All-Time, All-Star, All-SOB team
I thought it would be amusing to assemble an allstar team comprised soley of SOB's. Lou Gherig types need not apply. I want a team that if fielded in your home town, not even their mothers would cheer for them. I'm not talking about the occassional display of poor judgement. Felons are highly encouraged to apply. Extra points if you have been convicted. If you want to make this team, you gotta work for it. I want guys who left no doubt that they were amoungst the worst human beings to ever grace a baseball field. You should have at least put up decent, if not spectacular numbers for at least a couple of seasons. Also considered will be those who may have been decent people off the field, but their conduct on the field was at least reprehensible. I'm looking at you Bob Gibson. Would you have really drilled your mother in the ass with a ball if she had the nerve to crowd the plate? I think so.
The Captain of my all-star all-prick team is....Tyrus Cobb. You, Georgia Peach, lived during the most racially segregated period in American history when civil rights for black Americans were almost non existant. Yet you managed to not only get arrested twice, but prosecuted twice for assaulting black Americans. In 1915 that took effort. My hat is off to you, you obnoxious bastard.
In an effort to contribute to racial disharmony in the outfield, I nominate Barry Bonds as left fielder dujour. Your prickishness is well known, as is your penchant to lie to grand juries. For thumbing your nose at the baseball establishment and the American baseball fan, I tip my cap. Wouldn't you just love to sit in the bleachers and listen to Cobb and Bonds jaw at each other?
And speaking of breaking laws and baseball custom, how ya doing Pete Rose? Your my starting thirdbaseman. You of the patented, "I never bet on baseball" fame. Giamatti not only banned you for life, he suffered an early demise from a heart attack in part because of the stress you inflicted on the old guy. 20 years later you come semi clean, but only because you believe that the lifetime ban may in fact last at least until your lifetime is complete. You are one self serving bastard, and I tip my cap.
My relief pitcher is John Rocker. Cause he's just too stupid to leave off the list. Sure you may have distasteful racial views, but did you really think that an SI reporter wouldn't blab them to the world if you elucidated them during an interview? You may also be eligible for the all time simpleton award.
Bob Gibson. Perhaps the meanest man to ever hold a baseball on the mound. Cause there was one thing for sure in a series with Gibson on the Hill. Someone was gonna get drilled. Pity the poor rookies who were sent to the box like sheep to the slaughter. Everyone in the stadium knew what was about to happen. And like a bad train wreck, everyone howled when you delivered.
That's all I have for now. Please feel free to add your choices to the all-star all-sob team. This team may be the first in history to have a benchs clearing brawl involving only the guys from their own benchs.
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Albert Belle
still get shivers
They should have
by Salvatore on Jan 1, 2007 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
it was
Pretty football-esque for sure
Funny thing was
I think Belle got fined or suspended, but to this day I'm not sure he did anything against the rules.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jan 1, 2007 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
Cap Anson an historic racist
One day, a couple of the players noticed a "streak of light" near the boat, which the captain informed them was a man-eating shark of a sort so vicious that they had been known to "spring on the deck of a steamer, select a victim, and amdke their escape before they could be thwarted."
The captain then ordered that the "sea wolf", which continued to follow the boat, be caught. A heavy line and a huge hook were prepared, and a debate of sorts about the appropriate bait broke out. According the (John Montgomery) Ward:
Anson offered to solve the question... by offering Clarence Duval, the little ebony-hued mascot... as a tidbit for the shark, but Clarence made such strenuous objections that the plan was abandoned. - that's from the excellent JM Ward bio by Bryan DiSalvatore
Judging from other accounts, John McGraw and Hughie Jennings should also be on this list. Dixie Walker, too. I'll probably think of some others... oh yeah, Don Hoak had an incredibly bad reputation for fighting on the field...
I loved the story about Anson,
Now Anson on the other hand seems to have taken his racial animosity to a new high (or low) that makes him worthy of SOB consideration. Contemplating the use of human beings as bait is symptomatic of a seriously disturbed mind.
And as long as were not being investigated by the Feds for violation of the ADA, we can surely find a spot for Albert Belle. Those are priceless stories. Perpetuating violence upon children, assaulting fans, and stalking by electronic means. High tech and schizo.
Was it Francisco Cordero that chucked a chair
No
by BlameChannel53 on Jan 2, 2007 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
i think i hear a phone ringing for carl
by burnone on Jan 2, 2007 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
Remember Dave Kingman
by Salvatore on Jan 1, 2007 7:46 PM PST reply actions
I hate to see Kingy on this list
That last year for the A's I think he hit 35 dingers! You think a guy like that would be unsigned at age 36 (I think that was his age when he retired) in today's market?
I heard a broadcaster say this once...
To be fair
by Salvatore on Jan 2, 2007 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Karim Garcia and Jeff Nelson
by jsiegel on Jan 1, 2007 8:23 PM PST reply actions
Owner of the All Star SOB Team
CUT, he IS a convicted felon, AND was banned from baseball for LIFE. (Both were later pardoned) Also, he's such an SOB, he's had one son, and one son-in-law quit working for the Yankees!
Marge Schott
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by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jan 2, 2007 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
LOL...
Truly a man behind his time!
And Steinbrenner was placed on the permanently
And Charlie Finley
by Salvatore on Jan 2, 2007 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
The whole story is...
by billyball1981 on Jan 3, 2007 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
Those were the days
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jan 3, 2007 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
Selig Makes me sick
by billyball1981 on Jan 4, 2007 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
managerial choices
Bobby Valentine -- A more modern version.
John McGraw -- The original SOB. Also one the best managers ever.
Casey Stengel -- Much beloved because he was quotable, he was as much a jerk as they came. He did to the young Warren Spahn what Ozzie Guillen did to that guy last year, ordering to hit a batter and sending him to the minors when he didn't.
My nominees
Catcher: A.J. Pyrzienski(ask the Giants trainer, whom he kneed in the nuts)
Lefty Reliever: Steve Howe (banned for life because of cocaine abuse, then re-instated)
Not obvious
Don't ever accuse me of thinking...
eeek, John Rocker
by Eric in Atlanta on Jan 2, 2007 11:17 AM PST reply actions
Billy Martin
I say no on Gibson. There are/were lots of pitchers who were not reluctant to hit a batter.
by NoeValley on Jan 2, 2007 11:53 AM PST reply actions
Interesting about Jimmy Piersall...
by Salvatore on Jan 2, 2007 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
However Gibson is off the field,
I think he once told
The thing about Gibson...
by Salvatore on Jan 2, 2007 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
great Gibson/Clemente story
Crazy Like a Fox
Anthony Perkins played Piersall in "Fear Strikes Out" and the star of "Psycho" has the wild eyed looked down cold. However, he has the worst form as a ballplayer since Gary Cooper.
Two more nominees:
Kirk Gibson, hearsay is that he is a total pr*ck
Tony Phillips who terrorized rookies including his
teammates
by NoeValley on Jan 2, 2007 3:18 PM PST reply actions
Rogers Hornsby.
by TheBigO on Jan 2, 2007 4:27 PM PST reply actions
PETE ROSE
Of course there is the betting on baseball, and his extremely tacky take on the collectibles market, but anyone who witnessed his highly unnecessary shot on Ray Fosse at home plate in the 1970 All-Star game knows what a jerk this guy was, and presumably still is.
by Catfish27 on Jan 2, 2007 8:37 PM PST reply actions
Charlie Hustler
Regarding Bart Giamatti
who was clearly an SOB to a certain Red...
I've got to say
by Salvatore on Jan 2, 2007 10:57 PM PST reply actions
oh almost forgot, Lefty Grove
When Lefty threw BP, he had a rule: no one was allowed to 1.hit it hard, or 2. up the middle, or he would HIT HIS OWN GUYS in BP. Doc Cramer used to try to hit the last pitch of his BP session up the middle, since retaliation wouldn't be forthcoming. But apparently Lefty would remember and hit him the next time he pitched BP!
Sal "the Barber" Maglie
by Salvatore on Jan 3, 2007 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
BURLEIGH GRIMES
by Catfish27 on Jan 4, 2007 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
awesome!
by Brian in 317 on Jan 7, 2007 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
two more oldtimers
Carl Mays was a submarine style pitcher with a great reputation for throwing inside (led the league in Hit batters year after year). He is the only pitcher to have killed a batter (Ray Chapman) with a pitched ball. Though he claimed it was an accident, few believed the surly pitcher who also notoriously left his team to go fishing in July because he and they were having a bad year.
Hal Chase was probably the best fielding first baseman of his era (though George Sisler was also terrific). But he was a gambler, and would manipulate on-field situations to his advantage. He was ultimately kicked out of the league when they finally found proof of his cheating ways.
Killing someone with a ball
does that include
They killed
by Salvatore on Jan 3, 2007 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
I looked up Carl Mays
by Salvatore on Jan 4, 2007 5:08 AM PST up reply actions
And also...
by Salvatore on Jan 4, 2007 5:33 AM PST up reply actions
Here are two little known AH's
John Bateman, catcher. beat up a scorekeeper after a game because he felt he was ripped off when he called his "hit" an error.
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Too bad Latrelle Sprewell didn't play baseball...
Alox,
by Salvatore on Jan 4, 2007 11:18 AM PST reply actions

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