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2007 World Series Champion Boston Red Sox

I don't want to, but I will. I tip my cap to the best team in the league over the regular season, and who carried that over to the postseason. The Red Sox did it all...and did it all well. Pitching, hitting, depth; it was all there for them at all the right times.

Colorado just came up short as the magic wore off. There isn't much more to say than that.

HOWEVER, how in the WORLD did Jonathan Papelbon not win the MVP? I truly cannot understand that pick. When you save three out of four games, all of which required 1+ innings of work, and all were close games, how on earth are you not the MVP?

And the irony of Bobby Kielty hitting the game winning, World Series clinching homerun is not lost on this A's fan.

Baseball is over.

<sigh>

When does Spring Training start? And will the A's be any good?

Stay tuned to AN for off-season fun. Thanks for being a part of 2007 with us!

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Yes and the regular

season bearable too. and Hopefully the off-season will go quickly. I am so glad I found this site so that I can know all of the latest developments with the A's  as they happen. :-)

by IM4Oakgal on Oct 28, 2007 9:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

agree 100% on Papelbon being MVP

you are spot on

Baseball is life. . . at least that is what my sweatshirt says.

by 0R0H0E on Oct 28, 2007 9:50 PM PDT   0 recs

Congrats to the BoSox

for winning the anti-climactic World Series.

Right now, I'm just glad I have a new job because I just can't hear it from this Patriots/Sox former co-worker.

Gordon Gecko sez "Greed is Good!"

Just kidding.

We'll get 'em next year!

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on Oct 28, 2007 9:51 PM PDT   0 recs

I missed it - who won series MVP?

Bud Selig? ("I'd like to present this award to myself!") Derek Jeter? (If so, great call.) Ellsbury? Beckett? Lowell? Josh Fogg? (He really helped the Red Sox win it.)

One thing the Red Sox did well that isn't all about Ortiz & Manny is that they really knew how to "get 'em over, get 'em in" when they had opportunities - they really don't throw many fish back.

Final thought for the night: The Rockies, when they weren't winning 21 of 22 by magically playing over their heads and out of their minds? A .500 team. Fun ride, though. Till this week. :-(

And bad Klown. Very, very bad klown!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Oct 28, 2007 9:51 PM PDT   0 recs

Get 'em over, get 'em in?

One thing the Red Sox did well that isn't all about Ortiz & Manny is that they really knew how to "get 'em over, get 'em in" when they had opportunities - they really don't throw many fish back.

You know, one might-- if one was so inclined-- draw some lessons from the fact that this exact same team was bitterly castigated in the local media for NOT doing exactly this at a sufficiently high rate during the regular season.

by PaulThomas on Oct 28, 2007 10:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah but isn't that par for the course from the

media, especially in Boston?

To me finding fault in a team that won 96 games seems a little silly.

"I'll say it's over. Use common sense." - Jose Canseco after the A's went up 3-0 in the '90 ALCS. (A's swept).

by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 28, 2007 10:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I was too indifferent to both teams.

I just dislike both of their fan-bases.

Rockies fans (who are probably also Denver Jackass fans) showed their true class chewing out Eric Byrnes (who I still miss) left and right on Sports talk radio.

And our qualms about Red Sox fans are well documented. As a Raiders fan, I have to say, once again that the Red Sox "Nation" is fictional and fraudulent.

Like I said earlier, congrats to the team but never to the fans.

Green Hulk Fists

by oaklandSMASH on Oct 28, 2007 9:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree F\/CK the red sox!!!!!!!!!!

I can't stand their arrogant fans, especially the ones that come to Oakland.

Boston Red Sox: more minorities on the field than in the stands since 1957.

by uci anteater on Oct 28, 2007 10:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Awww bless

You'll really hate next year then.

Do I match my 2004 cap with my 2007 t-shirt? Or my 2004 t-shirt with my 2007 cap?

It'll be a festival of smuggy smug smugness.

I am a bitter Red Sox fan.

by FlynnSox on Oct 29, 2007 12:10 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Naw...
Us thug A's fans secretly like it when the Sox come to town. It mean we can match your obnoxiousness and it also means a good physical fight or two or three. Coming from the Fruitvale district, there's nothing like beating up a few rich yuppie white boys.

by uci anteater on Oct 29, 2007 9:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Heh

Yeah, the Contra Costa County crowd's real hardcore, y'all.

Anyway, if we're going to play internet hardboyzzzz, I'm from the Mission and live in Lewisham, London, so excuse me if I fail to be impressed by your internet bravado.

I am a bitter Red Sox fan.

by FlynnSox on Oct 29, 2007 3:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You guys were a lot of fun!

Hope this time next year we're looking at multiple threads with 400 plus comments.  Go A's!  

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Oct 28, 2007 9:55 PM PDT   0 recs

I am not sold on Papelbon winning MVP

He got four outs in Game 2 of a one-run game (picking off a runner that he allowed on)

He got four outs last night, coming in with a 9-5 lead (and two men on). He recorded the last three outs with a 10-5 lead.

Tonight he got five outs to protect a one-run lead.

Yeah he did his job, in sometimes choppy waters, but can't really say he was Most Valuable.

---

I caught on at the end of the year here and enjoyed it. Made an otherwise A's-less and drama-free playoffs somewhat bearable.

I'll leave with this stat: the Series has become a bore. Only one game over the minimum since 2004. Three sweeps in four years is unprecedented in Fall Classic history. Not feeling classic these days.

"I'll say it's over. Use common sense." - Jose Canseco after the A's went up 3-0 in the '90 ALCS. (A's swept).

by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 28, 2007 10:46 PM PDT   0 recs

Unfortunately,

this postseason was about as boring and drama-free as one could possibly have envisioned.

by PaulThomas on Oct 28, 2007 10:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Unless you own Taco Bell stock.
We should play Jack Cust at shortstop for a week, just so we can feel good about Crosby again.

by Ozzz on Oct 28, 2007 11:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Really?

9 outs with a one run lead isnt Most Valuable?  How exactly could a closer be more valuable??  A 5 out save and a 4 out save.....with ONE run leads..in the WORLD SERIES??  What do you want from the guy..that's a true closer in every sense of the word.  None of this 3 outs with a 3 run lead stuff there.

And that guy he got out with a 9-5 lead?  Only the best hitter in the NL and likely MVP who had hit a three run 450 homer the at bat before.

Paps was the MVP of this series and it wasn't close, he was electric.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Oct 29, 2007 12:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Glad it's over

I'll give the Red Sox credit for bringing up young players and letting them shine.  The combination of a smart front office AND big money is difficult to beat.

I wasn't interested in rooting for the Rockies as the latest proxy for a small-market team going up against Goliath.

If it had been a classic, I would have been pulled in.  But it wasn't, so let's get it over with.

by bear88 on Oct 28, 2007 10:53 PM PDT   0 recs

No doubt.

Most of the unconsolidated thoughts I had about this year's WS, bear just wrapped up in a handful of nice little sentences.

I kinda feel bad for Todd Helton, but whatever.

It's almost like winning twice when you beat the Angels." -- Milton Bradley

by Elvez on Oct 28, 2007 11:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Credit to Kielty for his dinger.

Though, if I were one to try to find fault...

It's Coors Field.
They left a lefty in against him.

It was bound to happen.

We should play Jack Cust at shortstop for a week, just so we can feel good about Crosby again.

by Ozzz on Oct 28, 2007 11:15 PM PDT   0 recs

irony is

Kielty beat the A's with a pinch-hit home run years ago, and I think it "zinged" BBeane enough to trade for the guy.  Seems like Billy's MO is to grab guys who hit home runs against the A's.  Carlos Pena is another.  I also felt he traded for Rincon after that pitcher made the A's look like single-A players in consecutive ABs.

The World Series had it's moments, but really, the apex of a season should not be played at night.  That doesn't honor tradition.  That doesn't do anything for baseball.  It helps advertising execs sell advertising.

I guess with Google's "out of nowhere" billions in revenue with advertising, that is now what this country is "all about".

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Oct 29, 2007 10:31 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

"it's moments" was a mistake

missed that...dayum!  One of the WORST values to surface on the internet.  Musta infected me.

s/b "its moments".  Pronomials need no apostrophe.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Oct 29, 2007 10:34 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Kielty was miced up...

"who is stealing a check now, bitch? who is stealing a check now?"

just becuase you eat a bowl of wheaties and wear champions sweats: it doesn't make you a winner

by Erik being Erik on Oct 28, 2007 11:18 PM PDT   0 recs

Boring series. AN made it fun.

Thanks for a great year. I was bummed Elsbury didn't get the mvp. He's impressive. I'm psyched for next year and (hold your breath) a full season on Rich Harden. Go A's!

by A'sfansince1970 on Oct 28, 2007 11:27 PM PDT   0 recs

Don't hold your breath

I'm morosely certain that he has undiagnosed structural damage in his shoulder, which will be discovered just soon enough for him to miss essentially all of next year.

by PaulThomas on Oct 29, 2007 12:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Kielty

Congrats to Kielty. He is a good guy and it brings a smile to my face to see that the A's at least had a part in winning the world series. It is good to see Ronald McDonald do well.

Ben "The Party" Hall GO A's

by benhall2121 on Oct 28, 2007 11:53 PM PDT   0 recs

Hey AN, it's been fun.

Far better than any other sports blog/discussion forum I've found. It was a fun season. Well, it was fun discussing the season, at any rate.

The series was definitely a letdown. The Rocktober machine had so much magic built into it and...the 9 days of rest killed it. Or Beckett killed it. Or something. Either way, Colorado didn't look like they showed up. Hopefully next year the Fall Classic goes longer than the minimum.

And here's to the 2008 Oakland A's!

by danmerqury on Oct 28, 2007 11:59 PM PDT   0 recs

If there's one thing this Series showed,

it's that Voltaire was right: God is indeed on the side of the biggest contr...er, I mean, battalions.

by PaulThomas on Oct 29, 2007 12:52 AM PDT   0 recs

Which recalls Fidel Castro's rant

when Nikita Krushchev recalled the missile-carrying ships in 1962.  Upon hearing news of the back-down, Castro called him the "M-word" in Spanish... basically,

"That's so gay!"

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Oct 29, 2007 5:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Congrats to the Sox...

Best team in baseball from wire to wire.  Don't like em, but well deserved and they have a lot more good guys than they have had.  Ellsbury and Pedroia and Paps are fun to watch and Lowell is just a true class act.  They earned it, I tip the cap with BBG and will greatly anticipate the Paps/Beckett dance at the parade.  

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Oct 29, 2007 12:57 AM PDT   0 recs

MVP or not

and your points are taken, please stop calling him Paps.

makes my skin crawl.

"I'll say it's over. Use common sense." - Jose Canseco after the A's went up 3-0 in the '90 ALCS. (A's swept).

by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 29, 2007 6:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hate to say it

but really, if any team from the regular season deserved it it was the Red Sox. I guess it's good to see the team who played well all year have luck with the crap shoot too. Now I'm just hoping it'll be a team I actually like! :)

I'm sad the Rockies had to lose it in 4, their post season run was really fun to watch and I think they deserved better than that... but oh well. It happens. Hopefully next years WS will be more fun to watch.

Thanks for the year, AN. I had a great time :)

"I never saw a hooligan I did like. They're like left-handed pitchers, they all have a screw loose somewhere." - The Asphalt Jungle

by drmmerchk on Oct 29, 2007 1:41 AM PDT   0 recs

Are you glad you didn't get tickets?

I am glad that I was on a plane for the entire game.

Though it was funny; it was a United flight, where you can listen to the communications -- the pilots spent most of the flight trying to get news on the game via AM radio.

"Female ass are strange creatures. They come and go as they please." -- Sigourney Weaver

by oblique on Oct 29, 2007 1:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

meh

I'm kind of indifferent. I was thinking I might have the opportunity to see the clinching game and I would have been correct, though it was not the team I wanted to win haha I still think it would have been fun, but I'm not mad that we saved the money. Next year I'm definitely going to Oakland :)

"I never saw a hooligan I did like. They're like left-handed pitchers, they all have a screw loose somewhere." - The Asphalt Jungle

by drmmerchk on Oct 29, 2007 8:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

See you there :-)
"Female ass are strange creatures. They come and go as they please." -- Sigourney Weaver

by oblique on Oct 29, 2007 9:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Boston is gonna suck

for people who don't like Boston sports teams.

  1. Red Sox win the world series
  1. Patriots on most dominant run anyone can remember and probably win the Super Bowl
  1. Boston College goes to BCS Championship if they win out (not hard given their puffcake schedule) and since the #2 team has won the vast majority of the championships, they might win

Thank god the Celtics will still suck despite bringing in the AARP All-Stars.

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Oct 29, 2007 5:45 AM PDT   0 recs

Err..

Don't hold your breath on that.

I am a bitter Red Sox fan.

by FlynnSox on Oct 29, 2007 7:36 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

AARP?
KG is 31 and in incredible shape and Ray Ray is 32.  Not like they traded Barkley and Bird.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Oct 29, 2007 10:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not a big pro basketball guy

but it seems they got a lot older and more injury prone.  Isn't 32 in basketball the same like 28 to an NFL running back, ie old as dirt?

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Oct 29, 2007 10:56 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The East is like the NL (maybe even worse)

Garnett is still a top 5 player (you could make an argument he's a top 1 player), and neither he nor Allen are really injury prone.

by mikeA on Oct 29, 2007 11:11 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

KG will be

a top 1 player this year...gonna have a huge season

"He has no equivalent." -Paul DePodesta on Jeremy Brown

by flipgatey3 on Oct 29, 2007 1:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm incredibly excited

I'm 22 and the Celtics have basically not been good since I was a little kid (they had that run in the early oughts but that team was never going anywhere).

Allen is a little old, but PP and KG are still bona-fide superstars and Allen's not a has been by any means, just a guy whose window of time to be a star player is limited (i.e. the Celts need to win now, but with KG and PP at 30 that was always the plan anyhow).

I am a bitter Red Sox fan.

by FlynnSox on Oct 29, 2007 3:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

apparently the Rockies decision

to only sell tickets for the WS home games online resulted in "Red Sux Nation" groupies from all over the country buying up lots and lots of tickets. This mobile "fan" base has been showing up at Sux games all over the country, not just in Oakland.

This was reported last night on ESPN radio last night, so I don't have a link.

by OaklandSi on Oct 29, 2007 6:15 AM PDT   0 recs

So who did win MVP?

And why are so many comments sounding like AN is going to be shut down for the offseason?  ;)

It kind of sounds corny, but you develop a bond with your pumpkins.

by Poppy on Oct 29, 2007 6:28 AM PDT   0 recs

Lowell won MVP

He hit .400 with six runs and four rbis, and played great defense.  A tough choice over Papelbon, but pretty much a toss up.

by Brian in 317 on Oct 29, 2007 7:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Booooooo.

Lowell's on my permanent shit list for unnecessarily tackling & injuring Mike Piazza.

It kind of sounds corny, but you develop a bond with your pumpkins.

by Poppy on Oct 29, 2007 7:54 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Agee with that..

I forgot that.  Of course, Jack Cust built a shrine to Mike Lowell.

Why Lowell found it necessary to "pile on" Piazza instead of diving for the bag, I will never understand.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Oct 29, 2007 5:14 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey don't boo me
I'm a sensitive type.  I was just trying to objectively comment on his WS performance, which, unfortunately, was pretty good.

by Brian in 317 on Oct 29, 2007 7:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Lowell

What a crappy WS.

It did produce one very weird stat: I doubt there's ever been another World Series sweep where the losersl had more homeruns than the winners.

by Brian in 317 on Oct 29, 2007 7:01 AM PDT   0 recs

Yankees-Pirates in 1960?

Yankees outhomered the Pirates 10-4 (!) and scored 55 runs to Pittsburgh's 27.

And lost the series.

by PaulThomas on Oct 29, 2007 8:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I have the video of that series

Pretty entertaining.

But it makes you wish for the past, and that can be harmful to good mental health.

"I never predict anything, and I never will." Paul Gascoigne, English footballer

by One won lost won on Oct 29, 2007 5:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Boooooooooo

hsssssssssssss

"The Athletics at Fremont" is heinous

by ArakSOT on Oct 29, 2007 8:40 AM PDT   0 recs

I got a good laugh

from The Onion's take on the Red Sox trying to win a second Series.  (It's a few days old, but I dont remember seeing it in the DLD.)

Thanks to everyone for a great postseason and welcome to the first day of the offseason!  I'll be here every day, and hope you will be too.

We were caught in a hamster wheel of recriminations and resentment.

by Englishmajor on Oct 29, 2007 8:53 AM PDT   0 recs

Kielty

I stopped paying attention when the regular season ended, so I missed the whole playoffs.

I'm very glad to hear about Kielty.  He's a class act.  He deserves to have a big moment.

"Ten times thy self were better than ten Hattebergs" -- Monkeyball, channeling Shakespeare

by iglew on Oct 29, 2007 9:13 AM PDT   0 recs

He's a really good guy.
Like I told a guy on another board, just because the Rockies play after your bedtime, doesn't mean they can't pound your precious RedSox. -510inDenver

by baseballgirl on Oct 29, 2007 9:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I wish

The rockies didn't have the 9 day layoff, or whatever it was, before playing in the series.  They were on fire and got iced big time.  Think about it, the Red Sox were on the brink of elimination and then went on a tear just like in 04.  The Sox might have been the better team but i think momentum played a huge part.  That and the Rockies ineffective pitching.

A's all the way in 07 . . . oh never mind!

by micdog2001 on Oct 29, 2007 11:49 AM PDT   0 recs

sox were the better

team top to bottom.  cleveland would have done the same.  rockies had a great run but they didn't face any competition up to the caliber or bos or cle.  no shame in getting beat by a better team though.

by Backspin on Oct 29, 2007 11:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Baseballgirl

Baseball was over for me on Sun, Sept 30 in our win over the Angels.

"Some people have a gift for stupidity, an almost mystic ability to withstand any form of logic." D. Gemmell

by sf drift king on Oct 29, 2007 12:51 PM PDT   0 recs

I'm gonna be totally self-absorbed and whine

about how the A's playing two games in Japan vs the Red Sox during spring training, cuts my games attended from 14 to 7.The last Arizona game is 3/19/08 than they fly to Japan and play 3/22/23& 24 and then fly back to Oakland to try to put themselves back together.
What's the big deal? The Red Sox & Yankees are gonna sign all the Japanese players anyway. We're helping out the Red Sox , in my opinion.
And to elaborate on my whine..... are those games even going to be televised? What effect will it have on the players and Opening Day?
Where's my bottle and binkie? I need a nap.

"We get two outs, and I was sure, and I had a plan, and I shook Tek off," Schilling said. "And I get a big 'What if?' for the rest of my life."

by Imaseasonticketholder on Oct 29, 2007 6:55 PM PDT   0 recs

Morgan

cuz he's self-absorbed. I oughta know.

"We get two outs, and I was sure, and I had a plan, and I shook Tek off," Schilling said. "And I get a big 'What if?' for the rest of my life."

by Imaseasonticketholder on Oct 29, 2007 8:27 PM PDT   0 recs

Morgan

Buck may be annoying, but Morgan is anti-A's philosophy.

by xacto on Oct 30, 2007 8:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Congrats to Boston

They had a good team. However, I was cheering for the Rocks. I'm tired of Boston winning and their bandwagon fans. The evil Patriots look unbeatable (this week may be the best chance they have of losing) and the Celtics look to be in the championship hunt with the new big three. Besides, maybe when Boston starts losing Bill Simmons will start writing about something else.

by xacto on Oct 30, 2007 8:20 AM PDT   0 recs

Yeah
Boston is really a geat team. Thanks for a great year.

by pollutighb889 on Oct 30, 2007 7:01 PM PDT   0 recs

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