DLD 9/23/2006
Ken Rosenthal gets snarky about Esteban in assesing this offseason's crop of free agent proven veteran pitchers.
Andre Ethier no longer looks like the 1st ballot HOFer that Bill Plaschke touted him as.
A prolonged September slump in which he is batting .128 with no home runs and one run batted in has relegated Ethier to a second-stringer recently, with Marlon Anderson getting the majority of starts in left field."I don't know if I'm going to be here next year or not," said Ethier, who before Friday was batting .314 overall with 11 homers and 54 RBIs and remained in the running for National League rookie of the year. "It's pretty obvious by the way the last couple of weeks have been going."
General Manager Ned Colletti appeared stunned when informed of Ethier's comments, saying, "I plan to have him here. He's got a long, good future ahead of him in L.A."
Ethier's OPS: 854, BABIP: 366
Milton's OPS: 803, BABIP: 307
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I guess
by china bob on Sep 23, 2006 7:45 AM PDT reply actions
agreed
by guy incognito on Sep 23, 2006 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Cutter
by Colorado Fan on Sep 23, 2006 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
my bad
by guy incognito on Sep 23, 2006 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Definitely
by Colorado Fan on Sep 25, 2006 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Roy is back on Saturday!
ROY STEELE IS BACK!
Well, for one game anyway...
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/indexn?blogid=21
by pogieboy on Sep 23, 2006 8:27 AM PDT reply actions
That's awesome!
-Nick Swisher
by kaweahkaweah on Sep 23, 2006 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Figures...
by secret ASian man on Sep 23, 2006 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
some links
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2006/09/23/SPGV0LB1H61.DTL
"Thomas deserves every accolade coming his way, but there isn't nearly enough credit given to Milton Bradley. Given his history, maybe it's wise to wait until season's end, but this ranks with the greatest moves ever pulled by GM Billy Beane, a frightening gamble that paid off in a million ways. The stat geeks can't seem to figure out the A's success, given the injuries and paltry offensive numbers (especially before this month). Just watch Bradley during the course of a game, the astonishing energy he brings to the field, his interaction with teammates. That's a big reason right there."
so now that his giants are dead and the a's are going to the playoffs as statheads predicted, jenkins is going to tell us with a straight face that "stat geeks can't seem to figure out the a's success."
how do these people sleep at night...
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new york times magazine article on ken mehlman:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/magazine/24melman.html
When Mehlman talks about politics, he doesn't talk about Machiavelli; he talks about "Moneyball," Michael Lewis's book about how the Oakland A's employed statistical modeling to assemble a powerhouse baseball team, sending to pasture the old-line scouts with their years of calling it from their guts. "We are the party of 'Moneyball!"' Mehlman proclaimed, practically shouting and bouncing on the balls of his feet, talking to a room of slightly bewildered Republicans in California last year. "They measured everything. We are doing the same thing in politics."
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from mccovey chronicles:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/story/2006/9/22/111638/432
"Well, that would not be necessary Mr. Sabean. Winning a pennant could easily be accomplished with scouting. And the scouts could be told to accept factors ranging from years played, veteran experience, service time, experience, and experienced veterans, to a cross section of other necessary skills.
Of course, it would be absolutely vital that our top veterans and experienced players be included to foster and impart the required principles of leadership and tradition. Naturally, they would win prodigiously, eh? There would be much time, and little to do. But, ah, with the proper free agent signing techniques and a ratio of, say, ten veterans to each rookie, I would guess that we could then work their way back to a division title within, say, twenty years."
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a mcc reader wants to fight matt morris:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/story/2006/9/21/235459/889
the comment with the shoulder surgery diagram is quite interesting, and one of the responses makes me wonder if that person has been reading AN.
Bruce Jenkins is just horrible
As recently as mid-July, he wrote confidently that the Angels would pull away from the A's to win the division.
And early in the season he wrote "Colletti is being labeled a genius down south, mostly because it's so refreshing to have Paul DePodesta, his predecessor, out of the way. Unlike the introspective, almost secretive DePodesta, Colletti is an old-school guy in the Brian Sabean image, a guy who works the room, talks to scouts, makes his presence felt throughout the organization. ... The Dodgers are absolutely certain they will win the division. For a team torn apart by dreadful trades, conflicting philosophies and Milton Bradley, that is a most refreshing change."
But now supposedly it's the "stat geeks" who are surpised? Christ, what an asshole.
agree 100%
sort of disagree
In short, Jenkins is well-meaning but ignorant. Plaschke is a propagandist and the gleeful tool of bullies.
i'll grant you the first point
however, i'm sure jenkins would lead a similar mob if a bunch of "stat nerds" took over the front office of the giants.
Yeah, I've written Jenkins
What's most stunning is how he won't ever own up to the truth. Case in point: Pitcher workload. People said Dusty was ruining the Cubs staff--he mocked them. The Cubs staff broke down--he continued to mock critics, never giving an inch. What? How can that be? Jenkins on baseball is like Bush on Iraq and torture and everything else: He sees what he wants to see; the facts and the truth are never allowed to intrude.
also
jesus, maybe they're the same person...
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=21&entry_id=9176
Screw "Manny being Manny." That act has grown tired.
and there's also this:
But when the sides are chosen for a game that matters, A-Rod stands with his hands on his hips while Scutaro, Chavez and a hundred other guys get picked ahead of him.
sorry jenkins, i can't really think of a 100 players i would rather have for a game that matters, and i'd take a-rod over scutaro and chavez in a heartbeat.
I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOO excited!!!!!
I'm already bouncing around in great excitement!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!! I have tickets for tomorrow too, so DOUBLE YAY!!!!! :) :) :) :)
it starts with this...
LOL
The true reason why I have no spouse or kids....my only commitment is to the Oakland A's... :)
I posted this in the game thread...
*Magic #: F.P. Santangelo!*
free gratis?
this could also have been a reply
Tread lightly...
Hollywoood Oz
Between you and me, we were right. I'm saying that with a smile, happy that it all turned out so well.
Oh, I know it.
woohoo!
by whiteshoes40 on Sep 23, 2006 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
the a's have already won
http://catfishstew.baseballtoaster.com/archives/517223.html
Derogatory team names in sports?
i'm not buying him not buying it
what if the washington redskins had been called the washington n**gers when they were created, but not because that was a derogatory term but for other reasons?
on this subject
i agree
i think the name "redskins" is borderline. i'm not a fan of the name, but i can understand why a professional sports team would be hesitant to change the name they have been identified with for so long (since 1933 according to wikipedia).
I heard Russell Means
Even if you accept his premise
Let's say you call me a "yellow, slant-eyed, sallow, foot-binding chink" plus whatever other racial stuff used against Chinese (As you can tell from my lame insults, I can't think of any). Assume that your feelings and conduct towards me is respectful.
Does that mean that you can go around calling people racial epithets, as long as your intentions were amiable?
In my opinion the names are acceptable, if the group involved has no problems with them.
argumentative, but not an argument
All that being said, I think the DC football franchise should relocate to Virginia, and adopt the nickname "Macacas."
Rosenthal and Ethier
The Loaiza column was kind of funny, but also just stupid at this particular time. Loaiza was essential in getting the team that signed him to the playoffs. Without him the A's probably don't win the West. There's really nothing to mock there. And more: the last two months have been so good that it's reasonable to feel that the loss of Zito won't hit the A's as hard as it might have--another reason he was signed. So on the two most critical counts the signing has been a success. That makes Rosenthal an ass. Matt Morris was the obvious choice to be mocked, but as everybody in the Bay Area has learned this year Matt's "a great guy" and "a gamer" and "tough as nails" and a bunch of other meaningless crap, so I guess he's untouchable even though he contributed mightily to his team being home this October.
As for Ethier. I regularly check his stats--and, yes, irrationally root against him. The guy has not hit a home run in forever. He is literally in an Eric Byrnes fall off the face of the Earth slump the last six weeks.
what are you talking about
and how could morris be mocked instead when sabean is a genius for signing him?
Have you heard Sabean on Morris
And Rosenthal: I guarantee you that right now he's putting on his suit and readying himself for a live Fox interview that add absolutely nothing of value to anything anyone who watches baseball knows.
I like Rosenthal
The snarkiness about Kris Benson was spot on. And he managed to resist bringing up Kris' wife.
I agree with you about Ethier. That's why I posted the OPSs and BABIPS. I think he projects maybe to be a Byrnes or Coco Crisp type of player. I just find it amusing that Plaschke recently was making him seem to be a 1st ballot HOFer.
Hey guys, I have a question.
</sarcasm>
I sick of the bitching about HH.
can I get a Amen
And have at least three recommendations.
"No. It's Oakland."
Bold Question
They do, after all, have less capacity (though average ticket prices are thus higher). But, there is also the fact that MLB might make them open up the 3rd Deck for the Championship and World Series.
But I have the feeling that unless we face the Yankees in the Championship and the Mets in the World Series, we wouldn't sell anything up there.
F---ing FOX!
I know what you mean
I drove 20min to see the game on FOX....
Tim Kurkjian
Like so many national mediots, he seems intent on making a fool out of himself. According to him, the A's flaws are Esteban and Harden.
Ok.
he obviously hasn't been watching the A's lately.
by larrysgurl on Sep 23, 2006 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought he made some good points,
All he said about Harden is that he's not 100% (very true) and that Loaiza doesn't have a good October history (also true).
by WaddellCanseco on Sep 25, 2006 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow.
Let angels be angels and let A's be A's. works better that way.

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