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Location, Location, Location – An Advantage of The Bay Area?

The week before he was traded, Danny Haren was quoted as saying the following:

"I pay attention to it," Haren said Monday. "I read the newspaper, and I'm all over the Internet all the time for fantasy football and to see the trade rumors. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened, once the whole Santana thing becomes more clear.

"The first thing is, I don't want to be traded. My wife (Jessica) and I have a baby coming in a couple of weeks, and we have a home in the East Bay. But, obviously, we'll deal with it if it happens. And everyone that's been mentioned is a good team, which is nice."

Despite the obvious coolness of Danny Haren being addicted to fantasy football, there were a couple of things that stood out to me in this article. We are used to hearing lip service from our former (and current) players about how much they are going to miss the team, or how much they wish they could stay in Oakland, but what struck me about Haren was his seemingly genuine love for where he lives.

I understand the love of living in the Bay Area, especially if you are making a major league baseball player’s salary. California is a desirable place to live, especially if you are channel surfing the Cleveland Brown’s football game this morning.

But would any of us really trade a place to live for the chance of playing on a contending team? Clubhouse chemistry, good management, great friends, and a good neighborhood can only go so far before the bottom line of winning baseball rears its head. For as much as Haren will miss Oakland and his experiences here, it will make it easier when he’s playing for a contending Arizona team, as the A’s rebuild.

But that’s just from my point of view. As a player, I would rather play for a contending team, and live in my city of choice during the off-season instead. I’m not sure anything that a team could offer me would be worth more than that. For the record, that includes money. Being the highest played player on a non-contending team holds no appeal to me. But maybe that’s because I don’t see the difference between 125 and 126 million.

Poll
I would rather:
Play for a team in a city I love, at any cost
334 votes
Play for the most money possible
186 votes
Play on a contending team, at any cost
301 votes

821 votes | Poll has closed

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I know "real jobs" are different than

"playing baseball," but from my perspective, I might compromise on my choice of employer if it meant living where I wanted to live.  (But of course, not everyone is going to make that same choice.)

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by salb918 on Dec 16, 2007 10:40 AM PST reply actions  

At any cost?

So you'd take a job that paid $25K in the city of your choice over the same job that paid $250K in Phoenix?

Doubt it.

The whole "at any cost" caveat is the deal breaker for both choices other than playing for the most money.

by methodrampage on Dec 17, 2007 7:40 AM PST up reply actions  

By the same token

I could ask you'd take a job in Antarctica for $250 K over the same job in California for $249 K.

All three poll options are stated in absolute terms.  Either the poll is meaningless, or you assume that what it's really asking is which factor weighs more heavily for you.

"Ten times thy self were better than ten Hattebergs" -- Monkeyball, channeling Shakespeare

by iglew on Dec 17, 2007 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I picked money

I don't love any city that much more than another and I figure if I'm making a lot of money only contending teams would want me.

by WaddellCanseco on Dec 16, 2007 10:43 AM PST reply actions  

I picked money too..

Because when you think about it your baseball career is bound to be pretty short.  Make the most money you can then live wherever you want to for the rest of your life.

Not to mention you are one injury away from trying to learn some other trade skill.

by Roloc on Dec 16, 2007 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

location

i thought this story would be about haren's comment to slusser:

Out of all the teams mentioned, he'd most hoped to go to Arizona because, he said, he loves the area after spending three springs there.

it fits right in with sending hudson to atlanta and mulder to st louis (and i guess with not sending piazza to minnesota).

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Dec 16, 2007 10:49 AM PST reply actions  

For me ... and I suspet what Haren was really

getting at ...

In a job like Haren's, I would want stability and predictability. I would want to say, this is where I'm going to be staying for the next ten years, so that I could settle my family there and make a home for them without having to worry about uprooting them every year or two.

I would want my family in my team's home town, so I could go home to them whenever we're in town -- but if I couldn't rely on being there for a while, it wouldn't be fair to my family to expect them to follow me around as the trade winds blow, preventing them from building lives of their own, setting roots in a community and making friends.

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Dec 16, 2007 11:56 AM PST reply actions  

I picked winning, but...

...the poll lacked a really complete answer, I thought, and was a little too limited.  Winning, but I wouldn't want to bounce around from year to year, nor do I think I'd like the fishbowl atmosphere of the Yankees, either.

As far as money, in today's market I think that comes with winning and/or being good, to a large degree.

Location:  You can afford to live anywhere, and except for your family if you're married and where they want to live, you don't spend much time there during the season, anyway.

Then again I am a person who has as much desire as any player playing the game, but not an ounce of skill, so my peerspective is naturally skewed, I think.  As I have gotten older, and noticed how my priorities have changed, I quite often see the same thing in players as they get older, so there is no set answer.

"Rebuilding" is loser mentality.

by UncleLeo on Dec 16, 2007 12:25 PM PST reply actions  

Take the money and run

You will retire from MLB , still a relatively young man...and the extra money can be used to enrich your family for generations or be used for charity. and the difference between say 11 mill and 14 mill is a lot of difference in real time wealth. When you are very wealthy you can live well in any city.

by IM4Oakgal on Dec 16, 2007 1:04 PM PST reply actions  

while most players will say they love where they

are, Haren was one of the few (at least, among the A's) who actually lived in the  Bay Area in the offseason -- and the East Bay, to boot. He also chose to wear the Oakland uniforms whenever he started a road game (that is reportedly the starting pitcher's call).

But obviously, he's a professional. Once he saw that trade talks were serious he began hoping for a trade to the team that not only was contending, but also was located in another place that he likes. Also both his and his wife's family are from southern California, so Arizona was his first choice if he was to get traded.

by OaklandSi on Dec 16, 2007 5:07 PM PST reply actions  

I'm only leaving (trying that is)

here, for a promotion and prefer Denver area but I may have to compromise.

But I'd go just about anywhere for the bucks Haren makes.

count-down to ST.

by ak_A on Dec 17, 2007 7:52 AM PST reply actions  

I'd rather root for contender

Moving Haren is going to make the A's a real shore to watch/follow.  Much like the 49er's or Raiders.

by Kingkong on Dec 17, 2007 9:02 AM PST reply actions  

I'm torn because I hate losing

I can't stand losing in stuff that doesn't matter (like video games, card games, etc).  i can't imagine how I would feel losing at something that means more.

BUT I love my family and friends and wouldn't want to leave them either.

BUT I like money and it might make up for losing or being away from family (that sounds shallow when I read it back)

In the end, whatever my wife wanted would be what I would do because "Happy wife = happy life!"

A's all the way in 07 . . . oh never mind!

by micdog2001 on Dec 17, 2007 12:01 PM PST reply actions  

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