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ANtics Episode 3.08: Kendall Knievel

Why is this catcher, batting .172 early in the 2007 season, leading off every game? Why has he maintained trust from managers Bob Geren and Ken Macha before him? The fleet of foot Kendall managed 2 stolen bases today, and has been strong in throwing out runners - taking out two speedy Angels in the pivotal early season series. Meanwhile, some of us have been surprised by his near-warning track power.  What is the deal? The ANtics takes a look...


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Jason Kendall is...
Underpowered and overpaid
183 votes
An intense team leader
216 votes
Delaying Melhuse from superstardom
53 votes
Scrappy and streaky, but not great
349 votes
A hot piece of San Diego Man Candy (SDMC)
37 votes
Other (write-in below)
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Scrappy and streaky, without a doubt!

.. I still remember that game-ending personally risky diving tag he made in Texas in the '05 season .. he definitely has a heart of a gamer .. he comes to play ..

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 8, 2007 8:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Underpowered and Overpaid for sure...

But that is Pittsburgh's problem. Sorry, that is not a link, just a bold That's AN's problem.

 I hate to see him ground meekly to the left side of the infield, or flyout to the shallow part of right field. There is some sort of badassedness that Kendouche has. He is throwing runners out due to his dedication to the game, and I really found it ironic today. He seemed to want to stick it up the Angels ass, that HE will steal the bases. As well as throw out the base stealers.

I also think he "calls a good game" as Fosse will tell you. Repeatedly.

by Fort Knox Yellow on Apr 8, 2007 9:19 PM PDT reply actions  

<glares at Easter Bunny>

Why didn't I receive this hot SDMC in my basket this morning?

"Get up!" ~ Ray Fosse, 5/31/2006

by KendallGurl18 on Apr 8, 2007 9:45 PM PDT reply actions  

HEE!

<snicker>

Now we have 6 or 7 months to enjoy, to cheer, cry, and scream both in frustration and happiness. ~china bob

by baseballgirl on Apr 8, 2007 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

HEE!

<almond joy>

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Apr 9, 2007 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jason Kendall is:

the most overpaid player in baseball. I realize I am not the one who is paying his salary, so why the hell should I care how much he makes?

I care because a catcher with 0 power, 0 speed, a below average arm, and an inconsistent batting average, making 12 million dollars is a frickin' joke.

Kendall is a backup in the American League at this point in his career. I have nothing against the guy, here's to hoping that after this season he goes back to the NL and extends his career another 2-3 years.

by Pucking Insane on Apr 8, 2007 9:47 PM PDT reply actions  

The sad reality

Miguel Tejada makes $12 M a year, who would you rather have?

"you just have to focus on the now. What am I going to do today? What am I going to do for the next 30 minutes to get better today?" - Huston Street AN 4-7-05

by brosa49 on Apr 9, 2007 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

glue

the glue that holds together a young, productive pitching staff

by KCB on Apr 8, 2007 10:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Kendall is...

F@&%ked!  ...hows that for a write-in?

by Amnesiac727 on Apr 8, 2007 10:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I crap on your diary

Just call me Waddy Lad, cattle rustler.

by LawDaddy on Apr 8, 2007 11:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Awwww...

it looks like Kendall is waiting for someone to play leapfrog with him!

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Apr 9, 2007 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds like fun

until it's your turn to leapfrog over the unicorn...GAAAAHHHHH!!!

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Apr 9, 2007 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

He looks good this year

Big year for Kendall, I'm calling it.

It's a beautiful day for baseball.

by As Man on Apr 8, 2007 11:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Big year?

At this point, and I'm sure everyone will agree with me, Kendall has regressed to an entirely different player than when he was with the Pirates.  Sure, he's still capable, but I'd like to see him at least batting ninth.

On the plus side, he does call a good game.  All the pitchers have confidence in him, and with a younger rotation that can be pretty important.  I also love the way he takes out John Lackey (I just want to punch Lackey just looking at him).  On the down side, zero power, zero speed, and I doubt he's going to keep throwing out baserunners the rest of the season.    

by jayefbe on Apr 9, 2007 3:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Better lineup?

LF Stewart
1B Swisher
CF Bradley
DH Piazza
3B Chavez
2B Ellis
SS Crosby
RF Buck
C  Kendall

Yeah, there are probably even better ones, but I'm sticking to ones that Geren might actually use.  Is this any better than the one with Kendall at the top?

by WaddellCanseco on Apr 9, 2007 7:22 AM PDT reply actions  

You could argue anything is better...

But the truth is that by putting him at the 9 hole, he effectively still leads off ahead of Stewart the second time the lineup comes around. Batting #1 gives him the first opportunity to see the pitcher. Maybe he's reporting as a spy for the rest of the squad, whom he can update in his eventual return to the dugout?

As for your proposed lineup, I'd put Buck ahead of Crosby. Heck, I'd put Kendall ahead of Crosby.

What about...

  1. Ellis
  1. Swisher
  1. Piazza
  1. Bradley
  1. Chavez
  1. Buck
  1. Stewart
  1. Kendall
  1. Crosby
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by louismg on Apr 9, 2007 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the biggest difference

between leadoff and 9th is that the leadoff hitter gets the most plate appearances and the 9th hitter gets the fewest.  So if Kendall really is the worst hitter in the lineup, it makes sense to minimize his times at the plate.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Apr 9, 2007 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think there's about

a 7% chance that Rickey would be a better leadoff hitter.

by mikeA on Apr 9, 2007 8:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Guys he's still a lifetime .300 hitter and ..

.. I don't have his 2006 stats handy but am pretty sure he hit nearly that last year, - so .. for pete's sakes guys show some patience with our players before you start writing them off!  Kendall also puts the ball in play and rarely strikes out {his very rare 3-K king-felix episode in Seattle notwithstanding}.  His obvious weakness has always been lack of power, but he can surely be a serviceable lead-off guy in front of Stewart.

I would apply my exhortation toward Crosby as well.  Be patient.  The guy didn't play much in two previous years, and he didn't get a full spring training in because the A's were being careful with his recovery from the back injury.  He didn't have a chance to play winter ball or do any baseball activity in the off-season because he had to let the back completely heal.

Does anyone remember Frank Thomas' situation, how the A's treated him similarly in ST last year, because he was coming off two unproductive seasons due to foot injuries?  And he started off the regular season very very slowly, - some were calling in to Buan's show and labeling him "Big Popup" rather than "Big Hurt".

It's a long long season and we have to be patient even though it goes against our nature .. the jury is still out on the 2007 season, we don't have a big enough "sample size" yet ..

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 9, 2007 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

It would be better if he struck out more

If Kendall struck out more and hit into fewer DPs, it would be a lot better.

Kendall's basic problem is that he sucks at hitting. Slapping GBs around and never striking out gives hit a high BA, but he managed a grand total of 24 extra base hits in 630 PAs. He hit about as many DPs despite hitting leadoff. Despite the high BA, he doesn't draw that many walks either, leaving him with a OBP that's right around or slightly below league average.

I love how tough Kendall is. It's something that I appreciate as a fan. In the end, his offence is just such a drain on run production that it's hard to justify playing him every day, much less paying him $12 million.

by MrIncognito on Apr 9, 2007 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Kendall Statistic

There needs to be a new stat to measure guys like Kendall, one that combines successful steals with throwing out other guys stealing. Kendall is 2 + 2 in that category today, tied for the lead with Laird (1 + 3). Not bad for a catcher who can't throw anybody out and never gets on base.

The A's success should surprise no one. They're a much better team than people give them credit for. -- Joe Morgan

by BubbaDude on Apr 9, 2007 10:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Kendall the base stealer

Actually, his career stolen base percentage sucks:

Kendall was 11-for-16 on stolen-base attempts last year, and has a .688-percent success rate over his 11-plus big league seasons (161-for-234)

(From the AP summary of yesterday's game)

At 69% for his career, he should get the red light unless the other pitcher/catcher are completely asleep.
Oh yeah, he should also be hitting ninth in the order, if not lower.

"Incidentally, this sort of helps confirm my belief that Mark Kotsay is the perfect "average" player." - FJM

by doctorK on Apr 9, 2007 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Why? Two out of three times ..

.. you are going to steal the base (with a 69% success rate) .. how does that equate to pitcher and catcher being asleep, which I guess you mean the equivalent of "defensive indifference"?  Defensive indifference doesn't count in the stats for stolen bases ..

At 69% for his career, he should get the red light unless the other pitcher/catcher are completely asleep.

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 9, 2007 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because when he gets thrown out...

He takes the bat out of Bradley and Swisher's hands.

There are times it can be worth it to steal. 2 Outs, bot 9th, down by one, for example. The stolen base is a good tool to have, and as long as the A's use it selectively, I'm all for it, but we really need to avoid outs.

by MrIncognito on Apr 9, 2007 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed i was just contesting the idea that ..

.. Kendall can only steal bases when "pitcher/catcher are completely asleep".  My point was, that is a perfect description of "defensive indifference" which doesn't count in base stealing stats ..

.. Definitely I am not the manager and don't wish to be nor would they want me to be {grin} .. when and how often to steal is Geren's job! :)

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 9, 2007 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

oops, need to clarify

Kendall's career numbers indicate that he should not bother trying to steal because his success rate is not high enough to justify taking the risk. My comment about the pitcher being asleep would refer to someone not paying attention to the base runner, or a pitcher who is notoriously slow to the plate, and not about defensive indifference.

It's debatable if Kendall's two steals yesterday even impacted the game outcome. The first one resulted in him being stranded at second instead of first in the first inning. The second one with two outs in the third inning was before Stewart's double to deep CF. Unless we're talking about Frank Thomas, a major leaguer should be able to score from first with two outs on a ball to deep CF (he'd be running on contact without worrying about being doubled off base). I'd rather see the A's make the third out at home instead of at second.

"Incidentally, this sort of helps confirm my belief that Mark Kotsay is the perfect "average" player." - FJM

by doctorK on Apr 9, 2007 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, yes but ..

.. With two outs in the 3rd - if Stew had only got a bloop single falling in behind the first base and RF, Kendall (running on contact) would score starting from second, but not from first.  By stealing 2nd base, he got into "normal" scoring position.  We don't normally think of anyone in "scoring position" until they reach 2nd base.

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 9, 2007 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can we agree on this?

Kendall should be hitting ninth.

and

Ozzie Guillen is the south end of a northbound horse.

"Incidentally, this sort of helps confirm my belief that Mark Kotsay is the perfect "average" player." - FJM

by doctorK on Apr 9, 2007 5:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Ozzie is Nasty! {grin}

.. he definitely has a sailor's mouth .. and a tendency to stick his foot in it! .. {g} ..

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 9, 2007 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

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