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Four cards, please

Tigers 6, A's 1. Verlander gets the W, Haren takes the L.

In today's hand, the A's showed their ace, and didn't pick anything up except for a one-eyed Jack.

Haren hasn't exactly "struggled" since the ASB, but he's certainly performed a patented oaktoon-style regression beyond the mean. As in most of Haren's starts, he got hit hard early -- and today, as in recent starts, he got hit hard near the end as well.

And the A's offense, aside from Piazza, didn't do much hitting early, late, or in between. Verlander wasn't exactly masterful, throwing a ton of pitches and allowing a decent handful of baserunners, but he was good enough to stymie the A's.

Thankfully, Nick Swisher, by grounding out to end the game, kept Jack Cust from having an opportunity to tie on the Titanium Sombrero. Cust struck out 4 times in the game, the last coming in the 7th with the bases loaded and 2 outs and the A's trailing 5-1.

Beane's going to have to pick up a few more face cards for 2008; otherwise, we'll all know that he's just bluffing.

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Can't quite agree about Verlander
I thought he was dealing, and when he's on he's just extremely hard to hit. Sure the pitch count was a little high but 10 Ks will do that.

Cust's "bat on the shoulder" strike out in the 7th was so not surprising that it is of concern. It's September and the A's still can't figure out the difference between a time not to expand the strike zone and a time to protect the plate.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 1, 2007 4:40 PM PDT reply actions  

I thought you could tell from the first pitch of

that AB that he was not at all comfortable with that pitcher's delivery.

by mikeA on Sep 1, 2007 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cust has been doing this all season

he still doesn't foul off close pitches with two strikes. It's especially a problem in key situations.

by OaklandSi on Sep 1, 2007 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cust is not going to change

If you don't like his approach, then you dump him like other orgs. If he can see that he has value even with his "bat on the shoulder" strike outs, you accept that he will always have "bat on the shoulder" strike outs.

On Sunday, Minaya ticked off a list of candidates to join the rotation, and for once this season, none of them was Jose Lima.

by rfloh on Sep 2, 2007 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

not being the GM I am not dumping him

or anyone else. This is a flaw in his batting that quite a few people have noticed -- and cannot be blamed solely on bad umpire calls.

Unless he is uncoachable there is no reason why he can't work on this part of his game.

by OaklandSi on Sep 2, 2007 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

That Cust called third strike

was an egregiously bad call by the home plate umpire. The pitch didn't even nick the plate. Not to grouse excessively about the umpires, but the Tigers got the benefit of the doubt on a whole bunch of incredibly questionable calls in this game from both sides. I'm not paranoid enough to think that that ump actually was trying to favor the Tigers-- he just sucks, period.

by PaulThomas on Sep 1, 2007 4:52 PM PDT reply actions  

It is true but

at some point in time the A's hitters are going to have to figure out this is  not Little League and just stand at the plate waiting for a walk.  You cannot depend on the umpire walking you all the time.  Cust will be back in AAA soon if he doesn't begin to figure out you have to swing and HIT the ball once in awhile.  He has had a nice little season, hit a lot of HR's mostly in the first two weeks, and has struck out an excessive amount of times, mostly watching the 3rd strike.

by china bob on Sep 1, 2007 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

and people wonder how cust was stuck in AAA

for so long.  here's your answer.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 1, 2007 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't have it both ways

complaining about guys swinging at obvious balls, and complaining when they don't swing and the ump screws them.

by MobiusKlein on Sep 1, 2007 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the ump is calling it a strike, unless the ump

is extremely incompetent, it isn't an obvious ball, and the A's need to expand the strike zone sometimes.

by theblackpearl on Sep 1, 2007 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

This ump was incompetent

and the pitch was an obvious ball.

Go look it up on Gameday. The pitch was not close to the zone. You cannot afford to be hacking at fastballs down and away out of the strike zone with 2 strikes, 2 outs and the bases loaded. You have to trust that the guy behind the plate knows what he's doing. In this case, Cust got hosed for it.

by PaulThomas on Sep 1, 2007 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have agree with you.

It would be foolish for Cust or any player to change their approach based on the umps interpretation of the strike zone on a given day.  Cust knows what a strike is and what he can do with a given pitch.  I don't think we would have been any happier if he rolled over and grounded out to the 2nd baseman.  

I will say this...it seems to me that the A's are all to often on the receiving end of poor calls by the umpires.  People may disagree with me....and have.  But our manager and our coaches are going to have to do more to protect our hitters.  Umpires are human, and if you establish the fact that you will not contest marginal calls, then they are going to take the path of least resistance and make those calls in your opponents favor.  Even if you argue a call where you are wrong, at a minimum you have established that you will bark and bring attention to their error.

The Angels understand this.  Scioscia argues all the time.  It pisses me off, but I understand why he's doing it....and it works.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Sep 2, 2007 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cust has Kd

a lot, he has also walked an "excessive" amount.

Let's look at his splits: 8 HRs in May, 5 in June, 4 in July, 6 in August. So, he did not hit a lot of HRs "mostly in the first two weeks".

His month by month OPS from May: 1.022, .970, .757, 1.063.

On Sunday, Minaya ticked off a list of candidates to join the rotation, and for once this season, none of them was Jose Lima.

by rfloh on Sep 2, 2007 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cust often takes pitches

right down the middle for strike three. He doesn't have to "completely change his game" in order to make occasional two-strike adjustments--like stop guessing about what's coming and just react to what comes.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 2, 2007 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Goddamn ABC delay

I'm watching the Cal game, Tennessee has the ball between downs, and I hear a cannon outside. WTF, I thought, Cal scored? Sure enough 20 second later they score on a turnover. It sort of ruined a very exciting play.

by mikeA on Sep 1, 2007 5:24 PM PDT reply actions  

everyone's talking about desean jackson

as one of the best in the country, and i'm sure he is, but so far i'm most impressed by the RB (forsett?).  

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 1, 2007 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Forsett is terrific

He got quite a bit of playing time when Lynch had some minor injuries; obviously not the size of Lynch but nice speed.

by Soaker on Sep 1, 2007 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

desean jackson is pretty good, too

holy sh*t

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 1, 2007 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know much about football

but I know what I like....and that was it.

Disclaimer: I haven't given up on the 2007 season.

by Englishmajor on Sep 1, 2007 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

He had a couple like that last year, too!!

Cal's defense did look better on that last series but overall their tackling has been sloppy so far tonight.

by Soaker on Sep 1, 2007 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

so it has come to this

a game thread of under 100 comments.  haven't seen that like....ever, probably not even spring training in 2 years

Let's have our Piazza and eat the Cust too - SPWC

by closetasfan on Sep 1, 2007 6:02 PM PDT reply actions  

check again
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 1, 2007 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Way to take one for the team

but your content/comment ratio is now at the point where...well, how to put this..you've been DFA'd.  Or, really, D'dFA.

"Female ass are strange creatures. They come and go as they please." -- Sigourney Weaver

by oblique on Sep 1, 2007 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

K
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 1, 2007 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

C
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 1, 2007 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

U
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 1, 2007 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

F

...

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 1, 2007 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

xbx = Country Joe?

Whatever...your sig will never get old.

by Soaker on Sep 1, 2007 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go post on a Rangers' blog for a while

and once they get sick of you, we'll take you back out of pity.

The good news is that everyone but you will reminisce about how awesome you are.

"Female ass are strange creatures. They come and go as they please." -- Sigourney Weaver

by oblique on Sep 1, 2007 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watched the game today...

and could have commented but I figured that people would get tired of reading me write..."oh Shit." Over and over and over again.

by IM4Oakgal on Sep 1, 2007 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice timing

While the Tennessee-Cal game goes to halftime, we turn our attention to Fenway Park, where the Red Sox lead the Orioles 8-0 in the bottom of the 8th.

by Soaker on Sep 1, 2007 6:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Two outs in the 9th...

...in the kid's 2nd major league start.

by Soaker on Sep 1, 2007 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a Red Sox fan...

...but this was not Curt Schilling in a 1-0 game against my team in my home ballpark.  This was Clay Buchholz in his second major league game with a 10-0 lead.  Markakis was frozen on that last pitch.  Nice to see.

by Soaker on Sep 1, 2007 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fucholz
Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Sep 1, 2007 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pull the plug.

"Whoa, are you saying... a testosterone-addled Rich Harden, in a fit of misplaced aggression after growing several extra pairs, ran over LAXile?" Poppy

by Jennifer on Sep 1, 2007 8:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Ooh look--you can

see the 2002 season!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 1, 2007 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's the support for the coach at Michigan

FIRE LLOYD CARR NOW!!

MZone is hilarious...I don't want to link to it because it can be NSFW, but the site is michiganzone.blogspot.com and I imagine there will be some wonderful content there in the next couple of days.

Lookin' good for the Golden Bears to move into the Top 10.

by Soaker on Sep 1, 2007 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was sooo looking forward

to an Oakland Cy Young...

...Ozzy says "Goodbye to Romance"...

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on Sep 1, 2007 8:56 PM PDT reply actions  

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