Open Thread: Game 57 - A's vs. Red Sox
If the A's have to sweat it out this bad to win a Haren-Tavarez matchup, what hope do they have these next three days? That's what's great about baseball--the A's have about the same chance they would have had if yesterday's score had been 8-1, because one day just doesn't predict the next.
Today it's DiNardo-Matsuzaka, with the A's lefty making just his second start in the Green and Gold, and "Dice-K" facing Oakland for the first time ever. The bad news about facing Matsuzaka is that his arsenal is about 8 deep, right down to the "gyro ball" which is second in fame only to Jay Witasick's legendary "sizzler". The good news about facing Matsuzaka is that he has a 4.83 ERA. In a typical start, Dice-K pitches a lot of innings and also gives up a few runs. On the Red Sox, that's often good enough to win (Dice-K is 7-3), but he has not pitched like any sort of an ace.
I'm on a strict pitch count (fine, word count) so baseballgirl will have tonight's wrap up; I'll be returning the favor tomorrow night. Meanwhile, let's get to the starting lineups, brought to you by--well, by my word processor, obviously.
Lugo - SS
Pedroia - 2B
Ortiz - DH
Ramirez - LF
Youkilis - 1B
Lowell - 3B
Varitek - C
Pena - RF
Crisp - CF
Buck - LF
Ellis - 2B
Swisher - RF
Johnson - 1B
Chavez - 3B
Crosby - SS
Cust - DH
Kotsay - CF
Kendall - C
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Vote for your A's!!
Hey guys,, I just finished voting 25 times on MLB.com for all the A's to be in San. Fran for the All-Star game. Go do the same!!! Lets have more than Dan Haren go this year!!
by Hawk on Jun 5, 2007 6:52 PM PDT reply actions
I understand the logic
of "everyone else is doing it, so we have to too", but really ... this sort of straight-ticket voting is exactly why fan voting for the All-Star game is so stupid. The team with the most fans wins, and that's why the all-star team is packed with Yankees and Red Sox.
How many of our position players can you say with a straight face truly deserve to be in the all-star game? One? two? three? Surely no more than that.
ok nevermind
I just get sick and tired of the same damn players getting in and are not deserving. Haren, Gaudin, Swisher all have legitimate cases right now and Haren will be the only All-Star.
by Hawk on Jun 5, 2007 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd really like to see Swish make it
Dos!
I'm mad because I'm still sitting in my cube in San Francisco instead of being in the LFB where I have a ticket. I blame Laotian terrorists.
I was stuck at work until 12:30 last night.
Hope you're not there that long.
Let's Go Oakland
松坂には恐いことないんだ 418;ん〜
ディナードさん頑張れ! 450;スレチックス いけ!!!
you are either the worst English Major ever
or the best Comparative Literature major around
Apparently part of it says
"Matsuzaka has nothing to be afraid of".
Or (according to Babelfish)
"There is no fearful thing in Matsuzaka", and I was able to sound out "DiNardo" in the katakana before my eyes crossed.
Kotsay
When is he getting a day off? This is 5 straight starts, when I thought the original plan was to have him sit last night. I realize he's been sitting for a while now, but he's coming back from a back injury, and I'm not sure pushing it right now is the best move. Maybe Thursday with the day game following a night game?
by IndianaAsfan on Jun 5, 2007 6:56 PM PDT reply actions
he's a gritty vet, like Kendall...
good place in the lineup for both of them, though.
Yeah, but
does he call a good game from center?
by IndianaAsfan on Jun 5, 2007 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm feeling good vibes for...
Jack Cust this game. Couple HR's, maybe.
One ray of hope for tonight:
DiNardo-Erasmo-Colby ...
... a particularly stinky appellation of cheese.
my guess: 4 more days
They'll try him in Thursday's game, he'll pull something again, they'll hold him out Friday, he won't be able to go Saturday. Won't DL him until then.
Yeah, it's a stupid sequence, but would it surprise anyone at all, given the histories of both Bradley and Beane?
Woo HOO!!
Go A's!!! I'm here for the whole game tonight :)
Hello AN. Let's put the smack down tonight.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
that is quite a commitment!
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I might doubt myself
later... but I'm optimistic for now.
Yay, Cust in the lineup
I like Ellis batting #2, too
Bocachica is starting
in RF for the Padres tonight. In case anyone cares haha.
Lets go Oakland!
Anyone else have the Boston feed?
I do
but it's muted. It's on my computer via mlb.tv, but I'm also watching the Dodgers/Padres on my tv. Vin is more fun to listen to. I got enough of the Boston guys when the A's played there.
I'm not listening
to it, just watching. maybe I should be listening, though. that sounds pretty amusing.
Yes. Just mentioned Dustin Pedroia-er.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Come on DiNardo!
You can do this!
Seconded. Let's go Lenny.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe try taking the chloroform from your face?
Ha...you missed a GOOD game
and got stuck with this one ;-)
[kicks own ass]
Ay...no es bueno
Kendall just saved a run
or nearly cost us one
if you think his game calling skills have that much effect on the pitching ;) </snark>
Heh...was talking about the blocked pitch
Yikes!
Come on Lenny! One more out you can do this!
Wow...that was um...interesting
Lenny out of the 1st relatively unscathed.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:16 PM PDT reply actions
ha ha
anyone see ortiz pick his nose and then look at his
booger?
Crap
I just realized my office doesn't get KICU on the cable. Ay tank ay go home now.
Let's go A's!
Can't stop MaEl!
Ellis!
Wow...picks up where he left off.
showing what ellis did last night before
he hit a ball into right field woooo hooo
by smasfan on Jun 5, 2007 7:21 PM PDT reply actions
MaEl is possessed right now. Come on Swisher.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:22 PM PDT reply actions
Love for one's family...
another smart line up move by Geren
Very smart
MaEl!!!
I love it!
Hi Everybody!!!
LET'S GO OAKLAND!!
Hey there. Did you find an A's umbrella?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
MaEl does whatever he wants. He is Tony Montana.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:25 PM PDT reply actions
Oh Swisher.
Maybe next time!
i can imagine how windy it is in the park since
even outside the park the winds are terrible
by smasfan on Jun 5, 2007 7:25 PM PDT reply actions
I wrote to the A's mailbag to ask Urban about
being on both the A's site, and Giants radio, and his comments of beaning Buck, here is his response.
You either didn't hear that I actually said about the Buck situation or heard what you wanted to hear. The A's are happy with my work, and that's all that really matters to me. For the record, though, I didn't say Buck should be hit. I said don't be surprised if Matt Cain throws at somebody as payback for running up the score, and I absolved Buck of any blame because I saw Lachemann sending him.
Thanks for reading,
Mychael
Father Urban. He "absolves."
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
oh that is funny.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
not a fan of the guy myself
by Vegas A's Fan on Jun 5, 2007 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
We should have retractable foul territory.
We we're batting, the fans sit three inches off the line. Top half of innings, the fans in the front row need binoculars and the players need a taxi to get from the dugout.
we should install fans that blow the ball back in
during opponents AB's. Not sure how you would get cotton candy to the people, though, so the idea still needs some work. Call the Twins!
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm picturing some sort of...
I like the idea!
Who is stil alive in the pen, Lenny, is pitching
like squiggy, he is probably still on a pitch count
Love Kots in CF
I feel so secure when someone hits it out there.
Great play by D. Johnson!
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:33 PM PDT reply actions
Woo Hoo!
Go A's!
Porn music between innings on NESN.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:35 PM PDT reply actions
so windy the guys with flags are having
problems
by smasfan on Jun 5, 2007 7:36 PM PDT reply actions
Fans being on the DL is a distinct possibility.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
That was a sad AB
Not a good idea to swing at pitches out of the zone and then look at one that is. :(
Is that what you kids are calling it these days?
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 5, 2007 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
yay!
We seem to like to squeeze pitches through small gaps between infielders tonight. Now we just gotta put some back to back :)
OH. MY. GOD.
THIS IS SOO BORING....
by iloveoakland on Jun 5, 2007 7:43 PM PDT reply actions
Man, those BoSox sweatshirts are boring
I mean, they have both red and blue to draw from in their color scheme, and they go with gym sock grey.
Reminds me that I'd like to sock Jim Gray...
...for any number of sportscasting offenses over the years.
You and the Hit King
who'd also like to place a wager on the Ice Cream-Jim Grey dustup.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 5, 2007 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
How long...
until we know if Kotsay's going to start hitting?
I think there's a real risk that, despite getting his back fixed, he's just a .700 OPS hitter these days.
This is Mark Kotsay
So I can answer that right now: He's never going to start hitting quite the way you want him to start hitting.
Hope that helps.
Nice inning!
Woo!
I wonder if this wind rivals that game
against the Angels earlier this year, which was easily the coldest, windiest game I've ever attended at the Coli.
Nice work, Leonardo DiNardo.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:50 PM PDT reply actions
I keep on calling him
LiNardo...
by iloveoakland on Jun 5, 2007 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
T-Buck does his small part. Let's go A's.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:55 PM PDT reply actions
YAY T-Buck!
LAA already up 2-0. Unbelievable roll for them.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:57 PM PDT reply actions
I can't believe
they are playing as well as they are. They're not THAT good. :(
I can't believe Vlad has stayed healthy. They
might be the best team in the AL this year, which could suck for us.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
God I hope you just jinxed him
I feel a seperated shoulder, DL stint for a month and a half for Vlady ... not that I want anybody injured...
by Hawk on Jun 5, 2007 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
the sad thing is that Cabrera looks like an MVP.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm hoping they are this year's Rangers
on fire in the beginning and then imploding in Aug and Sept. Any chance of that?
not likely with their pitching but let's hope.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Sox announcers
Buck does not have good speed,,, Cust hit 8 homeruns at AAA Sacramento before his call-up. ??
by Hawk on Jun 5, 2007 7:57 PM PDT reply actions
But... better than Hawk, Hawk.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
THAT is true
Hawk Harrelson has gotta be the worst...
by Hawk on Jun 5, 2007 7:58 PM PDT reply actions
Way to go Swishah. Let's score here.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:00 PM PDT reply actions
Aww.
We were closer this time! Maybe next inning we'll get a run or two.
DJ: Right swing, right contact,
like sands through the hourglass so are the days
of our A's lives.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Did anybody hear Cotroneo's call last night...
of the Kotsay relay to Crosby to Kendall play at the plate? Truly uninspired and lacking in detail for what was a REALLY exciting play.
the guy is depressing to listen to ;-(
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Last night
we were listening to some of the broadcast on my dad's XM radio... and he totally did the "Ellis goes back, Kotsay comes in, and Mark makes the catch!" I was like "THEY'RE BOTH MARK!" it was funny.
Crosby looking Chavez-like on that play.
Not on that one.
Crosby looked Crosby-like on that one.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks God
that wasn't a chainsaw
Crosby: Here, let me make that up to you
wow, how did crosby come up with that one
I didn't want to comment
to jinx Croz... but I was really happy so far this game and thankful that he got over his early season defensive slump.
THANK GOD for a DP! Whew.
Crosby: "I'm better than Bubba"
nice DP
Small sample size this year but...
I'm wondering, well hoping, that DiNardo becomes the new Gaudin...a good starting pitcher picked up for nothing.
Also, I'm wondering if Mark Kotsay becomes another Jason Kendall. Given his declining offensive numbers the last two years and his start so far this year, will Kotsay become like Kendall, someone who plays because he is perceived as playing his defensive position well but takes at-bats away from someone who would hit better?
chavy!!
CHAVYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!
Old Chavy-like!!
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Chavvy is baaaaaack! HOMER 1-0.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:11 PM PDT reply actions
Kanichiwa Mr. Dice-K
WOOOO HOOOOO!!!!
I was just going to comment that I don't remember him swinging and missing so much on low pitches... but then he hits a HR so all is forgiven :)
Aw!
I miss Sharon. She would have loved the hot Chavy/Swish dugout action NESN just cut to. :(
Where IS Sharon?!
We miss her too!
She doesn't love us any more.
I think she has a life. Me no likey.
Did he have another kid TOO?
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Keep it clean. Diego might be around.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
chavy last night: it looked good because i feel
good
by smasfan on Jun 5, 2007 8:12 PM PDT reply actions
it looked gone to dice-k
he knew exactly where it was goin. he didn't even turn around.
by blueconversechucks on Jun 5, 2007 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Hello from WAY east Texas
next to Shreveport, LA
GO CHAVVYYYYY!!!!
by LawDaddy on Jun 5, 2007 8:12 PM PDT reply actions
Jasper?
Marshall
Have a hearing in federal court in the morning.
by LawDaddy on Jun 5, 2007 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah....it's been a very long time
since I've been back there. Tell me...are the mosquitoes still as large as I remember...and the humidity....what, about 476%?
Did you see the little Swisher/Chavy bump?!
SO cute.
is that similar to a female "pillow fight?"
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
or "Swish, that Pace Medium is way too hot!"
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
You could hear
Chavez yell from the dugout, "Did you move, Manny?" while looking out to left field. That's some bravado by Chavy.
He was safely in the dugout....
...with Kendall to protect him.
I can't believe
Dinner-do is throwing a one hitter. How do the A's come up with all these guys
SSHHHHH!
Your gunna jinx him
by iloveoakland on Jun 5, 2007 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
What really kills me..
is that we rip on a pitcher with a 3.30 ERA like Kennedy. What would the Yanks give for a pitcher with that kind of ERA right about now.
did you ever see cust steal at home when he
played for baltimore. it was hilarious
by smasfan on Jun 5, 2007 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
steal at home?
i don't think you understand what a steal is.
send kotsay (and kendall) down to single A
????
Give him some time...
by iloveoakland on Jun 5, 2007 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm fine with that
give him some time in the minors. if he's not ready to hit major league pitching yet, why is he up here.
Agree
Kotsay and Kendall: The Untouchables; The Intangibles; The Grits.
Take your pick.
Hate to say this because it's so unkind, but I'm never optimistic with Kotsay at the plate. Hopefully, he can recapture the magic of the month before we signed him to that pointless contract.
That contract which I lauded at the time,
I should say.
you ain't alone on that one.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
"The Adventures of Diego and Briggs"
Their dad's have been unconscious lately and I'm thinking they have formed some kind of competition between families.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:19 PM PDT reply actions
Am so glad Chavy got that jack.
This could be one of those low scoring affairs and I want the A's to be on top.
I saw a little bit of
Dice K in Japan, and I thought that homers would kill him and the green monster would kill him. I wonder if those are true. But then I thought Igawa would be better than Dice K because of the Yankee stadium factor too
JASON KENDALL HIT FOR THE CYCLE!?!?!?!?!?!?
all in one year?
I thought the question asked
"Who is the only player to hit into a DP while riding a unicycle."
The answer made so much more sense with my question than theirs.
No joke!
This turning DPs thing is fun!
Sooooo much better than hitting into them!
very exciting and my blood pressure is lowering
each time it happens to Boston.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Great job by DiNardo
So ummm....since when did we start
turning DP's instead of hitting into them? I could really, really get to like this.
Don't look now...
...but this could be a short Red Sox game...
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 5, 2007 8:27 PM PDT reply actions
Shhhhhh
Was at DiNardo's first start
And have to say that he looked very good that night. Fooling hitters, giving up nothing hit hard, relying on skill and not the luck of hard-hit balls at people.
Just kept thinking, "I hope this is who DiNardo is." Tonight is giving me more hope.
Way to work the work, Kendall.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 5, 2007 8:29 PM PDT reply actions
er...work the walk...
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 5, 2007 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Dice-K must be the only one in the league
who doesn't have the book on Kendall: right down the pipe
by CrunchyFrog83 on Jun 5, 2007 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
and to think the BoSox paid $50 million
to TALK with him. I'd have talked to them for like $34.
Oh shit. MaEl is indeed human.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:32 PM PDT reply actions
Please...Briggs isn't that impressive...
most guys can repeat the feat you know...
lets go swish!
I wish
ESPN would still have the Tuesday and Friday doubleheaders like they used to in the early 90s. I'd actually have a chance to watch some A's games like this one
they over-expose everything until it benefits you
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Two is better than one...but need more!
LET'S GO OAKLAND!!!
Well Piazza wouldn't have scored. 2-0 good guys.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:36 PM PDT reply actions
Sox have no answer
for that blazing Kendall speed.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 5, 2007 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
and they pitched around him!
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Woo Hoo!!!

what are the odds
that Swish makes the All Star Team
I'd say a little better than 50%
I'd say Haren 98%, GoDan 60%, everyone else about 0 combined
I keep voting for him
I hope he'll make it! My friend and I voted 140 times yesterday lol
Sounds right on Haren and Swish
I'd put Chad at more like 25%, on rep and because the A's will already have their obligatory one representative.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 5, 2007 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
he'll get screwed by the "Mark Redman" rule
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
That was NOT A STRIKE
I have been confused
this whole game. Though usually it is when DiNardo's pitching and I feel like they're strikes when he calls them balls. But yes. I agree. Definitely outside :(
mierda, y eso fue strike??!!!
wow, that was a ridiculous strike call
It would be great if we could 7 out of Lenny.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:42 PM PDT reply actions
It'd also be nice if we could get more than 2
out of our offense. ;)
But I'm kinda proud of them...just don't think it's enough.
I'm transferring my "man crush" from Swisher
to Mark Ellis. Just until little Briggsie gets his feet wet.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
this month he's also got mad hits
like he was rod carew.
And with a name like Briggs Ellis
his kid could definitely be a High Plains Drifter.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 5, 2007 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
plus he's got the ill communication.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Ellis!
<thud>
Is there anything you can't do?
pitch?
Though I have never seen him try... so he could probably do that too!
LOL - QOTM
looks like our defense is once again back
to video game levels of web-gemmy goodness.
Got a bad feeling..
Tie game?
by iloveoakland on Jun 5, 2007 8:45 PM PDT reply actions
Shut up Kuiper.
On freakin' 0-2
not a good pitch
Let's go Oakland!!!
eeeeeeeeeeeek
C'MON LENNY!!!
JUST A COUPLE MORE!
Shut these fucking Red Sox fans up
God, I hate them.
Amazing how the strike zone justr tightened up...
or am I imagining things?
Uh oh...
DiNardo is playing the "How quickly can we lose our itty bitty lead" game.
LETS GO OAKLAND!!
You can do this Lenny! Or Kiko... or whatever is happening right now.
Wow
Anyone else think that Dinardo just threw about 2 strikes in a row to Manny?
by travisice on Jun 5, 2007 8:49 PM PDT reply actions
and one to Youkillis
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
With the closed 3rd deck
Fenway is bigger than the Coliseum. Crazy stuff.
It wasn't for the first 4 innings
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 5, 2007 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just about to say the same thing.
I think the Greek God of Walks
had an out of body experience.
Seems to be a theme tonight!
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 5, 2007 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
And for once, that's a good thing!
CHAVY DP!
YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
by iloveoakland on Jun 5, 2007 8:52 PM PDT reply actions
Chavy is totally sick at 3rd. Totally.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 8:52 PM PDT reply actions
Greek god of GIDP!
AHHH!!! WOO HOOO!!!
I LOVE IT!!! Sit down YOUK YOU SUCK!!!
Any Red Sox game
Seemingly doesn't sound family friendly or wholesome...
HOLY DP!!!
Boston has stolen from us, keep them!!
Electronic strike zone anyone???
Daisuke would still be pitching in the 4th.
by One won lost won on Jun 5, 2007 8:53 PM PDT reply actions
NEW THREAD!!!!
The Double Play Bit Torrent
If anyone is interested I just found these for those of you who are enjoying tonight's fantastic game. Gotta love the double play, especially when it's Boston grounding into them! First one is last night and the other is Zito at the Col. May 18.
http://www.demonoid.com/files/detail...
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by thefatman on Jun 5, 2007 8:55 PM PDT reply actions
How can Youk bitch with a straight face?
I am not one to whine about balls and strikes but this game is ridiculous. You can see it in the NESN stike zone graphic. They have been giving Dice-K strikes off the plate all night. Dinardo is not getting any of those.
I can't believe we are up 2-0 with this inconsistent strike zone.
Let's crush these guys
And send their incredibly arrogant fans home and little less self-certain.



























