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Necessity: Mother Of Invention

For at least one day, Bobby Crosby made fools of the non-believers, lining a solid single (granted, on a hanging curve I could have hit) but then cracking a big 3-run HR in a 4-1 win. Watching Crosby during those first two at-bats, something looked a little different: He looked relaxed in his posture, not anxious, and the results were very good. Let’s hope it’s a trend.

Really, though, tonight’s story is Chad Gaudin. Here’s a guy whose only major league starts prior to 2007 had been unmitigated disasters—3 hits per inning, “Joe Kennedy spring training level” disasters—a guy who pitched exclusively out of the bullpen in 2006, and who wasn’t even given the chance to compete with four uninspiring choices for a starting spot this spring. His first two starts were excellent, and this one was beyond excellent. It was dominant. From striking out the side to end the 1st inning, to scattering no hits in innings 3-7, to pitching effectively to contact and conserving pitches well enough to give the A’s 7.2 sparkling innings, right now Gaudin looks like a pitcher with great stuff who knows how to pitch. Not bad for a 24-year old the A’s practically picked up on the side of the road. Beane there, done that.

Granted, they’re down Vlad and some key starting pitchers, but right now the Angels look bad. Garret Anderson, who has looked rejuvenated this season, looked suddenly old again tonight, Gary Matthews Jr. looks like the 3rd-string CFer, and the offense looks a lot like…well, ours. It won’t last; the Angels are the A’s competition for the AL West, make no mistake about it. But for at least one night, the A’s just looked superior—right down to the battle of the shortstops.

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Guys like Chad are why I wanted Kirk gone

When we traded Saarloos for not much of anything (no insult to Shafer, I'm sure he's a dandy fella), I was very happy, and said so on this site.  Why was I happy?  Tonight showed it.  If Saarloos had been on the team, he probably would have gotten the starting nod over Gaudin.  Talent is a wonderful thing, and Beane was smart enough in the offseason to know that Saarloos simply didn't have talent and it was time to move on.  

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Apr 17, 2007 9:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And your explanation for Kennedy? :P
Now we have 6 or 7 months to enjoy, to cheer, cry, and scream both in frustration and happiness. ~china bob

by baseballgirl on Apr 17, 2007 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kennedy has far more talent than Saarloos
I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Apr 17, 2007 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He protects the guys from face-lick girl
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Apr 17, 2007 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha

I love that photo!

by baseb3383 on Apr 17, 2007 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kennedy's left-handed
Yep. Warm and fuzzy... that's me.

by grover on Apr 18, 2007 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not me

couldn't see the sense in trading him when we have 2 starters who were hurt part of last year (harden and loiza) and with zito not expected to have a good year for us.  hopefully you and billy were right and i am wrong as usual.  
if we lose one of our current starting 5 (harden, haren, blanton, joe k, chad g) who will be the next one chosen to start?  i'd rather have saaarlooos than j witasick.

by danh on Apr 17, 2007 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem is . . .

Saarloos (and other "proven veterans") are like crack for managers, they are addictive.  If Saarloos had been on our roster, he most likely would have been chosen as the starter late in ST when Gaudin got his chance, and we would be missing out on what Gaudin can give us.  If it were up to me, Witasick would be gone as well to be preplaced by McBeth or Mitchell.  Let talented players play rather than hang on to people who have no upside and significant downsides.

It's also why I didn't want us to sign Stewart.  If our outfielders were healthy, Buck would be in Sacramento right now thanks to the Stewart signing.  Give me a young talented player over glue factory specials any day.

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Apr 17, 2007 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha "crack for Managers"

spaghetti with meatballs was crack for Tomy Lasorda.

"Congratulations to the Oakland Athletics on their 2007, 2008 and 2009 Western Division Championships" --Rev Halofan

by BruceBochte on Apr 17, 2007 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree abt Sarloos, Disagree abt Stewart

First, with Sarloos we would have had too many pitchers to fit on the 25-man roster, {we have a surplus of relievers in the system}, and Sarloos' numbers weren't as good last year compared to previous years, and I agree about the difference in talent between Kirk and Chad.  Second, trading Sarloos also reduced payroll did it not?  {I think} he had just completed some sort of negotiation concerning his contract?

I usually defer to your opinion on things but I guess I feel differently about Stew.  Stew is a proven veteran with a long mlb track record, the only question mark being his health.  Since he will be playing on grass for his home field {and none of the other parks in the AL-West are turf fields}, and he appears healthy, then the plantar fasciitis problem may be a thing of the past.  If he remains healthy, and considering we got him dirt cheap, I don't see why he has less upside compared to an unproven rookie.

Maybe both Stew and Buck will do well this year.  Having too many good players, like having too many good pitchers, is a nice problem to have dontcha think?

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 18, 2007 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stewart

I wasn't so much against the Stewart signing (my comments at the time confirm this) as I was concerned that he would play even if he sucked.  Stewart has a limited upside if playing on grass rejuvenates him, and bringing him in on a cheap contract to find that out wasn't a terrible idea.  The point I was making at the time of his signing is that I was worried that his "proven veteran" status would hurt our team if he sucked.  So far, he has been terrible, but he has played every day, and at Buck's expense at times (against LHers when Kielty deservedly plays.)  Stewart is obviously better than he has shown, but if he hits .280/.335/.385 he is going to hurt our team's chances to make the playoffs, and he will be playing everyday while doing so because he is a "proven veteran."  Like I said, "proven veterans" are crack for managers, and they end up playing more than they should.  That's not Stewart's fault, that's Geren's fault for joining the hundreds of managers before him who wouldn't listen to Nancy Reagan and "Just Say No."  Because pretty much every manager in the history of baseball has caught this disease, a GM must consider that risk when signing a "proven veteran."  

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Apr 18, 2007 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alternative View: it gives the A's more options

One thing I like about the A's is their patience, especially early in the season.  One could have made similar argument about Frank Thomas last year, that he was being given too much playing time due to being a "proven veteran".  It took Big Frank about 150-200 ABs to get going,

Let's hope Stew will pick it up after getting the ABs.  You suggest Stew sucks right now but so did Thomas {they were calling him "Big Popup" in April-May last year}.  If Stew continues not hitting up to his capability, after getting those ABs, THEN the A's can do something (bench him for somebody else, release him, whatever).

Having Stew gives the A's more options with the outfield especially with Kotsay out indefinitely and given Bradley's unpredictable health history.  {We don't know when, if ever this year, that we will have a productive Kots back in the lineup}.  And I agree with Nico who has posted more than once that he thinks Stew will start hitting.

Stew is a lifetime ~.300 hitter.  I may have to eat crow later in the season but, just as Big Hurt had not forgotten how to hit homers, I doubt Stew has forgotten how to hit major league pitching.  JMHO - and on the other side of that coin, remember DJ and Swisher of 2005.  They started off "hot rooks" just like Buck, but the league adjusted and cooled them off.  Same thing could happen to Buck.

So I suggest there is a potential "downside" with rooks just like you suggest there is the same with "proven vets".  And given our outfield injuries, it is nice to have more options especially since both Stew and Buck aren't costing us anything paywise. :)

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 18, 2007 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

McBeth wasn't/isn't ready

and Mitchel is hurt.

Yep. Warm and fuzzy... that's me.

by grover on Apr 18, 2007 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know Mitchell is hurt

I was talking about at the end of ST.  McBeth probably isn't ready, but I was just throwing his name out there.

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Apr 18, 2007 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't know that you knew

Mitchell got hurt at the end of ST... not sure what's wrong with him though.

Yep. Warm and fuzzy... that's me.

by grover on Apr 18, 2007 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was hoping you knew what happened to him

I check minor league box scores every day, and he hasn't been in any of them.  Anyone on here know what happened to him?

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Apr 18, 2007 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, can't help

I only seem all knowing.

Yep. Warm and fuzzy... that's me.

by grover on Apr 18, 2007 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, that trade filled me with Gaudin-hope

http://www.athleticsnation.com/comme...

Many of us loved your enthusiasm and support of Gload...but things have gone downhill quickly.

by mikeA on Apr 17, 2007 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"scattering no hits"

i like that phrase (at least when it is applied to our pitchers' performances).

by danh on Apr 17, 2007 9:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll give Crosby this...

...he had TWO beautiful swings--one on the single, and one on the HR, just like the one he missed on Sat. night.

But he still double-clutched two plays (maybe it's cold), and K'd with one out and a runner on 3rd.

But overall, he looks MUCH more relaxed at the plate than in the past. Nice change.

And Gaudin was stooooooopid good.

Now we have 6 or 7 months to enjoy, to cheer, cry, and scream both in frustration and happiness. ~china bob

by baseballgirl on Apr 17, 2007 9:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Crosby will still be inconsistent
  1. He's always been inconsistent, even when healthy
  1. He might not be fully healthy now
  1. He has every reason to be rusty with all the time he's missed
  1. He's still working on his new swing/approach at the plate, and will look awful at times while he learns to hit in an unfamiliar way

But I find myself rooting for him a lot now -- partly because I'm being a contrarian (--No I'm not! --Shut up!), partly because I think he's genuinely trying to make big adjustments, partly because he's almost managed to make himself an underdog, and who doesn't love an underdog story?

Sorry, "whom?"

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Apr 17, 2007 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, you had it right with "who"...

You can tell if you turn your question into a sentence. If the sentence would make more sense by saying "he", then you use "who". If the sentence would make more sense by saying "him", then you would use "whom".

In this case, you'd turn the question "who doesn't love an underdog story?" into "*he* doesn't love an underdog story."
If the sentence was something like, "the underdog story wasn't loved by him" (which is a shitty sentence, but I'm too happy 'bout the win to think of a better one), then your question would become, "the underdog story wasn't loved by whom?"

Anyway...

It's almost like winning twice when you beat the Angels." -- Milton Bradley

by Elvez on Apr 17, 2007 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was a joke (see the end of the last thread)

I kinda started it by being pedantic about "whence."  Doesn't take much to get the pedantry ball rolling...

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Apr 17, 2007 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell, if I was pedantic...

I'm sorry. Didn't catch the inside joke.

It's almost like winning twice when you beat the Angels." -- Milton Bradley

by Elvez on Apr 17, 2007 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No worries, no apology needed!
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Apr 17, 2007 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At whom shall we direct our snarky wordplay...

...for failing to love an underdog story?
    Also, who are The Who of whom I've heard so much?  And from whom did I hear they're the humans who are related to Horton's Whos?

(Visiting Cubs fan)

by Loon from Left on Apr 17, 2007 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crosby's last at bat

He swung at those low outside pitches and struck out. What happened to the discipline he's trying to learn?

And by the way, it was COOOLLLDDDD out there tonight. That stiff breeze would hit and freeze us. Really lucky it was blanket night.

by richwol on Apr 17, 2007 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeebus.

Are we still being so hard on him that 2-3 isn't enough?  

Newsflash: Crosby, like Swisher and Chavez and most players the A's develop, strike out a lot.  Even if Crosby eventually hits that 850 OPS, he'll still strike out a ton.

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Apr 18, 2007 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also...

if the double-clutched plays are the ones I'm thinking of, he made the throws and runners were out.  He can double-clutch to his little heart's content if the result is out or single rather than the ball going into the dugout and runner ending up on 2nd or 3rd.

I didn't do it!

by Poppy on Apr 18, 2007 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BoCro has a strong arm ;-) /nt
.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 18, 2007 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The at-bat I liked the best

was his third.  I thought that after the home run he'd come to the plate and swing from his heels, but he didn't.  He stuck with his "new" approach, and kept his hands inside the ball and hit one fairly hard.  That showed me some growth.  Now, about the strike out on the 55 foot curve ball....
Right now, and this might be stating the obvious, but when Loaiza comes back Gaudin better still be in the rotation.  Kennedy is not capable of doing what Gaudin did last night.

by IndianaAsfan on Apr 18, 2007 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gaudin was sweet so were the A's

At bats in this game.  Getting deep into a lot of counts.  Also I am really liking the way Geren manages being more agressive on the base paths.  I still wish the A's could score a little more but I am liking the progress I saw tonight.

Go A's!!!! www.GamingDomination.com

by 3Chavy3 on Apr 17, 2007 9:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good crowd for a freezing Tuesday night

20,174.

"Congratulations to the Oakland Athletics on their 2007, 2008 and 2009 Western Division Championships" --Rev Halofan

by BruceBochte on Apr 17, 2007 9:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Shutting down the Angels without Vlad

is about as easy as it comes.  At the same time, I don't want to take away from Gaudin.  He's been outstanding this year and more than that, he hasn't been walking people.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Apr 17, 2007 9:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Halos couldn't score in Boston w/Vlad
Bill (Beane) is like the dog, he going to the bathroom. -Tony LaRussa on Billy Beane and a lost dog at the Coliseum on CBS 5 News story.

by pachydermOAFC on Apr 17, 2007 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Going with the flow

    Croz hitting the ball where it's pitched instead of trying to pull everything to the moon is one of this year's most promising developments; hopefully, today's are just the first of many dividends it pays.  But maybe the rest of the team is learning a similar trick:
    Can't seem to score in more than one inning a game?  Don't fight it!  Just score a zillion runs in the same inning!  (Worked against the Giants today too.)

(Visiting Cubs fan)

by Loon from Left on Apr 17, 2007 9:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Angels in last place

They are really scuffling.

I almost feel sorry for them, the expectations were so high.

"Congratulations to the Oakland Athletics on their 2007, 2008 and 2009 Western Division Championships" --Rev Halofan

by BruceBochte on Apr 17, 2007 9:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

keyword

"almost"

ALLEZ LES A'S!!!

by J Rod on Apr 17, 2007 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, right.

I just realized they miss King Felix for their weekend series against the M's.

"Congratulations to the Oakland Athletics on their 2007, 2008 and 2009 Western Division Championships" --Rev Halofan

by BruceBochte on Apr 17, 2007 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatev...

they get Colon back soon. When is Loaiza coming back?

With the Oakland A's, the intravenous drip is always half full!

by OaktownRajah on Apr 17, 2007 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can tell

Gaudin hasn't done many interviews.
"One-pitch outs are great. Two-pitch outs are even better."
All smiles.

It's almost like winning twice when you beat the Angels." -- Milton Bradley

by Elvez on Apr 17, 2007 10:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

gaudin=good for my fantasy team

nice 26th round pick lol

ALLEZ LES A'S!!!

by J Rod on Apr 17, 2007 10:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Call me crazy...

but I think there are similarities between Gaudin and Papelbon. The two have had great success out of the bullpen and they both have exploding fastballs with movement and great offspeed pitches. I'm sure if Street hadn't come along off of saving the college world series and all, Gaudin may have had a shot at the closer's role. Also the Sox failure at trying to find a Papelbon replacement forced him back to the pen when they believed that he would have had as much success in the rotation. Unfortunately, Papelbon gets absurd coverage as a member of the Sox and Gaudin will prolly not get much respect outside of this division. The two are very alike in their competitive natures.

Anyway, the attendance was 20,174 which was pretty good considering the nasty winds and the Warriors game going on next door. Not only was that game indoors but it had playoff clinching potential. Anyways, I hope Haren gets his first win of the season tomorrow!

Go A's!

With the Oakland A's, the intravenous drip is always half full!

by OaktownRajah on Apr 17, 2007 10:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The big difference I see

is that Papelbon has more control of his fastball and the ability to throw all his pitches for strikes in any count.  Gaudin has not developed that skill at this point.  Gaudin's slinging arm action creates explosive movement, but it also limits control.  If Gaudin can get ahead in the count more often, his strikeouts will rise.  His slider and fastball are both out pitches when he has two strikes on a batter. Being on a set schedule as a starter and getting the chance to throw 175-200 innings this year can only help Gaudin develop the feel for his pitches he will need to sustain his early success.  His ERA will rise if he keeps falling behind hitters.

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Apr 17, 2007 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guererro will not play tmrw either...

Hope the A's can sweep!

With the Oakland A's, the intravenous drip is always half full!

by OaktownRajah on Apr 17, 2007 10:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Unlikely

Since Lackey is pitching tomorrow.

Bill (Beane) is like the dog, he going to the bathroom. -Tony LaRussa on Billy Beane and a lost dog at the Coliseum on CBS 5 News story.

by pachydermOAFC on Apr 17, 2007 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We've Beaten Lackey Before ..

.. if not mistaken, {i think} that game last year when Kendall charged the mound which started the brawl - Lackey was losing pitcher in that one ..

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 17, 2007 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're back to .500 baby! Yeah!
With the Oakland A's, the intravenous drip is always half full!

by OaktownRajah on Apr 17, 2007 10:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Final comment on radio delay issues

The coup de grace came tonight when KICU lost its audio connection to Glen and Ray for several minutes in the early innings.  Mark Wolfson (I assume) connected to Ken and Vince's radio broadcast for a few moments, but it quickly became obvious that radio was a few seconds behind the television picture.  Rather than continue with the discrepancy, KICU went back into silence until Glen and Ray's voices were restored following a commercial.

The radio delay was somewhere between 12 and 17 seconds during spring training and the first week of the regular season, and that was just ridiculous.  I believe CBS Radio and its local affiliates heard the complaints and cut that delay to about 2.5-3 seconds at the start of the current homestand.  I would prefer a live broadcast, but for the time being I don't think the CBS lawyers are going to permit that.

In addition to discretionary ("bleep") delays there are delays caused by technology.  Tonight it appeared that Nico, using Comcast standard cable in Berkeley, was getting his TV picture several seconds earlier than me using Comcast digital in Oakland.  No doubt my neighbor watching the game on DirecTV was seeing his picture at a different time than either of us.

I grew up listening to radio broadcasters call baseball games when few games were on TV, I want to listen to Ken and Vince while watching the TV picture, it's not a criticism of Glen Kuiper, it's just a personal preference.  It has become abundantly clear that if I want to do that, I need to have hardware in my living room to synch the radio broadcast with TV, because with all the different feeds and delays it's by mere coincidence that radio and TV would arrive at anything approaching the same time.  

I have invested in hardware which, if it works as promised, will resolve this issue to my satisfaction.  I don't want to bore the 99.5% of AN that doesn't care about this with any further discussion, so I've put my e-mail address in my public profile...especially to be used by Nico for discussions about DelayPlay in the next few days, but anyone is welcome to join in.

--Soaker (Eric)

by Soaker on Apr 17, 2007 10:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Soaker, instead of private emails

why don't you post a diary for public discussion? It would be interesting to compare notes both on the delays people are experiencing and the usefulness of the Delay Play (mine should arrive Friday). Just a thought.

Once I get Delay Play, I'll probably want to whine at KICU, "Why don't you have a delay?" (Because the Delay Play won't help when the TV is ahead of the radio, and KICU will be "messing" things up by actually being live.) How ironic!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Apr 17, 2007 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, a public diary down the road

I want to give Delay Play a real good testing before I post a recommendation on such a highly-trafficked forum as this one saying, "Go out and spend $170 on this thing, it's terrific!!"

I think you were joking, but I will never, ever ask KICU to impose a delay.  They are doing the right thing by broadcasting live.  It's CBS and FSN that are causing problems by delaying their broadcasts.

by Soaker on Apr 17, 2007 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was very much joking

To think KICU would be criticized for having the audacity to--gasp--broadcast the game when it actually happens. How absurd that this could actually cause a "problem"!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Apr 17, 2007 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree, please keep the public conversation going

My usual game buddy was out tonight, so for the first time in a few years I listed to a bit of the game on radio while in the ballpark.  Delay was at least 5 seconds; no discernable difference between AM and FM feeds.  

"Nothing says romance like a pile of rocks."

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Apr 17, 2007 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Proud of Chad Again

From your old coach: Chad, you did good kid. Keep it up. I'm so proud of all you've done. - Coach Law

by coachlaw on Apr 17, 2007 10:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hello Coach

You've taken care of the pitching, and that is much appreciated.  Now can you send us some hitters?

by Ray of Lite on Apr 17, 2007 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn, it was cold out there

long underwear, winter jacket, wool hat and gloves, and the A's giveaway fleece blanket -- and I was still freezing out in the stands. But what I saw made me feel warm inside (ok, maybe it was also the afterglow from Marco's Sunday magic. I loved seeing his reaction to the fans cheering him as they showed his HR and vistory dance around the bases on the diamond vision!)

Gaudin looked very confident and in control on the mound. Crosby had two good at bats, that ended up of course with the 3-run shot that was the game. More importantly, he looked good on defense. Let's hope he keeps it up. (Swish just said Crosby cut his hair and beard; the fiancee might not like it, but it certainly didn't hurt Crosby's play.)

It's always good to win, but especially good to beat the Angels. Anderson looked bad in left field, and not great at the plate either.

by OaklandSi on Apr 17, 2007 10:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Quick thoughts

Hey, it was a quick game...

-- The Angels, minus Vlad and Kendrick after he left, aren't exactly imposing on offense.  Still, Gaudin has been extremely good.  It's very good work on Beane's part, picking up a guy with Major League experience, a good arm, and a lot of youth - for nothing.

-- Crosby's defense has bothered me more than his offense, where he's shown signs of making better decisions.  But as one of his critics, I give him credit for hitting the mistake out of the park.  It's the sort of performance that frustrates those who see his occasional flashes of excellence.

-- Embree got lucky.  He's been a little shaky lately.  That isn't much to complain about.

-- Street continues his quiet excellence.

-- Weaver made the mistake, but his first performance of the year was impressive anyway.

by bear88 on Apr 17, 2007 10:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Surprised we didnt pinchrun for Piazza in the 9th

Just got back from the Coliseum.  

He was chuggin' but man is he s-l-o-w.  I think Scoot might've scored on that play. Hell, I think Frank mighta scored on that play.  

And has anyone 'splained why Swisher ran over from Timbuk2 to miss the fly ball hit at Stewart--the one that cost Gaudin his shut-out?  

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Apr 17, 2007 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suggested Answers (Q&A):

He was chuggin' but man is he s-l-o-w.  I think Scoot might've scored on that play. Hell, I think Frank mighta scored on that play.

Reply: Piazza the StairMaster is slow but Frank the Slug {along with maybe Benjie Molina} is the slowest baserunner in the MLB.

And has anyone 'splained why Swisher ran over from Timbuk2 to miss the fly ball hit at Stewart--the one that cost Gaudin his shut-out?

Reply: Stew was playing shallow because Izturis doesn't normally have the power to hit it over his head; but this time Izturis {as Kendall does once or twice a year} defied the odds and actually hit it over Stew's head.  Did you see GMJ of the Angels in CF?  Can't say I blame Swish for not making that play on a very cold nite when the wind was swirling like the old Candlestick.

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 17, 2007 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frank part was a joke, but it seemed complacent

...to not PR for Piazza in the 9th (And it would have been good for the crowd to get a shot at cheering Scutaro).  Scoot's homerun trot Sunday was faster than Piazza (another attempt at humor).

I agree it was a tough go for Swish on that play--that's why I thought Stewart was in a better position to get it, even if he had to retreat towards the wall.  And I have no idea, pre-coffee, what a GMJ is.    

The wind was incredible--the HTs (Hated Tarps) were billowing in all different directions esp on MD (Mount Davis), where sometimes they BODiAS (blew opposite directions in adjacent sections).  

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Apr 18, 2007 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

GMJ=Gary Mathews Jr. JealousJavelinJelloJumper
"Okay, now I know who drank the rest of my six-pack of Bitchy McSnarky's Snarkalicious Snarkade..." -Poppy

by McFood on Apr 18, 2007 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeh, the 50-Million-Dollar Man! ;-) /nt
.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 18, 2007 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gene Rayburn says:

It was so cold in the Coliseum tonight, when Mike Scioscia visited the mound, Jeff Weaver asked him to blow on his [blank].

Gaudin looked great, threw his pitch regardless of the count.  There musta been 4-5 weakly hit bouncers for 3-1 putouts.  In command nearly the whole way...I like this year's Chad.

"Nothing says romance like a pile of rocks."

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Apr 17, 2007 10:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Charles Nelson Riley

says that Jeff Weaver asked him to blow on his "Lackey."

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Apr 17, 2007 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Mike Napoli is so dumb--"

"HOW DUMB IS HE?"

"He's so dumb that he can't even draw a blank."

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Apr 17, 2007 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Mike Napoli is so dumb--"

He said, "Skip, this guy's name is Jered, Jeff is busy sucking at Safeco Field tonight."

by Soaker on Apr 17, 2007 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I refuse to acknowledge there are two Weavers

If I deny it long enough the Angels will once again be stuck with Jeff.

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Apr 17, 2007 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they stay on turn

the Weavers will face each other Sunday.

"Nothing says romance like a pile of rocks."

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Apr 17, 2007 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see that...

...with only 7 earned runs in 6 innings, Jeff dropped his ERA to 15.75.

[heads over to LL to check out their game thread]

by Soaker on Apr 17, 2007 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I lived in L.A. until I was 17

and in all that time, Charles Nelson Riley was the only celebrity I ever saw.  Man, I lived the glamorous life!

by Ray of Lite on Apr 17, 2007 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey blez

Can you please post this link to Cot's baseball contracts somewhere on AN, maybe in the 'general sites and research' portion.
Thanks Grover for posting the link in a thread the other day.

Gaudin's info, in case anyone is interested:

Chad Gaudin p
1 year/$0.4M (2007)

re-signed 3/07

1 year (2006), re-signed 3/06

acquired in trade 12/05 after being DFA (by Toronto) 11/05
1 year/$0.3025M (2004)
drafted 2001 (34-1,009)
agent: Larry Reynolds

ML service: 2.004

here's the link:

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/200...

by connie mack on Apr 17, 2007 11:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Just read the game thread

and I enjoyed it a lot, which is a change of pace. Good work, people. Our pitching is shaping up quite nicely.

Many of us loved your enthusiasm and support of Gload...but things have gone downhill quickly.

by mikeA on Apr 17, 2007 11:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Go Game Thread!

Yeah, it was fun. :-)

Now we have 6 or 7 months to enjoy, to cheer, cry, and scream both in frustration and happiness. ~china bob

by baseballgirl on Apr 17, 2007 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I'm trying to arrange my work duties today

so that I can at least occasionally drop in to ruin the afternoon game thread.  :P~~~

I didn't do it!

by Poppy on Apr 18, 2007 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The first thread is already open

if you want to get a jump on spoiling it.

by green star oakland on Apr 18, 2007 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just got back from the game...

Despite the fact that it was the coldest game of the four I have been to this year... I loved it. Winning is just the best feeling.

And I didn't see all that many Halo fans at the game...that was a nice surprise. :-)

by IM4Oakgal on Apr 17, 2007 11:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

this team sux
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Apr 17, 2007 11:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This team sux...

on Rally Monkey brains, Indiana Jones style!! Take that you Angels fan!

With the Oakland A's, the intravenous drip is always half full!

by OaktownRajah on Apr 18, 2007 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just came back from Siberia

...I mean I just came back from the game, by way of the post office where I dropped off my tithe to Uncle Sam.

Man, being in a higher income tax bracket sucks.  When I was broke, I always received refunds.  Now it seems that my W-2 jobs don't withhold enough so I have to pay.

Anyways, this game was very anti-climactic.  After the Yankee series, this victory over the Halos seem very ho-hum.  Granted, they didn't have Vlad, but it just didn't feel like an Angels game.

Also, Bobby Crosby is not off the hook.  Just because he hit a three-run dinger that doesn't mean he's off my shit list.  Out side of the single and homer he had two ugly K's.  This guy has not two strike approach, it's always swing for the fences.  A good day without a positive trend doesn't mean anything, it's just an aberration.  I won't eat crow until I see positive trends from Crosby.

On a final note, the game was hella cold.  I really couldn't believe that I sat through nine innings.  When I got on BART, my hands tingled from the blood returning to my extremities for most of my ride towards my truck (still haven't bought the hybrid yet) in South Hayward.  That's how cold I was in the Coliseum tonight.

"it's like an alarm clock, WOOT WOOT!" -Bubb Rubb

by secret ASian man on Apr 17, 2007 11:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It was the wind..

it made it feel even colder.  I think the crowd was too cold to take their hands out of the fleecey blankets to clap. My husband kept saying " I thought we were going to a baseball game not the North Pole!" Yeah, he's even dorkier than I am .

by IM4Oakgal on Apr 17, 2007 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

now that you are back on your

feet financially and the higher tax brackett, ..... i am interested in a low interest loan to fund some investment realestate....i spotted this lot and ol Bill Deal down at First National wouldn't do it.

AN dharma, where suffering is optional, except with kendall.

by ak_A on Apr 18, 2007 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it in Fremont?

Say, around here?  http://maps.google.com/maps?client=f...

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Apr 18, 2007 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And yet...

The ice cream vendors outnumbered the coffee vendors 5 to 1. News to Refreshment Marketing: I'd rather eat a live coal than Dibs on an April night at the Coliseum.

"At least he could have drawn a painting of Pierzynski being impaled by a unicorn or something."

by almostreggie on Apr 18, 2007 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

GauDAMN
Just back from another drumbashin' good time in the RF bleach-ees.  I'd like to thank Chad Gaudin for getting us out of the freezing pit of the Coliseum in a brisk 2 1/2 hours tonight, lest my roommate and I end up like Jack Nicholson at the conclusion of "The Shining".  All work and no play makes Josh a dull boy!

Crosby's resurrection act will have to exceed 2 ABs for me to get excited, but at least he resembled a major league hitter tonight.  In the 8th his strikeout with 2 RISP seemed a reversion to form, or the lack of form anyway.  But kudos to him for tagging a tough pitcher like that earlier.  Keep it up Croz!!!!

Gaudin, I thought CG might get the CG tonight, he was that economical and had great control, which had been the Achilles Heel for him in years gone by.  All in all, a marvelous outing and one, along with his overall general start so far, to build on.   Have we pulled another legit 2 or 3 starter out of our ass yet again?  Too early to tell, but I'm loving what I'm seeing from him thusfar.

All right, see you out there tomorrow, I'm in 202, a section in which I have never sat before, woo-hoo new frontiers!!!!!

LET'S go OAKland!!!!

by emperor nobody on Apr 18, 2007 12:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It was a good day...

Nobody else joined Team Broken.

With the Oakland A's, the intravenous drip is always half full!

by OaktownRajah on Apr 18, 2007 12:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I have never been so cold

which is saying a lot for someone who lived in Minnesota for 32 years.  And I got there too late for the fleece blanket. Fortunately, the coffee man came through the left field bleachers.  It was really lousy coffee, but it was hot.  It was $4, which seems like a good deal only by comparison with the $6 iced coffee I purchased in the stands on Sunday.  For $6 I think you could find room for a bottle of milk on the vendor's tray, because powdered creamer crap really does not work in iced coffee.  
This was my fourth game of the season, the one with the smallest crowd vs. opening night and two Yanks games, but the one with the worst crowd-ing.  The lines for food and beverages seemed to be moving much more slowly, possibly because many of the side stands were closed, possibly because no one wanted to go back out in the cold so they were dragging their feet.  
In addition to Fleece Blanket Night, it was Plastic Bag on the Field Night -- it seemed like all the garbage that normally collects under the BART tracks and freeway underpasses of East Oakland had become airborne and floated into the Coliseum.   Most of it blew slowly across the field from right and ended up around the A's bullpen, where the ball boy periodically ran out to gather it up.  At one point the umps had huddled between innings and seemed to be trying to figure out whether there was something they should be doing about it.  There wasn't.

"(Zito) swings like a girl and runs like a woman." -- Dan Haren, January 27, 2007.

by Englishmajor on Apr 18, 2007 12:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay Bobby!!

Yay Bobby!! Yay Bobby!! Yay Bobby!!

Ok, so yeah, I wore my Bobby shirt for the first time this season to the game tonight. Then I saw him come out and I saw his hair was gone and my beautifully bald Bobby was back. I knew tonight would be different for him!

It made me so happy to see that my boy got his strutt back a bit tonight. I hope it continues.

Oh Chad, Good God!! Outstanding!! I knew he was good, but DAMN!

Speaking of Damn! 51 Degrees at first pitch, holy cow! My friend was actually in 6 layers of clothes and was still cold. It was insane out there tonight!! So tomorrow night, I am just going to spend time in an ice rink watching Hockey! That will be warmer... right?

Go SHARKS! Go A'S!!

"I'm already in Barry's head! He doesn't want to play against ME!" - Kotsay on facing Zito, Fan Fest 2007

by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Apr 18, 2007 1:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gaudin

Congrats to Chad!

Since I've always liked Gaudin (since he rocked for video game baseball in 2004), I am going to continue taking credit for his acquisition.  

When he inevitable has a bad outing (we all do), you may post that link with ridicule and derision.

Here's a nice Buster Olney on how Gaudin developed his slider from way back in April 2004:

Devilishly effective pitch

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Apr 18, 2007 6:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wow, nice work there jubjub
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Apr 18, 2007 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Inflammatory thought

Do we trade Gaudin when his stock is high?  He's done amazingly well and made opposing lineups look like fools.

But we need some punch in our lineup and I'm still not entirely convinced tha Gaudin can continue this performance.  Does anyone here believe that Gaudin can continue with an ERA under 3 (or even 4 for that matter)?  I don't think so.  But the starter market is incredibly frothy, especially with all the DLs lately.  He's a damn fine pitcher, but it might be worth it to explore the trade market for a good slugger.

by eastbayexpat on Apr 18, 2007 8:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Explore? Always. Trade? No.

A trade is unlikely for three reasons.  First, everyone still has doubts that Gaudin is for real because he's only done it for three starts.  The people who have those doubts include every GM in baseball as well as all of us AN folks, so his trade value is not high enough yet to bring a good slugger.  Second, given the tenuous state of our rotation's health, I doubt that Beane would trade Gaudin at this point.  Third, Gaudin has real talent, and Beane probably would like to see how that talent develops.

I'd like to eat my lunch, but Billy just kicked me out of my office.

by BlameChannel53 on Apr 18, 2007 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To add:

we would need to get something really good (which it's pretty unlikely we would get) to give up a very talented pitcher under club control for four more years after this.

Many of us loved your enthusiasm and support of Gload...but things have gone downhill quickly.

by mikeA on Apr 18, 2007 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Trade our Gaudin for Rent-a-Playa

Examples From Last year:

  • Carlos Lee, acquired by Texas for 2nd-half last year but then gone.  Brewers got Francisco Cordera {good setup man and/or closer} and, I think, Mench.
  • Shea Hillenbrand, acquired by SF for 2nd-half last year but then gone.  BlueJays got Jeremy Accardo {ditto to Cordera, a power arm}.

There are many such examples where trades are made for "instant offense" but IMHO they rarely work out well - unless you get a dynamite offensive player and can sign him longer term.  As others suggest here, that probably ain't gonna happen.

.. the Athletics may be small-market but they have BIG-heart! ..

by Randy Bell on Apr 18, 2007 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A's vs Rangers this weekend

I just got my tix and wanted to let anyone going to the games know where I'll be if you want to say hi.

Friday nite - Sec 3 Row 7 seats 6-8
Sun afternoon - Sec 50 Row 2 seats 17-18

No homers for Ian Kinsler this weekend.

Note:  A's have 3 of the top 11 ERA spots in AL.  All 2.00 or lower.  Awesome!

GO A's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by kapers on Apr 18, 2007 8:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Shea Hillenbrand's OPS+ is -10
Many of us loved your enthusiasm and support of Gload...but things have gone downhill quickly.

by mikeA on Apr 18, 2007 8:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice win, bitches!!!

Hopefully, they let Gaudin's talent outweigh Kennedy's lefthandedness when Estedrunk Loaiza comes back and someone gets bounced from the rotation. He's filthy.

Now, for Crosby...I'm thankful for that shot, and I hope he's turning it around, but come on. That pitch was hung so bad, I called out "Yard" from my couch about 3 seconds before he made contact. Also, there is a connection b/w he and Weaver going back to LBS. He knows the guy well, and probably felt more comfort up there. Let him put together a month of unselfish swings before we start tickering the tape.

All that said, it's important to win these games while the Angels look so bad. I don't think they will all year, so getting some separation now could be huge.

I'll try not to swear.

by Tony on Apr 18, 2007 8:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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