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Optimistic about the 2007? Don't be!

How can you be optimistic about the 2007 Athletics?

Let's face the facts, the team lost Barry Zito, our former Cy Young Award winner and our most streaky pitcher - I'm told by stat guys, that hot & cold type pitchers actually help win more games, so be worried, be very worried about this and more.  

The team also lost Frank Thomas, our "big stick".  And, Jay Payton and Kirk Saarloos, too.  How can this team compete any longer, everything has to "break the right way" and then some just to stay in the race that the team won't win anyway?

We know the sky is falling because the odds of Bradley, Kotsay, Ellis, and Crosby missing significant playing time in the same season again is virtually certain...it has to be this way because the most recent history projects the scenario to be true, and, well, we just have to temper our enthusiasm around here because there's too much of it exuding itself from the Kool-aid drinkers as it is...there has to be balance; an offset, of sorts.  And back to injuries, hell, we also have to assume that Loiaza's fastball doesn't crack 87 mph for half the season, that Calero and Duchscherer spend time on the DL and that Chavez will battle forearm tendonitis and other injuries again.  And, we also have to assume that Street struggles and so does Blanton, because, well...again, that's what history predicts and that just what Athletics' fan does.

So, in closing, get ready for the days of 77 win seasons once again and a depleted farm system, too.  Because, folks, the sky really is falling (this time) and you are a dumbass if you don't already know this and have not already boarded the pessimism train for Gloomsville.  

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wow
What a wasted post.  What is the point of being a fan if you can't be optimistic?

I'm hoping that the post was intended as a sarcastic response to other recent pessimistic posts, but sadly i think not.

by chri5 on Jan 25, 2007 7:55 PM PST reply actions  

Kool-aid Drinker,
It's still not too late to hop on the train...pessimism is fashionable, try it.
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by LowcountryJoe on Jan 25, 2007 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

If pessimism is fashionable...
...wouldn't that be the Kool-aid?

Nice diary.

"If your athame is a spork, you might be a Discordian."

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jan 25, 2007 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

77 wins?
For Christ's sake, Seattle won 78 games last year with Gil Meche as their 'ace.'

Nice post, loser.

by NorthDakotaOaklandFan on Jan 26, 2007 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Well played, sir.
Not only did you completely misunderstand the entire diary, you cap it off with a lame insult. Bravo!
"We've come a long way, and I'm not talking about Virginia Slims, either." - Art Howe

by EastCoastA on Jan 26, 2007 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Written like oaktoon,
but with content like oaktoon. Well done!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jan 25, 2007 8:08 PM PST reply actions  

Yet...
I can't help but feel partially responsible. Next time I post, it'll be "happy happy joy joy", and not contribute to the negativity.
More than just ANtics: http://www.louisgray.com/live/

by louismg on Jan 25, 2007 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Naw
only 2 question marks in the entire diary.

by mikeA on Jan 25, 2007 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

And not enough paragraphs
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jan 25, 2007 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

more than enough text, though
"We don't want haddock and chips, we want cod. In cod we trust." --Ghostigital, the pride of Iceland

by Cutthemullet on Jan 26, 2007 2:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Good Ole Oaktoon
he is like a legend on AN now....lol, weird.
"I Will Not Relent, I Am Driven"... Clutch
Bring Back The Bash!!!

by Shippee33 on Jan 25, 2007 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh
If you think the cynicism around here is out of hand now, stay away in May...

by mikeA on Jan 25, 2007 8:15 PM PST reply actions  

No...
that'll be desolation.
"I mean, hey, if they're going to bring the A's to Fremont, you might as well bring a Hooters." ~ some guy

by Poppy on Jan 25, 2007 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

LCJoe
Your tribute to oaktoon is touching.

Get help.

This guy is dead! We'll list him as day-to-day for possible reincarnation.
A's Medical Staff, 2006

by grover on Jan 25, 2007 8:48 PM PST reply actions  

Hmph.
Unless Gloomsville has a BART stop, count me out.
"I mean, hey, if they're going to bring the A's to Fremont, you might as well bring a Hooters." ~ some guy

by Poppy on Jan 25, 2007 8:49 PM PST reply actions  

i took the last train to gloomsville
and i don't know if i'm ever coming home.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 25, 2007 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

hey...
who doesn't enjoy wallowing in self-pity every now and then?  Most days I'll bypass Candyland for Gloomsville.

<turns up the volume on Dark Side of the Moon>

"We don't want haddock and chips, we want cod. In cod we trust." --Ghostigital, the pride of Iceland

by Cutthemullet on Jan 26, 2007 2:34 AM PST up reply actions  

win or lose
i will still watch as many games and cheer as hard as i can for my boys in green and gold
Oakland A's 2007 World Champions!

by CrackBaby on Jan 25, 2007 9:01 PM PST reply actions  

With all the talent we lost
it's easy to forget the amount of talent still on this roster. Even without those guys we still have a lot of guys on this team who can carry us.

I see the upcoming season in a couple different ways:

  1. The majority of the roster stays intact and healthy. Guys like Bradley and Harden (I leave Crosby out because im not sure of his talent) are able to justify their enormous potential by staying healthy and helping stabilize the team. We end up not missing Thomas or Zito and just keep on winning as is normal.
  2. The majority of the guys we're counting on don't stay healthy and we don't do so hot. The advantage of this? Guys like Barton, Buck, Shafer, McBeth, Windsor, and maybe Suzuki get some action at the big league level and though we'd have to deal with mediocrity in the standings, we'd get to see these young guys upon whose shoulders the future rests in action.
I may be in the minority here but I could handle a losing season if it came with getting to watch a lot of younguns get their chance. This is unlike being a Giant fan where you get to see suckitude with old geezers at the helm.

After the season the upper management gets to reevaluate the team and maybe ship out some guys and retool for a couple years down the road. Loaiza, Blanton, Calero, Kennedy, Johnson, Kotsay, and maybe some upper-level prospects that aren't too useful to us could help restock our dangerously thin system. That, coupled with a higher draft position due to the possible poor record could net us some serious talent.

Overall, I'm not fretting over my optimism or others' pessimism, I enjoy watching the A's play this wonderful game of baseball first and foremost and then winning secondly. You can say it all comes down to wins and losses but personally, I can stand watching development.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin, Seattle Mariners

by Helloooo 1st on Jan 25, 2007 9:35 PM PST reply actions  

funny
That the people who "got" this post are easily outnumbered by those who didn't.  I would commend you for apparently making your sarcasm nearly opaque, Joe, but you lost some credibility when you couldn't resist alluding to the quality start debate/debacle.  
"We don't want haddock and chips, we want cod. In cod we trust." --Ghostigital, the pride of Iceland

by Cutthemullet on Jan 26, 2007 2:31 AM PST reply actions  

CBS projects Al Gore wins Florida
You may have tabulated the got it/didn't get it votes too soon.
"If your athame is a spork, you might be a Discordian."

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jan 26, 2007 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not so sure...
Unless you're aware of some AN members who did get it but haven't been able to access their accounts (to extend the voting metaphor), then it still looks like at least a draw if not an advantage for the ones not in the know.  Then again, there are some chads hanging from a couple ballots, like walk off bunt's, which make them kind of ambiguous....
"We don't want haddock and chips, we want cod. In cod we trust." --Ghostigital, the pride of Iceland

by Cutthemullet on Jan 28, 2007 2:14 AM PST up reply actions  

nice one LCJoe
"Where you start is not as important as where you finish."- Zig Ziglar

by bigelephant on Jan 26, 2007 6:27 AM PST reply actions  

A song for Low Country Joe
Lyrics by Billy Joe Shaver

My dreams are all dead & buried

Sometimes I wish the sun would just explode

When God comes and calls me to his kingdom

I'll take all you S.O.B.s with me when I go

2nd favorite team: WHOEVER IS PLAYING THE GIANTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by ConcordFanSince1968 on Jan 26, 2007 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

Hey you 've already upped my prediction...
...of 60 wins by 17. I can't stand all of the optimism the last 2 days. You guys are acting as if we went to the ALCS last year.

   Geez, everyone knows a small market team representing the city where "there is no there, there," doesn't stand a snowball's chance in h@&* to win anything this year.

   I'm glad somebody's light on AN shines more brightly than grover's, for a minute there I was ready to get depressed.

"I've been accused of using too many words...I suppose that's like accusing Mozart of using too many notes." Bill King

by Gerard on Jan 26, 2007 10:22 AM PST reply actions  

at the end of the year next year...
you'll be denying you ever said these comments...th A's may not earn a playoff spot...but they will certainly be competing for one and i know ill be optimistic as long as we aren't 10 games out of a playoff spot

by AthleticsFanatic4ever on Jan 26, 2007 11:03 AM PST reply actions  

My dog died AND my tractor broke.
"Look its either batman or batman and robin not robin w/o batman robin isn't sh@#."--cchefz71

by jeepers on Jan 26, 2007 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

hey
i resemble that
Baseball is like life. It's a day-to-day existence, full of ups and downs. You make the most of your opportunities in baseball as you do in life. - E Harwell

by peoples27 on Jan 27, 2007 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

the michigan part at least
Baseball is like life. It's a day-to-day existence, full of ups and downs. You make the most of your opportunities in baseball as you do in life. - E Harwell

by peoples27 on Jan 27, 2007 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

You're an idiot
If you think this team isn't a reasonable bet to win 80 games. I'm not optimistic about our chances for the postseason, but you're just flat stupid, biased, or have some unreasonable fetish for pessimism if you don't think the current squad is at least 80 winnish. Most reasonable projections peg us in the 83-86 range.
BeaneBall: This is a guy playing baseball. BeaneBall: But then, suddenly, MONEYBALL! HendryHuggins: Wait, I missed the part where moneyball.

by walk off bunt on Jan 26, 2007 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

You seem to have completely missed the point
This was a diary with its tongue planted firmly in its cheek.

And yes, I realize I just created an opportunity for a 20 response riff on tongues and other body parts.

This guy is dead! We'll list him as day-to-day for possible reincarnation.
A's Medical Staff, 2006

by grover on Jan 26, 2007 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I got the gist of that
That it was satirical and all.

Regardless, wanted to make the point.

BeaneBall: This is a guy playing baseball. BeaneBall: But then, suddenly, MONEYBALL! HendryHuggins: Wait, I missed the part where moneyball.

by walk off bunt on Jan 26, 2007 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Just look at 2005 ..
.. the Hot Streak of 2005, where we went on a Long Summer Tear of around .600 ball.  We could get hot again this summer and win a lot more games than anyone anticipates.  Ya never know, just have to play the season out and see what happens. :)

by Randy Bell on Jan 26, 2007 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Correction ..
.. it was a streak of almost .800 ball as I recall ..

by Randy Bell on Jan 26, 2007 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

wow, pretty bold
he's an idiot for "77 wins" and you respond with "at least 80"...
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 26, 2007 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

At least 80
And 83-86 are quite different. 83-86 and 77 even moreso.

Anyway it was an overzealous response to the type of extreme thinking people exhibit on this site. (and yes, I realize it wasn't lcj's actual line of thought, but as mentioned above, I felt like making the point regardless.)

My bad.

BeaneBall: This is a guy playing baseball. BeaneBall: But then, suddenly, MONEYBALL! HendryHuggins: Wait, I missed the part where moneyball.

by walk off bunt on Jan 26, 2007 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

this diary (well mainly the reactions) is too much
even me, the lcl got it.  allthough being as slow as i am, i didn't pick up on it until i got to the loiaza fastball part.
"I'd like to reference a brilliant post from Left Coast Lumber today" - notsellingjeans

by methodrampage on Jan 26, 2007 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

GRRRRR
Fire LCJ now!!!
Beane's World!! Excellent!!! Rock On, Beane! Rock On, Geren!

by Satchmo22 on Jan 26, 2007 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

Wow
I thought I was gloomy and cynical, but you take the cake! However, I also can't say that I don't agree with you either......

by may7 on Jan 26, 2007 2:49 PM PST reply actions  

oh man
the last paragraph really was a gem.  Awesome work, LowCountry
"WTF is wrong with you people TASTELESS COMMENTS. I'm disgusted. Mocking a 10 year old's horrible painful death." --eshock

by rubin sierra on Jan 27, 2007 2:42 PM PST reply actions  

hmm
The sky must be falling since we lost Jay Payton and Kirk Saarloos. The Red Sox lost Trot Nixon (unfair - Nixon is way better than Payton) and Kyle Snider -- I guess we can count them out too. Obviously losing Zito and Thomas hurt, but does anyone think they're going to be real difference makers this year anyway? Don't think we'll win the division, but we'll take at least one or two of the next five. Definitely won't be mediocre.

by Nick86 on Jan 27, 2007 3:55 PM PST reply actions  

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