And to prove my point, here's a nice snippet from Focus on the Family leader James Dobson's book, The Strong-Willed Child, in which he describes beating his dachshund with a belt to teach it it's place:

"Please don't misunderstand me. Siggie is a member of our family and we love him dearly. And despite his anarchistic nature, I have finally taught him to obey a few simple commands. However, we had some classic battles before he reluctantly yielded to my authority.

    "The greatest confrontation occurred a few years ago when I had been in Miami for a three-day conference. I returned to observe that Siggie had become boss of the house while I was gone. But I didn't realize until later that evening just how strongly he felt about his new position as Captain.

    "At eleven o'clock that night, I told Siggie to go get into his bed, which is a permanent enclosure in the family room. For six years I had given him that order at the end of each day, and for six years Siggie had obeyed.

    "On this occasion, however, he refused to budge. You see, he was in the bathroom, seated comfortably on the furry lid of the toilet seat. That is his favorite spot in the house, because it allows him to bask in the warmth of a nearby electric heater..."

    "When I told Sigmund to leave his warm seat and go to bed, he flattened his ears and slowly turned his head toward me. He deliberately braced himself by placing one paw on the edge of the furry lid, then hunched his shoulders, raised his lips to reveal the molars on both sides, and uttered his most threatening growl. That was Siggie's way of saying. "Get lost!"

    "I had seen this defiant mood before, and knew there was only one way to deal with it. The ONLY way to make Siggie obey is to threaten him with destruction. Nothing else works. I turned and went to my closet and got a small belt to help me "reason" with Mr. Freud."

    What developed next is impossible to describe. That tiny dog and I had the most vicious fight ever staged between man and beast. I fought him up one wall and down the other, with both of us scratching and clawing and growling and swinging the belt. I am embarrassed by the memory of the entire scene. Inch by inch I moved him toward the family room and his bed. As a final desperate maneuver, Siggie backed into the corner for one last snarling stand. I eventually got him to bed, only because I outweighed him 200 to 12!"

Extremist? The hell you say.

If you want to talk about media bias on Kerry, do you recall a certain Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, and the reams of press they got questioning whether he awarded himself Purple Hearts? How 'liberal' was all that coverage exactly?

And Bernard Goldberg? Author of "100 People Who Are Screwing Up America" (and all happen to be liberal)? You're going there?

And the New York Times is liberal? Really? The newspaper that had the 'Bush is illegally wiretapping Americans' story and sat on it for a year while he won an election before finally mentioning it? The newspaper that ran pre-war front page daily breathless news items from Judith Miller, talking about all the WMD she'd seen in Iraq? That 'liberal' New York Times?

And Thomas Edsall... give me stength. Do you get all your information from listening to Hugh Hewitt?

Here's a link for you - Media Matters - go look at their front page. Go read the research. Go through it all and see how regularly the 'liberal' media is lying on Bush's behalf.

I mean, lansakes - the liberals were RIGHT on Iraq! Us 'hippy traitors' who said Iraq was a dumb move were all 100% right, but couldn't get a word in on the media, and you still want to play this 'the media are all lefties' game?

Good grief, CNN runs Glenn freaking Beck as programming. How much further right can you get?

They haven't had them since '91. And if I was clever enough to read all the info that said as much before the war, I just wonder why Bush and his posse weren't.