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If There Was Ever A Football Game to Watch...

Well, after the lousiness that was the A’s 2007 season, and the disappointment of the World Series, and the looming possibility of a 2008 Angels team with A-rod [insert your own descriptive phrase here], we need a distraction.

Even if you never watch football, except for those Super Bowl parties with the really terrible games, you might want to consider making today the exception. This game will be a preview of the AFC championship game, and if that means nothing to you, consider that both quarterbacks are not only at their peak, but are already stone-cold locks for the Hall of Fame, even if their careers ended today.

Both of these teams are undefeated, and not one football expert in the world would argue that these aren’t the two best teams in the NFL. The Colts, behind Peyton Manning, will host the Patriots with Tom Brady and the controversial Bill Belichick, as we set the stage for the drama that is today’s game.

Just a suggestion if you need some sports action today...otherwise feel free to use this thread to talk about A-rod as Scrooge McDuck or why baseball is better than football.

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Grumble...

Who the hell schedules a job interview for 2 PM on a Sunday???

Enjoy the game, gang! Go Colts!

by Sixto on Nov 4, 2007 11:18 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I dated a girl who was friends with the Mods...

She went to UCSD. :)

"Schleep is for babies. Gamers play all night." Nintendo Fanactic

by capper3 on Nov 4, 2007 12:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

some out-of town views on A's offseason

Houston Chronicle writer José de Jesús Ortiz' take on what the A's may do (he'll be covering the GM meetings this coming week):

A's
Have to figure out which direction they're headed, whether they're buyers or sellers. Beane keeps hinting about rebuilding, in which case anyone (definitely Joe Blanton and possibly even including Dan Haren) might be on the market for a collection of top prospects - the A's system is so thin, even Beane has admitted as much, a real rarity.

But the rebuilding might start at midseason 2008 or after the 2008 season if Beane is convinced Oakland can contend with better health next year. In which case, the A's are on the lookout for a relatively inexpensive starter, someone either coming off an injury or on the downside of his career. Possible other areas the A's could use an upgrade: shortstop and catcher.

Roster crunch means that 1B Dan Johnson can be had for next to nothing.

Expect that the A's will be a rumored destination for Bonds, but it's unlikely they'll do much beyond courtesy conversations, much as they did last year. Owvnership isn't interested in the headache and the A's have a much cheaper DH in Jack Cust.

by OaklandSi on Nov 4, 2007 1:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Perotti...

over at BP said the same thing about dealing Blanton and/or Haren...but the thought leaves me ill. I have grown tired of the tight-fisted ways of the current owner and of Beane. Now that everyone knows about Moneyball it's not as effective. and the A's cheapness wears on my nerves.  Keep the two young players and go out and spend money. OK... That's my rant.

by IM4Oakgal on Nov 4, 2007 4:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Right, how much for Grady Sizemore?

$50 million? $100?

Spending money won't get the A's what they need-- young guys with superstar potential. Teams don't sell prospects of that quality unless it's for a quality player in return.

Look, the Giants have all kinds of money, and they're in the exact same position-- they're going to need to trade some of their young star pitchers in order to get enough prospects. What you're suggesting the A's do is exactly what the Giants have been doing for the last 5 years... and we've seen how well that's worked out.

by PaulThomas on Nov 4, 2007 4:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We have some really good players.

Adding just one more good SP and two decent bats would do the trick. I don't agree with you that the Giants have been doing that...because they did not have a strong core to start from.

by IM4Oakgal on Nov 4, 2007 4:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree.

Throwing an enormous sum of money for one long term player is not a likely solution for the A's.  

I am beginning to wonder if the Dodgers don't have the inside track on signing Rodriguez.  It's a media town and A-Rod is a media guy.  It also doesn't place to much emphasis on actually winning.  He would fit in nicely with Torre and Mattingly and give the Dodgers a Yankee's west flair.  They certainly have the cash to get a deal done and little regard for the new management philosophy invading the sacrosanct old school baseball culture.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Nov 4, 2007 5:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I m anot suggesting

going for an Arod type. I am suggesting adding payroll and adding 3  more players to our team. Good players ..not superstars. It will cost money but why can't the A's owner do that? He makes a good profit from the A's I'll bet. I remember a time when they did spend money, before moneyball. It was rather nice. :-)

by IM4Oakgal on Nov 4, 2007 6:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

OOps

I meant: I am not. I better start looking at preview.

by IM4Oakgal on Nov 4, 2007 6:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not against the A's spending a little money.

I think we need another SP and a RH bat with a little pop.  Preferably one that can play SS or CF.  I certainly don't think the A's need to "rebuild".  We've built.  That's why we have the guys on the field that we do.  Could they have used a little more "seasoning" in the minors?  Probably so.  However, I still think this team has a chance to contend next year as constituted, even if we don't trade for the players we all think we need.    

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Nov 4, 2007 7:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I also agree...

that in no way are we in rebuild mode and that the necessary adjustments via a mini rebuild have already been made for us to be competitive.  I mentioned this in another thread but the one move I'd make is that if Kotsay is a Wash favorite and if TEX was interested, I'd move him.  That would clear off some money on the books and be plenty to go after a FA bat or can be used toward signing Street or Blanton long term.  Without moving Kotsay we should still have enough money moved to go after a FA.    

by AsWin on Nov 4, 2007 7:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think...

that for me at least that the ill feeling is that a major rebuild this offseason is the wrong plan of action.  I can understand why BB might want to move Street and Blanton (due to their arby situation making them too expensive to keep) and even Ellis (since he is a FA after 2008) but in no way can I understand the logic of even pondering a move of Swisher or Danny.  We need some people still to set the bar and be leaders in their own way.  

I've written before a lengthy reasoning as to why this offseason it is foolish to move Danny but in the most basic of terms, he is a staff leader and a cheap ace and somebody, who along with Swisher, does help to sell seats.  Not to mention, Danny lives in the area year round and can be an important marketing/PR piece through the rebuild (if/when it is to occur).  I worry about the precedent BB sets by pondering (much less pulling the trigger) moving a willing staff leader who is coming off an all star starter year with Cy Young talk and one of the best AL ERAs.  Where is the incentive to want to take a leadership role and achieve if you are going to be shipped off ASAP?  And who is going to step up and be staff leader and teach the younger guys much like Zito did?  I think that is why Danny falls under the maybe category since even though in a rebuild everything could go, Danny seems to be the one logically BB should keep on the pitching side.  Now of course, I'm not discounting the fact that Danny does have trade value, but it will remain stable and we need what he brings outside of the stats more right now.  Danny and Swisher will still be of great help when we contend again if a rebuilding were to occur.      

I know if Danny was moved, for the 2007 he had, I'd be severely disappointed.  I don't think anyone here is going to make any drastic statements but I can understand why more casual fans would lose interest.  I have to agree with Santana, and I'm paraphrasing, when he said that if you keep looking to the future, you'll never get there.  The problem is prospects is that they might never get there.  We have a core to build from and I'd hate to see it be blown up just to result in us remaining in a continual cycle of losing.  (Which is of course a possibility).      

Bottom line is that although anyone can speculate I'm hoping that BB has enough sense to recognize how vital Danny and Swisher are to us and makes those two the untouchables they have earned.  If not, and if either are moved, I know for one I'll be extremely concerned.  

by AsWin on Nov 4, 2007 6:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Brett Favre is...

[swoon]

"That doesn't happen in Spiderman."

by Jennifer on Nov 4, 2007 1:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

<thud>
Like I told a guy on another board, just because the Rockies play after your bedtime, doesn't mean they can't pound your precious RedSox. -510inDenver

by baseballgirl on Nov 4, 2007 1:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.
"That doesn't happen in Spiderman."

by Jennifer on Nov 4, 2007 1:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm watching the Colts-Patriots game

quite a contrast from the SF-Atlanta game -- imagine what good execution of plays can do!

by OaklandSi on Nov 4, 2007 1:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

No one ever

tells me about the time change. And when they do I just forget.

by mikeA on Nov 4, 2007 3:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The only time I care about the NFL

is the playoffs.  And only then because it means that Spring training draws nigh.  Football is a "made for TV sport" while baseballs lure lies in attending the games in person.  Football as a sport is brutal, coarse, and vulgar and is played in a cold indifferent climate devoid of promise.  Little wonder it has such appeal in our culture these days.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Nov 4, 2007 3:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The NE/IND
game is as good as expected. Right now the Pats are ahead...boo! The Bostonians are already insufferable.

by IM4Oakgal on Nov 4, 2007 4:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

that was one heckuva

football game -- I'm glad I decided to watch it.

by OaklandSi on Nov 4, 2007 4:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If there was ever a game to watch.....

and I missed it.  

count-down to ST.

by ak_A on Nov 4, 2007 5:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I've never been a football fan,
But that was pretty exciting. People were diving through the air on both the offense and defense of both teams, which is immensely more entertaining than both sides just piling up on one another.

by RenoTy on Nov 4, 2007 5:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

and the cleveland seattle game

with the field goal to tie in the last second, wow.

by jahs34 on Nov 4, 2007 5:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I went to the horse races today

my first time ever, in the continual search for offseason amusements.   Pleasant enough, at the shabby-genteel old racetrack Bay Meadows, although I can't see doing more than once or twice a year.  I lost $12, but got a free folding chair. There was a guy in the paddock with the trainers who was wearing a Travis Buck T-shirt, but since he wasn't associated with any particular horse I couldn't make a wager on that basis.  Of course if I had, the poor horse would have probably gone on the DL.

Pitchers and catchers report February 9, 2008! (tentative)

by Englishmajor on Nov 4, 2007 7:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The DL for a horse

is bad.  Really really bad.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Nov 4, 2007 7:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Do horses have knees?

Bookie:  Do horses have knees?

Tom:  Fetlocks.

Bookie:  Well, if I was a horse, I'd be down on my fetlocks praying you don't bet on me.

Able was I ere I saw Elba.

by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2007 9:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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