Open Thread: 2007 Playoffs, Day Two
Yesterday's non-A's-related/why-are-they-still-playing results:
Colorado 4
Philadelphia 2
Rockies lead series 1-0
LA Angels 0
Boston 4
Red Sox lead series 1-0
Chi Cubs 1
Arizona 3
Diamondbacks lead series 1-0
My statistically inflected observations on the trends in the playoffs thus far:
- Without exception, every single series underway is, in terms of W/L, an infinite statistical rout. If current patterns hold, the Cubs, Angels, and Phillies will never win another single game.
- In a related note, again, if events observed to date maintain their predictable pattern, the Yankees-Indians series will never reach its conclusion. This could have some alarming consequences.
- So far, not a single one of the winning teams has been shut out. Draw from that your own conclusion.
- On the other hand, only one of the losing teams has been shut out; analysis of whether being shut out directly correlates with losing is as yet inconclusive.
- The team with the earlier-ranked-by-alpha-sort place name has won every game thus far; if the second trend above somehow is broken, this bodes well for Cleveland (and would have doomed the Oakland A's no matter their opponent this year).
< applies for John Shea's position at the Chron >
Today's game schedule (all game times Greenwich Mean Time):
- Colorado at Philadelphia 8:00 p.m.
- New York at Cleveland 11:37 p.m.
- Chicago at Arizona 3:00 a.m.
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drat that &%$# poll function with too many slots!
The last option was supposed to be:
- Pierzynski (chokes on a pretzel while watching the playoffs on TV)
why would you put vlad and pronk
in the poll? they're not going to "win".
I'm a Paul/Keyes/Gravel fan
and I only included Manny ...
... so that mikeA could vote his conscience.
That being what,
Schilling or Lackey, Schilling or Lackey
how to choose between them? it's like the series itself.
no contest for me: Clemens above all others
Bonds:HollywoodOz::Clemens:monkeyball
Who the hell is "Pronk"?
You guys and your crazy nicknames. I can't keep track of them all.
Pronk = Hafner
Per wikipedia:His nickname, "Pronk", was given to him by former teammate Bill Selby during spring training of 2003 when people would sometimes refer to him as "The Project" and other times "Donkey" for the way he looked when running the bases.
among many nick names, phrases in AN
world, that was one of them I did not know nor actually had a burning desire to know...just a casual one.
radio?
Anyone have a link to an internet feed for the game? I can't remember what yesterday's was.....
oh wait, found it....
I don't know if this is the game or not, but I found it...thank you Wichita!
Ahhh!
The GMT times are an hour off; I didn't realize the game had already started (we're GMT -7 in daylight savings).
Three Chavez home runs in the first inning
I thought you had to be able to "manufacture" runs to score in the playoffs.
How can Lackey get hurt?
He isn't going to be pitching again until April.
foul ball into the dugout
injured in a bar fight in Boston
Smiling
Caught sight of himself in a mirror
by green star oakland on Oct 4, 2007 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
got in a fight with himself in a mirror ...
... and lost.
diagnosed with slack-jaw-itis
he got sling bladed
Both starters out in the 4th - 20 outs combined
What's the post season record for fewest out by both starters combined ?
by green star oakland on Oct 4, 2007 1:36 PM PDT reply actions
Probably not the record
but I found a game where the starters combined to get 12 outs. Andy Pettitte got 11 and Gil Heredia chipped in with 1.
I'd forgotten Pettite got pulled so early
whereas I remember Heredia's debacle only too clearly.
by green star oakland on Oct 4, 2007 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
what a tough poll question.....
i hate so many of these players. this may be tougher than deciding which team to cheear against, the angels or red sox. i find myself hoping they ALL get hurt and both teams lose. doesnt make sense, i know, but i cant cheer for either of those teams, yet im hooked in playoff baseball, and saddned every time i realize we're not playing today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by PSHABAZ on Oct 4, 2007 2:03 PM PDT reply actions
here comes a jose mesa meltdown
Fortunately Philly is a very forgiving town ...
by green star oakland on Oct 4, 2007 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
A serenade of boos...
...with a little bit of the old "Mesa Sucks! chant mixed in.
Meanwhile, Omar Vizquel cracks open a beer.
i'd like to say i called it
but omar vizquel deserves all the credit:
"The eyes of the world were focused on every move we made. Unfortunately, Jose's own eyes were vacant. Completely empty. Nobody home. You could almost see right through him. Not long after I looked into his vacant eyes, he blew the save and the Marlins tied the game."
I recall when Mesa blew it vs the A'
Managed to be at that game, and that was sweet.
Wasn't a blown save though because it wasn't a Save situation when he came in. Go figure!
rockies first base coach
wearing a batting helmet. are other base coaches doing that now? this is the first time i've noticed it...
Glenallen Hill
started wearing one in the wake of Mike Coolbaugh's death.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/s...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Oct 4, 2007 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
The
Denver Rockies of Colorado truly are God's team.
Wang is throwing so many pitches
he may go limp before long.
/OK, I'll grow up some day.
If that doesn't happen in the next four hours
they'll be giving you a call.
not me, wrong kind of doc
should called myself doctorK, PhD
The only advice I could give them would be for Wang to take a cold shower, or have him check out some eastern european porn from the 1970's
Such a hairy decade. 70's porn
is like watching a documentary covering dwarves. Whoever imagined there could be so much hair 36 inches from the ground?
Just a random thought
but I was looking at gameday and noticed that the Yankees do not have a lefty in their pen (Pettitte is the only lefty pitcher on the postseasaon roster).
Isn't that a bad idea when two of the biggest hitters for the Indians are lefties? Just seems a vet like Villone for a high leverage out vs Hafner or Sizemore or even Lofton would have been useful.
how about lebron james
wearing a yankees cap at the cleveland ballpark.
and growing up in the cleveland area and being a fan of the yankees, jordan-era bulls, and cowboys.
Fair amount of anti-James invective
at LetsGoTribe right now (took me a minute to figure out who LBJ referred too - I didn't think they were doing some kind of Vietnam flashback).
I'm not saying, Indians fans ...
... you never had it so good -- but isn't that the case?
five straight
all in the same minute.
and then later in the thread your buddy sager is mistaken for marv albert.
i just lost a lot of respect for the guy

ASS
at least it's not a *pink* Yankees cap
When Craig Sager asked him...
...if he was a front-runner for liking the Bulls, Cowboys and Yankees, he said (paraphrasing) "Well, the Yankees haven't been doing too well the past couple of years, so we'll see..."
On behalf of fans of teams who haven't been to the playoffs 12 straight years, I say to Lebron: "SHUT UP NOW."
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Oct 4, 2007 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
When he said that
I just laughed. Like, wait a second... you seriously think that? lol
again, in CLEVELAND
crap.
Come on Indians!!
CC must've heard you
Posada strikes out, Matsui pops up.
And how about that un-clutch A-Rod so far, as compared to Mr Yankee Jeter.
I hope they can add some runs here!
I haven't been paying that close of attention to even know what they're doing as individuals haha but I'm sure if I catch any ESPN programs they'll break down each Yankee at bat pitch by pitch.
Come on Pronk
WOOOOO!!!!!!
Yay! Let's go Tribe!
YEAHH!!
Alright Victor!!
Inverse of my poll question
Which player in the playoffs are you most hoping to see with tears and Champagne streaming down his face as he holds the WS trophy?
For me, no question: Lofton.
easy: jason kendall
tears streaming down kendall's face, is that even possible?
I could see tears
especially if he's on the bench the entire series.
the tears *themselves* would cry in pain ...
... as each impaled itself on a piece of his facial grit.
Hell yeah! 7-3 Tribe!
hahaha
Everytime I see someone running when the ball goes to Johnny Damon I think of Travis Buck lol
Alright Tribe!
Now just hang on!
Why no Giambi on that list?
by 3Chavy3 on Oct 4, 2007 5:55 PM PDT reply actions
What happened to the sound on TBS?
I LOVE IT!!!
HAHAHAHA! Take that Yankees!
Wow, this is AWESOME!!
and the Yankees pitching goes downhill from here
Until this game is over...
...it's not.
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Oct 4, 2007 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
it's close to over
i'm starting to flip between this game and s.carolina-kentucky, and i don't even care for college football.
Oooh...good idea
I had forgotten that was on.
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Oct 4, 2007 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm such a sucker at the beginning of the tv
season. I can't wait til tomorrow for Friday Night Lights.
LOVE Friday Night Lights
I think everyone should watch it. It's totally underrated and amazing.
I don't know about the TV show
but the book was tremendous, still worth reading (even though I think the time period was late 1980's; still very relevant).
I'm planning to go to my first HS football game
here in Texas this season. I don't think it's quite like that here because we're such a metropolitan area, but I totally believe it's like that in smaller towns. When I was looking for a house and passed these large stadiums, I thought a college was nearby. Couldn't believe it was for high school.
"Nobody thought the Indians...
...could outslug the Yankees in a short series", according to Chip Caray.
Well, they haven't exactly done it yet, but I can certainly imagine how someone who thinks Jeter should have been bunting when the Yanks were down 2 runs in the top of the 5th might think that.
Chip has neither any understanding nor appreciation of the American League game. I understand that TBS considers him their #1 announcer and therefore of course wanted him to work the Yankees series...but he absolutely should be on one of the NL series.
i'm pretty much at the point
where i think 95% of baseball announcers just need to die.
okay we need to sign kenny lofton to play CF
Hilarious...
"Kenny Lofton has just driven his fourth run of the night! A career high!"
<cut to commercial>
"I hear Kenny Lofton's on the move again..."
Geesh...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Oct 4, 2007 6:29 PM PDT reply actions
yankee haters may enjoy reading through
this game thread tonight...
http://www.replacementlevel.com/
"Bloop Job"
makes me stop thinking of baseball for a few seconds...
hehe

a's should hire lou holtz as bench coach
did anyone else just see his florida pre-lsu game pep talk on espn?
Did not...
...but now I'm picturing Lou Holtz in an A's uniform. Do they make unis that small?
Of course, if he became bench coach, he'd eventually become manager, which would make for some interesting press conferences.
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Oct 4, 2007 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
i really believe
that i could beat the LSU football team right now.
i saw one he did
for michigan before they played oregon. it was great and all but then mich got their asses handed to them in a sack so, pep talks only go so far.
you've noticed how Lou
seems to spit while talks too...the past few years, when he is on, i feel i might have to wipe my screen off.
i think he has a lisp
Might start on TNT...
...like Yankees-Indians did while Rockies-Phillies finished up.
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Oct 4, 2007 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
<switches to Cubs game>
Wow, so optimal
why did they bring him along, again?
Since when is DMB ballpark music?
What happened to Ken-doll?
by Amnesiac727 on Oct 4, 2007 8:00 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, he's sanding the bench.
it's fake baseball
chris young!
3-2 d-backs. poor ted lilly.
Watching this game
has made me very confused as to how Lilly managed to have an excellent year in a hitter's park.
lilly is actually pretty decent
i can't say anything bad about him, his wife is a grad student at UCD and he was the one guy who came through for us in the 2003 playoffs.
What just happened?
I left at 2-0 Cubbies.
more evidence that A's Nation rules!!!
So there I was, thinking that the blog site for Rockies fans would be red-hot right now. Fascinated as I am by their run, I thought I would take a look.
Even in a down-year, this A's site routinely draws plenty of writers and many, many comments, the Rockies site currently boasts TWO RESPONSES to the 2-0 series lead that the Rockies currently enjoy. What the ????
So that makes A's Nation the #1 fan site in all of baseball, right?
Not so fast
I love AN, just as I love the A's, as much as anyone here. But as a lurker over the past few days, I've actually been pretty impressed with the level of conversation over at Purple Row. They're a smart group of fans in their own right, and their game threads for the one-game playin with the Padres, were fan-friggin-tastic.
Again, I don't say that to demean AN or anything of the sort, I just want to give equal props to the Rockies and their fans. In many ways, they remind me of how Mariner fans looked during the heady postseason of 1995. From any vantage point, Seattle is a true blue baseball city. The Mariners' run in 1995 is a large reason why this came to pass. And while I know that the Broncos exert a heavy pull, it wouldn't surprise me to see Denver become a pretty dedicated baseball city over the next few years. They're a solid fanbase, it just takes them a bit more time to jump into active threads than it takes AN. :)
Teams of destiny.
The Rockies and the D'backs. To bad they are both in the NL. It would have made a great series.
I suspect that Time Warner/TBS
does not share your enthusiasm at the prospect of a Colorado-Arizona NLCS, when they could have Chicago-Philadelphia instead. I think it will be fascinating if it happens, though.
I suspect you are indeed correct!
I imagine the networks are salivating at the thought of the Cubs making it all the way to game seven of the WS.
Me personally, I'd like to see an even century worth of futility and frustration consumated. That has to be some sort of sporting record.
Frank Thomas could pick his teeth
with Alfonso Soriano.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Oct 4, 2007 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently tonight, at least,
he could race Soriano for money.
Frank *does* love a good wager
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Oct 4, 2007 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
From LetsGoTribe
Highest WPA:
Victor Martinez .177
Kenny Lofton .162
Ryan Garko .099Lowest WPA:
LeBron James -∞
Travis Hafner -.023
CC Sabathia -.014
anything significant happen in this game
during the several minutes that the KNBR 1050 am broadcast of the game went dead?
Scott Eyre?
Didn't he blow something for the Gnats in 2002?
Harden
I assume when you say he reaches for a ball, you are including when he bends over to pick up the ball at the start of the game.
actually I was referring to Harden's
own statement that he was totally healthy until he reached for a grounder with his bare hand during his start against the Yankees last April, which according to him caused him to lose basically the entire season.
But your interpretation might be more accurate.
Second and foremost??
Kerry Wood's ERA
Holy carp, TBS, haven't you ever heard of small sample size? Only 24 1/3 IP this year.
He does look like he's throwing well right now, and he has to be happy Dusty Baker isn't around to send him out for another 150 pitch marathon.
It's now official
I am now pulling for the Rockies to go all the way.
Reason here

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