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No, I'm not talking about all drama surrounding Milton Bradley and his remarkable ability to not just shut up (remember when this guy refused to talk to the media at the beginning of his A's tenure?  I miss those days).  Nor am I talking about Slingblade and Scioscia complaining about an A's pitcher nearly hitting a batter after they break Crosby's hand and then nearly do the same to Suzuki in back-to-back series.  And people wonder why I despise the Angels more than any other team in baseball?  Listen, Lackey, shut up.  I know it's hard because you can't close your slack-jawed mouth and your Mom dropped you on your head too many times as a child, but get your jaw wired shut or something.  I think Lackey has taken the crown from Schilling as the pitcher I dislike the most.  Although the contest is still wide open at this point.  Scioscia and Lackey have bigger things to worry about these days...like who is going to clear the rats out of their lockers.

I'm getting off topic here.  This past weekend, one of the most interesting things that people kept asking each other was what the A's should do with their new alternate uniform.  There was a post about it on AN as well.

My personal feeling is that the A's should either go retro and bring back the old gold unis with the big A's logo on the left part of the chest.  OR what I'm hearing more often than anything is a request for the A's to go back to the black unis from a few years ago.  I really liked the black as well.  Not so great for day games in a summer sport, but I really liked them.  The one thing I always felt was missing from them though was some gold.  So I would love for the team to use the basic black uniform with the green Athletics be outlined in gold instead of white and the green A's on the cap to have an outline of gold as well.

That's my personal feeling, but I was wondering what you guys felt.  Should it incorporate more of the trademark A's elephant?  Should it be retro or should we go back to having the black unis?  Or something else entirely?  I added a poll below for all of AN to chime in.

Oh and in case you missed it, I wanted to make sure that everyone saw the post-AN Day post I wrote.  It's important to me that you all understand how much I appreciate this community.  Also, make sure and check out JLaff's diary on AN Day and the photos that accompanied it.

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What should the A's go with for their new alternate unis?
Something retro
214 votes
Go back to black
101 votes
More emphasis on the elephant
66 votes
Other
17 votes

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HOWEVER...

If they were to wear uniforms, I would enjoy it if they went back to the throwback gold ones. For some reason, I am utterly infatuated with those uniforms. I love how the gold looks on the guys, and they should all wear the high socks. It should be mandatory. It's so sad that now that Bobby is on the DL, if someone besides Cupcakes is pitching, no one on the field is wearing the high socks anymore. Personally, I think that players who don't wear the high socks haven't fully embraced the ballplayer within. Yes, Travis, that means you. What makes me even more frustrated is when players like Nick Swisher and Mark Kotsay tease and wear the high socks every so often, but not often enough. It's irksome.

I just want the high socks.

Stuck on Buck :)

by GreenNGoldGirl on Aug 6, 2007 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the gold unis,

but they should be updated a little, to have buttons on them.

Pullovers were a bad idea in the 80's, and they're a bad idea now.

"We are all gods. You can never underestimate the creative potential of a human being. Nor the destructive potential."- Robert Pollard, GbV

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Aug 6, 2007 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was a sad, sad day when he stopped.

I'm not sure if Chad Gaudin is still rocking the high socks. He was for a while. Danny Haren has worn the high socks once since he's been in Oakland. It was a start against Boston last season. I believe it was... July 26th? I'm not sure. It was Root Beer Float Day. He looked good, but he mentioned to the paper that it wasn't a look he was going to keep because he thought he had chicken legs. Ha.

Stuck on Buck :)

by GreenNGoldGirl on Aug 6, 2007 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the way you think.

I was saying yesterday that being a female fan (true fan) is the best thing ever, because you're totally allowed to be shallow.

"Who is Danny and why are we eating his cake?" -Jennifer's mom

by pam5981 on Aug 6, 2007 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Black unis

would send me into a black rage.

by mikeA on Aug 6, 2007 12:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

racist
I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 6, 2007 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

aw geez

that article made me a little upset.
hatehatehate.

by katinthehat on Aug 6, 2007 12:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

Grade A rant from the blogfather.

"...we don't score six, seven runs. We score three, four runs and play defense and pitch" - Eric Chavez

by pickinmachine on Aug 6, 2007 12:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

opportunity for coolest uni link ever

This site at the HOF justifiably gets linked every time the uni discussion comes up.

My vote was "Other": I'd love to see a retro Philly A's look.

And I'd love to see them do a full Costanza, and go with natural-fiber flannels.

I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 6, 2007 12:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see

the 70's era unis updated with buttons and less striping on the sleeves, along with a black version of the 70's era uni in the same vein.

It would add 4 alternate unis, which may be a little much, but it would bring back "A's" to the chest of the uni, which I like.

Most people say "A's" instead of "Athletics."  You save two syllables that way.

"We are all gods. You can never underestimate the creative potential of a human being. Nor the destructive potential."- Robert Pollard, GbV

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Aug 6, 2007 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A's vs Athletics

Remember, even when we get the new stadium, we'll still be a "small-market-share" team -- and extra syllables (not to mention extra sew-on letters) are expensive.

I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 6, 2007 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew there was a reason

Beane didn't pull the trigger on the Saltalamacchia trade.

So it goes.

by jeepers on Aug 6, 2007 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but you forgot the obvious nickname

J-Salt!

That's a 67% syllabic savings!

"We are all gods. You can never underestimate the creative potential of a human being. Nor the destructive potential."- Robert Pollard, GbV

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Aug 6, 2007 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Retro, retro, retro!

Preferably in gold.  I hate the black uniforms.

So it goes.

by jeepers on Aug 6, 2007 12:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Home whites. Road grays.
Maybe the dark is from your eyes.

by andeux on Aug 6, 2007 12:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I don't even particularly like the green ones, either.

So it goes.

by jeepers on Aug 6, 2007 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if it's just home whites and road grays,

let's get rid of the DH and the rock music and the scoreboards and the dot races too.

And make sure those whites and grays are flannel, not the modern fabrics...

We can get an organ player and Bob Geren can manage in a suit, just like Mr. Mack did.

"We are all gods. You can never underestimate the creative potential of a human being. Nor the destructive potential."- Robert Pollard, GbV

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Aug 6, 2007 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dot races bite...

...lamest thing ever!  Bar none.

by UncleLeo on Aug 6, 2007 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Works for me.

I hate dot racing, too.

So it goes.

by jeepers on Aug 7, 2007 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

dot racist
I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 7, 2007 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didn't like the black unis at all

(sign me up billy ;)

i think they should rock the old 70s gold ones and the old nearly florescent green ones too.  those simply kick ass.

by Backspin on Aug 6, 2007 12:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Keep the same....

I love the green unis, my favorite of their current uniforms.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Aug 6, 2007 12:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Black unis are so cliche...

...everybody who wants to look tough uses them.  They're overdone.

I prefer the home whites and road grays most often.  Our basic unis are very classy looking, IMHO.  The dark green are good to break things up, too.  Their color is green, they should be proud of that.

Retro only works if the Astros, Padres, and Pirates do the same.

by UncleLeo on Aug 6, 2007 1:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cliche is right

And black is not a team color.  It's a color of the Giants, Orioles, White Sox and Pirates, not the A's.  I think the Mets unis got worse when they added black, and I wish the Marlins and Rockies would focus more on their unique colors (teal and purple) than black.  Heck, I wish the Padres would re-adopt brown.

The A's should be proud of the green!

"Former Huntsville Star Eric Chavez..."

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Aug 6, 2007 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Entirely agreed with

Black is NOT an A's color. Stick to the green and gold, and cut the nonsense. If we use black again it'll be a sad day.

RagingHarden: Yeah if you get 20 starts out of me I'll be shocked. Like, I'll wreck my drawers.

by walk off bunt on Aug 6, 2007 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rock on, my brown Padre brother!

The Padres should readopt brown, and go brown to the core.  I'm talking all-brown Sunday alternates, and the brown cap with the yellow front.  That hat was awesome!

Then the Astros can wear the rainbows, and the A's can wear gold, and the Phillies can rock the all-purple and the Orioles the all-orange, like they did in the 70's.

Mind you, I'm talking about all of these as alternates, not as the main unis...  

"We are all gods. You can never underestimate the creative potential of a human being. Nor the destructive potential."- Robert Pollard, GbV

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Aug 6, 2007 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I LOVEthe anti-Lackey rant. Need more!

Lackey is hated, and not because he's a great pitcher (yes, I admit it).  He is a jackhole, an ignoramus, he was too f'ing stupid to get the part in Deliverance he auditioned for.... As for the uniforms, I think they should use elvish invisibility cloaks.

'I have a theory about Randy Bell, but it betrays such an abject lack of faith in humanity that I cannot voice it.' ~FSU

by LAXile on Aug 6, 2007 1:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Where was Kendall when we needed him?

Unfortunately, this is the only time I would have appreciated him back with the A's.  And thank you Blez, I, for one, has Lackey on the top of my Hit List!

BaseBallDiva "Practice Safe Eating - Always Use Condiments"

by BaseballDiva on Aug 6, 2007 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right after Crosby was hit, Stew was brushed back

And that old fashioned too-close-for-comfort chin music bothered me. I mean this was a guy's head! No wonder Stew looked so irritated (especially right after Crosby got dinged), but he took it like a pro, and a man.

Why is Lackey crying? If his team is going to dish out dirt like that chin song, just because a team is owning them, they'd better learn to take a symbolic statement back-- or worse.

Isn't this why Texas attacked them during batting practice? Heh, heh.

I admit, I wasn't entirely happy when Vlad got thrown behind, but I understand Haren's position as staff leader, particularly as the Angels continued to run in the ball at his mates... including his young battery mate.

by Fungo on Aug 6, 2007 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why altternate other to sell fans merchandise?

Wear white at home and gray on the road -- that's hardball. When I see teams wearing their alternate uniform I think a softball game is about to start. No sleeveless, or pullovers, or dark colored tops. While we're at it no names on home whites.

by NoeValley on Aug 6, 2007 1:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I can't stand the no-name unis.

I like seeing the name on the back.

Stuck on Buck :)

by GreenNGoldGirl on Aug 6, 2007 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate the no-names too.

And I'm not one of those people who's asking, "Who's #12?" either.  

Yet, just because I know Donnie Murphy's # doesn't mean that most people do, and that's why I like the names.

"We are all gods. You can never underestimate the creative potential of a human being. Nor the destructive potential."- Robert Pollard, GbV

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Aug 6, 2007 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The black uniforms WREAK of KC Royals, NY Mets,

and other wretched uniforms like the 'sleeveless' get ups the Cincinatti Reds sport.

PLEASE do not bring back the black jerseys.  Just awful!!!

by SwisherSweet33 on Aug 6, 2007 1:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The worst rats in Anaheim sit ...

... in front of the lockers.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 6, 2007 1:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Once Classy thing about the Yankees

Is that they wear the same uniforms they have been wearing since the 20's. Pinstripes at home, and greys on the road. It bugs me how nowdays all teams are trying to wear either Red or Blue. The D backs, Padres, Brewers, Astros all have abandoned their original colors.

"I Will Not Relent, I Am Driven"... Clutch
Bring Back The Bash!!!

by Shippee33 on Aug 6, 2007 1:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ditto that

My favorite uni of all time is the Tigers home Gothic D.

I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 6, 2007 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm...

As much as I love the Yankees and Tigers classic styling, the A's have a classic style too, which is a uniform that says "A" or "A's", not "Athletics," and the A's can represent that classic style even with the garish colors of their modern color scheme.

(note for those who don't know:  The A's colors used to be blue and white, then for a very short time, black and red, then the change to green & gold in 1963)

"We are all gods. You can never underestimate the creative potential of a human being. Nor the destructive potential."- Robert Pollard, GbV

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Aug 6, 2007 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree about the Tigers' unis...

...I think the Tigers have the classiest looking home unis of any team.  A's are close behind, though.

by UncleLeo on Aug 6, 2007 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back in the day...

...did the Astros have "a" color?  ;-)

by UncleLeo on Aug 6, 2007 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the green right now,

not so much the road grays, but I LOVE the gold throwbacks. With the high socks and stirrups. My favorite.

by whiteshoes40 on Aug 6, 2007 2:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hope they decide soon!!!

I'm in such a sweat to buy some more of MLB's over-priced crap that I just canNOT wait for the next opportunity!

I think it's really too bad baseball/sports-in-general have become so mercenary and over-MBA'd that we have to assume there's a nekkid profit motive behind every move they make.  

I want some of my innocence back.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 6, 2007 2:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You can get your innocence back

MLB.com has it for $54.95 (plus shipping and handling and sales tax where applicable).

Maybe the dark is from your eyes.

by andeux on Aug 6, 2007 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

However...

Innocence is blacked out if you live 1,000 miles within any Major, Minor, College, High School or Little League Baseball team. You should come to the stadium to get your innocence like every other fan.

http://www.jlaff.com/

by JLaff on Aug 6, 2007 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

QOTM
I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 6, 2007 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

:-) Perfect! Can they download it?

--'cuz I seem to have lost a fair amount of innocence right here on the intertubes.  

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 6, 2007 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But only available...

...for out-of-market teams.

by UncleLeo on Aug 6, 2007 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the green alternates

I don't see why we have to change them. I don't like sleeveless jerseys at all so I really really hope we don't get those, whatever color they may be. If they don't do the green I don't hate the black like many of you do... I would definitely prefer the black over any sleeveless/vest type thing. Or of course they could do throwback stuff, but it seems like more of a special occasion once in a while thing than a multiple times a week thing.

And I really hate John Lackey. Have some class. This part really pissed me off...

"They think we hit a rookie catcher and they throw at one of the best players on the planet?" Lackey said. "They think that’s going to go unnoticed? That’s just dumb. ... I don’t see how a 1-and-2 pitch to a rookie catcher correlates to throwing at an MVP on a team in the (pennant) race.

"It doesn’t surprise me from them. That’s all I’ll say."

How about you already took out our starting short stop and you came really close to taking out our starting catcher. So you're saying that if we hit Jeff Mathis in the face it wouldn't matter because he's a rookie and not the mighty Vlad? UGHHH And taking a shot at the whole A's organization was really classy. STFU. He is really lucky he doesn't have to bat. I doubt he would be saying this if both teams were NL and he had to step up to the plate. I'd have no shame applauding if we drilled him in the ribs.

"I never saw a hooligan I did like. They're like left-handed pitchers, they all have a screw loose somewhere." - The Asphalt Jungle

by drmmerchk on Aug 6, 2007 2:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

HOT Unis?

Considering the advances in fiber technology (the kind that goes on your back, not into your gut and out your, well....), it's always seemed strange to me that some teams, our A's among them, wear dark uniforms (dark green for us) on warm, sunny days.  I can see wearing them at night, but don't they soak up the hot sun on sunny days, leading to being literally HOT and possible affecting play?  Has anyone ever tracked this?  Do we lose day games when we wear our dark green uniforms?

Anyway, I like the uniforms just the way they are.  I do not think we should go back to gold---they added a carnival atmosphere that was appropriate then, but not now.  

"It's a cookbook!"---The Twilight Zone

by Buck18 on Aug 6, 2007 2:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I want more carnival atmosphere

and quite frankly, when I think of carnivals, I think of midgets.

Look up the lifetime combined OBP of all MLB players under 4 feet tall.  It's 1.000 !

Y'all can put away that talk of nine Scott Hattebergs.  I want nine Eddie Gaedels!

"We are all gods. You can never underestimate the creative potential of a human being. Nor the destructive potential."- Robert Pollard, GbV

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Aug 6, 2007 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give me a chance to duck

I know many (most?) ANers like the white shoes. I dislike the look. They were an interesting 60's fashion statement when Namath introduced them to football. Now I see either: old men in Miami Beach whose wives pick out their clothes or the kids, who when I was growing up, whose parents would not buy them baseball shoes and had to wear their white Keds, or Converse, with their baseball unis.

by NoeValley on Aug 6, 2007 3:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

DUCK!

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 6, 2007 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been arguing for green shoes lately,

but what I mean even more than that is

"no black shoes!"

black shoes in baseball are for the other clubs, not us.

"We are all gods. You can never underestimate the creative potential of a human being. Nor the destructive potential."- Robert Pollard, GbV

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Aug 6, 2007 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

speaking of maintaining one's innocence ...

... I'm going to pretend that's a tin of Badger Balm or Burt's Bees in Swisher's pocket.

I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 6, 2007 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I did not know better

...I would assume this is photo from a beer league softball game.

by NoeValley on Aug 6, 2007 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

uniforms

In anticipation of a new stadium...go back to the royal blue of the Philadelphia A's with the "A's" logo on the front (similar to Detroit's Olde English D).  Ditch the green and gold and white shoes.  That 70's Show is over.

by jschreib59 on Aug 6, 2007 4:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

seconded
I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Aug 6, 2007 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not thirded, but...

that would be a hell of a move, abandoning the colors the team has worn for the last 45 years...

I'm an extreme person who dislikes the mushy middle.

I either want a whole crapload of alternate unis, or to go back to the 1930's design, slightly updated ("A's" instead of "A") in blue.

Either way, I'm not going to buy any merch, so my opinion probably doesn't matter much.

"We are all gods. You can never underestimate the creative potential of a human being. Nor the destructive potential."- Robert Pollard, GbV

by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Aug 6, 2007 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

John Lackey is a hack

He always has been, always will be. He expects to be able to throw at whomever he wants and then whines to the media when other teams have enough balls to retaliate. I hope he goes to the NL someday, and somebody puts him on his ass.

As for the uniforms, any departure from green and gold would be stupid. Those are our colors, and there's a pretty rich history behind them now.

I don't mean any offense, but the ideas that call for using black, which isn't one of our colors, or going back to the Philly A's colors, are terrible to me. Why be another faceless, characterless organization using red or blue or something, like, well, like the Angels.

Green IS the Athletics. It should stay that way. It's our color, and it's a damn good one.

RagingHarden: Yeah if you get 20 starts out of me I'll be shocked. Like, I'll wreck my drawers.

by walk off bunt on Aug 6, 2007 5:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

In favor of one thing retro...

...bring back the ballgirls in "hot pants".  :-)

by UncleLeo on Aug 6, 2007 6:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Black jerseys ..

Make the A's look like beer league softball players.  If the A's insist on wearing black jersey's then they should put a keg out at 2nd and everyone who makes it to second should be required to take a pull off the keg.

If we have to have a colored alternate jersey then it should be yellow with the large "A".  

As to the shoe color, it has to be white.

by skwid on Aug 7, 2007 8:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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