Well, the 50th annual Gold Gloves are out...

by danmerqury on Nov 7, 2007 10:02 AM PST Comment 15 comments

And Chavez, as expected, didn't get it.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...

AL:
C I. Rodriguez
1B K. Youkilis
2B P. Polanco
SS O. Cabrera
3B A. Beltre
OF I. Suzuki
OF T. Hunter
OF G. Sizemore
P J. Santana

NL:
C R. Martin
1B D. Lee
2B O. Hudson
SS J. Rollins
3B D. Wright
OF C. Beltran
OF A. Jones
OF J. Francoeur
OF A. Rowand
P G. Maddux

Hopefully these offseason surgeries will bring an actually healthy Chavez in '08.

*crosses fingers*

*again*

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Okay, so now I know...

When it comes to winning a Gold Glove while only playing a partial season, the difference lies somewhere between 98 (2005 Torii Hunter) and 90 (2007 Eric Chavez).

"It is almost impossible to exaggerate the complete unimportance of almost everything."

by Poppy on Nov 7, 2007 9:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

(number of games played, that is)

"It is almost impossible to exaggerate the complete unimportance of almost everything."

by Poppy on Nov 7, 2007 9:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Not that they consider offense, wink wink...

In 2005, Hunter batted .269/.337/.452 with 14 HR.
In 2007, Chavez batted .240/.306/.446 with 15 HR.

by danmerqury on Nov 7, 2007 10:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Also, thank you, Baseball Reference

For letting me know that Torii Hunter's middle name is Kedar.

by danmerqury on Nov 7, 2007 10:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

OH, that's right.

I'm sorry. Totally forgot about ofgrudzielanekfense.

"It is almost impossible to exaggerate the complete unimportance of almost everything."

by Poppy on Nov 7, 2007 10:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

wasn't Ofgrudzielanekfense ...

... a character in The Handmaid's Tale?

I've struck out my whole life. I've come to grips with it. ~ Jack Cust @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 7, 2007 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If I hadn't read that book so long ago,

I'd know if that joke was funny. :P

"It is almost impossible to exaggerate the complete unimportance of almost everything."

by Poppy on Nov 7, 2007 11:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I saw as many Mariners games as A's games this year. Even aside from the question of playing time, Beltre showed better defense than Chavez this year. Chavez was still good, but not as good as he used to be.

Chavez is still my favorite player on the A's, and I'm rooting for him to win the GG back next year. But I want him to do it by showing the play that earns it. Beltre earned it this year.

"Ten times thy self were better than ten Hattebergs" -- Monkeyball, channeling Shakespeare

by iglew on Nov 7, 2007 10:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, yeah, I know.

I felt the same way about Orlando Hudson 2 years ago... I'm really not that biased... ;)

"It is almost impossible to exaggerate the complete unimportance of almost everything."

by Poppy on Nov 7, 2007 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

"Dude, it's not a glove"

< cough >

I've struck out my whole life. I've come to grips with it. ~ Jack Cust @('.')@

by monkeyball on Nov 7, 2007 11:41 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

These are actually not horrible

although, much as I knew it was inevitable, the omission of Ellis still irks me. He's had two historically amazing defensive seasons at second base and gotten absolutely zero recognition for it.

Otherwise, the only really egregious decisions seem to have been leaving out Granderson (much superior to Ichiro or Hunter) and including Andruw Jones. Chase Utley should have won the NL 2nd base GG, but that one's not absurdly outrageous.

by PaulThomas on Nov 7, 2007 6:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I know that Brandon Phillips ...

plays for a team that doesn't get much praise but I thought he should have gotten a gold glove.
990 FP , 8 errors, 113 DPs, 341 POs in 156 games.
And Ellis being left off of the list once again ticks me off.

What are Mark's numbers Versus Polanco?

by IM4Oakgal on Nov 7, 2007 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

There are a bunch of fielding metrics

all of them have MaEl #1 for 2007, most of them by a pretty wide margin.

Everything is really important.

by mikeA on Nov 7, 2007 7:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

I need to go look at those...because I know this will come up with all of my baseball buddies at work. I want to be prepared.

by IM4Oakgal on Nov 7, 2007 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

DId I miss an AN reference to this site?

I had no idea this (http://www.fieldingbible.com/) existed until I saw a link to it on another forum yesterday.

(It may have been in a DLD over here, but I've been so fascinated by the "good sportswriting" and potential 2008 schedule threads that I haven't been reading everything else AN as closely as I should...)

by PositionPlayerProd on Nov 8, 2007 8:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs