Open Game Thread: Game 89 - A's at Minnesota
So how's this for an opening to a second half of a season? The A's go into their personal hell of a Dome to take on the Minnesota Twins for a FOUR-game series. Chad Gaudin gets rewarded for his excellent albeit completely unexpected first half with the start tonight. He's 8-3 with a 2.88 ERA and he takes on Scott Baker, who is 3-3 with a 5.71 ERA. Although if you think it's going to be easy, guess again. Baker's overall stats don't look great, but the two starts before he bombed out against the White Sox, he went seven innings of one-run ball against the Blue Jays and eight innings against the Tigers and also only allowed one-run. So don't assume the A's are automatic in this one (are they ever automatic?).
The A's lineup looks like this:
Stewart
Kotsay
Swisher
Cust
Chavez
Johnson
Ellis
Crosby
Kendall
I have two problems with this lineup. Well, three, but Kendall apparently is the starting pitchers' security blanket so it's more realistically two. I love Kotsay and you all know that, but he shouldn't be hitting second. I'd prefer Ellis there. And Dan Johnson and Chavez should probably be flip-flopped. At the same time, you're then kind of looking at death at the bottom third. Maybe Geren just wants to separate the limp bats.
The Twins come in with the following lineup:
Castillo
Bartlett
Mauer
Cuddyer
Morneau
Hunter
Kubel
Jones
Punto
Man, look out for three/four/five. Cuddyer and Morneau always seem to get big hits (and a lot of them) against the A's.
Does the second half run start tonight or have the A's gone to the well one too many times on that one? We shall see.
LET'S GO OAK-LAND!!!!!!!
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separate the limp bats
Wouldn't that be about the worst lineup strategy possible? Well, except maybe for grouping all the limp bats in the first 3-4 spots.
Exactly
Better to give up on one inning in three than to lead off every inning with an out. Teams score more runs when they have a bunch of players reach consecutively.
Better still would be to just not put players who are as bad as Crosby and Kendall in the lineup to begin with. It's actually starting to really anger me that people this horrible are getting playing time.
I hope that last sentence ...
... refers to the A's lineup and not my front-page position on Saturdays ...
4 in Minnesota after the break
The A's also started the second half in Minnesota in 2003. The Twins swept the 4-game series. But, the "predator in the weeds" was in better shape going into the break in 2003. The A's were 54-39, 4 games behind Seattle going into the break that year.
In every other year starting in 2002, the A's have won 3 out of 4 in the series immediately following the break...including last year at Fenway Park.
damn, heat wave here today hot
and muggy.....76 on the porch. I hope the community volunteers drop by to check on me.
I don't mind the lineup
Kotsay on turf gets a lot of sharp grounder hits and Ellis against righties isn't fantastic.
Ken and Ray just said Kennedy is moving to the bullpen for good, meaning two things:
- He should be more effective b/c he can used far more vs lefties
- The A's will need a starter Monday (Braden? Meyer? Other?)
Madsen?
Would the A's rush someone through the system that quickly? Then again, they are kind of desperate right now.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 12, 2007 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Street, and then Buck,
proved they were ready fast and were given the green light, so who knows?
Very true
And Harden went about that fast too. It might be worth it at this point.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 12, 2007 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if they're going to call
Michael Madsen Mr. Blonde? You've got to think they have to. They just have to.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 12, 2007 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
let's just hope that opposing baserunners ...
... don't have stealers' wheels.
Kotsay on turf
Career splits:
Grass
AVG: .283
OBP: .341
SLG: .414
OPS: .755
Turf
AVG: .284
OBP: .313
SLG: .443
OPS: .756
in other words ...
Kotsay's a LOT more aggressive in his PAs on turf, and a fair number of his singles scoot to the wall and turn into doubles. Presumably, though, those singles-into-doubles would likely happen without his aggressive approach, which doesn't actually help him at all.
i assume ...
the starter would be DiNardo. he did a good job against the mariners after replacing rich harden.
per yahoo, kennedy is scheduled to pitch tomorrow, not Monday.
DiNardo going tomorrow,
TBA Monday, according to Geren on pre-game show.
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Suzuki ninth would suit me better. It may finally be time. Maybe.
Let's go A's! Let's go A's!
I'd rather Suzuki leadoff,
and different Suzuki.
<drools>
So apparently
A's are shopping Piazza and Johnson. Not too much of a surprise; they, much like Milton, aren't part of the team's future.
shopping Johnson?
Maybe Beane should move to Florida and run for Congress.
pregame interview with Ty the hitting
coach....boy howdy, everybody is about to break out!! even crosby! can't miss this game this should do it!
Hi Everybody!!
LET'S GO OAKLAND!!
2nd half run??
let's see.....
Let's go Oakland!
I listened to Ty's pre-game show. I am gonna hold out hope (I know, you're falling off your seats) that Bobby Crosby is gonna actually turn it around.
How soon
until Buck comes back and (hopefully) pushes Kotsay to the bench
hmm risp...
what do you think will happen here?
Argh: The first pitch to Cust
was a 2-run HR waiting to happen. Juuuuuuust missed it.
Cust's avg. starting to slide again
by athleticsBB4life on Jul 12, 2007 5:21 PM PDT reply actions
OH NOZZZ!
Yeah, the small part of his value that's not tied up in his AVG is in his SBs, which will likely also take a hit.
High zone
That last pitch looked pretty up in the zone, and I think Stewart had one high called a strike. I don't like it.
start the 2nd half w/ failed risp...good job
by athleticsBB4life on Jul 12, 2007 5:22 PM PDT reply actions
great start
by athleticsBB4life on Jul 12, 2007 5:28 PM PDT reply actions
Do you remember?
Those Oakland Athletics that did not allow runs in the first inning, where have those A's gone?
Ugh.
Must. Get. Out. Of. This. Inning.
kenDOLL pass ball...
if we can't use him for his defense then what is he there for?
for the love of Ba'al ...
IBB to load the bases with a SP who's already walked 2 and tossed a WP?
this half inning could get really ugly
after this at-bat
what a great start to the second
by larrysgurl on Jul 12, 2007 5:33 PM PDT reply actions
for fuck sake...
i feel as though we lost the game already
Why do intentional walk
when your guy can't find the strike zone?
at least we're not paying $126M for this
If this keeps up
I'll be spending all night trying to hit 20k on PH2
finally got it the otehr day started with three
straight hr with one of them at double. With two pitches left I was at 22000 and I just took them for strikes to not risk losing the points.
Going there now. In case
watching the game is too painful.
we couldn't even avg 2 runs a game against
the mariners.
Here's hoping the offense does SOMETHING today, cause Chad is gonna need it...
Arena Baseball
I see the A's bats smacking a few balls on that accelero turf...
Let's see how bad DJ wants to play in Minnesota
With a great series he could force a trade to his hometown.
3 up 3 down
is exactly opposite of what we needed just now.
Baker looked horrible that inning--
and Ellis probably should have hit that 0-2 pitch out, but he was in 2-strike defensive mode.
agree
couldnt believe that that pitch didnt travel atleast 400 feet. it was a gimme pitch
by oak1 on Jul 12, 2007 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
a crappy top of the second
2 very hittable pitches and the a's hit it straight to the outfielders. this is getting old quickly.
by oak1 on Jul 12, 2007 5:41 PM PDT reply actions
And crappy bottom too?
No more walks, pleez.
the a's body language
hasnt looked very positive after the break. just pressing too much.
by oak1 on Jul 12, 2007 5:45 PM PDT reply actions
Hi Chad,
How are you doing?
Do you need a pep talk?
now can the A's force the opposition to do
something their offense has mastered...NOT scoring the runner from third with no outs.
Kuiper swung and missed at that one.
"Shannon Stewart fires it in to
The rest of the comment is not important.
okay
online poker time.
Wow, 4-0.
Just got home. That's about right...
And Glen, SHUT UP!!!
Hitters have come alive as Ty predicted
Ty simply was talking about the wrong team.
Close though. He was "in the ballpark" so to speak.
ahhhhhh... watch about one more inning. Another zero A's baserunners, and...zzzzz. Do something "entertaining".
by One won lost won on Jul 12, 2007 5:55 PM PDT reply actions
Hey...
Who's that bald guy wearing Chad's uniform?
shoot, i know what happened
i misspelled gaudin's name on my blog earlier...
(corrected)
by EllisFanatic on Jul 12, 2007 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
err... anything wrong with that?
i'm new (shy)
by EllisFanatic on Jul 12, 2007 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't ever talk to me again! ;)
Nah, anybody who calls themself "EllisFanatic" is all right with me...
someone needs to take the username ...
FurmaniakManiac
That was a kick ass play by Swish
to keep the runner at 3rd.
think of all the sigline oppy's lost, though
I think Chad got confused
your ERA of 2.8 means you give up that many runs per nine, not per INNING.
funny thing
a's down 4-0 but it could have been a lot worse. more sad than funny.
by oak1 on Jul 12, 2007 5:58 PM PDT reply actions
Oh yea
Two doubles, two singles? Bad inning, give up only two and you feel lucky.
Pathetic
Jason Bartlett and Nick Punto are putting more offense on the board than the A's.
This season is officially hopeless. Time of death: 5:58 p.m.
Frustrating thing is,
other than the one passed ball, no one has done anything wrong except Gaudin. He's walked guys, thrown a lousy 0-2 pitch, missed two balls back to the mound (one gettable). The hitters have hit the ball hard and made good plays in the field (Stewart, Swisher). It's all Chad.
depending on who called the IBB ...
... coulda been a bench decision, coulda been a Kendall decision.
wait wait wait
Fosse just said that even if Bobby is fed sliders low and away always and he tries to put them to right or lay off them it can be hard to recognize a pitch you get all the time.
Did anyone else catch that??
what is YAGLWGA??
You Always Get Lucky With General Anesthesia?
Yet Another Good Looking White Guy Apologist.
Referring to Fosse, not marco magic :-)
Yocum Always Gets Lost With Gross Anatomy?
I come home
to see the A's down 4-0 and Crosby up....YUCK!
by chavyizdamn3 on Jul 12, 2007 6:02 PM PDT reply actions
it wasnt taken
i just messed up when I typed it and didnt realize until afterwards. ha
by chavyizdamn3 on Jul 12, 2007 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
You can ask Blez to change it for you.
:)
Yeah, it always makes me wonder...
"Chavy is a damn what?" LOL
you know how when a minor league pitcher comes
up announcers always say, "the difference between AAA and the bigs is when you miss with a pitch in the bigs the Major Leaguers don't miss them"
Yet I have seen Baker serve up cookie after cookie right down the pipe to these A's, does that mean something?
A's hitters are considered Major Leaguers?!
by lenscrafters on Jul 12, 2007 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
you're eyes are lying, and the sky is actually green.
clarification: Major League hitters don't miss
them.
In the A's defense
They do hit the ball . . .
right to where the fielders are waiting.
I can't believe how badly
Scott Baker is pitching. The first pitch to Cust, and the pitches Ellis and Crosby put into play, were gopher balls, while 5 other hitters have ripped the ball. He should be down 5-4 or 6-4 and out of this game by now. Seriously, he's been that bad.
I thought it was just TV angle
or something. I agree. Have the announcers said anything (sorry, can't watch 100% ...busying with other things since it is so agonizing).
by One won lost won on Jul 12, 2007 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
that's kind of what I was referring to earlier
We have nothing to trade...
and nothing in the minors.
(sigh)
Word
kind of like inside the refrig after not going to the store for a week.
You keep looking, but nothing changes, and nothing was worth looking at. Stomach growling, too.
by One won lost won on Jul 12, 2007 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Gaudin has looked like
a totally different pitcher since Mauer stepped in; like he finally decided to let loose. Sigh.
BTW, folks, don't make too much of the IBB. It didn't come until the count was 3-0 to Morneau and at that point it was pretty much a no-brainer.
I just got here and read the thread...
I'm not opposed to pessimism at all, but it can get a little excessive. 'Personal hell' of a dome ... we did just take 2 huge games from them there last October. If you want the "A's are doomed" storyline, at least be more creative. Also, it doesn't take a genius to know that we're up against it at this point.
by Bleeding the Green and Gold on Jul 12, 2007 6:15 PM PDT reply actions
4 walks, one inning
It's either pessimism, or heroin. And pessimism is cheaper.
(perhaps just as addicting tho.)
Be more specific
The Twins "offense" is making it look like the beer league guys serving it up.
by One won lost won on Jul 12, 2007 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahem... the A's offense (oxymoron?)
This team is incredibly good at making mediocre pitchers look like Cy Young candidates.
You're too late. THE GAME IS OVER!
And WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!
okay a question about the Kotsay commercial
at the end he makes a catch in front of a center field wall with a 410 mark and pillars behind it.
What stadium is that? Anybody know?
I think they film those in AZ during ST.
My friend is at
a Rivercats game. And he got me a Rivercats hat, and he asked me if I wanted it signed by Greg Petit. I was like no way hes batting .188.
just thought i'd let everyone know
by chavyizdamn3 on Jul 12, 2007 6:30 PM PDT reply actions
Slider low and away
slider low and away slider low and away.
or something.
Huh?
"Look at a guy's belt buckle; that will tell you where the ball is gonna go."
?
Providing they actually HIT the ball.
Wasn't it...
"...does he know we're eating his cake?"
Shannon Stewart comes through
with and RBI double
What's going on?
This all seems very strange.
When did all these ballplayers get here?
And why are they wearing green and gold?
holy crap
we are finally hitting the cookies down the middle!!
now put one in the seats Swisher...
er above the tarp.
Stewart:
I don't typically h8 on any of the players. Maybe I should start. Chavy is a pussified American; Harden has -7 balls.
Etc.
Kennedy coming in
YIPEE!!!
Obviously the walks are huge,
Tomorrow...
Lenny DiNardo vs. Johan Santana?
<dies>
I know Morneau got him for the single,
but this inning is why Kennedy is so much better suited to the bullpen, where he can come in and face a lefty-heavy lineup that won't be pinch hit for with righties.
well, the Twins have about as lefty heavy a
lineup as the A's.
Maybe Nards can work some magic.
We do suck...
I guess a .500 doesn't suck... but we suck. What is there to look forward to? Gaudin, Kennedy, etc... are going to give up 4 runs for every 6 innings they pitch. The fact of the matter is that the A's can't score 4 runs in a game so a healthy bullpen doesn't mean shit. It means we win 5 out of 10 games the rest of the way instead of 4. Big freakin' deal.
Pretty much
by 3Chavy3 on Jul 12, 2007 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Question:
When they count how many strikes a pitcher has thrown, are they including balls that were swung at but were outside the strike zone? What about 2-strike fouls?
Yes
They count any strike, fouls, and also balls in play. Anything that is not called a ball by the umpire is a strike.
I think the answer is yes to both
basically anything that's not a ball or HBP
If they didn't count balls that were swung at...
stikes... then opposing pitchers would only throw about 50% of their pitches for strikes.
yup
by 3Chavy3 on Jul 12, 2007 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone think we will be better next year?
by 3Chavy3 on Jul 12, 2007 7:12 PM PDT reply actions
whoa!
taht was weird! mY computer just totally freaked out in the middle of my thread comment.............hmmmmm.....
anyway- A's need to wake thef*#k up and smell the coffee cuz it ain't brewin in the green n gold. Thet just don't really inspire much of anything these days.
Popup, K, pop up, weak flyball, weak grounder,
sandwiched around a couple of runs that don't mean much cuz it seems like the team is always playing from behind. Like I been feeling pre-All Str break.
This team is not even close to the team it was a year ago.....and it is sad to realize that. THe question now becomes again.......whi is going and who is staying???
Does Kotsay
really think that he's going to throw Cuddyer out at second by barehanding that ball?!?!?!?! What a hack... the yankees might be overpriced, but I haven't seen a group of more overpriced underperforming babies in a long time.
All the times Kotsay has barehanded
a carom over the years, I've actually never him bobble one. Until now. :-(
Well, he's a nutless hack. What do you expect?
A nutless hack is what
my doctor gets when he checks me for a hernia.
<Wait for it..>
That was a nice double play
Too bad they scored though.
WOW, it sure sucks when close calls go our way.
I hate that.
No way, Calero's awesome!
The guy throws one pitch, gives up a hit, and gets two outs!
Now THAT'S talent.
Heres the deal...
Our pitchers and hitters just need to swap secrets. The pitchers have to reveal how they are able to put so many runs on the board and the hitters how they are able to put enough bagels on the board to satisfy Homer Simpson (Coming to a theater near you! 7-27-07)
I was just thinking about something
the Twins scored 32 runs last Friday in the double header.
Have the A's even scored 32 runs in July?
well I looked it up to satisfy my own curiosity
A's have scored 31 in July coming into tonights game. Which includes an 11 run outburst on the first of the month.
NRAFs: Game on free preview on Extra Innings
I know that Jennifer has mentioned this but it probably should be pointed out in a game thread. Extra Innings is in free preview for the first 4 days after the All-Star Break, so anyone with digital cable should be able to watch these A's-Twins games on TV.
Check for your cable system's MLB Pay-Per-View channels. The schedule is:
Tonight: 5th MLB channel
Friday: 1st MLB channel
Saturday and Sunday: 8th MLB channels
Dennys Reyes is exactly
what Joe Blanton would look like if he were left-handed and Hispanic.
I thought you all needed to know that.
Maybe....but a dude named
Dennys with a "y" can never be Kentuckian enough.
wow
nice long outing for Calero to get his legs back under himself and build some confidence on the mound.
1 pitch. Not quite sure why Geren doesn't leave him out there to work a little and test his arm.
Maybe Geren saw the pitch?
Because we're still in this game...
if you can add up our runs for a week.
Just got off work....
see that the only thing I missed was more of the same. Tell me, which inning did Chavy pop out to the infield in? Because I just know it happened at one point tonight.
5-spot off of Nathan,
then beat Johan tomorrow, everyone goes into the weekend happy.
Either that or I'm drunk.
<Conjures up Grateful Dead flashback>
"Yeah man, that second set was totally sick, esspecially when Booby turned into a purple snake!"
i have long since grown
tired of the coors light ads on the radio.
They've improved!
They were so gut wrenching before, you thought al Qaeda had created them to punish us. Terror, torture over the airwaves.
Now those commercials are merely agonizingly bad.
by One won lost won on Jul 12, 2007 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Now Chavez...
Isn't even hitting the meaningless ones.
Oh Man..this team is unwatchable right now
and Santana tomorrow night? It will take a minor miracle for the A's to get a split in this series.
Sell sell sell!!!!
Everyone must go!
Do you think we could get a six pack of budweiser for Harden? If so I say pull the trigger.
by ClutchSteinbach on Jul 12, 2007 7:47 PM PDT reply actions
whatever
I'm not picky. Though the tall boys would definitely last longer than Harden. actually, so would the regulars.
by ClutchSteinbach on Jul 12, 2007 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Got a cigarette?
I don't, but let me ask the goat's.
heroin dealer...Hang on...
<forget what he was doing by the time he gets into the next room>
USC Football couldnt come fast enough
High performance players for little or no pay! Ultimate Moneyball right????!!
Well . . .
let's face it; NCAA rules or not, many of the players on USC's football team are making more money than many of the players on the A's. At least the USC guys are earning it, albeit illegally.
by BlameChannel53 on Jul 12, 2007 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I want realistic expectations....
Do we win one of the four?
Realistically, yes
In fact, probably not. Or we win three. I'm calling it now: We win tomorrow and Mike Rouse goes 3 for 3. Wait. Dang. Well he might go 3 for 3 for the Indians.
in the words of Kathy Bates'
character in the movie Misery: Cock-ah-doody!
Five hits! That Ty is a prophet!
He can assess, direct, and the boys execute!
I'm predicting only two hits tomorrow. Good enough though!!!
by One won lost won on Jul 12, 2007 8:01 PM PDT reply actions

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