain stolen.

by Ozzz on Jan 31, 2008 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully, now that they have a defined end point

(48 more episodes), the "frustrating" issue will be over with.  I imagine it's hard to tell a story coherently when you have no idea how long you'll be telling it...

"There's no real reason why a flight in which one flies naked should be more expensive than any other."

by Poppy on Jan 31, 2008 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I got the feeling that after the show became a huge hit in Season 1, the writers had a bit of an "Oh shit, now what do we do" moment (as discussed here a couple of years ago). As much as I like the show, even 48 more episodes seems like a bit too much to me, but at least they can plan ahead and space out the filler a little bit better. Also, they should have a better idea of what works and what doesn't at this point.

"Tomorrow it may rain." - Leo Durocher

by andeux on Jan 31, 2008 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

So Laura Palmer won't show up on the island?
"There's no real reason why a flight in which one flies naked should be more expensive than any other."

by Poppy on Jan 31, 2008 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

no one can wake up next to Suzanne Pleshette
The best that can be said about this is that it's imaginative. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jan 31, 2008 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

The next hatch found will contain Patrick Duffy.
"There's no real reason why a flight in which one flies naked should be more expensive than any other."

by Poppy on Jan 31, 2008 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

is that an intentional twofer?

Dallas it-was-all-a-dream and The Man From Atlantis!

The best that can be said about this is that it's imaginative. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jan 31, 2008 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL... not intentional

I totally forgot The Man From Atlantis...

"There's no real reason why a flight in which one flies naked should be more expensive than any other."

by Poppy on Jan 31, 2008 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

if JJ has the balls to do that ...

... it would totally work: penultimate ep, they find PD in a hatch. He has, of course, webbed fingers. PD starts to explain whole sunken-continent/secret-society/transplant-Pacific-for-Atlantic/mystical-shit mumbo jumbo, is on verge of making sense of everything that's happened -- when the ep ends with  cliffhanger leading in to final ep.

Final ep: another of those weird, frustrating, recapitulate-what-we-saw-last-week, but-from-2-different-angles, so-as-to-show-the-new-character-isn't-what-we-thought-he-was-upon-first-reveal taking up the first 2/3 of the runtime, which leads up to the same point where the penultimate ep's cliffhanger left off -- break for commercial -- come back to Jack, age 7 or 8, waking up from having fallen asleep in front of the TV in 1978. PD on the tube. Parents come home from grocery shopping. Quotidian interaction btw Young Jack and parents. Mom putting groceries away. Canned goods in hand. She opens the kitchen cabinet to put the cans away -- and THE ENTIRE CABINET IS FULL OF DHARMA-LABELED FOOD. Mom turns back to Jack, half-smiles, opens her mouth to speak -- CUT TO BLACK.

The best that can be said about this is that it's imaginative. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jan 31, 2008 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude.

You're blowing my mind.

"There's no real reason why a flight in which one flies naked should be more expensive than any other."

by Poppy on Jan 31, 2008 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Mean Girls lacks murders and Christian Slater

and gains a bit more nuance, with a protaganist who's a bit less two dimensional than Winona.  No anguished Dead Gay Son epiphanys, though.

I'll take up Lost on DVD I think, wouldn't try to pick it up now.

There is an A in Whimsy.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jan 31, 2008 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Eskimo
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jan 31, 2008 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Happy Birthday, Jackie Robinson!

My favorite alumni of my current school, UCLA, and a great basketball player, too.

"wither fair monkeyball?" ~fsu

by LAXile on Jan 31, 2008 10:22 AM PST reply actions  

racism

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 31, 2008 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

racism

http://www.nationalpost.com/most_pop...

The best that can be said about this is that it's imaginative. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jan 31, 2008 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

wow that is creepy

also it makes it harder to discriminate against real canadians.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 31, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

on the Internet, no one knows you're Canadian

(And as for the link ... "real" Canadians apparently know nothing about mid-19th-C American history.)

The best that can be said about this is that it's imaginative. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jan 31, 2008 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought "Canadian" was code for "Swede"
"There's no real reason why a flight in which one flies naked should be more expensive than any other."

by Poppy on Jan 31, 2008 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

i miss swede...
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 31, 2008 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I still won't know what to think about the trades

until he weighs in.

It starts with rule No. 1 from coach Don Nelson: Shoot the ball.

by mikeA on Jan 31, 2008 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Who?

I'm just trying to be bigoted against Swedes.

"There's no real reason why a flight in which one flies naked should be more expensive than any other."

by Poppy on Jan 31, 2008 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

How in the hell, are the Marlins closer to being

contenders than the A's, and the Rangers are always rebuilding the pitching staff.

Spencer (Orange County): What team comes out of obscurity first: Rangers, A's, Giants, Marlins?

Keith Law: (1:22 PM ET ) The Marlins and Rangers are much further ahead of the Bay Area teams in their rebuilding processes.

Why do I continue to read Keith????/

by theblackpearl on Jan 31, 2008 10:31 AM PST reply actions  

correct answer is

ask me this question in 2009.  Throw a dart at this point.  "Much further?"  C'mon.

by Cutthemullet on Jan 31, 2008 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know why

The Marlins farm system now sucks. Even with Maybin added to it. Their pitching is bad, and there's not much backing it up. And, obviously, they refuse to spend any money.

Law is just not an objective source when it comes to the A's. I would say he has phallic envy of Michael Lewis, but after that piece he wrote on sterilization...

cardinalprecepts.blogspot.com

by PaulThomas on Jan 31, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Because...

the Marlins just signed Luis Gonzalez.  That will take any team out of the "rebuilding" mode and into championship contention.

I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.

by franks a lot on Jan 31, 2008 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

There goes a draft pick.
"He says lots of stupid things on the television set. He seems lazy and foolish to me." -Michael Lewis, on Joe Morgan

by BWH on Jan 31, 2008 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

You don't understand math

97-->03-->09

It starts with rule No. 1 from coach Don Nelson: Shoot the ball.

by mikeA on Jan 31, 2008 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

hah

In that case, what's the Rangers' math?

by Cutthemullet on Jan 31, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I has a calendar.

It has math.

"BTW, this is ridiculous..." -- devo

by oblique on Jan 31, 2008 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

So, if the Rangers are further ahead of the A's

we could see record setting futility this year guys.

Adam J. Morris (Houston): Over/under on Rangers wins this year?

Keith Law: (1:47 PM ET ) Man, I haven't even begun to think about that stuff. 70? That might be a bit low, but it's not as if the rotation is looking better.

by theblackpearl on Jan 31, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Guy's not even consistent

That, or yeah, he's the Ray Ratto of 2008

by Cutthemullet on Jan 31, 2008 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Not necessarily inconsis

The first question was who would be a winning team first, not who would be better in 2008.  Law could believe that the A's will win more games than the A's in 2008, but will take longer to complete their rebuild and become a winning team again.

 

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Jan 31, 2008 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel like a camper who's been robbed

Where'd my tent go

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Jan 31, 2008 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

< snerk >

Try answering some of your spam -- that should solve your problem.

The best that can be said about this is that it's imaginative. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jan 31, 2008 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL
"There's no real reason why a flight in which one flies naked should be more expensive than any other."

by Poppy on Jan 31, 2008 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Does anyone have ESPN Insider. Law
said his top 100 is out.  I wonder where the A's rank on his list.

by theblackpearl on Jan 31, 2008 11:04 AM PST reply actions  

101st
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 31, 2008 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Well that would probably be accurate

Dave (Mass): After seeing your list and hearing all the hype of the Oakland A's trades of prospects, I would of expected more than what you had of A's?

Keith Law: (2:05 PM ET ) They went for quantity over quality in those deals, which they needed to do with a fairly barren farm system.

Everyone else said the A's received some quality with that quantity

by theblackpearl on Jan 31, 2008 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Here you go

Barton (38), CarGo (42), de los Santos (57), Cahill (94).  No Anderson, which is really odd, and no GioGon either which is odd as well.  Overall, Law's list is very curious for not only A's prospects, but many other placements, although I do agree with him that Longoria is the #1 prospect over Jay Bruce.  

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Jan 31, 2008 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Having rid ourselves of E-Lo, can we now ..

... nickname the new kid GioGo-Lo?

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jan 31, 2008 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

if we sign a guy named ...

... Howard Lopez Canada Yusmeiro Gonzalez, can we nickname him ...

The best that can be said about this is that it's imaginative. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jan 31, 2008 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

We were on the verge of signing him,

but negotiations are in limbo.

"There's no real reason why a flight in which one flies naked should be more expensive than any other."

by Poppy on Jan 31, 2008 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

< sorenstam jeter >

(And, yes, that's Swedish.)

The best that can be said about this is that it's imaginative. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jan 31, 2008 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

...whilst we hawked a Lugo.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jan 31, 2008 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Well according to Law...

I ain't got nobody...

"BTW, this is ridiculous..." -- devo

by oblique on Jan 31, 2008 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Well he thinks a 22 y/o shouldn't repeat AA

Bobby (Oakland, CA): Why isn't Gio G. in the Top 100? Did the repeat of AA hurt his stock despite the great numbers?

Keith Law: (2:14 PM ET ) Repeat of AA hurts, as does the below-average fastball.

by theblackpearl on Jan 31, 2008 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Law thinks he's lost his ...

[mojo].

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jan 31, 2008 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty convinced

that the list is literally just "Keith Law's personal scouting experiences of various players." On the one hand, at least it means his list isn't the same as everyone else's. On the other hand, it's just like him to be egotistical enough to give no weight to anything other than his own judgment-- which is rife with various preconceived notions that seriously damage his objectivity.

cardinalprecepts.blogspot.com

by PaulThomas on Jan 31, 2008 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I've always viewed Law's player evaluations

with skepticism, because he is less forthcoming than other guys in telling how he comes up with his evaluations.  His baseball analysis in general I find very interesting, but individual player evaluatons are questionable.  This bizarre Top 100 list makes me wonder what games he is watching.  

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Jan 31, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Law

is a solid writer.  He knows more than we do.  We read Baseball America, and scrutinize the difference between a B and a B+.  He travels around the country to report on guys he actually watches, and does this for a living, not a hobby.  Every year, lists come out and the reactions are generally the same, "X's list has more A's players than Y's list.  Y sucks!  X's list is better."  

Law's list is entirely subjective.  Just like BA's, or BP's.  Our knowledge of prospects is pretty much limited to BA "rankings" and an annual handbook.  Owning a Sickels book doesn't make anybody an "expert."  Law does his own scouting, and forms his own opinions.  

Where is the evidence that Keith Law is a petty and immature writer that holds grudges against organizations?  Reds fans are upset with him over at BTF, and they have 2 of his top 10 prospects.  

East coast bias does exist, by and large.  But only in the mainstream (Baseball Tonight, the slew of unwatchable talk [yell] shows on ESPN), but guys like Law, Neyer, even most of the writers at BA don't have it.

Trust me, if Law said, "The A's have the deepest system in baseball and will be contenders year in and year out from 2009 until at least 2015" we'd
all be talking about how great his analysis is.

"He says lots of stupid things on the television set. He seems lazy and foolish to me." -Michael Lewis, on Joe Morgan

by BWH on Jan 31, 2008 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn't the fact that Reds fans are irritated

despite him rating the system highly indicate the opposite of what you're trying to argue here?

Yes, fans are always going to overvalue "their" guys. That doesn't change the written record-- and the written record is full of moronic things said by Law about A's players and prospects.

Frankly, I think Reds fans have beef with him as well, considering that he called Aaron Harang a #4 starter earlier this offseason.

cardinalprecepts.blogspot.com

by PaulThomas on Jan 31, 2008 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it's a matter

of nothing ever being good enough.  The common criticism of Law is, "He said Player X wasn't a potential star.  He doesn't know what he's talking about!"  I've never heard him criticized for overrating a player.

What has he said that could be considered "moronic?"  Moronic would be, like, saying Daric Barton's a relief pitcher.  Last year the guy had Yankee fans telling him he was underrating Joba last year, even though he constantly referred to him as a potential #1.  

What should he say?  That everyone's awesome?

And where is the other info coming from?  If Law says a pitcher has an average fastball, but other places say he has a plus fastball, why should we grant credibility to the latter?  There's a major tendency to say the guys on your team are all potentially awesome.  "Sickels gave him a B+, but Law said he's a 4th OF... Sickels is right."  It's why people jump to look at "perfect world projections," when in reality, those projections rarely come true.  

"He says lots of stupid things on the television set. He seems lazy and foolish to me." -Michael Lewis, on Joe Morgan

by BWH on Jan 31, 2008 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

OK

Saying Dan Haren is "a #3 pitcher with no strikeout pitch" is certifiably moronic.

cardinalprecepts.blogspot.com

by PaulThomas on Jan 31, 2008 11:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Generally I agree with you here

However, there is a difference between Law's rankings and rankings by BA and BP.  Baseball America's rankings are not based on just the subjective opinion of its writers, but is based very much on the collective wisdom of GMs, scouting directors, minor league managers and coaches, and scouts.  BA has by far the best access to baseball employees of any organization, and it is unfair to characterize their rankings the same way as Law's.  

BP's rankings are done by Goldstein, a former BA writer, and he has maintained the substantial contacts he had while at BA and largely still relies upon the opinion of those he talks to in forming his rankings.  Goldstein has also shown a willingness to listen to the "stat-nerds" he works with at BP, and I think his prospect analysis has been enhanced by his open mind.

Law has consistently refused to really define where his opinions come from, although he obviously has contacts in the industry.  His evaluations tend to reflect his subjective opinion, much like Sickels' evaluations do.  Sickels is more open about his subjectivity and bias, however.

Law may very well be the smartest mainstream baseball analyst, and he has a lot to offer.  His individual player evaluations, however, are filled with subjectivity and it's not really fair to BA and BP to compare their rankings with his.  Whether one agrees with any particular ranking by BA and BP, there is definitely a real method to their madness beyond "I really like that guy."

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Jan 31, 2008 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks to RFLOH for posting Keith Law's list in

another thread.

Keith Law's top 100 (0 / 0)
here

A's:
38 Daric Barton
42 Carlos Gonzalez
57 Fautino de los Santos
94 Trevor Cahill

Angels:
23 Nick Adenhart
34 Brandon Wood
79 Jordan Walden
87 Hank Conger

Mariners:
18 Carlos Triunfel
44 Jeff Clement
95 Wladimir Balentien

Rangers:
31 Elvis Andrus
40 Taylor Teagarden
46 Michael Main
48 German Duran 2B/3B
60 Eric Hurley
69 Chris Davis 3B
98 Engel Beltre RF

ZIPS: Milledge: 466 HR, 485 2B, 2282 hits, 278-379-524

by rfloh on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 12:34:15 PM PDT

by theblackpearl on Jan 31, 2008 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

Ahem. Blez, may I have a word with you ...

WARNING: he may look like a nice ol' guy, but you better put headphones on. NSFW over speakers.

The best that can be said about this is that it's imaginative. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jan 31, 2008 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

huh

That was Harlan Ellison. I didn't recognize him. Its been a long time since those Geo car commercials he did 20 years back.

by apilgrim on Jan 31, 2008 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

The Giants (the SF baseball ones)

have an urgent matter to address for 2008.

<barf>

"There's no real reason why a flight in which one flies naked should be more expensive than any other."

by Poppy on Jan 31, 2008 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

HEE

Last year, Bonds ceded two of his four lockers to Barry Zito in a show of superstar unity.

Now that the "superstar" part illicits snorts of disgust, does he have to give them to Cain?

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Jan 31, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey.

Keep your illicit snorts to yourself!

"There's no real reason why a flight in which one flies naked should be more expensive than any other."

by Poppy on Jan 31, 2008 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like Keith's top 100 is free on insider for

now.  Here is an excerpt on Carlos Gonzalez.  

He has an average arm for right field, but he gets good reads off the ball and should be fine in center if the A's choose to put him there.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insid...

Now everyone who has seen Herrera says he has a cannon, even after his TJ surgery, and BA says Gonzalez has the best outfield arm.

BEST
TOOLS
Best Hitter for Average Daric Barton
Best Power Hitter Carlos Gonzalez
Best Strike-Zone Discipline Daric Barton
Fastest Baserunner Jermaine Mitchell
Best Athlete Corey Brown
Best Fastball Fautino de los Santos
Best Curveball Gio Gonzalez
Best Slider Fautino de los Santos
Best Changeup Brett Anderson
Best Control James Simmons
Best Defensive Catcher Landon Powell
Best Defensive Infielder Gregorio Petit
Best Infield Arm Gregorio Petit
Best Defensive Outfielder Javier Herrera
Best Outfield Arm Carlos Gonzalez

by theblackpearl on Jan 31, 2008 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

I'm still wondering

what "best athlete" actually means. 40-yard dash time? Bench press? High jump?

I'm also not sure whether to take Powell's getting named best defensive catcher as a good sign that he can still play the position, or a bad sign that no one else can even beat out a guy with one knee.

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by PaulThomas on Jan 31, 2008 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I never watched LOST

and then...my middle daughter brought all three seasons worth of DVD's to our house. We watched  all three seasons in one week. We're hooked! I am  really looking forward to tonight's episode.

by IM4Oakgal on Jan 31, 2008 3:54 PM PST reply actions  

*All*three*seasons*in*one*week*

WOW.  Now only getting to watch just one episode each week is going to be really hard for you...  ;)

"There's no real reason why a flight in which one flies naked should be more expensive than any other."

by Poppy on Jan 31, 2008 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

precisely why I gave up on it

Watched s1 on dvd -- and then found watching s2 on broadcast time to be infuriating. Then when I went back to give it another shot on dvd, they had gotten into their Dean Smith-directs-Rashomon, WTF-are-we-doing, time-killing mode.

The best that can be said about this is that it's imaginative. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jan 31, 2008 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Dean-Smith-directs-Yojimbo

The Four Corner Samurai

There is an A in Whimsy.

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jan 31, 2008 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Dean Smith directs Steven King

Children of the Four Corners

(Or would that be Four Children of the Corn?)

The best that can be said about this is that it's imaginative. @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jan 31, 2008 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Too true
I just watched the episode and it seemed very dull...maybe I should wait until the end of the season and then buy the DVD set . Hehe

by IM4Oakgal on Jan 31, 2008 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Did your brain explode?

I just watched the recap episode and I forgot how freaking complicated this show is.

by pam5981 on Jan 31, 2008 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Just bring on more...

Bare-chested Sawyer and Sayid. That's all the complication I need. ;)

by IM4Oakgal on Jan 31, 2008 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

awww

Back when Lindsay was hot, memories, this has to be one of the hottest cast in a movie ever, Janis is probably my favorite.

by jahs34 on Jan 31, 2008 4:00 PM PST reply actions  

Helloooo 1st's diary

It's for a good (or at least fun) cause!  And recommend it so it won't disappear, even if you're not interested.

"There's no real reason why a flight in which one flies naked should be more expensive than any other."

by Poppy on Feb 1, 2008 6:37 AM PST reply actions  

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