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Worst 5-through-9 hitting order in the major this year?

Probably tonight's A's lineup: Ellis, Kotsay, Scutaro, Crosby, Suzuki.

Star-divide

Seriously, Geren just doesn't get it, does he? Neither does Beane for that matter. Mark Ellis should never be hitting fifth in a major league lineup. Kotsay and Crosby shouldn't be in a major league lineup right now.

There is a reason this team is 47-52, and it's all about franchise management. Beane is letting us down; Wolff is letting us down. it's not about blind loyalty here; it's about expecting the ownership and the general manager to put a competitive team on the field, injuries or not. And this isn't it.

If I was Kelvim Escobar, I'd be laughing at this lineup. Maybe that's why he let the first three guys get hits, eh? :)

GO A'S!

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Yawn.

Yawn again.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 24, 2007 7:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, that's pretty much how I felt watching ...
Ellis strike out with a man on third and one out, followed by Kotsay grounding out to second.

Bases loaded, no outs? The A's get ONE run, because their five- and six-hitters have no business being where they are in the lineup. Fundamentals, indeed.

Yawn all you want -- maybe Beane and Geren will hear the yawns from the sparse crowds at the Coliseum and decide to do something about it.

Until then, we're stuck with the out-dated status quo of this team.

by McP on Jul 24, 2007 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

my gosh

how did you predict tonight's lineup?

I find your lack of Faith disturbing...

by rebus on Jul 24, 2007 7:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Can you just stop writing diaries?

This subject is getting old.  I think you've mentioned about 80 times in the past 2 weeks that you don't like Wolff, Geren, and Beane.  What DO you like about the A's?  Anything at all?  Uniform colors?  Stomper?  Larry Davis' incredible mustache?

Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?

by baseb3383 on Jul 24, 2007 7:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm sorry for being honest.

I guess you like being 10.5 games out of first place.

I don't, and I'm not going to defend mediocrity.

I'll just pretend the A's are good like everyone else does, and just blame it all on injuries.

Bye.

by McP on Jul 24, 2007 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could write something original,

rather than stating the obvious. What were you hoping for tonight, Jack Cust at 2B? You don't have to "defend mediocrity"--you could just write something interesting or not write a diary at all. It's not compulsory.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 24, 2007 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

re

I actually wouldn't mind a DJ at 3B experiment, while Chavvy is hurt.  What's the worst that could happen?  DJ at 3B, Swisher in CF, and Cust at 1st.  It'd be fun at least.

by 31Boots on Jul 24, 2007 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

The worst thing that could happen

is that every game would be like the Scutaro nightmare game against Seattle.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 24, 2007 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's think positive

Mariners are starting to suck,, we kicked the Angels ass last night, and started tonight with 3 straight hits and already a run on the board..

Lets GO OAK-LAND,, baby steps.....lets root for single digits games back!!

by Hawk on Jul 24, 2007 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only better option

Would be to have Jack Cust in the lineup instead of Kotsay. Other than that, there is no point to what you are saying. Those are the players that are on the team. If you are criticizing the fact that it's Beane's fault that the players we have suck, then fine, but you're beating a horse that died in 1920.

So seriously. Saying Geren just "doesn't get it" is, well, for lack of a better word, stupid. These are the players on the A's. Get used to it.

the problem is not "too many left handed hitters" but "too many suck handed hitters"-Zonis

by ohad on Jul 24, 2007 7:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Boo
Jason Kendall gets the gas face.

by mlleaimee on Jul 24, 2007 7:45 PM PDT reply actions  

there are a few things wrong with the offense

but people keep overreacting. in addition to injuries (whether by built in risk or bad luck), we've had a fluky number of GIDP this season. that's hurt a lot. were it not for a few of these factors, we'd have a league average offense. as it stands, we're probably around 22nd overall, not dead last, but certainly not great.

subtracting negatives like Kendall and hopefully Kotsay will bring us much closer to league average. Crosby will probably be given more time to turn it around, but removing him would also be a plus at this point.

i guess my point is... i don't think the A's as built are really an 85 win team. this might end up being an 85 win season, but there's reason to hope for, an even expect, more from these guys.

I find your lack of Faith disturbing...

by rebus on Jul 24, 2007 7:49 PM PDT reply actions  

GIDP's

I don't think it's a fluke at all.  Beane covets guys who put the bat on the ball (Kendall/Kotsay, etc.).  He also doesn't like the "Strike-em-Out / Throw-em-Out" DP.  So, we ground into a lot of inning ending DP's.  We led the league last year (I think), and we'll probably always be in the TOP 5 w/ Beane as our GM.

BTW:  Does the "Strike-em-Out / Throw-em-Out" count as a DP?

Cheers,

CF

by Colorado Fan on Jul 24, 2007 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a DP but not a GIDP

Technically any play which results in two outs between pitches is a double play. However, the many less common forms of double play (strikeout/throwout, busted sac fly/play at the plate, lineout/step on the bag, Calero RBI single resulting in two Twins getting thrown out, etc.) are not considered GIDPs against the hitter.

by PaulThomas on Jul 24, 2007 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think it's a fluke because

the GIDPs are spread fairly evenly. Stewart leads with 12, but we have a bunch of regulars with 8 or more, including Buck and Swisher. i think that's a bit strange. especially since our GB% is not that high at 42% and our team BABIP is a putrid .280– that's probably bad luck too.

I find your lack of Faith disturbing...

by rebus on Jul 24, 2007 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

have to factor...

the low slugging percentage into the equation, too.  The overall GB% may not be all that high, but it doesn't need to be very high for a predominantly station-to-station team to produce a lot of double plays....

by Cutthemullet on Jul 25, 2007 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

our SLG isn't great (24th in all of baseball i think) but our ISO suggests a bit more pop. that and our BABIP suggest we should have more singles. i think that's actually what the offense has been missing more than power.

I find your lack of Faith disturbing...

by rebus on Jul 25, 2007 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

You stole 43 seconds of my life ...

and I want them back!

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Jul 24, 2007 8:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Negative vibes, man!

Did you take Randy Bell?

He's not going to try to kill you, I'm just going to try to doink you. -Rex Hudler

by JediLeroy on Jul 24, 2007 8:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Where is that guy?

He owned this place during the pre-season.

by SwisherSweet33 on Jul 25, 2007 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, "McP" is short for "McPoppy".

He's my love child with McFood.  But I'm still going to stand up at your wedding and claim that you're the father.

"It was just about to happen, at long last, and then we saw the giant badger." ~ mikeA

by Poppy on Jul 25, 2007 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL
"Woo hoo!" - mikeA

by McFood on Jul 25, 2007 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, I'll start

FIRE GEREN NOW!!!!

I think religion is a neurological disorder that prevents people from thinking on their own.--B. Maher

by sf drift king on Jul 24, 2007 10:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Has Billy jumped the shark?

Or is it McP I see up on those skis wearing Fonzie's jacket?  It's really nice to hear from you again, Oaktoon.

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Jul 24, 2007 11:40 PM PDT reply actions  

The fact that McP

is (allegedly) a scout for an MLB franchise is something I find - what's the word? - hilarious.

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Jul 25, 2007 7:35 AM PDT reply actions  

wrong acro: it's a McD franchise
I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm using it to wipe the sweat off my face and enjoy the rest of the season. ~ oaklandSMASH @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 25, 2007 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

that "allegedly"...

should be in bold, italics, underscored...bust out the special font formatting if you have to for this occasion

by Cutthemullet on Jul 25, 2007 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that

Ellis should never be put in the #5 slot, the only problem is that there were few options given that Chavez wasn't playing and he chose Kotsay over Cust to play the outfield.  I have no idea if Buck could play  center, and leave Cust in right but that was the only option he had to put a lineup differently than he did.  The fact he didn't play DJ, and move Swisher to center says one of two things, he is tired of Swisher running into walls in the outfield, or DJ is soon to be gone. I personally don't think Swisher is a very good center fielder, no range at all.  Kotsay has range, but watching him hit is painful.

by china bob on Jul 25, 2007 10:07 AM PDT reply actions  

I wonder if Escobar is still laughing
"San Jose A's of Fremont" is pretty bad; "Silicon Valley A's of Fremont" is worse

by ArakSOT on Jul 25, 2007 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

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