A's Want Your Feedback on Reserved Bleacher Seating
The A's are considering converting the bleachers from general admission to reserved seating. I think that's a great idea; I don't have to worry about interlopers appearing on bobblehead or other "premium" days and snagging "my" seat or "our" row; and we don't always have to be there when the gates open. A potential downside may be the break-up of existing "baseball families" in the bleachers. Whatever happens, I think the most important thing is to maintain the existing character of the bleachers...the funnest (and funniest) place in MLB.
David Rinetti, the A's VP of stadium operations, asked me to solicit feedback from A's fans. What say you all to the A's idea of making the bleachers reserved seating?
Please add your comments and vote in the poll.
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by saint on Jun 5, 2007 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since all but the front row bleacher seats offer
um, horrid views, I never ever sit there, preferring to drink reasonably priced beer in the parking lot rather than going inside 2 hours before game time to snag a passable seat. With reserved bleacher seating I could sit out there and still enjoy my pre-game lot pursuits. Because I like the bleacher vibe, but the obstructed view of the game ain't worth it unless I'm up front.
Of course, I'm not sure how much the A's want to cater to my type anyway.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 4, 2007 11:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am in favor of reserved seating in the bleacher
for two years prior to this year, I had a 22 game pack in the bleachers and it was sort of annoying how you had to get there when the gates opened to get a front row seat where you could see.
And then you'd have the people who would save seats. Save entire rows of seats.
That is why I went for the 22 Game plan in the 2nd deck, because I would know where I was sitting. Well... I also splurged because it will be my last year in the Bay Area before going to Chicago for College.
But I would have liked it much better to know where I was sitting in the bleachers.
by Zonis on Jun 4, 2007 11:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i wouldn't mind....
paying the few extra bucks for guaranteed bleacher seats. it's just inconvenient to come in so early just to score a front-row bleacher seat. i was there today (section 147)...enjoyed it, but i guess it never would've been that way if i didn't come before the gates opened.
by arch on Jun 4, 2007 11:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a tough call.
Because if you want good seats you have to get there early the way it is now. However, if they start having reserved seating, then there will never be good seating available unless you buy the package plans (I'm assuming that the people who buy ahead of time would chose the good seats), and it's nice for good seats to be available for people who can't afford the plans but still like to sit in the bleachers when they do go to the games that they can. So there's a lose-lose aspect to this whole thing. I really do miss the old wooden bleacher benches prior to Mount Davis - when all the seats allowed you to see the entire field, ahhh, good times.
by F171615 on Jun 5, 2007 12:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No way
I have a partial season plan in the bleachers and like the way it functions now, with the unofficial section captains making the determination of who is worthy of the front row. But then, tonight was the night I was worthy!
by Englishmajor on Jun 5, 2007 12:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it might be nice...
not having to get there when the gates open to get a good seat. I have the 40 game plan, and I have to get there early to get a seat in teh first 3 rows...unless, say, the devil rays are in town or something. I guess I'd just like the freedom to show up 10 mins before the game and know where I'm sitting.
Although, if it ends up killing the vibe of the LF bleachers, I'll be pissed and hate it...
by ZeroIndulgence on Jun 5, 2007 12:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm a mini (FC) plan holder
And I'm in favor of keeping it the way it is. The die-hards that make the front row the way it is (saved seats or not) are what gives the bleachers their vibe. Reserved seating increases the likelihood of carpetbaggers in the front row. I go to enough games that the guys in 125 know who I am, and if seats are available in the first two or three rows, they're more than happy to me up.
During the playoffs last year, I was early enough to secure front row seats, but I was kinda saddened to see some carpetbaggers that I had never seen before sharing the front row. It just wasn't quite the same. The front row crew make it a point to get there early enough to ensure the flags are all upfront. That's their reward for their devotion.
by Rickeyfan on Jun 5, 2007 12:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a bleacher season ticket holder or
even someone who sits in the bleachers more than 4x a year. I do have season tickets elsewhere in the stadium. I'd like to echo the sentiment of 'Rickeyfan' by saying that the playoffs stunk. The atmoshphere and excitemt that typically comes from the bleachers was simply not there vs. Detroit. I suspect this is because the regular bleacher creatures did not get their typical front row seats.
If they are going to change it, the individuals who, generally speaking, make the bleachers what they are (510 guy, saint, duke, etc.) should definately have priority when it comes to getting front row seats.
by SwisherSweet33 on Jun 5, 2007 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Like It
Not one bit. I spent a lot of time in "terraces" in European football (soccer) stadiums with general seating. You can't beat it for fun, randomness and errmm, fun.
Anyone so snobbish as to want to suck cheap beer in the parking lot and still get his/her preferred seat is not in the game.
That's my two cents, thought up half-mindedly at oh-dark-thirty on Tuesday morning.
by Dan_Honolulu on Jun 5, 2007 12:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Snobbish?
I've heard drinking MGD in the BART lot described many ways, but snobbish has never before been one of them. I happen to think that basically deeding the few actual decent bleacher seats to a preferred in crowd (by way of line and seat saving) is rather clique-ish. So I guess I'll just content myself with entering the park at my own pace, and slipping into one of an entire bowlfull of de facto unreserved seats just before first pitch from which I can enjoy a view of the actual full ballfield. Snobbishly.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jun 5, 2007 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should appoint yourself Poaching Captain ;)
by Poppy on Jun 5, 2007 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, now I am really impressed!
Taking MGD to new cultural heights! If the rather large individual on all their commercials finds out about you though, it could spell trouble. He's guaranteed to take offense at your high brow ways with the high life.
by alox on Jun 5, 2007 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NRAF's drink MGD
real A's fans drink Pabst Blue Ribbon!
by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Jun 5, 2007 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss Dennis Hopper.
by alox on Jun 5, 2007 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As someone who sits there 70 plus times a year:
I have a family and run three businesses but still manage to drum at alot of games. There are times when I cannot be there in time to get "my seat", wherever that may be, and us drummers have been having a hell of a time getting seats together this year. It really sucks.
by saint on Jun 5, 2007 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude... you need to get a clone.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 5, 2007 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah yes, another experiment
First the tarps, now this. The conceptual drawing of Cisco Field has three tiers of bleachers in left field. The lowest is at street level and will probably be reserved seating. The upper two tiers appear to share a concourse and could be either reserved or general admission. We can infer that the A's are trying to estimate demand. But since the bleachers tend to have a high-percentage of stay-in-Oakland types, it'll be interesting to see how many carry over.
If they're going to make reserved bleachers at the Coliseum, just give the lower section the treatment while the upper section can remain general admission.
by vertig0 on Jun 5, 2007 1:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Give me a lawn chair
I'll sit on top of the out-of-town score board.
I like randomness in the bleachers. Also, don't make it to as many games as you guys do, so I respect the "entitlement" the flagbearers and drummers have to the front seats.
That, and I don't get over there soon enough to bag.
I just want to watch the game! Don't beat me up, please.
by oaklandSMASH on Jun 5, 2007 1:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Since I have a mini plan
and I like waving my flag, I voted for the reserved seating, but I definitely don't want to break up the cool vibe we have there right now. I'll ask the regulars in my section what they think of the idea tomorrow.
by sf drift king on Jun 5, 2007 1:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't like the plan
I'm not a regular, and I don't have a ticket plan. I go to about 10-15 games a year, and sit in the bleachers at almost all of them. I always try for the front row, and since I don't want to break up any group of regulars to do so, I'm usually in right field.
I don't like the plan. First, it's nice to think that, just for this one part of the Coliseum, the folks in the front row are there not because they're paying more money and/or have been hanging on to seats since Vida Blue was our ace, but because they were dedicated enough to come here a couple hours before the game started.
Also, even leaving aside front row considerations, I'd rather the bleachers be general admission. For games that aren't full, if you don't sit in the front row, you can have some elbow room between you/your group and other folks. If reserved tickets were sold, everyone would probably be sitting in the front.
by Nate on Jun 5, 2007 7:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Keep it the same
The beauty of the bleachers is that it's so open and there is freedom to move around. I guess the regulars, per say, would maybe enjoy a guarantee on their seats, but then who's to say that they'll even get the seats they want when season-ticket buying time rolls around??
The seat-saving and the inevitable hierarchy just comes with the territory.
by Melody on Jun 5, 2007 9:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What about patially reserved?
There is the front section of the bleacher (not sure how many, but I want to say like 10 rows or so) and then the back section. What if the front section was reserved seating and the back section was left general? That way people could still come in and enjoy the bleacher experience and not take the chance of ruining that environment in any way.
I like the idea of the reserved seats in the bleachers. There is something comforting about looking up into the bleacher section and seeing all the "regulars" in their regular spots. I get a little thrown when I have to search for them! I just hope they give all you regulars first priority on your seat choice!
Good Luck!
by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Jun 5, 2007 10:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I won't vote in the poll,
as I've never sat in the bleachers before. I've been tempted a couple of times just for the novelty. But I am aware that it is an informally structured seating environment, which I intend to respect.
One thing is absolutely sure, if the A's assign seating, the seating will inevitably go to those who can afford to pay. That's the nature of the beast. Leave it like it is. If not, it will change significantly, and I doubt for the better.
by alox on Jun 5, 2007 11:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Outfield seats
There are actually no bleachers at the Coliseum any longer, only outfield seats. Bleachers are benchs, not individual seats. That being said I am against reserved seating in the outfield sections. If you really have to have a certain seat then get to the park early or have a friend get to the park early and save you a seat. When I used to sit in the bleachers (for every game in the late 80's and early/mid 90's) I would arrive early and just relax and enjoy the pregame rituals of baseball, batting practice, infield, the groundskeepers, ....
Forcing reserved seating on the outfield sections means you can't walk around and find a section that fits your personality. Would all the drummers have been able to get together if they had to sit in assigned seats? What about the flag wavers? I sat in a few different places in the bleachers before I found a place and group of folks I enjoyed sitting with. With reserved seating this opportunity to find a group (who you did not know before meeting them at the ballpark) will be gone.
by skwid on Jun 5, 2007 11:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hmm...
I personally could do without the drummers and flag wavers. Then again, I don't want to get rid of them either.
I'd love to see Cisco field have a section held out just for the drummers & raucous cheer group types. That way, they can have their place every game, and I can buy my ticket as far away from them as possible, and everybody wins...
by The Pilots Dared Me To Die on Jun 5, 2007 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at your poll results...
I'll bet the majority won't be considered at all, whether yes or no, because the majority of votes so far are coming from people who don't have any type of season ticket plan -- and those are the people whose opinions are simply not going to matter to TPTB...
by Poppy on Jun 5, 2007 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't think so
There aren't many season ticket holders in the bleachers so those without season ticket plans will matter.
Btw, to thouse of you who now sit with a group of other like minded fans (be they drummers, flag wavers, the Kendall banner, ...) did you get together before ever coming to an A's game and form your group or did the group organically grow just because it could and folks could gravitate to anywhere in the outfield seats?
by skwid on Jun 5, 2007 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gravitated....
over to Sec 139 from Sec 136.
by BleacherDave on Jun 5, 2007 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got this response from Dave Rinetti...
Dave,
Thank you for getting the input for me. It's very helpful in determining what we can do here. I don't want to make things too difficult if it doesn't make sense.
Now let's take another one tonight!
Rinetti
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Sounds like the status quo will be maintained.
by BleacherDave on Jun 5, 2007 4:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I sincerly hope that if they do anything,
it will benefit the current crop of bleacher creatures who populate those area's consistently. They are by far and away the most vocal supporters of the team in the ballpark.
by alox on Jun 5, 2007 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they change it, it'll ruin the atmosphere ...
by devo on Jun 5, 2007 8:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this is correct
Forcing reserved seating will greatly alter the feel of the outfield seats. I have a feeling that the groups of fans who sit together grew organically and by chance, not by a group getting together at home and going to the ballpark. I know I didn't know any of the fans I hung out with in the bleachers before I started going to games (I think I still have the Henduland banner around somewhere). Many of us became good friends and got together at events outside the ballpark. Thus I believe that all of these groups that get together would never happen with reserved seating.
Okay, another question for the outfield creatures,
How many of you have become friends with folks you met and hang out with in the outfield seats? Do you get together at places other than the Coliseum?
by skwid on Jun 6, 2007 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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