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THE A’S WIN A GAME!!!!

I kind of wish this game would count for fifteen, and the A’s could be right back in it, but I think I have to face the sad reality of the fact that we’ve just finished a series with the 2007 American League West champions. That sentence even hurts to type. I can’t see the appeal of this Angels team, except, of course, for their superstar. Love him. But their pitchers are arrogant and annoying, their announcers are [insert your own adjective here], and their manager is Mike Scioscia. Enough said.

I suppose it would be a small victory for the A’s to finish at .500, but it seems such a hollow goal, especially when next season seems as suspect as this one. I envy the Angels’ Vlad; I envy the Yankees’ A-Rod, and I miss having that one player in the lineup that can make all the difference in the offense. I have hoped for years that Eric Chavez could be that player, and I think despite management’s hope for him and Crosby, the more time goes by, the less likely this seems.  

On a related note, the story of today’s game definitely involved Donnie Murphy, who was a huge part of the offense, going 3 for 4 in the contest with a homerun. I’ve said it before, and I know I’m working off ridiculously small sample sizes here, but if I had any say in the matter, he’d be the first-string shortstop, barring an off-season pickup. Our announcers gave us a half an inning song-and-dance of how Crosby is looking forward to a whole off-season of recovery and conditioning, and I just don’t buy it anymore. I don’t have the slightest bit of optimism regarding Bobby Crosby’s career, and I’m willing to put that in writing, even if I have to revisit this post next year, when Crosby wins the MVP and the fake Comeback Player award.  

As long as we’re talking about baseball’s little disappointments, I have to say that I am stunned at how poorly Nick Swisher has performed this season. It’s like he has lost his will to play baseball, and for whatever reason (today’s late-inning double notwithstanding), he has seemingly lost all of the talent that made me think he would be great. And boy did the A’s need him; when a team is down to batting Marco Scutaro second and Piazza third, they are hurting for players who can hit a baseball.

But it’s not all storm clouds and rainy days after today. The A’s had a solid win today; Joe Blanton settled down and pitched very well in his outing, and Ellis hit another homerun, setting an A’s record for second basemen with 17 in a season. Congratulations, Mark Ellis!

The A’s take the game by the final score of 6-2 and they head to Texas to take on the Rangers starting on Friday. I look forward to seeing more of Donnie Murphy.

And to get you through the off-day, be sure to read 'Getting Ziggy With It' right below this post!

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2 comments on Swisher
  1. Moving players around defensively often messes up their offense.  The A's should really try to put Swisher at either RF or 1B and pretty much leave him there.
  1. It's pretty likely he's playing injured.  First, because he's actually been DL'ed this year; second, on general principle because he's on the A's; third, because there's a specific precedent with him (his badly injured thumb that hurt his production in his last minor league season, but which he didn't really discuss until after the year was over, IIRC).

I don't think this year means that Swisher is going to be a mediocre hitter.  I think it means that the A's need to let him focus on his hitting next year and not put him on the field when he's hurting.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Sep 5, 2007 3:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I just read the DLD

and I swear to God that I wrote this comment before I saw Swisher's quote making exactly the same point about playing more than one position!

Which proves that I'm as smart as Nick Swisher.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Sep 5, 2007 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember him also saying it during the offseaso

or early in the season.  Can't remember where though...maybe BDSSP or some interview.

He would rather play one position...and preferably first base.

by easyraider on Sep 5, 2007 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep, quit jerking swisher around

and give him one position to play 90% of the time, with the remaining percent for have to situations.

The long sobs of autumn's violins wound my heart with monotonous languor.

by ak_A on Sep 5, 2007 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

Like the Canadian goose eventually seeking warmer climes each year, Crosby looks forward to an off-season of recovery and strengthening and I look forward to witnessing another year of sub-mediocrity from our shortstop.

Crosby may not be dumb, but his propensity for misfortune (self-afflicted and/or purely random) is sure annoying.  

This, of course, is also applicable to Mr. Fra-gee-lay, Rich Harden.

I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.

by franks a lot on Sep 5, 2007 3:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's hoping everything heals, learns, etc.

during the offseason. Lessons will be learned, surgeries performed, over the hill players signed, etc.

I'll be there in Arlington all weekend, rooting for our lovable MASH unit. Here's to them!

by Gromit1025 on Sep 5, 2007 3:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I still have hope for Bobby!

It has dimmed a bit compared to when I first fell in love with him, but it is still there! I understand peoples' frustration with him, I truly do, but I can't help but hold out a tiny sliver of hope!

As for Swisher, I think that the general feeling of loss that is hanging over the team and the 2007 season has grabbed hold of him. Nobody on this team, with the exception of Ellis, is walking with that strut that we had last year.

Honestly, I think that this year has been so disappointing because last year was so amazing! I mean, it still would have sucked, but it sucks all that much more because we all KNOW what WINNING feels like, and it is such a fresh memory. Everyone has a down year, it just hurts much, MUCH more when it follows one of the best years this team has had in a very long time!

"I'm already in Barry's head! He doesn't want to play against ME!" - Kotsay on facing Zito, Fan Fest 2007

by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Sep 5, 2007 4:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Swisher shouldn't have cut his hair.

It's that simple.  Look at his stats before and after the locks of love thing, and I bet you'll be able to twist them in some way so that they seem to support my point.  And don't tell me he did it for Cancer patients, because he could've just as easily paid a group of drunks in Martinez to cut off their mullets.  CURSE YOU, DELILIAH!

'I have a theory about Randy Bell, but it betrays such an abject lack of faith in humanity that I cannot voice it.' ~FSU

by LAXile on Sep 5, 2007 4:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not all in the hair

Honestly, Swish needs to stay at 1B and have that pal to kick it around with like Bradley was when he was still in good graces in Oakland.

Cutting his hair was one of Swish's good decisions.

Before the hair came off his profile pic looked like the Quaker oats guy.

After, he looks a little metro, but clean and ready to go nontheless.

Also think of the cancer patients.

Would you rather say to a person who is next in line to receive a natural hair wig:

"Hey, this hair is from Oakland Athletics star and all around great guy, Nick Swisher!"

or

"Hey, we found some drunks in Martinez who shaved their heads for a shot of Jager!! Don't worry, we washed out the puke smell!!

Thanks for cutting your hair Swish. When my gf gets her hair cut now, she'll want to donate it to cancer patients because of you.

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on Sep 6, 2007 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good points all.
'I have a theory about Randy Bell, but it betrays such an abject lack of faith in humanity that I cannot voice it.' ~FSU

by LAXile on Sep 6, 2007 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, BBG. Disagree with a lot of that

Just got back to the office after enjoying an A's win at the Big A.  
And got a ball from Lach (which reminds me, gotta write a diary about some of the dish I overheard from Lach during BP Monday.

As for my differences of opinion:

  1. My last ray of hope is to finish over .500.  If our worst season is a year in which we finish over .500, that is not bad.  And with the injuries we have had this year - I am very optimistic for 2008.
  1.  I am still hopeful that Crosby will figure it out...and I realize I am about the only one...well, maybe besides BCG.

Maybe it is just the Dirtbag in me.

I do agree with you about Swisher though.  I really like the guy but I expected big things this year after he knocked 35 dingers last year...with mono.
I like the walks but I prefer a little more agressiveness with more HRs.

by easyraider on Sep 5, 2007 4:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Swisher's struggles...

That has got to be one of the most concerning disappointments of this entire disappointing season. He really looks nothing like the guy he was last season. He's taking his walks, but without the power, he's not going to be that cornerstone player this team desperately needs (and paid for a few months ago when they extended him).

A .900+ OPS Swish plus a full year of Cust could make the A's offense respectable next season...but if Swish duplicates what he's done this season, then once again this team is in deep trouble...

by Taj Adib on Sep 5, 2007 4:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's pretty puzzling

He's continued to develop in some ways-- his average is up from last year, his walks are way up. And yet his power has dropped from exceptional to merely average. Maybe it really is exhaustion-- his bat speed seems to be diminished. He's swinging at, mostly, the right pitches, but he's missing them.

Then again, sometimes guys just have bad years. I'm not writing off David Ortiz because his power's down this year.

I do think that in future, the A's need to consider giving him more days off. He's not Tejada, and few are.

by PaulThomas on Sep 5, 2007 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

You're definitely right that he looks exhausted, especially when compared to earlier this season. He seems to just be flailing at pitches that he would once drive or at least foul off, especially with his left-handed swing, which seems like it's been completely knocked off balance in recent weeks.

Perhaps, as posters have said and Swisher himself has intimated, he would respond positively to being given one position and one position only to work out of for the entirety of next season.

He's clearly not cut out for center field duty and while his favorite position is first, that's really the only place to stick Barton. But with Buck possibly moving into center next season, backed up by a relatively healthy Kotsay and Denorfia, it's conceivable that Swisher could spend the vast majority of the year in either right or left, whichever he prefers.

If doing that would make Nick calmer at the plate and increase his power production in any way, then the team should look at any realistic option that would allow that.

by Taj Adib on Sep 5, 2007 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tejada's not even Tejada these days.
He's not going to try to kill you, I'm just going to try to doink you. -Rex Hudler

by JediLeroy on Sep 5, 2007 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But is Casilla still Casilla?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Sep 5, 2007 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you BBG

I don't want to see Crosby at SS next year.  I have seen enough to know there will be no change, it will be the same old Crosby, flailing away at any pitch outside, striking out with runners in scoring position.
My Christmas wish is to see Crosby, DJ, Kotsay sent as far away as possible.
I was pretty excited about Cust a month ago, but I fear teams have figured him out.  Swisher, like Cust walk a lot, but is that what you want with your so called RBI and power hitters?
I hope Murphy and Hannahan are on the roster next year and playing a lot.

by china bob on Sep 5, 2007 5:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Just keep something in mind with Cust

He is very streaky. Right when you're ready to annoint that "he has arrived!" he will go into a slump, and right when you decide "the league has figured him out," he'll go on another tear.

I can see where playing CF in particular is hurting Swish, since it's arguably his 4th best position. But even prior to that, he has not looked like a "next level" hitter. Hopefully it's just fatigue--if so, hard to blame the A's. They've hardly had the luxury of resting healthy OFers.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 5, 2007 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cust's August stats:

AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
86 17 27 4 1 6 22 27 0 28 0 0 .314 .470 .593 1.063

Cust really has just slumped the last 5 games. Who'd he go against?

Verlander
E. Santana (A's killer)
Saunders (lefty)
The Good Weaver
Nate Robertson (lefty)

Cust smacks righties around but struggles against lefties. The last five pitchers he's faced are either awesome or lefties. I doubt he'll continue to suck.

He's not going to try to kill you, I'm just going to try to doink you. -Rex Hudler

by JediLeroy on Sep 5, 2007 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That makes a lot of sense

you might be right, or at least I hope you are right.
Did I read it right, 27 walks, 28 K's?  His peripherals do look good, I didn't realize that, spending too much on the day to day, and not enough on the big picture.

by china bob on Sep 5, 2007 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but, but, crosby had a

few promising, pretty good at bats just prior to the injury....surely, that was the big change we were holding out for...surely he will pick up where he left off, once the rust has fallen away.

The long sobs of autumn's violins wound my heart with monotonous languor.

by ak_A on Sep 5, 2007 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course he will--

We just need to be patient and ignore what he does for the first 3 months while he's remembering where to stand.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 5, 2007 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey, its the majors, they throw

hard and a guy could get hit and hurt, so error on the side of caution.

The long sobs of autumn's violins wound my heart with monotonous languor.

by ak_A on Sep 5, 2007 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice--

For Crosby, not "err" on the side of caution, "error".

And yeah, baseballs are, like, harrrrd.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 5, 2007 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rookie of the year

Seems like a long, long time ago.

by paradox on Sep 5, 2007 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would gladly join you in a meal of crow

should Crosby prove us wrong next year

(Anything can happen, of course...but my guess is this won't)

by OaklandSi on Sep 5, 2007 5:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A couple comments from other games:
  • Carlos Peña today: 2 HRs, 7 RBI. Forget Comeback Player of the Year, just give him the frigging MVP award. What the heck got into him?

  • Thanks, Seattle, for utterly choking, and messing up the one thing that was going to make this season ok - the Yankees missing the playoffs. Gawd almighty.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 5, 2007 6:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I switched from the SEA-NYY game

once the score got to 9-2.  Went to St. Louis, where I found Mark Mulder trailing 3-0.  But shortly thereafter, Rick Ankiel turned nicely on an inside pitch and drove it into the right field seats for his 7th HR (in, I think, 22 games).  Now 3-2 Pirates.  Mulder expected to throw about 65 pitches (probably into the 5th).

by Soaker on Sep 5, 2007 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mulder...ugh

Gave up a 3-run HR to Ronny Paulino to straightaway center to make it 6-2.  FSN Midwest registering his fastball in the Zito Zone or less...between 84-87 mph.

by Soaker on Sep 5, 2007 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Esteban Mulder?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 5, 2007 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's exactly what it looked like

Loaiza pitching with a strained trapezius or a bulging **** in his neck.  I only saw 1 inning, and he's not coming out for the 5th, but they might be better off shutting him down until February.

by Soaker on Sep 5, 2007 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Word

Youse and I were in Seattle in July, when the Marinators looked like a confident bunch, whipping our boys 3 outta 4.  "SoDo Mojo"???  None IMO!

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Sep 5, 2007 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well if we can't eliminate the Big Angels, lets

hope the Rivercats can beat Fatolo and the little Angels.  The Cats scored 1 run in the 1st inning aff a single from Barton, after a double from Blasi.

by theblackpearl on Sep 5, 2007 6:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Boo.

I get that it's a rehab start and all, but it just seems wrong to start a Cy Young winner in a Triple-A playoff game.

Kettlecorn! Swishercorn!

by TurnTwo on Sep 5, 2007 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems kind of unfair that Sacramento

goes into the playoffs without Braden or Meyer. It's kind of like sending Oakland to the ALDS, but saying "Oh, we need Haren and Blanton to be somewhere else this week, but good luck!"

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 5, 2007 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the postgame show Buan asked Forst if there

was any chance the A's would try and sign Blanton through his arbitration years.  Forst basically said it was too late and that Blanton has earned the right to demand a princely sum in arbitration, and that the A's would be able to afford him next season but maybe not beyond that.  If this is the case, it seems like the A's might continue to shop Joe, which is kinda sad.  

by scromulus on Sep 5, 2007 6:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm getting a vision of Blanton

in Dodger Blue, and a talented young guy or two driving up I-5.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 5, 2007 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, if it were the right one...

I'd take it over the wrong two!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 5, 2007 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At LEAST two...

Since we gave them Loaiza, we better get at least two solid prospects, one of which HAS to be a starting pitcher (Kershaw/Orenduff/Elbert?) since the swap will essentially be Loaiza + Blanton, 2/5s of our projected starting rotation for this season!

The other, at the very least, needs to be LaRoche, and I'd like to see if he could be converted into a competent left fielder, since we won't be able to unload Chavez to make room for him at 3rd.

by Taj Adib on Sep 5, 2007 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was wondering if Blanton for LaRoche

might be a deal. LaRoche would give the A's a potential plus-hitter in the OF, and one who could slip in for Chavez at 3B as needed. If the A's want LaRoche they may not be able to ask for anyone else. Or they could ask for two prospects but not land one as highly regarded as LaRoche.

The A's could do such a deal, and come out ok, especially if they made a separate deal that landed them a better pitching prospect than the Braden/Meyer options currently provide. The Tigers are pretty stacked at AAA and I believe they could do well with Crosby (I'll elaborate on that in a future post). I'd be willing to go with Murphy at SS with LaRoche in the lineup (and Chavez in the mix wherever/whenever he can contribute), at the expense of a little "proven starting pitching," especially if we could replace Blanton with a decent young AAA pitcher.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 5, 2007 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

I think that if Beane can get LaRoche from Coletti, he'd probably do the deal, since I think James Simmons will be Blanton redux come 2009. But regardless, I'd still drive a hard bargain to get at least one starting pitching prospect from Colleti.

I'm starting to think that maybe, just maybe, this is what all the reporters were buzzing about when intimating about the positive effect the "goodwill" of giving Loaiza away to the Dodgers for the stretch run.

I can imagine that Beane said something along the lines of, "We won't pull Loaiza back from waivers now, but in a couple of months I want this guy and that guy for Blanton, since he's the one you really wanted anyway."

And I can further imagine that "this guy" and "that guy" were LaRoche and one of their starting pitching prospects.

by Taj Adib on Sep 5, 2007 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds reasonable--

Billy knows the A's need two things right now: A possible impact hitter, and as good a "Plan B" as possible for 3B, because you just never know what Chavez' future holds. LaRoche gives you both in one.

So LaRoche and a decent pitching prospect for Blanton and "we won't pull Loaiza back from waivers" seems near-fetched (that's the opposite of far-fetched). The question then is what pitching prospect is about the right level of prospect to make that deal work for both sides. Kershaw's too good for this deal; who's worth getting (from the A's POV) but worth giving up in this fictional deal from LAD's POV?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 5, 2007 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should've traded Blanton @ the trading deadline

His value was insanely high back then and he would've gotten us more than what he'd give us if we trade him this offseason.

"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Sep 5, 2007 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm actually not sure that's the case--

Blanton did his poorest pitching in July, which is what scared LAD off. He's back to pitching well and might end the season with outstanding numbers (his ERA is under 4.00, his W-L is solid, and his BB/IP ratio is out of sight). The urgency for a starting pitcher was there on July 31st, but Blanton's value wasn't. It's there again now. (So much so that I realllllllly don't want to lose him, but...sigh.)

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 5, 2007 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's true

But the difference is that back then, the Dodgers were desperate for starting pitching and were willing to overpay lots for a good starting pitcher, as there were very very few of those on the market. In the offseason, the Dodgers will be less desperate to make a move and in any case, they have much more options to choose from, whether it's acquiring a less pricey SP than Blanton in a trade or signing a FA pitcher. They're not gonna be as willing to give up top prospects for Blanton, and take in account he's not gonna be as cheap anymore with arbitration coming up. Plus, I'm not sure if Blanton's bad starts in July played a huge factor in their decision not to trade for him. More so, I think it might have to do with Beane asking for way too much.

"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Sep 5, 2007 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll never know for sure

what stopped the trade from happening, but it sounded like they were close and you could look at as Beane asked too much (and wouldn't come down) or LAD was pondering Beane's demands but decided Blanton wasn't a sure enough bet.

Come the off-season, for a team with ample payroll (like LAD) Blanton won't scare them away with his salary. FA options aren't great this year and Blanton is an established #2-#3 starter who is young, healthy, and pitches deep into games. He's worth a LaRoche if you need starting pitching--and who doesn't? I think Beane can get a lot for Blanton in the off-season if he decides to deal him. Pitchers of his quality are not available that often.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 5, 2007 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it's all speculation really.

Of course no one knows what really kept a Blanton to LA deal from happening at the deadline. And you're right about there not being a lot of good FA options this offseason, but that still does not mean the Dodgers will be desperate enough to give up a huge deal for Blanton. LA could simply decide to sign a lesser FA SP for one year and then go after a really good pitcher next offseason (there's loads of good starting pitchers next year). Yes, they'd probably not be getting as good as a pitcher as Blanton for 08 but they wouldn't have to give up a package of top prospects either.

I'm not saying that Blanton isn't going to attract a bunch of great offers from teams this offseason, I'm just saying it's possible that Beane could have gotten even a better deal if he traded him at the deadline. At the deadline, Beane was fully in control of the driver's seat, he could've gotten (almost) whatever he wanted. During this offseason? Not as much.

"We were s--, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Sep 5, 2007 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point there are lots

of good FA starting pitchers in 2009. Santana, Sabathia, Sheets among others. There's no guarantee that all the good FAs are not going to sign extensions. Look at what happened this year. The 2 best FAs never became FAs.

On Sunday, Minaya ticked off a list of candidates to join the rotation, and for once this season, none of them was Jose Lima.

by rfloh on Sep 5, 2007 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really hope you're misinterpreting what he said

because if he's not willing to pay second-year arbitration money to a top-tier pitcher, he's seventeen kinds of idiot. I do NOT want someone like that GMing my team.

by PaulThomas on Sep 5, 2007 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Forst was telling the truth as far as

paying Blanton his arb money this year, but not signing an extension. Despite the Loaiza thing, among other moves, I get the feeling Billy really wants to see if he can tweak this team just enough in the offseason and contend next year. It would be his biggest feat ever as GM. Trading Blanton puts a major question mark on that plan.

If the A's go down the tubes again, Blanton's definitely gone for good prospects, and no major money is lost signing him to an extension. If the A's do contend in 08, with Blanton a big part of it, they can then decide on an extension through his arb years, or they can still trade him after the season for a huge haul of prospects, ala Mulder/Hudson. A healthy Harden in 08 and the continued development of James Simmons would be a big factor in this decision as well. You don't get rid of a guy like Blanton until you know you have his replacement (or are getting him in the deal).

P.S. Joe is probably my favorite A's pitcher right now and I really don't want to see him go yet, can you tell?

It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it great. - Jimmy Dugan

by AintEasyBeinGreen on Sep 6, 2007 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

River Cats tie it up in the 9th...

Merloni comes up big with a two out single to score Cornejo. 1 out bottom 9th - Ziegler pitching second inning of relief

"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." Billy Beane

by athleticsBB4life on Sep 5, 2007 8:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

River Cats take lead in the 10th...

Piedra singles in Blasi

"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." Billy Beane

by athleticsBB4life on Sep 5, 2007 8:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of whom, is it possible

that Piedra is the next Cust-like find? He has just raked from the moment he joined the Rivercats and he was known as a very good hitting prospect not too long ago.

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by Nico on Sep 5, 2007 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How exciting!

I'm so glad that at least one team in the organization is playing well!

"I never saw a hooligan I did like. They're like left-handed pitchers, they all have a screw loose somewhere." - The Asphalt Jungle

by drmmerchk on Sep 5, 2007 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...that looked hideous

To paraphrase some ex-A's manager (Dick Williams?):  "I've seen 5 ****ing hits and I don't have a ****ing out yet."

9-8 Salt Lake in 10.

by Soaker on Sep 5, 2007 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh-oh...

<braces> Ziggy?

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by Nico on Sep 5, 2007 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope, that was Jeff Gray

Ziegler pitched a scoreless 8th and 9th, allowing just one hit.  He was set to be the winning pitcher when the Cats scored two in the top of the 10th to take an 8-6 lead.

by Soaker on Sep 5, 2007 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So in what order

did Rhodes and Dotel pitch the bottom of the 10th?

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by Nico on Sep 5, 2007 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

inspired!

You get QOTM, and "Brilliant Subtlety Award"

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Sep 5, 2007 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stewart may be back

 beane said in the papers tonight that he wants Stewart back and will try to sign him.  On the other note the Eliis is a no brainer.  Beane said the A's will pick it up at the end of the year.  

by Arcman on Sep 5, 2007 9:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

here's the quote from the Chron

Asked about the possibility of re-signing Stewart, A's general manager Billy Beane said, "Well, when we do these things, we usually evaluate at the end of the year - but I think it would behoove us to consider that. The flip side is that he's had such a good year, Shannon will be attractive to a lot of teams."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...

I read that a bit differently. He's complimenting Stewart but also hinting that the A's might not bid for his services.

by OaklandSi on Sep 5, 2007 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is exactly like Big Frank last year.

Obviously, it would have behooved the A's to try to resign Thomas, and they tried, but another team offered way more than the A's were going to (rightfully so, I think). They will try to keep Stew, but they won't break the bank on it.

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by AintEasyBeinGreen on Sep 6, 2007 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If stewart gets the out rageous money

 Exactly,  The A's will resign him if he comes in around 5 million a year and no more than 3 years.  I don't realy see him getting alot of money.  Look at payton he signed with th O's and they put him through waivers this year with no takers.  

by Arcman on Sep 6, 2007 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good god

I wouldn't sign Shannon to a $15 million contract. That's lunacy. The A's aren't nearly that desperate.

by PaulThomas on Sep 6, 2007 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

N-O-O-O-Oooooooo!!!!!!!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 6, 2007 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back to Swish

I think he's a very emotional person and he misses his emotional friends Milton and Big Frank. He needs a buddy! Beane should get him an emotional playmate.

by A'sfansince1970 on Sep 6, 2007 7:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I notice both of those guys are black

Does this mean that Shannon Stewart is Not Black Enough?

New team slogan: "Your 2008 A's: Not Ethnic Enough!"

by PaulThomas on Sep 6, 2007 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

as gay as that sounds.....
its entirly true. When Bradley left, Swish lost a step or two. He's a very emotional player, and kinda a "showoff". He likes the camera on him, the same way he likes to have buddy he can compete against to hit more HR's or whatever. if there isnt much on the line, he doesnt play his best....i just hope this doesnt lead into next season and Beane really can sign a "buddy" for Swish....wow that sounds gay!

by PSHABAZ on Sep 6, 2007 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe you're the only guy

who has sex and forms domestic partnerships with all his buddies.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 6, 2007 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shut-up!

From today's SFChron:
"He set the record, right? Seventeen jacks?" A's outfielder Nick Swisher asked. "Thank goodness. I was sick of seeing that 'tied for the franchise lead' on the scoreboard all the time."

It has only been one day and I am sick of seeing Swisher tied with Ellis at 17 HRs for the season. I would also like to see him take a lower profile. In Swisher's defense he needs to play 1 position and i think his greatest value is as a corner outfielder.

by NoeValley on Sep 6, 2007 10:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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