Classic Lineup Success
Today, the leadoff guy set the table extremely well, the guy in the #2 slot was self-sacrificing, and the big-name #3 guy just kept fouling off pitch after pitch until he got a hanger he could drive.
Oh, wait, this is the game wrap -- I thought for a second I was supposed to wrap up the pregame AN Day IV Q&A with Blez introducing Ken Korach and Billy Beane. My bad.
In a different type of "classic" result, today was the flip side of the good luck the Angels have enjoyed all season. Yes, today was classic third millennium Angels baseball: lots of meaningless dink hits by impatient batters, a good start ruined by lousy fielding and poor defensive positioning (WTF was Willits playing Buck so far off the line for?), and Vlad going all-or-nothing (and getting ... nothing; whew!).
Blanton wasn't exactly mesmerizing today, but he was effective in pitching to mostly harmless contact.
The A's hitters were patient. Really patient (7 walks). To the point, mostly, of even less harmful contact.
As the game went on, though, the starting pitchers went in divergent directions, Blanton getting stronger and Escobar wearing down and losing his feel for the strike zone. Street came on and was effective, and then Embree came in for an entirely uneventful ninth in nailing down the save.
This was the sort of game that ultimately demonstrated the superiority of Beane's management philosophy, with the A's staying close and enjoying not only the good fortune of Escobar's muff of the back end of Swisher's GIFC, but of having put themselves in position, by dint of their patience, to enjoy the fruits of Escobar's error and the Angels' odd decision to have Willits positioned well off the RF line for Buck's AB the next inning.
(Speaking of the ball hit by Swisher in that situation, salb918 and I had a devil of a time figuring out just who, exactly, should be granted clutch points for the clutchy clutchiness of that play.)
As for all the off-field AN Day IV hoo-hah, I think I can, on the basis of limited, anecdotal, and nonsignificant data, extrapolate that an outstanding time was had by all! Beane was his usual charming, deflective self, Korach was the epitome of grace and dignity, and Blez and baseballgirl did an awesome job putting the whole thing together.
Speaking on behalf of my won experience, it was a great opportunity to catch up with some RAF regulars, and to meet a whole slew of NRAF regulars (being so irregular myself, it made for a nice change of pace).
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I had a lot of fun today too!
by mlleaimee on Aug 4, 2007 7:04 PM PDT reply actions
Does this mean
Billy didn't open up and let out all the juicy details concerning the departure of one Milton Bradley?
Shoot.
He wishes Milton well.
He didn't take the opportunity to take "May God bless and keep Milton Bradley............far away from my clubhouse".
Definitely fun times!
It was great to meet those of you I met! Korach has a beautiful voice -- perhaps I'm stating the obvious, but I was kind of floored that it sounded like that just naturally, even without a carefully eq'd amplification system. Beane was skinnier than I'd expected. The game, honestly, was kind of boring there for a while, but in a way that was a good thing because it gave us more time to talk. And the result was great, of course!
Many thanks to the AN leadership council for putting this together.
Beane did look thin, didn't he?
As for the game, I didn't even realize it was the 7th inning stretch until everyone around me stood up and started singing "Take me out to the ballgame".
I am bummed that I didn't get to go to AN
day. I was at the game last year but not as a member of the AN fan contingent. I will not miss the next one. What's worse, my original plans for today were changed and I ended up in Bakersfield listening to the Angels broadcast of the game on the radio. At least I got to hear it.
So what did Mr. Bean have to say? Anything of note about how the season is progressing? Any hints of changes in the composition of the team next season?
Beane on the season...
Worst year in the injury department ever. Been a struggle. Blah blah blah.
He did get a bit defensive when asked about the medical and training staffs.
Barry just tied Hank
The whole stadium was up on their feet and cheering.
by mlleaimee on Aug 4, 2007 7:37 PM PDT reply actions
Ah America...
And her strange relationship with her "hero's". Congratulations Mr. Bonds. No matter what one thinks of him personally, it's an amazing accomplishment. I am happy that the good fans of San Diego recognize a truly historic moment and gave him accolades respectful of his achievement.
He's not my hero
But I think the accomplishment is outstanding. I'm glad that it happened in San Diego and not LA anyway. I'm not sure he would have gotten the respect that he deserved. (and I know there is going to be a tangent on the steriods but its a beaten horse and soon A-Rod will beat the number and we can all go on to our happy lives)
by mlleaimee on Aug 4, 2007 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say he's my hero either...
I rather doubt anyone playing a game is worthy of such a title. On the other hand, the kids really love them. I would imagine the fans of SD were applauding the achievement, if not the man. The steroids issue is truly a beaten horse. I wonder if the day will come when we all wax nostalgic for the good old days of simple chemical enhancement only. Gene doping, genetic engineering and other sciences we can only dream of today may prove to much for our purist notions of today.
We had a great time, thanks!
Loved the batter-up segment by Beane & Korach. Can't believe how many words Billy uses when he doesn't answer a question. I continue to be a loyal fan of Ken Korach and that mellifluous voice.
And I was AMAZED at what a fine view of the field those cheap seats gave us! Wow!
Excellant Day at the Ballpark
Despite being little more than a lurker, arriving late and having to go to my option B compananion after another friend who lurks here had to go out of town, I had a wonderful time and felt very much included.
Leading up to the event, there was alot of uncertainty for me. I ultimately found myself inviting my father, a Boston born Red Sox fan, someone nearly oblivious to the internet and also someone who is rarely on time. Although I had planned to arrive around 11:30, my father was ill prepared when we were to leave and didn't understand the importance of arriving early. We ultimately showed up around 12:05, missed belt buckles and had to ask where everyone had gone(I did not want to miss the special guests). I never did get around to asking for a name tag after this, but its not as if I would have been recognized.
From there, I had a great time. Although standing in the back of the Q+A made it alittle difficult to hear and I had to answer "Who are these guys?" by someone who walked up(admittedly I kind of snapped out an answer of suprise to him), I was impressed by by the well phrased questions and entertaining answers.
When we made our way to the seats after grabbing some food at the tail end of the BBQ, I had to quickly convince my father to sit someplace other than where are seats were to allow the midwest contingent to sit together. From there on, in addition to the enjoyable game, I thoroughly enjoyed the banter of the upper corner of section 235. InBillyWeTrust, a gentleman who sounded as if he was quite the wiffleball stud, the Nebraksans and others made it feel as if it was like a live open game thread.
By the end of the day, I had one heck of a sunburn (I should have worn a shirt on my hand like the gentleman next to me) but it was worth it for the great game and great sense of community.
Thanks very much for putting this all together.
had a great time...
thanks to baseballgirl and anyone else who put it together, though my wife Jacquie was pretty surprised when what looked like the Italian sausages turned out to be the red-hots. Have to say, though, I didn't come away feeling warm and fuzzy about Billy Beane's evasions.
nice win on a day when they were dominated by the opposing pitcher, starting in the sixth at least they could work him for walks. Blanton was tough. the A's look like a good team again after an awful July, probably too late to get back in it but that's still a benefit. Maybe we do get the ninth straight year over .500.
Regarding Beane's answers to questions
You guys gotta remember, everything Beane does get dissected ad nauseum here, and by some very intelligent, good writers and thinkers.
Now, what would SueSlu, et al, think, if AN scribes were to scoop the beat writers, AP, ESPN, and MLB.com on Milton Bradley, or any other topic???
No, Beane knows that the pre-game AN pow wow was a very public forum, with possible consequences more deadly than any typical website. However, he had the presumption that he could talk without talking specifics. Is that ego? In a sense, but you don't get to that level without a proficient ego.
by One won lost won on Aug 4, 2007 8:59 PM PDT reply actions
I was under the impression that
upon seeing my earnest face and irresistable smile, Billy would break all the team and league rules and would freely let us all in on secrets generally available only to insiders.
I was, naturally, disappointed. :-(
It's all your fault, Nico
For not being earnest and irresistable enough.
Only now do I see
the importance of being Ernest.
Borg 9
Federation 0
Just FINALLY got home
after the game and some post-game beers with some RAFs and the Midwest-AN-crew and then dinner with a friend (who is signing up on AN TONIGHT!) and just have to say that I had a great time! Thanks baseballgirl and all the AN front page crew for organizing! I wish I could have met more of you but I guess we will leave that for future games!
good stuff
I hate the Angels.
A wonderful day
That really is the only way that I can describe today. It was a wonderful day, no matter how you quantify it.
For starters, interacting with all of you was a true pleasure. I probably shouldn't be surprised that so many ANers are just as warm and witty as you'd expect from reading their posts, but, well, I honestly kind of was. (This was only my second AN Day, three years removed from my first. Spending two consecutive summers back east will do that to ya.) But any feelings of novelty quickly wore off and I grew to just love the atmosphere of our crowd. It was great to hear the questions lobbed at Billy and Ken (whoever it was that confronted Billy about the medical staff - you rock my socks!) What's more, during the game itself, I was cracking up listening to people reminding Escobar that he was throwing a no-hitter. I'm probably getting a bit too maudlin for the site, but the fact is that you're all pretty damn great people and, well, that's cool to see. (Except for Pam's friend, Abby. Seriously, what's up with her allegiances? ;-))
As for the game itself, well I have to say that it was a bit more enthralling than it may have looked on TV. Oh sure I got up from time to time to take pictures of the coliseum's various nooks and cranies, but as the game wore on, I found myself increasingly drawn into its rhythm. It was definitely nerve-wracking for the first four innings that the A's hadn't managed a hit, but Escobar was accomodating enough with the walks that it always felt as if we had a chance to break through. Similarly, while he weebled and wobbled a lot in the first few innings, there's no doubt that Blanton found a groove. I was glad to see him pick up the win because he definitely earned it, even if it would have been nice to have him be in less danger in those early innings.
I also have to say that I was damn impressed with Huston today. I've always loved the guy's wind-up and follow-through (as I was happy to inform just about everyone seated around me) and his mechanics definitely seemed fine today. But more than that, his pitches were consistently in the low nineties and his location seemed equally solid. It could just be the Angels' hitters revealing their hacking ways, but I'll take the optimistic route and say that I think he's well on his way to regaining his groove.
And have I mentioned that AN's comprised of some seriously good folks? You might not think that a guy who sat through the game with a shirt draped over his head (yeah, that was me) would have a good time chilling with a guy whose screen-name just screams "Huston's a young guy and dammit, that makes me feel like an old guy." But you'd be wrong.
It was just a wonderful day. For all of those of you who were there, my thanks in helping make that so. For those of you of you unable to make it, I'll hope to see you next year.
Seriously.
I've been trying my damndest to convert her. I think you guys all helped though. Good to meet you Wes!
I certainly hope we helped
And it was great to meet you too, Pam. You two too. If that makes common sense as well as grammatical sense.
question
what was the question about the A's injuries?
In regards to the women who rocked your socks,
I would've loved to hear a follow up question to Billy after he stated that injuries are up league wide, and are not just an Oakland aberration; and find out what his thoughts and opinions are to why so many more players are getting hurt so much more this year compared to those past. However I was unable to get that question in, and I think that it may have simply been cleverly answered rather vaguely by Billy.
What really bugged me was that
in defending the medical staff Billy said, several times, "These guys have been here a long time," as if this was, in and of itself, evidence of competence. It isn't.
lol
Nico HATES billy beane
I wouldn't go that far
I may hate the way all the medical stuff is handled, but based on the rousing ovation that erupted when the question was posed to Billy, I think I'm hardly alone!
yea
i agree
It was a compelling question
There was something about the question, as well as the way that it was asked, that just made one want to cheer.
Aww, shucks
Thanks, guys. It's been a while since anyone has accused me of rocking their socks. ;)
I almost backed off on asking the question but I was getting impatient with the softballs being lobbed at Billy (good questions, just ignoring the elephant in the room), and I just had to do it.
I was glad the Bradley question got asked, even though I never for a moment expected anything approaching an answer.
The elephant in the room?
Stomper was there?! I missed him! ;)
He didn't say anything about Larry Davis
whom, I believe, we all have a problem with. He talked about Clarence (? I don't know his name, sorry) stretching the guys out and different conditioning stuff but no mention of Davis. I have to say that the woman who 'rocked the socks off' of pretty much everyone, approached the subject with guarded but timely language. She obviously thought a bit about the whole thing before adding her two cents. (My two cents would have been 'Why does Larry Davis still work here when he obviously doesn't know f all about what he is doing. I mean, he would tell Harden to 'walk it off' fer chrissake.)O
by mlleaimee on Aug 5, 2007 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, I did
I thought a lot about how to phrase the question so as to maximize the possibility of getting an informative answer. Whether I succeeded is another question....
And he did mention Larry Davis, very much in passing, as just another one of the long-tenured excellent training staff. I did try to point out to him that "being there a long time" doesn't necessarily mean you're good at it, but he wasn't buying.
I must have missed the Larry Davis thing
by mlleaimee on Aug 5, 2007 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
You were a seat to my left
I should have stolen your shirt anti sunburn preventative measure. I look like a lobster at this point.
as salb918, grover, and xbhaskarx can attest
... I am in fact the whitest AN member (ok, that doesn't sound right; no, they can't attest to that) and I was looking even whiter than usual yesterday due to my copious and regular reapplication of zinc oxide. I'm not a dermatologist, but Clarins SPF 30 for kids mineral-only sunblock ROOLZ. As does Solumbra Sun Precautions gear (I recommend the latter highly to my fellow lobsterians).
OK, so all you guys who got sunburns: is Larry Davis advising you on preventive sun protection? ;)
I should have known better
Davis told me as long as I stayed in my seat the sun's rays wouldn't reach me.
Now my knees are bright red and killing me.
by the way...
Lew, if you're listening... you made the right decision to come to Fremont. I saw more A's gear at the Arts and Wine Festival today than there probably was at AN Day.
And, these people had no reason to be wearing the GnG, 'cept they love them A's.
You'd never see that anywhere in Oakland. Sorry, FSU, you just wouldn't.
What's up with these fans just a few miles away
not coming to a weekend game against our biggest rival on a beautiful day? Or was it that they just missed this game in particular because of the art and wine festivities?
had the tickets.... had to cancel....
for business reasons. But, we'll see how may Oakland folks make it down to Cisco the next 3 decades, like I've made it up to the Coli the previous three. Should be interesting.
by FoolshGame22 on Aug 4, 2007 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
how many, even
by FoolshGame22 on Aug 4, 2007 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
When they do the montage before the pregame
what will they show? Stripmalls and churches? Booo Fremont.
by mlleaimee on Aug 5, 2007 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh and on a sidenote...
And in a blatant quote of the month attempt, I realized walking into the coliseum this morning that a few lines from "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" could be transformed into a tribute to AN's newest hero. (I blame this line of thoughts on my reading Monkeyball's latest sonnet mere minutes before catching BART to get to the game. Not "the BART." Just BART.) After seeing this hero deliver victory yet again, I knew that what I had, in fact, experienced was a prophecy of the highest order. I share it with all of you because...well, because I'm geeky that way.
I heard that you were feeling ill
Headache, fever, and a chill
I came to help restore your pluck
Because I...am Travis Buck!
Because I'm the outfielder named
Travis Buck. You have to keep with the meter or it doesn't work.
by mlleaimee on Aug 5, 2007 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Another nerdy thing to say would be
We're ze A's and we're here to Buck (clap) you up!
by mlleaimee on Aug 5, 2007 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I made a few notes during the Q & A
Although I didn't start until part way through.
Someone asked about injuries and whether the team was considering a change in direction as far as how to prevent and treat them. Billy said it was a concern, but that injuries were up throughout the major leagues -- he'd talked to Brian Cashman about it earlier in the season. He expressed respect and confidence in the medical team, said these guys were great doctors. He did say that he had been talking to Clarence (Cockrell, strength and conditioning coordinator) about their off-season work program. If I remember correctly, I don't believe that he actually mentioned Larry Davis by name....but I might be wrong and I might be reading too much into that.
A question related to the 24/7 nature of today's sports media. KenKo said it certainly had changed in recent years, and that Bill King in his last few years had really tried very hard to keep up with the news cycle, trying to read as much as possible, keep tabs on every development that the listeners might want to know. Whereas he, Ken. felt it was also important to know when to stop reading and researching.
Someone asked what was best and worst about their jobs. Billy and Ken had similar answers: the best parts were getting to come to the park every day and working with their colleagues; the worst thing was all the travel.
Someone asked Billy a question to the effect that if the rationale for moving to Fremont was in part that increased revenues would make it possible for the team to re-sign guys who now become free agents and leave...would this really be a good idea, given that so many players like Giambi, Tejada, and Mulder have left as free agents and never regained the level of success they had with the A's. Needless to say, Billy didn't agree with the premise of this question.
Someone asked about the new signing procedure for draft picks. Billy said it's new; hasn't happened yet; so ask me next year.
Ken had a question about radio vs. TV. He said radio is a more creative medium (which is indisputably true -- trust me, I'm a radio producer so I know:) ) and better suited to baseball, and that he's better at radio than he is at TV. He had a question about improving the TV schedule, and said there really wasn't much to be done right now but that they thought next year when Comcast takes over FSBA there might be a chance for more A's games on TV. Billy also said the increase in 6:05 Saturday games this year was partly since those could be televised and 1:05 games could not.
Someone had an exchange with Billy which I couldn't hear about a punk band.
And Billy said "I wish Milton well".
Blez also hinted that there are some exciting new features coming to the site around the end of the season. (The end of the REGULAR season, I should say, since I haven't given up!)
It was a great game and I had a wonderful time seeing everyone. As I mentioned to a few people, I'm contemplating becoming an NRAF -- I have a job interview on the East Coast next week -- and it's reassuring to meet so many people who have sustained their commitment to the team even thought they don't live here.
I must not have heard the question about the band
Because in light of Bradley's comments, I really wanted to ask Beane if he had popped in his Ramones CD's this morning and would have died laughing if I heard heard someone else make a similar quip.
Guided by Voices
was the band he was talking about and I wouldn't call them punk exactly. One of their songs can be found on the Buffy the Vampire Slayer compilation album. I think that one of their albums was produced by the lead singer of the Cars, Rik Okasik (not sure of the spelling). One of the memebers of the band was a teacher (which interested me as I'm a rock chick teacher) and there was some mention of some other band I'm not familiar with. Guided By Voices is actually a really interesting band. My taste is more in the Brit variety of music but GBV has a great music and interesting lyrics.
by mlleaimee on Aug 5, 2007 1:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, cool
I couldn't really hear more than three words of the question or the answer -- I think we need microphones next year -- so I was hypothesizing that it was a punk band. I'll check them out.
Thanks for the recap, EM
Did no one ask BB about signing bonuses or payroll budgeting then?
Or is it only us wonky accountant types who care about that sort of thing?
sal was going to ask that question ...
... but then he remembered that he hates you, so he kept it in his pocket out of spite.
Signing bonuses = Yes
Nebraska did, Beane said that since this is the first year of having to play with the slot recommendations that he'd prefer to answer the question after August 15th (meaning next year's event).
Budget... the implication was that he'd like the option of keeping his own players in the future. But no dollar figures were mentioned.
Has anyone obtained a copy
of the actual slot figures? Just so we have something to compare announced bonuses to.
BA has a page
They cover the first 5 rounds. It's in the subscriber section.
You guys had a good time?
Wow. I basically hated all of you. To each his own, I guess.
Confirmation bias
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Aug 5, 2007 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Did it hurt your neck having to
look up at all of us? That could put any 5'2"er in a grumpy mood.
Seeing you in character as Cindi -
complete in drag - really put me in a foul mood.
BTW, I loved your question -- and Beane's answer.
That was Blez,
and he wasn't in drag.
Thanks--Billy gave me a far more detailed and specific answer than I was expecting. No actually, I was so charmed by his charming charm that I didn't notice whether or not he actually answered the question.

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