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I Heart Joanna Sokol DLD 10-16

I don't read Jon Carroll every day, but try to most days as he can generally be counted on for either some good fun or a thoughtful approach to a messy topic, and sometimes both.  Today was the good fun part, in which he merrily posted a letter from a reader who blasts him:

"As you know, I read the column whenever I remember from Vancouver on the Internet for tidbits of cleverness and happy memories of the bay that I love. Usually I love it and I smile at your witty repartee, which is why I want to emphasize that when I say the following I mean it with the utmost affection and respect and admiration of your writing style: (BAD WORD) YOU JON!!! I love the A'S!!!

Joanna Sokol, this DLD is for you!

Star-divide

As if Clint Hurdle didn't seem like a likeable enough manager and the whole Rockies story plenty of fun to get behind, I heard about this on KNBR yesterday.

Today is special.  We got our infuriating but lovable critter this way.  Jon Carroll would be proud.

Dump away peoples.

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A's make the NY Times

It's the only story in the entire newspaper not ghostwritten by Al Franken.

Oakland’s Dream Stadium, or Traffic Nightmare?

Signatures? We don't need no stinking signatures.

by jubjub on Oct 16, 2007 9:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Most interesting quote...

Ken Pries, the vice president for broadcasting and communication for the A’s, acknowledged that the team might alienate fans from north and east of the park. "We may lose a few," he said. "But the ones we do lose, we’ll gain in the South Bay."

First public acknowledgement I've seen that this is essentially a move to San Jose.

So it goes.

by jeepers on Oct 16, 2007 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

smart PR strategy

To those who are paying attention, it's never been a secret that the central idea of the move is getting closer to San Jose while still being within the bounds of Oakland's "territory".

For the majority who hasn't given it much thought, first you announce it like it's not a move at all, then as the months pass by you allow the idea to subtly and slowly filter in, so that by the time it happens everyone is thinking, "Well, yeah, of course they're moving to the South Bay. Everyone knows that."

"Ten times thy self were better than ten Hattebergs" -- Monkeyball, channeling Shakespeare

by iglew on Oct 16, 2007 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, it's part of a grander strategy..

...to move to Vegas.

We should play Jack Cust at shortstop for a week, just so we can feel good about Crosby again.

by Ozzz on Oct 16, 2007 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That Carroll article is awesome.

Meanwhile, here's a peripherally A's related article, as in, not at all except Billy Beane is mentioned.

"Female ass are strange creatures. They come and go as they please." -- Sigourney Weaver

by oblique on Oct 16, 2007 9:56 AM PDT reply actions  

"suddenly...

front offices were being filled with guys wearing pocket protectors."

Via dumptruck?  Or something more precise, like a cement-pouring truck?  Or was there a leak in a faucet somewhere that started with just one pocket-protector-guy every couple of minutes, but filled the place overnight?

It kind of sounds corny, but you develop a bond with your pumpkins.

by Poppy on Oct 16, 2007 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

U.S.S. Mariner

rates the organizations

5       Oakland         B+

to quote an anonymous AL team official, "Oh come on!"

"The Athletics at Fremont" is heinous

by ArakSOT on Oct 16, 2007 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

D-Rays "A"??

I'm sorry. It may be true that Tampa is operating under insuperable handicaps. That they've done a good job at developing major league players. That they might even, sometime not long from now, win 75 games, which is an almost impossible achievement given their payroll relative to Boston and New York.

Nevertheless, I cannot condone giving an "A" to a team which has never once competed in 10 years since entering the league, has no prospects of competing for a playoff spot at any point in the near future and has the consistently worst attendance in baseball.

by PaulThomas on Oct 16, 2007 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

david cameron is biased against the a's

so maybe he just needed another team he could put ahead of us.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Oct 16, 2007 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Something is amiss

when your team gives up 3 trillion runs every year.

by mikeA on Oct 16, 2007 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a low standard ... but one that plenty fail

to meet.

Think of it this way ... if they could fairly intelligently spend an extra $40m on two quality starters and a closer, letting everyone else to fall into less demanding positions, hopefully upgrading the 'pen, how much better would that make the team?

No, they probably wouldn't be able to run down the Red Sox, but they shouldn't have trouble clearing the .500 hurdle and with the 8th lowest payroll in the league, that's nothing to scoff at.

"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Oct 16, 2007 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

giants

"If you’re allegiances lie with Baltimore, Houston, San Francisco, or Cincinnati, well, you might want to find something else to do with your summers for the next ten years or so."

"you're"?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Oct 16, 2007 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am allegiances

Yes

"Put me down and I'll walk off the field." -- Bradley to Macha, 9/06

by skigurl on Oct 16, 2007 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

All your allegiance are belong to us.
We should play Jack Cust at shortstop for a week, just so we can feel good about Crosby again.

by Ozzz on Oct 16, 2007 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Am Legion

A shout-out to all the comic book fans.

by Ray of Lite on Oct 16, 2007 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clint Hurdle

You'll like this (scroll down to the last item) about him as well, sslinger.

Maybe the dark is from your eyes.

by andeux on Oct 16, 2007 10:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Rain at Red Rocks

Saw Phil there with thunder and lightning throughout the second set - don't worry about it Clint!  Thanks for the link - yet another reason to like.

by sslinger on Oct 16, 2007 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just wore my

"I got rained on at the Rocks" poncho last weekend!  It's still going strong after buying it probably 20 years ago at a Cure concert.

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Oct 16, 2007 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still kind of sucks
that you have to "admit" to being a deadhead...

by GusanoQuemador on Oct 16, 2007 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Be Dead and Proud

I always liked it that Brent Mayne was a deadhead - seemed like a nice alternative in a clubhouse where the musical faultlines usually seem to split between country, headbanger rock and hip hop.

by sslinger on Oct 16, 2007 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

(BAD WORD) YOU, SSLINGER!

stealin' my links. ;)

KQED Traffic Guy: "Southbound 880 backed up because of an earlier accident, and well...just because."

by pam5981 on Oct 16, 2007 10:05 AM PDT reply actions  

"Hey",

at least I "got it started" early this morning!  Add "your own" danged links.

by sslinger on Oct 16, 2007 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Fine"
KQED Traffic Guy: "Southbound 880 backed up because of an earlier accident, and well...just because."

by pam5981 on Oct 16, 2007 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here you go

http://www.athleticsnation.com/comme...

so there.

KQED Traffic Guy: "Southbound 880 backed up because of an earlier accident, and well...just because."

by pam5981 on Oct 16, 2007 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Night

dumping doesn't count.

by sslinger on Oct 16, 2007 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Not gonna happen.

KQED Traffic Guy: "Southbound 880 backed up because of an earlier accident, and well...just because."

by pam5981 on Oct 16, 2007 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

BBTF

2008 ZiPS Projections - San Francisco Giants

Presenting your 2008 NL West Cellar Dweller! I think the biggest question for the Bay Area Bomberless is whether or not they're the worst team in the NL next season.

"The Athletics at Fremont" is heinous

by ArakSOT on Oct 16, 2007 10:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Brutal:
"I think I'd trust Amy Winehouse to guard my bag of coke before I'd trust Sabes to build my offense."

by sslinger on Oct 16, 2007 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sabes has a new single out.

"I Don't Wanna Sign A Retread, Baby"

No, no, no!

So it goes.

by jeepers on Oct 16, 2007 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Zito bounces back ...
"It's for your own good. Big strong Devo knows whats best for Poppy" -- Mossback

by devo on Oct 16, 2007 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

While the speed...

of his fastball continues to resemble his changeup.

I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.

by franks a lot on Oct 16, 2007 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too fine.
"Female ass are strange creatures. They come and go as they please." -- Sigourney Weaver

by oblique on Oct 16, 2007 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not enough FITZ
I am Ray Fosse's man crushes for Clay Wood and Jason Kendall.

by franks a lot on Oct 16, 2007 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not Oakland enough.
We should play Jack Cust at shortstop for a week, just so we can feel good about Crosby again.

by Ozzz on Oct 16, 2007 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Found

this Manny Acta interview through FJM.  I may have to start paying attention to the Nats more now.  The Squawking Baseball site also looks like it could be interesting - hadn't found it before.

by sslinger on Oct 16, 2007 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

:(

Too many muffins last night. I just ripped my pants in half... while wearing them. Why does this always happen to me?

"Look at the replay again... one of the A's players comes flying in, I coulda swore it was Adam Melhuse!"

by Jennifer on Oct 16, 2007 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Play it off as a pro wrestler kind of thing.

And intimidate whichever coworker is currently annoying you the most accordingly.

So it goes.

by jeepers on Oct 16, 2007 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure it's not okay

to run around the office without my pants on.

"Look at the replay again... one of the A's players comes flying in, I coulda swore it was Adam Melhuse!"

by Jennifer on Oct 16, 2007 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

and I'm sure the unicorn underwear

isn't going to strike fear into their hearts either.  but you got to play the hand you're dealt with.

In search of a new signature. Say something funny and you may see your comment here!

by DMOAS on Oct 16, 2007 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well...

sure, that's what HR is going to tell you...

So it goes.

by jeepers on Oct 16, 2007 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

HR Pufnstuf is back?

We should play Jack Cust at shortstop for a week, just so we can feel good about Crosby again.

by Ozzz on Oct 16, 2007 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's always that

sweater-tied-around-the-waist look with the spare sweater from the bottom of your desk drawer.....the one with the bits of lint, hole reinforcements, loose staples, dental floss, and an IKEA pencil stuck to it.  

Can you tell I'm cleaning out my desk drawers today after 15 years?

We were caught in a hamster wheel of recriminations and resentment.

by Englishmajor on Oct 16, 2007 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT: Hand Gestures

Top Ten list of Hand Gestures To Get Right.

[Management Note: This Signature has been Designated For Assignment and will re-appear after clearing waivers.]

by LawDaddy on Oct 16, 2007 12:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Is this post

apropos of Curb Your Enthusiasm from the other night?

(I was just scratching my finger....)

"Put me down and I'll walk off the field." -- Bradley to Macha, 9/06

by skigurl on Oct 16, 2007 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was pretty funny. I don't know where he

continually comes up with this stuff.

"If he raced his pregnant wife, he'd finish 3rd." -Lasorda on Mike Scioscia

by ohtobe21likehuston on Oct 16, 2007 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously?
It kind of sounds corny, but you develop a bond with your pumpkins.

by Poppy on Oct 16, 2007 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where the hell have you two been?
"Look at the replay again... one of the A's players comes flying in, I coulda swore it was Adam Melhuse!"

by Jennifer on Oct 16, 2007 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

I was "seriously"-ing at his shock, not the Thompson fact he seems shocked about.  Or sarcastic, I can't tell.  I have a problem with that.

It kind of sounds corny, but you develop a bond with your pumpkins.

by Poppy on Oct 17, 2007 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

I was actually wondering where you two have been. Not "WTF? Get with the program!" I know where sal has been. What's your excuse? Don't you love us anymore?

"That doesn't happen in Spiderman."

by Jennifer on Oct 17, 2007 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

If only we could get Jack Cust...
"It was OK," Swisher said. "I got the shoulder down, but I didn't wrap. You gotta wrap and drive."

by LAXile on Oct 16, 2007 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

But it's ok

I heard we are on the verge of getting Frank Thomas.

by 5Aces on Oct 16, 2007 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Todd Helton's Blog

Todd Helton has a new entry up on his blog. It's really cute. I feel so happy for him and the rest of the Rockies. Now hopefully they can finish it off and win the World Series.  

by keebree89 on Oct 16, 2007 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

sslinger's got catskills. I bet your

favorite ANimal is totally like a Luger -- it's like a mix between a Lugo and a Swisher.  Or maybe it's a DeNardilla, a Hanahanererer, or possibly a Pizzuki.

"It was OK," Swisher said. "I got the shoulder down, but I didn't wrap. You gotta wrap and drive."

by LAXile on Oct 16, 2007 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

No way,

it's totally a Ziger - our own Ziggy and Mark Kiger (cuz his wife's so cool).

by sslinger on Oct 16, 2007 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice

a drunken submariner.

"It was OK," Swisher said. "I got the shoulder down, but I didn't wrap. You gotta wrap and drive."

by LAXile on Oct 16, 2007 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lewis Wolff at SF Commonwealth Club

For those in the bay area, this could be interesting; hear it from the horses mouth (and even ask Lew some tough questions!)
http://www.commonwealthclub.org/feat...

Also barry bonds is doing one...could be interesting.
http://www.commonwealthclub.org/feat...

by bringbackgallego on Oct 16, 2007 2:59 PM PDT reply actions  

The Top 10 Most Brilliant Gadgets of 2007

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...

my favorite thing about the end of the year is all the lists.  the iphone is obviously on there, but insulation??
i own none of these things, this year i plan to buy... none.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Oct 16, 2007 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Here's a headline I never thought I'd see:

Bush Roasts Dalai Lama amid Chinese Outrage

"It was OK," Swisher said. "I got the shoulder down, but I didn't wrap. You gotta wrap and drive."

by LAXile on Oct 16, 2007 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Was it really a roast?

Did Bush make light of his foibles?

by mikeA on Oct 16, 2007 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

ummm, headline is

Bush hosts Dalai Lama amid Chinese outrage

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Oct 16, 2007 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

nevermind

(thanks for the assist!)

"It was OK," Swisher said. "I got the shoulder down, but I didn't wrap. You gotta wrap and drive."

by LAXile on Oct 16, 2007 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The A's and their relationship with

Dr. Bill Harrison, vision consultant.  Or, their LACK of relationship with him.  Yes, this is an article about the absence of something interesting.

"Female ass are strange creatures. They come and go as they please." -- Sigourney Weaver

by oblique on Oct 16, 2007 6:01 PM PDT reply actions  

I just tore up my article about how

you are not at all responsible for the A's struggles. Hope you're happy.

by mikeA on Oct 16, 2007 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the mid to late 1980s

I saw an optometrist who also treated Mark McGwire.  Said he was responsible for getting McGwire some yellow contact lenses that allowed him to see the ball much better than ever before.

Yeah, right, it was the contacts. Um hmm.  

I also have a friend who is the vision consultant for the Dodgers.  I sent him this link -- maybe he'll change allegiances.  

"Put me down and I'll walk off the field." -- Bradley to Macha, 9/06

by skigurl on Oct 17, 2007 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did he...

soak the lenses in some sort of clear solution each night?

It kind of sounds corny, but you develop a bond with your pumpkins.

by Poppy on Oct 17, 2007 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Joanna Sokol, my new hero...

Oakland residents and city officials need to more seriously consider the points made by Ms. Sokol - that people outside of Oakland only associate the city with either murder or sports.  That's a fact.  

Aside from that...

It's always awesome to see someone getting called on their bullshit.  Congratulations to Jon Carrol for printing an article pointing out what a huge jackass he is - yeah, congrats lol.

If I ever meet anyone named Joanna Sokol, at an A's game or anywhere else - your drinks & food are on me.  

And if Joanna is reading this, and you ever need help posting flyers or gathering people for a party near the writer's house, let me know.  -  AsWin1989@gmail.com

by NewPosterMojo on Oct 17, 2007 9:27 PM PDT reply actions  

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