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Morgan Ensberg DFA'd

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/s...

Ensberg used to be a good power hitter, but has really sucked the past two seasons.

Stats: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...

Lately, he has represented a Jack Cust type player, with a low average but a very large number of walks. But just 2 years ago he was an all star, with a line of 283/388/557. According to the article, he has never been the same since tearing a tendon in his shoulder.

The point is.. Is this a good guy to buy low on?

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I was about to post the same thing.

Problem is, where do you play him?

So it goes.

by jeepers on Jul 29, 2007 11:01 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm not sure either

If we brought him in, he'd be primarily for next year wouldn't he? He could DH if the A's are willing to have an outfield of Cust-Swisher-Buck with Barton at first and Ensberg DHing, while also having the ability to spell Chavez (finally, a good backup third baseman). As of this year, Ensberg is a much better hitter against lefties (OPS is 130 points higher), so he could be platooned.

The more I think about it, the more i like an acquisition of Ensberg. He's like Richie Sexson right now, except that he made around 4.5 million this year.

the problem is not "too many left handed hitters" but "too many suck handed hitters"-Zonis

by ohad on Jul 29, 2007 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we got Ensberg, I'd see him as our primary

backup at 3rd Base and First Base.

If DJ AND Piazza are traded, then I could see Ensburg DHing for us. But, if either one is retained, Barton is called up, and the other is the DH.

As for 2008, if he was cheap, he'd be our 3B and 1B Backup, but I'd see Snelling being our DH for the week or so that he'd be healthy.

by Zonis on Jul 29, 2007 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

His $4.3 million salary makes him unattractive...

for BB.  Other than that, I think he would be a good 1B/3B backup.  We could definitely use a backup at 3B.  Fits the typical A's mold and I'm not sure that mold works anymore

"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." Billy Beane

by athleticsBB4life on Jul 29, 2007 11:10 AM PDT reply actions  

typical A's mold

Isn't that the green fuzzy stuff DJ is covered with from sitting in the dank dugout for a week?

I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 29, 2007 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Danke.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jul 29, 2007 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ensberg

As of this year and last, he represents that low average/high walk player that the A's seem to be full of. On the other hand, if he was on the A's, he'd be one of the few players with potential for a big season. He's had some high average seasons along with the high OBP's, so we know he's capable. I'm hoping a change of scenery will bring him back to that. And as I showed with the splits above, he's also a good platoon candidate.

the problem is not "too many left handed hitters" but "too many suck handed hitters"-Zonis

by ohad on Jul 29, 2007 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

he's only signed through this year

Why in the world would we bother?

If he was signed through '08 or '09, sure, he'd be a great addition.

But to spend any money or talent to acquire him just for this year?

I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 29, 2007 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Depends if he clears waivers.

Then we're only on the hook for the league minimum.  I agree he's not worth trying to acquire via trade.

So it goes.

by jeepers on Jul 29, 2007 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, but still ...

... why even bother? There's no real reason for Beane to scratch and claw to keep from sinking below the Rangers.

I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 29, 2007 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

A lot of it depends on who the A's trade in the next couple of days.  

Also, I bet the Astros are resigned to paying most of his remaining salary in any trade.  Otherwise, he'll walk, they'll get nothing for him...and they'll still have to pay him.

So it goes.

by jeepers on Jul 29, 2007 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, if we trade Chavvy for A-Rod ...

... Ensberg would be a good backup.

I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 29, 2007 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

In that limited circumstance,

he'd provide a warm body to play out the string at third if Chavvy were shut down for the year.

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Jul 29, 2007 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

and the likelihood of the latter happening is ...
I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 29, 2007 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was under the impression

That he still had another year before free agency.

the problem is not "too many left handed hitters" but "too many suck handed hitters"-Zonis

by ohad on Jul 29, 2007 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cots sez he's on a 1-yr deal

Now, if he's signed through '08, and he can be acquired on the cheap, yeah.

Although ... do we really want another 3B with a damaged shoulder?

I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 29, 2007 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I could easily be wrong but...

When Cot's says he's on a one year deal, I think it means he avoided arby by signing that deal.  Cot's also says he had 4.095 service time (and I think that means at the beginning of this year), which would mean he would have one more year with the team he signs with.

I just checked Cot's future FA list and he is on the list for 2008-2009 not 2007-2008 so I'm pretty sure I'm right.  

As for picking Ensberg up, it would make a lot of sense if it meant trading Chavvy.  If we could trade Chavvy, Kotsay and Loaiza in the offseason, we would have a lot of money freed up (enough to pursue ARod?).  I'm all for that.  

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Jul 29, 2007 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

splits

Perhaps not surpisingly his splits show about 100 points higher slugging percentage at home than away the last 3 years.

by SA on Jul 29, 2007 11:24 AM PDT reply actions  

We don't need anymore declining 3rd baseman

we already have Chavez we don't need another

Go A's!!!! Mike Scioscia is a fat tub of lard

by 3Chavy3 on Jul 29, 2007 11:41 AM PDT reply actions  

if we were in contention

then he might make some sense given he's really a platoon player who hits LH's better than RH's, which is exactly what the A's need.  But, seeing as he'll be available as a FA in 2008, I wouldn't make any kind of trade to get him.

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Jul 29, 2007 2:36 PM PDT reply actions  

The DFA Route

The Ensberg DFA is a really interesting phenomenon, and ties in with the Kielty and Bradley DFAs. Because NOBODY is trading prospects worth anything these days, older players with mixed track records are being dumped without the guarantee of any return. I'm starting to wonder if we're seeing a new trend throughout baseball.

It wouldn't surprise me if DJ and Kennedy are DFA'd before the season is over.

by richwol on Jul 29, 2007 5:46 PM PDT reply actions  

On the surface....

picking up Ensberg cheap could be a great deal. He CAN hit, can play either corner position which makes him attractive esp if DJ is really going to be moved by the deadline.

The second I saw that he was DFA'ed my mouth started watering a bit.

Thus ends my first post here on "Athletics Nation".

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by BleedGreen on Jul 29, 2007 7:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Welcome!
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?

by baseb3383 on Jul 29, 2007 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

D'dFA.

Bastards, the lot of you.

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Jul 29, 2007 7:28 PM PDT reply actions  

D'anke.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jul 29, 2007 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

DudFA? Like Loaiza?
"He did a great job. It was hot." -- Bob Geren on Dan Haren

by oblique on Jul 29, 2007 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

what is that, Klingon?
I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 30, 2007 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why don't the A's and 'Stros
just swap Ensberg for Kielty? It would save everyone some time and trouble!

The reason to pick up Ensberg for 2008 would be Chavez-insurance. Now you have a 2-to-make-1 on talented injured declining 3Bmen. Plus, the A's don't have enough injured players. And I think Ensberg should meet Larry Davis.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 30, 2007 10:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Ensberg and Oswalt for

Keilty, Johnson, Crosby and Harden!

by BleedGreen on Jul 30, 2007 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

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