A's acquire Denorfia

by kc72 on Apr 27, 2007 3:48 PM PDT Comment 43 comments

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet...

Athletics acquired outfielder Chris Denorfia from the Reds for two players to be named and cash.
Denorfia, 26, will miss the rest of 2007 following Tommy John surgery, but he should come in real handy in 2008 as a fourth outfielder. The right-handed hitter had lines of .317/.391/.526 and .349/.409/.484 in the minors the last two years. He can play an adequate center field and he's above average in the corners. The Reds thought they didn't need him following Josh Hamilton's emergence, but as long as they're counting on Ken Griffey Jr., they're always going to need quality reserve outfielders.

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I don't know much about him

but Rotoworld seems to be high on him.

But he won't help us this year.

by Zonis on Apr 27, 2007 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

this is the Denorfla diary, not the Harden diary

Oh, wait --

You gotta work here or you don't get a beer. ~ Ken Korach @('.')@

by monkeyball on Apr 27, 2007 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

the new trend will be

getting players that actually get off the DL. Buy low sell healthy is in.

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by Satchmo22 on Apr 28, 2007 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

HUH?

Is this the new market inefficiency to exploit?
Acquire players that are injured/not able to play with the anticipation that they will be available next season?
Billy really is planning ahead.

"Bill King wanted to beat the Giants...every day of his life" Korach and Fosse, SpringTraining, 3/14/07

by LongTimeFan on Apr 27, 2007 4:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I wonder who the PTBNL are?

by OaklandSi on Apr 27, 2007 5:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

is that a joke?

they will be named later.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Apr 27, 2007 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

what's your problem?

they will be named later....but there may already be an idea of who will be named.

and in any event, I did write "I wonder who..."

by OaklandSi on Apr 27, 2007 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

PTBNL

There's usually a list that both teams agree can be choosen from, otherwise you'll be fighting later on when you make the choice. If there's only one player on the list and even sometimes when there's not, it's usually a money or player deal. Also, there's usually a time frame to select. Though they seldom ever post the list or time frame. Your question wasn't dumb at all.

Free of Elderberry smell since 12:20PM 4/19/07

by DMOAS on Apr 27, 2007 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

1) brad halsey

adam melhuse

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Apr 27, 2007 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

3) Larry Davis

"Kotsay is 31... Kotsay's back is 127." - Jeepers

by Ozzz on Apr 28, 2007 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Link

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releas...

"I'm so green and gold that I hang on every pitch, not just every game." - Lew Wolff

by BleacherDrummer on Apr 27, 2007 5:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Good move

It will depend on who we're giving up of course, but we're getting 6 years of an outfielder who will be entering his prime. He can play all three OF spots, making him a very good addition to next year's team. If we can move Kotsay for something of even a bit of value, we can go with Buck/Denorfia/Swisher from LF-RF next year. Denorfia is better vs. RHP, but held his own vs. LHP last year in AAA. His MLE from last year was a solid .313/.366/.429/.795, not outstanding to be sure but better than we've received in CF the last two years.

"You're a terrible ballplayer, but you've always been a great asshole."-salb918 on Ozzie Guillen

by gatling on Apr 27, 2007 5:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Can the A's wait until 2008...

...to decide the two players to be named later?

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Apr 27, 2007 5:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

and, more importantly ...

... can we break their arms before we send them to Cinci?

You gotta work here or you don't get a beer. ~ Ken Korach @('.')@

by monkeyball on Apr 27, 2007 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't be silly.

What A's minor leaguer doesn't already have a broken arm?

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Apr 27, 2007 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

QOTM, sir.

"Kotsay is 31... Kotsay's back is 127." - Jeepers

by Ozzz on Apr 28, 2007 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know you've been on AN too much when...

you misread that as

.. can we break their arms before we send them to Cindi?

by calgbear on Apr 27, 2007 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

YAY!!!!!!

Remind me: Is Cinci the bulimic one or the new kid everyone's making fun of this week?

-Cindi.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Apr 27, 2007 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

Teams have 6 months to complete the deal.

In the stands the home crowd scatters For the turnstiles

by andeux on Apr 27, 2007 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Recovery from Tommy John

I know Ellis made it, but isnt the recovery rate relatively low? this move does not excite me at all, aquiring another injured player is not my idea of improvement....

That's what grown men do, This ain't my first rodeo. ...

by OAKobsession on Apr 27, 2007 8:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Wrong

The recovery rate for TJ surgery is crazy high. Greater than 90%, actually. There's plenty of information out there on the procedure, but a quick Google search came up with this:

http://news.minnesota.publicradio.or...

by Aaron C on Apr 27, 2007 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

In fact...

...some guys come off TJ with stronger arms than they had pre-injury.

"Kotsay is 31... Kotsay's back is 127." - Jeepers

by Ozzz on Apr 28, 2007 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ellis didn't have surgery on his shoulder

he rehabbed it instead. I also think his injury was much worse than TJ surgery. TJ surgery has become pretty routine. By contrast, Ellis' injury was so severe (including nerve damage) that it was potentially career-ending.

by OaklandSi on Apr 27, 2007 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also, TJ is for the elbow, not shoulder.

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Apr 27, 2007 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Durazo had it.

And look at how well he's doing!

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin, Seattle Mariners

by Helloooo 1st on Apr 27, 2007 9:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

probably added 6" to his wingspan

You gotta work here or you don't get a beer. ~ Ken Korach @('.')@

by monkeyball on Apr 27, 2007 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

PTBNL's probably depend on the health improvement

of Denorfia over the next few months I imagine.

by WaddellCanseco on Apr 28, 2007 4:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

the Reds and A's know very well

who those PTBNL are.

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/...

"Krivsky said one of the two players the Reds are receiving likely will be announced within the next three days. He indicated both were close to being Major League-ready. No specifics in regard to the cash considerations were disclosed."

by OaklandSi on Apr 28, 2007 5:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

"close to being Major League-ready"

Hm. Doesn't that pretty much rule out actual A's minor-leaguers?

You gotta work here or you don't get a beer. ~ Ken Korach @('.')@

by monkeyball on Apr 28, 2007 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It certainly rules out

all the major leaguers.

Most teams scan the waiver wire for talent. We scan the obituaries.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Apr 28, 2007 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or, hospital wards

Most teams scan the waiver wire for talent. We scan the obituaries.

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 28, 2007 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

brad halsey

3 days = depending on MRI results

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Apr 28, 2007 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's assuming

he's able to make the appointment this time.

"We've come a long way, and I'm not talking about Virginia Slims, either." - Art Howe

by EastCoastA on Apr 28, 2007 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Where was the appointment again?

Oh it's probably at Walgreens; I'll just show up there.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Apr 28, 2007 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like this pickup

But I hope Halsey isn't one of the PTBNL, although it would make sense if he was. Both his and Denorfia's value are down right now. Jeremy Brown or Komine might make sense too.

This should give the A's a pretty solid righthanded outfielder off the bench next year and look at the guys numbers, seems like he can hit, we could use some of that offense stuff.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/playe...

by pinkfloyd on Apr 28, 2007 11:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm saying Brown's in the mix.

And Mellilo.

But that's a total guess.

"Kotsay is 31... Kotsay's back is 127." - Jeepers

by Ozzz on Apr 28, 2007 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Offense! Yes ..

definitely could use .. ;-)

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 28, 2007 11:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

PTBNL: It's Marcus McBeth

Plus one still TBNL. So sayeth the press release.

by wedge on Apr 28, 2007 11:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

wow...sorry to hear that

by OaklandSi on Apr 28, 2007 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ouch

I like Denorfia, but McBeth was a very intriguing guy.

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Apr 28, 2007 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Same here

I keep double- and triple-checking that press release in case I'm mistaking McBeth for some other "M" guy.

This probably got posted before, but the Sacto Bee did a nice profile on McBeth in early April. It starts with, "When it comes to dreams, sometimes you have to be flexible." Seems even more appropriate now.

by wedge on Apr 28, 2007 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now I'm not as pleased about this.

I liked McBeth a lot.

by WaddellCanseco on Apr 28, 2007 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Out, damn (roster) spot!"

All the world's a stage I'm going through.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Apr 28, 2007 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs