Open Thread: Spring Training Game 13
Is number 13 the lucky one for Joe Kennedy? You know, the spring training where his ERA stops climbing towards triple digits and starts heading south? Kennedy and his A's mates travel to Peoria to take on the Seattle Mariners.
Sports psychology is extremely interesting to me. The fact that many people speculate that a guy always steps up his game when he is entering a contract year is one of those long held beliefs that I tend to think is true. So it wasn't surprising to hear Billy Beane and Bob Geren both basically saying that Joe Kennedy pretty much had the fifth spot in the rotation nailed down before camp ever opened in Arizona. Kennedy is likely in his last season with the A's and about to hit unrestricted free agency. The dollar signs are dancing around in Kennedy's head as we speak.
At the same time, I also think there's another aspect to sports psychology that could be coming into play with Kennedy's horrific spring. He should've probably been led to believe that he is in a dogfight between Jason Windor, Brad Halsey and Shane Komine for the fifth spot in the rotation. Athletes, given the nature of what they do for their profession, often perform their best when they hear the knocks of youth at their financially secure door. Competitive nature takes over and you get that extra ounce of focus and concentration that can make the difference between a Kennedy who is painting the corners with his fastball and slider and the one who is hanging sliders and serving up meatball fastballs.
The bottom line is that I know that spring training means nothing and that once Kennedy gets into the regular season and sees that huge green light of cash at the end of the tunnel, he will probably turn it on a notch. But I still think it would've been good if he felt the hot breath of youth on his neck. Windsor hasn't really provided that for Kennedy. Neither has Halsey. Komine had a good start yesterday, but that's the first time that any of the potential number five pitchers has really done anything good. If Kennedy continues to struggle, the chances are that he will still wind up with the fifth spot simply because none of the other potential competitors have shown anything to make Geren, Beane and company to think otherwise. And the fact remains that I still think that once the regular season hits, you will likely see a different Kennedy for the above-mentioned reasons. Hey, it's human nature.
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I agree with what you're saying, but...
what's the significance of the number 13, exactly?
Nothing except it's
the A's 13th spring game.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Mar 12, 2007 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
ahhhh... I didn't think Kennedy was old enough..
to have attended 13 Spring Trainings (even though he's looking like Todd Van Poppel this Spring).
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 12, 2007 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Gameday
by Threepwood XX on Mar 12, 2007 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN the Magazine studied the contract-year thing
in its most recent issue. I don't remember all the details of the little study, but I think they determined that it was pretty much a myth. The whole study seemed off, though. They admitted that there was a small sample size and several outliers. Thank you, Adrian Beltre.
FJM touched on this recently
They said a Princeton study indicated "contract year" spikes in performance were illusory, but that a Baseball Prospectus study suggested a ~10% jump in performance among "prominent free agents" over the last 30 years. I think BP's methodology is suspect though; if an otherwise non-prominent guy suddenly overperforms in his contract year, wouldn't he suddenly become "prominent" and get his spike included on the list? And if an otherwise reasonably-prominent guy flops in his contract year, might he not plummet right of their "prominence" list and get his negative spike excluded?
by Loon from Left on Mar 12, 2007 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Argh...here we go again!
Dang time change!
I now have to go to class instead of being able to listen to the game at 12.
I guess it wouldn't be a bad idear to miss this one.
Kennedy vs Felix or President vs King?
Whatever his thinking and motivation ..
.. I hope Joe_K steps it up come start of regular season .. we need him, or somebody, to give us decent outings in the fifth starting spot ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 12:37 PM PDT reply actions
during my one diamond level game
Kennedy was the starter (second half 2005 season). I took advantage of the great seats to watch him closely. His pitching style (aiming to zip into the lower corners, mostly) was effective the first and part of the second time through the lineup. After that, however, his pitches flattened out and were very hittable. (The A's lost that game, lost the lead and couldn't get it back; however, Kotsay's two errors in that game were also a factor.)
As a reliever he has seemed to be much more effective. Of course,I realize that I'm just judging him based on that one game.
You're not far off ..
.. Kennedy's performance as spot-starter in place of Rich Harden, in August-Sept of '05, wasn't too good ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
After one time through the batting order
as I recall from his Tampa Bay DRays days, he generally faultered. I used to enjoy watching the games when he was pitching against the Athletics, because (it seemed) just like clockwork, 3rd to 6th inning, the A's would get a crooked number up on the board.
I like him only as a reliever
by One won lost won on Mar 12, 2007 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's not say ST stats mean nothing
because if they did mean nothing, jobs would not be won/lost based on them.
And I don't know about the rest of you, but if Kennedy is sporting an ERA over 20.00 at the end of spring training, I would have him on a very short leash to start the season.
by fadedash on Mar 12, 2007 12:44 PM PDT reply actions
Agreed because we cannot afford ..
.. to fall something like 10 or 15 under at the end of May, like we did in '05 -- just makes the rest of the season an uphill climb.
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow.
Did that radio commercial announcer really just pronounce "Thome" the way it's spelled? Like it rhymes with "home"?
is this game on Bay Area radio?
and if so, is it supposed to be on 1550 AM or only on the new FM station (can't remember the number, help appreciated)?
I just turned on 1550 but the game isn't on.
thanks!
it's on MLB Audio
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
No, just the MLB webcast...
seattle has their 'A' team in there ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 1:06 PM PDT reply actions
stop hitting our players!
mlb radio link?
this one is on mlb radio, and I'm a subscriber, but I've been noodling around mlb.com trying to find the game link, and no f--ing luck. anyone have a direct link - i'm also on hold with mlb currently, I bet AN responds faster
by giambizombie on Mar 12, 2007 1:08 PM PDT reply actions
I bet you're right.
Go to http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/scoreboard/20... and click the "audio" link that's above our scoreboard.
here
http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/index...
by baseballgirl on Mar 12, 2007 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
go here
http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/index...
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks for the help friends
you were far faster than mlb on the phone - i just hung up - though I almost stayed on hold so i could complain
by giambizombie on Mar 12, 2007 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
nevermind
i finally went thru a few backdoors and found it
mlb.com is such a lousy site, really, really lousy -
by giambizombie on Mar 12, 2007 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
hehe ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
But how are his obliques?
Hmmm...not good for Bocachica Wow Wow
Do we know the lineups?
I think I missed it if Buan said it...
rbi single from jose vidro, 1-0 seattle
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 1:16 PM PDT reply actions
sexson rbi single 2-0 seattle
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 1:17 PM PDT reply actions
Kennedy SUCKS!!!!
ST means nothing?
kennedy sure is doing a good job of throwing nothing.
2-0 m's, 2 men on, 0 outs
by fadedash on Mar 12, 2007 1:17 PM PDT reply actions
I can do a little PXP, if you want...
johjima retired, 2-0 seattle after one ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 1:20 PM PDT reply actions
anybody have the gameday link?
for some reason it seems to be harder to find this spring than it was earlier.
thanks!
Gameday for those who want it.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2006...
by athleticscatcher on Mar 12, 2007 1:29 PM PDT reply actions
Komine & Hererra optioned to AAA
Kendall should charge the mound.
Kennedy walks the bases loaded, Curt Young goes
to mound. Maybe he should just pitch, can't be much worse.
Ken Korach:
Ho Knacker (It just sounds funny!)
Hear Knock
Hare Knock
Hero Knack
Ark? Heck no!
Ken, Or Hack?
yikes kennedy sucks ..
.. pardon my language ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 1:38 PM PDT reply actions
Kennedy = not good
Supposed to get 'stretched out' to be a starter. At the current rate, if he goes five, he'll give up 10 runs. Awesome.
That'd be some stretching!
by Loon from Left on Mar 12, 2007 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Stretching Kennedy out

Jim Rome says, "Rack her!"
Curt Young:
Country Rug
Gun Outcry
Uncut Orgy
Gout N U Cry
No Curt Guy
Coy Nut Rug
Uncoy Trug
His name was much more fun.
offer still good for free counseling coupons
@philip -- .. free counseling, Kaiser at Redwood City psych dept has a specialist in anagram addiction .. reputed to have high success rate even with the most dysfunctional patients .. {g} ...
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 1:53 PM PDT reply actions
Anagram Addiction:
A Diatonic Grandma
Among Radiant Acid
Mandarin Goat Acid
Cigar Ad Damnation
Timid Anaconda Rag
Antacid Airman God
Cannot Aid Diagram
by Philip Christy on Mar 12, 2007 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops
Obviously, I meant to reply to the above post.
by Philip Christy on Mar 12, 2007 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
hilarious nevertheless ..
.. I see my little raggin ain't gonna slow ya down, that's GOOD .. {g} ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
End of 3?
by baseballgirl on Mar 12, 2007 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Piazza, Chavy and Johnson up in 4th inning
P-by-P from Peanuts and Johnny Depp .. {g} ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 2:00 PM PDT reply actions
King Felix with 2 singles and HB so far
Okay so my posts are always a day late and a
dollar short. Delayed game on gameday.
you're doin fine charlie brown
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Piazza still at plate on gameday...
could be worse, i guess...
we could be rooting for the Giants and Matt Morris:
<pre>San Francisco IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Morris 2.0 8 7 4 1 1 0 16.20</ore>
Note: Cubs pitcher, Zambrano, had a double and a triple off of Morris.
Course, Morris still has a lower ERA than Kennedy.
grrrr...
damn Preview!
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 12, 2007 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Not entirely Morris's fault
by Loon from Left on Mar 12, 2007 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Gameday's broken
It shows a batter with a 0-2 count against Joe Kennedy, and zero men on, and no runs this inning.
Johnson does what he does best...
He hits into a DP to end the top of 4th inning.
Dang...
Just popped in...is it REALLY that bad???
by curlichick on Mar 12, 2007 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep, Kennedy pitching and getting stretched out
by Charlie Brown on Mar 12, 2007 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmmm...
Lots of news on gameday in bottom left hand corner of the screen. Broken ankles and lots of other info being reported along with players playing game at minor facility etc.
If any of the AN redesigners are reading this...
New comments automatically show as "shrunk" when the thread reaches 100 comments. Can that number of comments be increased (like to 300 or 400) before the new ones start "shrink"ing?
agrree'd
also, can we move the comments over to the edge of the screen like it was before? Because it gives the illusion right now that all comments are replies.
In other words...
Can AN please look exactly like it did before? LOL
(I'm getting used to the "reply illusion" by noting whether or not there's a "[Parent]" on the comment... since only the replies will have that...)
That really couldn't be funnier.
Not only is that monotone going to be on the air, it's going to be on the air in the most mentally unstable fan setting in the country.
Maybe he'll have a hypnotic effect on them.
Calm them down...
Either that
Or Macha's going to start dropping f-bombs and talking about what a head case Manny Ramirez is.
Great for Macha. Will be able to apply
that Masters Degree in Engineering as an announcer. God, am I cutting down a fellow gentleman with a masters degree. Shame on me.
by Charlie Brown on Mar 12, 2007 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
good grief
sexson hits da bomb!
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 2:20 PM PDT reply actions
Ohhh off of Gaudin. Lost his virginity for the
spring. ERA no longer 0.00.
by Charlie Brown on Mar 12, 2007 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
This sucks
And I take personal responsibility for this. I obviously have not done enough anagrams for this game.
more anagrams hehe ..
.. feed philip's addiction but VERY entertaining ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
FIRE PHILIP CHRISTY NOW!
Has not registered on gameday yet. Does that
mean we can hit the back button and change the events that are supposedly happening? Would that not be great way for fans to change the outcome of games. Ha Ha Ha.
Vodoo-Doll effect ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Voodoo {sp} ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Too late Now it is posted
catcher Javy Lopez released by the Rockies from his $1M a year contract. Well, I guess we do not need any more catchers.
No more damage off of Gaudin in the inning.
5-0 Seattle. At least it does not count for anything except spring training.
RBI double for piazza, 5-1 seattle
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 2:35 PM PDT reply actions
kendall? - can't remember
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Nothing on gameday. Shows still at beginning of
sixth inning.
by Charlie Brown on Mar 12, 2007 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I also think Kendall...
Holy Toledo. A comeback in the works
Could the A's comeback once again to win a spring game? Listening to CNN... the Mayans are going to clean and purge their shrines of George Bush now that he is gone... He represents everything that they do not like. Great Line.
by Charlie Brown on Mar 12, 2007 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
What about Mel Gibson?
.. {gggg} ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
gameday now says Bradley works a walk
moving Kendall to second...
ugh, Bradley was replaced with Thomas, who promptly gets picked off first
Piazza batting, Chuckie $2 picked off first after
inserted as a pinchrunner for
Bradley. Now gameday going.
Flores in to pitch in 7th...
Reed batting for Seattle. Do we want to trade for him??? Lets us see him perform.
Whee! Shout out to me!
I'm honestly curious about both of those questions.
According to Buan...
...hard to ignore Barton's offensive numbers, but he thinks he needs more time in AAA regarding his glove.
by baseballgirl on Mar 12, 2007 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
How did you email him?
Do you have his email -- I have a few questions.
radio@oaklandathletics.org
at least that's how I emailed him last season. he read the message on the air, and a couple of months later I received 2 very good field level tickets for a September game.
We already have a starter at first base
But Buan...what if we want a different one?
by baseballgirl on Mar 12, 2007 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
buan said barton is only 21 ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Sooo...
...given the accuracy of a typical Buancast, should we assume Barton's really 12? Or 32?
by Loon from Left on Mar 12, 2007 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
look for him to start at first
but called up after AS break (so as not to waste a year of eligibility)...and I fully expect DJ to be gone somewhere by then.
I agree...
...unless DJ absolutely tanks April-June.
by baseballgirl on Mar 12, 2007 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I Haven't given up on DJ yet ..
.. see whether he hits better now that his "double-vision" has allegedly cleared up ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
even if he hits well
if Barton's D improves enough in half a season I think DJ is gone. Actually, if he hits he'll probably be easier to trade.
Looks like a long at bat... Gameday stopped agai
let's hope all losses to seattle come in ST ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 2:51 PM PDT reply actions
I would love to see that happen again, but I
doubt we will be that lucky again. May reverse itself this year and we lose em all. Oooooohhhh.
by Charlie Brown on Mar 12, 2007 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Great....
...according to Buan, Kennedy can struggle quite a bit before being replaced. He is the number 5 starter.
That IS great.
If that's what Buan said, in reality we just traded Kennedy, Witasick, and Bobby Crosby for Dontrelle Willis.
baseballgirl:
Algebra Bills
Illegal Barbs
Billable Rags
Gila Barbells
Sir Bagel Ball
Is Barbell Gal
Legal Blab, Sir
This is meant to be
the A's Rally Anagrams!
by Philip Christy on Mar 12, 2007 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Flores gives up 2 singles, but no further damage
in the inning. A's still behind 5-1 going to bottom of the 7th inning.
We're all gonna die:
A renegade I'll own
A leaden Niger owl
Green owned LAA (plus I and L)
Green owned LAAIL
by Loon from Left on Mar 12, 2007 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Flores with a second good inning. No damage.
jeremy brown a solo shot
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:03 PM PDT reply actions
beaten by four seconds ..
.. by that fleet-footed pirate ship .. {g} ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
was looking under my desk
and hit my head, then read about Brown.....did not believe it!!!???? ha! good for Jeremy!!!!
by curlichick on Mar 12, 2007 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Brown a HR... SOUNDS GREAT
Fat catchers rule!
While I'm here:
Bob Geren = beer bong
donnie murphy base hit
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
ADVANCED TO 2ND BASE BEFORE THE HR.
by Charlie Brown on Mar 12, 2007 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
blackpearl you are too damn fast!
.. {ggg} ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
durazo with 3-run bomb!
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:07 PM PDT reply actions
Jeremy Brown with a solo jack!
RUBY!!!!
Oh Durazo, how I've missed you!!!!
second one would be ..
.. Jesus {I think} .. {g} ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
philip_C and LAXile both candidates ..
.. for Anagram Addiction therapy .. {g} ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:10 PM PDT reply actions
gameday still on Melillo's AB
in the top of the eighth, so I guess I'll get to relive Brown's solo HR and Durazo's three run bomb to tie it...
Careful that you do not change the course
of events by reliving them...
by Charlie Brown on Mar 12, 2007 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Oakland Athletics:
Attack Halos Lined
Halal kitten codas
Hallo, ticked Satan!
Naked coital halts
Lacked halos taint
Stadia ankle cloth
X-Rating on 4th anagram! {g} ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't forget the Spanish ones:
BURILADO ZUREE
BULARIO ZURDEE
ALUDIERE BRUZO
AZULE DERRUBIO
ZUELA DERRUBIO
AZULO DERRUBIE
LUAZO DERRUBIE
translations, anyone?
mine too
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Grrr...yes
by baseballgirl on Mar 12, 2007 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Switch to Seattle's KOMO
by baseballgirl on Mar 12, 2007 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
just refresh the page again
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Why, yes...
by Loon from Left on Mar 12, 2007 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Try refreshing the whole screen
I think it only does that when you post a comment (in a 100+ comment thread), and expands everything while preserving the "new" tags when you refresh. (I think.) Not a permanent solution, but a workaround if it works.
by Loon from Left on Mar 12, 2007 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Nomar's lil brother is playing for seattle
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:20 PM PDT reply actions
I noticed that!
I was like...wait a minute...
by baseballgirl on Mar 12, 2007 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
error on furmaniac costs a run
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:21 PM PDT reply actions
yep -- unearned run
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Darn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Charlie Brown on Mar 12, 2007 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Chris Reitsma pitching, bocachica grounds out
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:27 PM PDT reply actions
another pitcher from the braves
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6657
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
two outs now ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Game Over!
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:28 PM PDT reply actions
btw MLB audio is back on A's channel
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
One Run Games
I hope this isn't a sign of things to come. So many one run games, I can't stand myself.
A lot of people can't stand me either, but I don'
think that it has to do with the amount of one run games the A's are in.
We love you blackpearl !!
.. our lovable spooky pirate ship! .. {g} ..
by Randy Bell on Mar 12, 2007 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Are we going to let . . . .
. . . . "the hot breath of youth on his neck" slide right by? Are we still in spring training ourselves or ready to fire away with both barrels?

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