Comerica Park
I have gone to the last two games against Detroit at Comerica, and I'm going to the next two as well ...
Thoughts:
- This is the best park in the majors that I have been to. It's beautiful, spacious and clean. The nighttime skyline of downtown Detroit is beautiful, second only to the view of the Rocky Mountains at Coors Field. Parking right across the street from the stadium? $10. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that sign. Capacity is about 40k, and while the fans are sort of lame in the sense you can tell most of them haven't followed baseball in 20 years (until last year, at least), they're easy-going and fun to interact with.
- Mark Kotsay is a waste of space in this line-up. Whatever bonus his arm in centerfield provides, it's the only positive thing about his game. He costs too much, he's overmatched at the plater in almost every AB, he's the slowest CF baserunner I think I have ever seen (he got caught in a run down Friday night, but escaped only because the Tiger pitcher -- a rookie -- didn't cover third base in the rundown wheel), and there are better options sitting on the bench. I would much rather see Swisher in CF and DJ at first base, for example. Kotsay's .599 OPS in more than 200 plate appearances is just not acceptable, no matter how someone thinks his defense helps. He really needs to be traded (yeah, right) or waived. He is worthless.
- Swisher really misses Thomas (or something from last year). After hitting 35 HRs last year, he's got 14 in mid-August? Maybe it was his hair. But the point is (again), there is just no one in this line-up to fear, so why pitch to Swisher if you don't have to? The A's need a serious thumper in this line-up, and without one, there will be no playoffs any time soon. It's a Punch-and-Judy line-up, for the most part, even if they did score 16 runs Friday night. That's an anomaly, until it happens regularly and becomes a pattern.
- I like what little I have seen of Donnie Murphy. His arm looks strong, his bat looks good enough for now, and he's not Bobby Crosby. He's only 24, and in 60 ABs this year, he's put up an .818 OPS. Yes, these numbers are way above his career stats so far, but he only had 91 ABs in KC prior to this. Give him a shot at the shortstop position.
- I am still not sure what to make of Jack Cust. At best, he's a poor man's Adam Dunn, but I don't even think he's that good. I think there's a reason he's 28 and playing for his fifth different team in the majors already. Either way, since he's strictly a DH, I don't think you can "plan" around him for the future, but he's probably useful enough to keep on the roster. Depending on how Barton does in the near future, Cust will probably stick ... but I am not sold on him yet. The seven RBI on Friday night were nice, especially after Blanton blew the lead so easily (weak mental effort, Joe, even if it was hot and humid -- you are from the South!).
- Blanton and Haren both seemed to suffer from the manager's decisions not to lift them at opportune times. I understood Geren's decisions, but considering it's August, you have to be in better command of your team at this point. I know the playoffs are out of reach, but you can still play for .500 -- then again, with the A's bullpen, maybe it's better to leave the starters in too long. This is a hard team to manage right now, and I personally don't have any gripes with Geren this season. Sure, he's another Howe/Macha-type Beane seems to favor (I have no idea why, especially when you see Jim Leyland on the other side -- why don't the A's ever hire a good manager?); eventually, that will be his undoing here in Oakland. Beane might need to check his ego and either manage the team himself or hire a real manager to get this team to the World Series.
- Between Bowen and Suzuki, the catching spot seems to be fine. You don't expect much from rookie catchers, so I don't mind them playing the next seven weeks and showing what they have (or don't have).
- Obviously, Chavez isn't playing right now, but the A's might seriously try to trade him in the off-season. New York will be looking for a third baseman, perhaps, and the last time the A's sent them one (Brosius), it worked out well for them. Maybe we can get them to take Loaiza and Kotsay, too. Chavez just isn't worth his salary, even as a defensive wizard (I will say it right now: there will be no Gold Glove for Chavez this year. Mike Lowell will be winning it). It's well-past time to admit the A's kept the wrong player when they decided to let Tejada walk.
- I was impressed with the team's effort Friday night; after Blanton coughed up a SEVEN-RUN lead, I thought they were done. Saturday night was a different story. When they had the first two guys on and no outs in the 7th inning, down by a run -- that's a situation where you must score a run to tie the game. But instead of moving the runners over, Cust struck out. Ellis then flied out, and Scutaro struck out. In this situation, you must score. The A's didn't, and that's why they're five games under .500 with one of the most anemic offenses in the majors. The Tigers are reeling right now, and the A's let (another) game slip away. You guys know I harp on these little things, but these lost opportunities add up over the course of the season, and here and there you can get away with it. But not when it's a regular pattern. This organization has to start stressing fundamentals and run manufacturing more thoroughly from top to bottom. If they are going to insist on a shoestring budget (more on that later), you have to stress the little things. Teachers cost less than players: hire some good teachers for once, Billy!
- I like Travis Buck a lot. I think he needs to stick. Stewart is fine for the most part; Swisher in CF makes the most sense right now, and you have a decent OF. Not great, but passable. Infield? The A's need a new 3B, but with Murphy at SS, Ellis at 2B and Johnson at 1B, you're doing another passable job. Only time will tell if you need a new catcher for 2008. But again, passable isn't going to cut it when you only have 40% of a rotation (if that) and decimated bullpen. The A's need more than they have in the organization right now. I am sick of the A's low-payroll mantra. It's lame, and it hasn't won a World Series. The organization has owners with deep pockets, and there's just no more room for this "wear our poverty like a badge of honor" crap. I hate to say it again, but the A's had home field advantage in the ALCS last year and have gone in full reverse since. Losing Zito was no big deal; he wasn't going to help this team any more than Joe Kennedy. His effort with the Giants proves that. Losing Thomas was a big deal; relying on the laughable Kendall/Kotsay/Crosby trio was a mistake; signing Piazza didn't work out so well. Injuries have taken their toll, for sure, but this team is going backwards. The owners have to start spending money; no, money doesn't guarantee anything, but smart spending can help the A's. No spending at all isn't going to help them. The A's don't need to become the Yankees or the Angels, but they can step up a bracket in the salary tiers and re-build this team for 2008. Sign a stud hitter; sign a stud pitcher. Then fill in the gaps with the usual conservative small-spending options. But this is no way to keep/build a fan base for a move into a new stadium. Losing doesn't fill seats in a new stadium. Ask the Tigers; it took them six seasons to figure that one out.
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some really good observations
the payroll this season is close to $80 million, which if used wisely should field a better team than the 2007 A's (yeah, I know, payments due to veterans who had seen better years, etc, etc). But most importantly, the minor league system needs lots of work. Also, I agree that the coaching (and training) staffs might need upgrades. But the bottom line is enough good talent.
The payroll really started ...
at about $72m after subtracting the $5m the Pirates were paying Kendall to play for us. At this point, after subtracting Kendall, Bradley, Kennedy it's probably closer to $70m.
2007 opening day A's payroll (25-man roster)
* Opening Day payrolls for 25-man roster
(salaries plus pro-rated signing bonuses):
o 2007: $ 79,366,940 *
o 2006: $ 62,242,079
o 2005: $ 55,425,762
o 2004: $ 59,425,667
o 2003: $ 50,260,834
o 2002: $ 40,004,167
o 2001: $ 33,810,750
o 2000: $ 32,121,833
* * 2007 payroll obligations for former players:
o $ 1,500,000 (Jay Witasick)
o $ 1,360,929 (Milton Bradley)
o $ 4,541,257 (Jason Kendall)
* * Payments from other clubs
o $ 5,500,000 (Jason Kendall)
Ok ...
so it was:
79.3
(-) 5.5 from Pitt
73.8
(-) ~2 saved from Bradley, Kendall, Kennedy
=~72m
So they were really paying 74m, not 72 -- but still closer to 70 than 80.
ESPN has the A's at $79+ million
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/...
I've no doubt that the figures look different after getting rid of players and salary paid by former teams, and I'm sure that the payrolls of other teams get shifted up and down as well. The 2007 payroll list has Oakland #16 out of 30 teams, which puts it in the middle of the pack, not really a "low payroll" team, as we are accustomed to thinking.
The point I wanted to make was that at least at face value the A's payroll should pay for a better team than we've seen this season.
Check this out ...
The A's have pretty much done what you'd except.
interesting and also cool
so the A's are only moderately throwing away money? That seems about right.
Chavez
I don't see how the A's can trade Chavez in the off-season as he is injured and has been for the past 2 seasons. I've finally realized that he isn't declining so much as suffering from chronic injuries (though granted, there is his tendency to not come through at the plate when we really need it). I just can't see why another team would trade anything of value for a chronically injured 3rd baseman making, what, $8 million a year? I hope he gets surgery or begins a new regime or whatever it takes for him to get healthy. Because when Chavez is healthy, the A's are a better team.
by Bubba on Aug 12, 2007 10:20 AM PDT reply actions
One thing you can add to this list...
I feel exactly the same way you do McP on all the points you bring up. Another one I think we can agree on is:
Overall, I think Beane has over-emphasized pitching-and-defense to a tragic fault...I mean, when guys like Crosby, Kotsay and Kendall (who have cumulatively brought absolutely nothing of value to this team offensively for several years now) are earning close to 1/4 of your total payroll, you know your team's priorities are totally screwed.
If Beane does not realize that this team needs at least one professional hitter (i.e. a guy who can execute the hit-and-run, hit behind the runner, bunt for a base hit occasionally, move the runner over with less than two outs, get a sacrifice fly, etc;) than this team's offense will ALWAYS be frustrating and inconsistent.
Trade a starter and get a bat. That's the only thing I see making this team better this off-season. THere are no great FA options, and frankly, even if there were, I don't trust Beane with spending any more money than I have in my bank account...his track record with pricey free agents is disastrous, at best.
Kendall and Kotsay ...
are both "professional hitters" ... they just aren't good hitters.
The problem is not a lack of "professional" hitters, it's a lack of "good" hitters.
Thoughts ...
- What other parks have you been to? I haven't been to any of the midwest/rust belt parks -- and, supposedly some of the finest are there. My favorites are Petco and Fenway.
- Kotsay is done, no question -- but we don't have a healthy internal option to replace him. Perhaps Denorfia will be the answer, but he's not available at this point. I'd rather not force Swisher to spend too much time working on his CF defense and let him focus on his hitting. We're not going anywhere in 2007. If we play him, we might even get lucky and Kotsay could get hot and trick some team into trading for him in the offseason.
- He's definitely walking a ton. Though, no, in case anyone is getting any ideas, we should not have resigned Thomas. He has not provided the production that he did last year.
- At this point, BP has his defense at one run below average. If he can keep up that defense, he'll continue to be a solid option.
- Cust leads the team in OBP and SLG (by a huge margin) and to this point, he's been able to keep his Avg in the acceptable range. He's not going to be a HOFer but he's doing a pretty good Frank Thomas in 2006 impersonation.
- I'll pass.
- I can't imagine we'd be able to move him at this point without keeping a chunk of his salary. That would be a mistake.
It was not a mistake to keep Chavez over Tejada. It was a smart risk that has not paid off. It also has not worked out that bad badly, since Tejada's contract pays him about an extra $10m in inflation adjusted dollars over Chavez'.
- You want your best hitter to bunt? That's a bad idea.
- Travis Buck has stuck. Aside from any rehab appearances, he'll never play another minor league game. Stewart also needs to play everyday to lock up his compensation status. Swisher's not a CF -- playing him there will just slow his development with the bat.
This is a business and Wolffisher will continue to run it as such. They are going to spend as much money as makes sense and not a penny more.
Cust
He's not going to be a HOFer but he's doing a pretty good Frank Thomas in 2006 impersonation.
Frank 2006 - 270/381/545
Cust 2007 - 265/400/530
If the goal is winning games in 2007, there is no reason Cust should not be in the lineup for this team every single day.
Of course I'm not so sure this is the goal anymore. The only reason Piazza would ever play over Cust is hoping he is a Type A/B FA this offseason.
A Few Thoughts On A Quality Diary
- Comerica is a very good park, but not one of my favorites. I've been to 28 out of 30, and this one ranks in the top 10. Wrigley is my number one because of its atmosphere, tradition, park quality (despite age), and great fans. Fenway is my second favorite because of the experience on Yawkey Way, rabid fan base, and unmatched tradition. It only lacks the quality of the park at Wrigley. There's a large gap between these two and the next group (Yankees, Phonebooth, PNC, Safeco) in my mind.
On a side note, does Comerica still have that hot dog vendor with the great voice that says, "Lets go Tigers, hot dogs here?" My favorite ballpark vendors have got to be Wrigley, US Cellular, Shea, and Comerica.
- I agree with you on Kotsay. However, how much of his ineptitude can be attributed to lack of Spring Training? I don't really know the answer.
- Yeah, I'm with you on the lack of punch in the lineup.
- I don't know if it's Murphy who should be our SS, but at this point, it seems pretty clear that it is not Crosby. That is part of the reason I was disappointed the trade with the Dodgers did not go through because I really like Hu and was surprised he seemed to be available. Whether this is true is impossible for us to know, but I think that deal could have been a good one even without Kershaw involved, which never was going to happen.
- I would keep Cust on the roster and in the lineup every day, he's the best hitter on the roster right now.
- I think Geren has been great this year in terms of managing pitchers, but I did not see the Haren/Blanton games, so I cannot comment on your views of them.
- I like a Brown/Suzuki pairing at catcher at the present time in order to evaluate their prospects for the future. Anything is better than Kendall.
- I doubt that anybody will take Chavy off of our hands unless we give them serious money in the deal. I hope we let him sit out until his back, arms, and whole body get as healthy as can be because his offensive mediocrity the last two years has not lived up to his salary, and it's killing this team.
- I think more than teaching they just need some talented players. Also, the amount of injuries the last two years is asinine at this point, some steps need to be taken.
- We can only home the new stadium will allow for more spending, but the biggest problem with the A's right now is the lack of talent coming from the draft process. Since 2002, the returns have been very thin on major league impact. 2003 was a complete washout, 2004 was barren except Street, 2005 has provided little return outside of Buck, and 2006 does not really entice me to believe we have any good or great players coming from that draft class, although it is still early for them. The drafting lately has been decidedly average unfortunately, and I believe that is the greatest problem with the Oakland Athletics right now.
Thank you for your time and I appreciate any comments you may have on my thoughts.
by Roscoe Parrish on Aug 12, 2007 12:18 PM PDT reply actions
I not saying that the A's have been great
at drafting in recent years, but really are there all that many teams in recent years that have produced a better group than Blanton, Swisher, Street, Ethier, Buck?
Crap like Kotsay and Kendall were not drafted. Neither was Loaiza. Neither was Piazza.
Now this is a good diary, McP!
I really enjoyed reading your observations with the exception of #5. I'm not quite sure how anyone doesn't think Cust is anything short of incredible when considering his overall statistics. Put some weapons around Cust and you'll quickly change your tune. He is not the kind of person who can carry a team (although he has at times) but with protection he might be the poster boy for Moneyball philosophy.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Aug 12, 2007 1:58 PM PDT reply actions
Okay here goes.
I am still not sure what to make of Jack Cust. At best, he's a poor man's Adam Dunn, but I don't even think he's that good. I think there's a reason he's 28 and playing for his fifth different team in the majors already. Either way, since he's strictly a DH, I don't think you can "plan" around him for the future, but he's probably useful enough to keep on the roster. Depending on how Barton does in the near future, Cust will probably stick ... but I am not sold on him yet. The seven RBI on Friday night were nice, especially after Blanton blew the lead so easily (weak mental effort, Joe, even if it was hot and humid -- you are from the South!).
Why would you not be sure what to make of him at this point? He has an OBP of .397 and an OPS of over .923. If he played a full season he would probably reach 30 HR's and 100 RBI's. Look at Adam Dunn's statistics with an OBP of .361 and an OPS of .899. Maybe Adam Dunn is a poor man's Jack Cust?
He needs better hitters around him so you can "plan" around him, which is not in disagreement with him not being able to carry the team. What else does he have to do for people to be "sold" on him? I hope we can find a few more of him around because then our team could actually contend for the division.
I still like the diary and don't mean to nitpick but IM4Oakgal asked the question :-)
by ohtobe21likehuston on Aug 12, 2007 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
lol I get what you are saying
But the only way that Adam Dunn would be a "poor mans" Jack Cust, is if Adam Dunn's contract was less than Cust's which is not the case... That being said, I like the upside of Cust, and really think the could be a better offensive producer than Adam Dunn. Plus his glove is not as bad as oh say David Ortiz..... Ohh I said it didn't I... I like the Ortiz/Cust comparision.... Just give it time gentleman, you will see what im talking about.
Yeah I was obviously speaking in terms that were
not related to actual money. Cust has simply outperformed Dunn this year and, in relation to money, costs about 10 mil less this year.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Aug 13, 2007 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Let's compromise ...
the smart man's Adam Dunn ...
Gold Glove
I hope Adrian Beltre gets the Gold Glove for 3B this year. I think he deserves it more than Mike Lowell.
It definitely won't be Chavez, not after his hitting and playing time has fallen off so much. Really, he was lucky to get it last year, when the incumbency advantage is what broke what was essentially a four-way tie.
You never know
The Gold Glove voting is such a joke that I could still see him getting it.
by rubin sierra on Aug 12, 2007 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Trade Chavez to Yankees?
It's hard for me to imagine that Beane would do this. For all the talk of how heartless Beane is -- and in many circumstances it's true -- if a player has been around long enough that he feels like they're equals, he is very reluctant to send him somewhere he doesn't want to go. And there's no player in the organization Beane is closer to than Chavez.
A lot of players would be happy to play for the Yankees, but I really don't think Chavez is one of them. And if Chavez doesn't want to go to New York, it's hard to imagine that Beane would be cold enough to ship him there right before his 5-and-10 deadline comes. I think Chavez essentially already has a full no-trade clause with Beane, even if it isn't written in the contract.
Yeah
It might be tough for Chavvy to walk Beane's dog (or is it the other way around) from halfway across the country...
HEY!
For the record, they both have dogs.
by The Dogfather on Aug 12, 2007 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea and they both
Make their dogs wear gay little wool sweaters, as they both chill in a San Diego park and drink Starbucks, and talk about how Chemistry and a teams Manager have no effect on a team's win loss record....
Other way around
My recollection is that there's a clause in Chavez's contract that requires Beane to walk his dog when the team is out of town. I'm not sure if that's for real or just a joke between them; I can't find a cite on it either way.
If it's really in the contract, would the new GM have to assume the responsibility in any trade? Does Chavez consult with his dog during contract negotiations, as Ichiro does with Ikky? Inquiring minds want to know.
I'd like to picture Brian Cashman at dawn
with a fistful of a dozen leashes, dragging assorted ill-tempered beasts from apartments down Manhattan streets, quelling their fights, scooping their shit, every time the Yanks are on the road, as Giambi and A-Rod and Rivera all insist on the same deal that Chavvy's getting.
Funniest part is after that, when the dogs are walked and Cashman makes it to work with Big Stein...and figuratively does the exact same thing.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Aug 12, 2007 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you been to Petco?
Your comments in #1, I simply can't believe them if you tell me you have been there, cause that view is simply amazing!! I have not been to Detroit, but I have been to The Coli, SF, SafeCo, Petco, Shea, and Yankee, and Petco is by far and away the best out of those three!! This is just my opinion of couse, but the idea that the view in Detroit is better than SD, I am really going to be needing some convincing!!
by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Aug 13, 2007 11:18 AM PDT reply actions

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