Dear Zito-haters,
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Go ahead and bash Zito for his control issues. Dude walks too many people. Bash him for falling short of his potential: After his Cy Young 2002, I think we all expected better than the 2003-06 that he delivered. So bash him for peaking too early in his career.
But for God's sake, stop bashing him for his decision to sign with the Giants.
Oh, hell, keep doing it if it makes you feel better about yourself. After all, this guy had a major life decision to make, one in which millions of dollars hung in the balance, one that would decide where he'd spend the next 5-7 years of his life--and whose interests did he look out for? His own!? How dare he!?
It was suggested elsewhere on this website that Zito could have conceivably taken half of the $126 milliion the Giants gave him to return to the A's. It was stated that "if I'm truly going to admire one of these athletes as an individual beyond the game, it's going to take action like" that.
Well how about this: thank God for Zito and those that know him that he has his priorities straight, and that he's more concerned with his own well-being than he is with earning the admiration of fans whom he doesn't know from Adam Piatt.
Guys like Zito have hit the lottery by having a major talent in a major sport, and they are being paid as lottery-winners. And they have a chance to use that money as we all dream we would if we won the lottery--to make themselves and their families set for life, to never have to worry about money again. If they're generous, to give some of it to charity.
And a drawback of all this is that they are going to have to live the rest of their lives with people wanting to take some of that money from them--people who say 'after all, you don't really need it, you have so much.' People will come to them with a million causes they should support, a million investment opportunities they should get involved in, a million ideas about what they should do with their money.
And that's what I'm hearing when I hear some of you questioning Zito's decision to take the biggest contract offered him: You are complaining that he didn't donate to your cause, one of the most ludicrous causes I've ever heard of: it's the "take less money to play for my favorite team, because it's the team you played with last year" cause.
Or the even-more-ridiculous, "take less money to play with a team that I think has a better chance of winning a championship" cause. Never mind that your opinion of which team has the better chance of winning a championship is as worthless as Harold Reynolds'. How is it admirable to opt to play for a front-runner? If the Yankees and the Royals were the main bidders for Zito, explain to me how admirable it would be for Zito to take less to play for the Yankees. In truth, players in general do prefer to play for good teams over bad ones, but the size of the discount they will give good teams is a sign not of nobility but of a different KIND of selfishness.
Now, if Zito were to agree to donate his salary to these causes of yours, where would the money go to? Ahh, I know--to needy baseball executives, who would get to pay players less and pocket the extra money for themselves.
Speaking of which (and by now I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir, since I've probably already offended or bored anyone who disagrees with me and they've quit reading): how in the world can you bash Zito for caring more about the almighty dollar than he does about pursuing championships, and fail to bash A's management in the same breath on the same score?
In other words, if Zito can fall under the microscope for putting profit ahead of your personal hopes for the A's or your personal idea of what his legacy as a baseball player will be, then how can A's management not fall under that same judgement? Aren't they choosing to stay profitable as a business at the expense of keeping talent on the team? At the expense of the legacy of the A's? Hell yes they are. And I would submit that there's nothing wrong with that.
But as long as you're getting all judgemental, you might as well say that if you're going to truly admire an owner as an individual beyond the game, you would expect him to run the organization at a loss, Eddie D style, or Wally Haas style. I don't know about you, but I'm under the impression that the owners are richer than the players, so who should really be giving up money here, if anybody should?
In conclusion, if I'm really going to admire any of you beyond this website, it's going to take an action like this: send me an e-mail with your credit card number in it and written permission for me to use it as I see fit. Or you could send me an e-mail pleading poverty, but making a written promise to send me some money the minute you get rich.
Oh crap, I've gone on forever, and I probably pretty-much embodied the kind of pompousness that I was trying to attack. But if there's a better way to spend a Friday night, I can't imagine what that would be.
Have a good weekend.</vent>
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That's funny:
It's funny because that's what Zito's mantra was...and then he sold out for the cash $. Hahahaha.
by carp on Jan 27, 2007 6:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Seriously.
I don't begrudge him the cash (though I personally am doing a job that pays way less than my old one, because I love what comes with it - better hours, better workplace, better people), I just wish he would be honest about it.
Oh, and questioning whether the A's really want to win a Series when they just got a couple of wins away from one is kinda silly.
by Ozzz on Jan 27, 2007 10:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I don't expect you to agree with me
- I also admire honesty and dislike lying in general. But I'm less passionate about these issues when the alleged lie is about something not so important. And that is the case here. Who cares whether it's championships or money that Zito left chasing? They're different types of things that people like getting. Both you and the media in general seem to glorify the idea of free agents "wanting to go to a place where they can win a championship." But hell, isn't there something glorious about playing great for a crappy team, like Ernie Banks did? Wouldn't that be more glorious, to make a lousy team into a good one? So in any case, when I hear Zito say "I want to go to a place where I can win championships," I tend to think he's being media-savvy, and I couldn't care less if he follows through on that. Who does he owe it to to follow through on that? It's a promise he's made only to himself.
- As a few other people have stated in this thread already, Zito may not have lied at all, because he may honestly believe that the Giants have a better shot at the WS than any of the other teams that wanted him. Despite your opinions to the contrary.
- Your final line about how my "questioning whether the A's really want to win" is "really silly" is total b.s. As you know, I didn't question whether the A's really wanted to win--of course they want to win, as does Zito , as does everybody. But just as most players won't take a big paycut to play on a championship-winning team, most teams (A's included) won't operate in the red to field a championship-winning team.
by rubin sierra on Jan 27, 2007 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
All I ever
by Salvatore on Jan 27, 2007 7:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Z's favorite song
[verse]
well, I know you can't work in fast food all your life
but don't sign that paper tonight, she said,
but it's too late.
And I don't remember what I read,
don't remember what they said,
I guess it doesn't matter,
I guess it doesn't matter anymore.
[chorus]
you're gonna go to the record store
you're gonna give 'em all your money
radio plays what they want you to hear
they tell me it's cool but I just don't believe it...
sell out, with me oh yea, sell out, with me tonight
record company's gonna give me lots of money
and everything's gonna be (all right).
[verse]
no more flippin' burgers puttin' on my silly hat
you know I don't want that no more,
And I didn't ask when we'd get paid, I quit my day job anyway,
I guess it doesn't matter, I guess it doesn't matter anymore
[chorus]
You're gonna go to the record store,
you're gonna give 'em all your money,
radio plays what they want you to hear,
they tell me it's cool, I just don't believe it
sell out, with me oh yea, sell out
with me tonight, the records company's only give me
lots of money and everything's gonna be.
[bridge]
I don't think it'll be so bad
I know it won't be so bad
cause the man said "that's the way it is"
and the man said "it don't get better than this" no no no noo
[chorus]
so I signed on to the record company,
they say they're gonna give me lot's of money,
if I play what they want you to hear
they tell me it's cool, and I sure believe it...
sell out, with me oh yea, sell out, with me tonight
the record companies gonna give me lots of money and
everything's gonna be (all right).
by Tony on Jan 27, 2007 7:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
that's catchy
by rubin sierra on Jan 27, 2007 8:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Reel Big Fish!!!
by OAKobsession on Jan 28, 2007 12:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey...
by Salvatore on Jan 27, 2007 7:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
great post
by SeanR on Jan 27, 2007 8:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
You can complain..
by dboysick on Jan 27, 2007 9:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And if the Giants make the playoffs
by grover on Jan 27, 2007 9:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That armageddon is coming.
by Ozzz on Jan 27, 2007 10:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a bit much
Winning the WS = armageddon!
by grover on Jan 27, 2007 10:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
one problem
The Yankees and Red Sox apparently never really went after Zito. So who, exactly, was he supposed to sign with to be a winner?
by SeanR on Jan 27, 2007 10:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you were serious until you said:
Dude, that's the best subtle humor I've ever seen on this site. I like, TOTALLY, thought you were serious for a moment.
Genius. Utter genius. Lenny Bruce would take lessons.
by Ozzz on Jan 27, 2007 10:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he meant
by mikeA on Jan 27, 2007 10:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he could have signed with the mets
sure the giants have a nice rotation, but that's all they have, no hitting, no defense, no bullpen. and they don't spend that much money, certainly not after this zito signing. and sabean is one of the worst GMs in baseball.
but this whole diary seems a bit pointless. where the heck are all these zito haters? i don't see them.
by xbhaskarx on Jan 27, 2007 9:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Where are all the Zito haters?
by rfloh on Jan 27, 2007 10:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't read ice hockey stuff
by xbhaskarx on Jan 27, 2007 10:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
dear rubin-sierra-hater,
by rubin sierra on Jan 28, 2007 2:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
The only thing I'll say is this...
When it's all Said and Done, Giambi, Miggy, McGwire, Huddy, Mulder, Swisher, and ZITO etc...will all say, "The best time I ever had in professional baseball was with the Oakland A's Organization."
Chavvy will say, "I know".
by Colorado Fan on Jan 27, 2007 9:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
It's a funny thing...
Anyone feel like taking that stance now?
It has been argued on this site often, the most recent volley coming from a front page story by Blez, that by signing with the Giants Barry Zito is forsaking any realistic chance at winning a championship. Really?
I'm not going to predict the Giants to win the 2007 NL West Pennant (I'm not sure who I like anywhere, I haven't kept track of all the player movement) but I'd like to point out that for all the crap Sabean gets for giving up 1st round picks to sign retirees, the Giants' farm system is not bare. They've got some arms who could help out this season and everyone knows about Tim Lincecum coming up the pipeline. They also have a couple position prospects who could be ready by 2008.
But wait, there's more.
Factoring built-in salary increases, arby deals and contracts coming off the books, the Giants look to have $20 million in cash to spend during the 2007-2008 offseason. And that number would get bigger if they bump the payroll. Their 2007 rotation of Zito, Cain, Lowry, Morris is just as good as any front 4 Oakland will probably manage this year (unless, of course, Harden can stay healthy all year) and the Giants' core of Zito, Cain and Lowry is locked up through 2010.
But wait, still more!
The Giants have 6 picks before the 2nd round in the 2007 draft! That includes 4 of the first 34 picks in the draft (#10, #22, #29, #34). Just to remind folks, the A's top 2 picks are at #26 and #46. So unless Sabean and his scouts completely blow it the Giants are looking at a large influx of young talent in about 5 months.
So I'm sorry if folks are upset with Zito's departure. But to criticize him for leaving the A's to join a team with "little chance" of ever winning a championship is premature speculation AT BEST! Zito followed the money. If that's enough to piss you off than that's your business, I'm not about to interfer or even try to make you feel better.
by grover on Jan 27, 2007 9:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Giants
Haren, Loaiza, Blanton, Kennedy = Zito, Cain, Lowry, Morris
Just sayin'.
Grover > Sabean
by Colorado Fan on Jan 27, 2007 9:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How Dare You
"And if the Giants make the Playoffs." They still suck.
Morris = Heredia
by DCinWC on Jan 27, 2007 10:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
100% agree.
Tampa Bay
Kansas City
Washington
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh
Colorado
and maybe Seattle. The Giants have more money to spend, and as good (if not better) a rotation as the A's do.
by jeepers on Jan 27, 2007 10:14 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, Jeepers. No.
And while I agree that's too much money to ignore, the proper way to address it is "if I sign this deal, I'll be making stupid money and be set for the rest of my life, my kids' lives, and their kids' lives. So thanks for the good times, hope to see you in the Series..." not "I want to win a championship, so I'm leaving an ALCS team for the old-timers club."
by Ozzz on Jan 27, 2007 10:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, you're selling the Giants short.
Once Bonds is off the books, they have all the money in the world to sign free agents and plug offensive holes. The health of their farm system isn't nearly as important to them as it is to a team like the A's.
by jeepers on Jan 27, 2007 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lincecum will be great, but..
Yes, I'm absolutely selling the Giants short. I'm short-selling them as quickly as I can.
by Ozzz on Jan 27, 2007 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They have Morris in the interim.
by jeepers on Jan 27, 2007 5:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But A's fans hate the Giants,
by rfloh on Jan 27, 2007 10:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that's cool
It's just like the Zito-haters are saying about Zito: how they don't mind people leaving for more money, but they just wish said people wouldn't claim not to care about money.
Well I don't want mind hating on Zito. I just wish said haters wouldn't claim their hating is due to high-minded moral principles.
by rubin sierra on Jan 27, 2007 2:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BB on KNBR Friday
by DCinWC on Jan 27, 2007 12:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I hate both you and Blez
by LAXile on Jan 28, 2007 12:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good post
by 0R0H0E on Jan 28, 2007 9:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Co-sign.
As much as I hate the Giants and San Francisco, I strangely don't harbor any ill feelings toward zito for signing with them. I actually look fwd to seeing him pitch. At least with him on the field, I'll have some interest in their games for a change.
by sf drift king on Jan 29, 2007 12:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Again
I have to admit, it has been funny to listen to all the bitchy Giant fans talk about his W/L record or his 85 mph fastball. And.. yes.. he is not Sandy Kofax (my personal fav.)
by Parklife on Jan 31, 2007 10:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
by Reg on Jan 29, 2007 6:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Me too. Craig Pawcette(?) and Brent Gates too.
by McFood on Jan 29, 2007 11:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
giant draft picks
by jasonlbe on Jan 29, 2007 4:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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