What did Gaudin do to Geren?

by RJ2549 on Jun 8, 2007 9:59 PM PDT

Gaudin must have really done something to tick Geren off, seeing how he gets pulled with 2 outs in the 7th and the pen blows the win for him. Gaudin had success against Klesko so far, so why not let him get one more out. I hate the "specialty" pitcher status of some players. Mainly for the fact that it isn't nearly as effective as you think, case in point, hits by Klesko and Bonds, both are whom....LEFTIES.

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I think he was just done.

I dont know what the pitch count was but I'm thinking it was up there.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin, Seattle Mariners

by Helloooo 1st on Jun 8, 2007 11:19 PM PDT reply actions

Seemed like it was increasing

with every pitch, too.

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by Nico on Jun 8, 2007 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions

97 ...

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Jun 8, 2007 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Pitch count was at 97.

I said it at the time the move was made and it was only reaffirmed by the result. Bob Geren was overmanaging. One of the few times he has done that all year. I realize that Marshall is a Rule V player and must stay on our team all year, but he simply is not quite major league ready yet. I think from here on out he should be used only in the way that the disgruntled and now released WitaSUCK was used - in a mop up roll. However, I want to reiterate that I believe this was simply a case of Geren overmanaging yesterday in this situation. Guadin should have been able to go after Klesko if he got on then MAYBE bring in Marshall or Flores, preferrably a hard thrower as opposed to a lolipopper like Marshall. It was inevitable that Bonds would eat him alive.

Regardless, we won - Go A's!

by SwisherSweet33 on Jun 9, 2007 7:57 AM PDT reply actions

I agreed even before Marshall gave up the hit

Geren has a very quick hook, much faster than Macha. That's not always a bad thing, of course.

by OaklandSi on Jun 9, 2007 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions

I don't agree on last night

being overmanaging. Marshall has been an above average LOOGY when used in that role and Gaudin was not only around 100 pitches, he was living on the edge far too much all night. I could easily have seen Klesko and Bonds raking Gaudin, more likely than raking Marshall. Marshall just didn't have anything last night, but he has been solid against lefties all year.

By limiting guys like Gaudin to 100 pitches on nights they are wobbling around anyway and asking for trouble, Geren is able to extend them farther on days they are sharper--plus they will be fresh in the second half of the season when other pitchers are wearing down. Personally, I think Geren picked the right time to pull the plug and chose the right guy to come in.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 9, 2007 9:30 AM PDT reply actions

Yep.

Bad results do not necesarily mean a bad decision. If Marshall gets Klesko out (as he has done with most lefties this season) this diary does not exist.

by AsFanInLA on Jun 9, 2007 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions