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We're A's fans. We cheer alike. We boo alike. We throw chairs alike. I'd be willing to bet, though, that there's an issue for each of us that strays from a popular AN opinion and that's what I am interested in.

I'm curious. In what areas are you a member of a minority (or even solo) opinion? Do you like Macha? Think we should bunt more often? Are you not heartbroken about Zito's upcoming departure?

Spill. I promise that tarring and feathering will be kept to a minimum.

Star-divide

Here are mine:

1.) I like Derek Jeter. In fact, I like most of the Yankees. And of the few Yankees I dislike, two of them are former A's.

2.) I would like to steal more bases, especially on catcher's with poor percentages. I had hoped to do more running on Victor Martinez.

3.) Zito's departure is going to affect me a whole lot less than that of Hudson or Mulder.

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I think Mt. Davis is an architectural gem
on par with the Taj Mahal, Calatrava's sundial bridge in Redding, and Seattle's new Public Library.  I spend all game ogling the gorgeous sea of green across from me.
Oh wait, you were being serious.  Sorry.

by DavidA on Sep 21, 2006 10:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree
Al Davis is an archiological gem.  Perhaps if they dust off that skeletor they deduce its age.
Hard work never hurt anyone, but I'm not taking any chances.

by Alameda Greg on Sep 21, 2006 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one who thinks of Larry Davis...
...whenever someone mentions "Mt Davis"?
"It's time to blow this team up." - Oaktoon, July 2006

by Ozzz on Sep 21, 2006 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree 100% on #1.
(You are talking about Giambi and Jackson, right?)

by Flyin As on Sep 21, 2006 10:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Corey Lidle?
Mike Venafro?  (wait, that's colorado.)

by MobiusKlein on Sep 21, 2006 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Octavia Dotel?
"And Guardado deals. It's a drive to left field deep. Jones going back. Looking up! It is GONE! IT'S GONE! TEJADA WINS IT! DO YOU BELIEVE IT! 18 WINS IN A ROW!"

by Plunkage on Sep 21, 2006 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think situations DO matter
to a player's performance.

 * With good coaching, players can learn and get better, and exceed their previous career means.

 * With a suitable environment, players can play at the top of their capabilities, rather than in the middle or at the bottom.  I think, for example, that if Jermaine Dye weren't getting the "you must be patient and walk" message drilled into his head, he'd have been a much better player his final year in Oakland.

 * I think that with more playing time, Antonio Perez would be a much better hitter.  Not true of Ginter.

 * A-Rod has not been as clutch as Jeter in his career.  I think there's a difference between a home run when your team's up 6-1 in the 8th vs. down 3-2 in the 9th.  The situation is different, the crowd is acting differently, the adrenaline is flowing -- can a player transcend all that and perform anyway?  Jeter has shown he can.  The Hurt has shown that he can.  A few players are naturals at this (I can't even think of any) but most have to learn how.  This is where the "veteran presence" matters.  Anyway....I do believe that most players freak out when a big hit is needed, and that reduces their ability to produce said big hit.  And I think A-Rod will learn how but hasn't yet.

As an aside, I think Street is going to be REALLY good next year.  He's a kid, he's willing to learn, he's got great stuff and a great attitude.  

Ba de yah!

by oblique on Sep 21, 2006 10:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My unpopular/controversial opinions
  1. I like Dan Johnson, and I think he can still be a productive player.
  2. Where the A's play their home games means little to me.
  3. I like Darin Erstad, even if he is an Angel.
  4. I don't have a problem with Macha's laid back style.
  5. I'm not a big fan of Adam Melhuse.
  6. I don't believe there is such a thing as trolling.
  7. I don't have blind faith in Billy Beane.
  8. I'm not going to miss Zito that much. I still miss Hudson.
  9. I think Lew Wollf has been a good owner so far.
  10. I never liked Jose Canseco.
  11. I respect comprehensive statistics and metrics more than scouts.
  12. I think Joe Buck is a decent broadcaster.
  13. I rarely read Nico's game summaries. Sorry Nico, I don't mean you any harm, it's just that I'm not often interested in them. They're often too cutesy.
  14. No offense, but I was never that impressed with Bill King. He was good, but not fantastic.
  15. I'm hungry. Wait, no, that's not an unpopular opinion, I'm just hungry...
Ok, stone throwers, ready? And... go.

I hope this won't be remembered as the diary where they killed Nebraska...

--Nebraska--

ThePastime

by Ryan Armbrust on Sep 21, 2006 10:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

you better duck
how can you say that Joe Buck is a decent broadcaster and then say that you were never impressed with Bill King
"...we don't score six, seven runs. We score three, four runs and play defense and pitch." - Eric Chavez

by pickinmachine on Sep 21, 2006 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

difference
Bill King > Joe Buck

by a long shot.

However, I don't think Bill King was a god, and neither do I think that Joe Buck is completely crappy.

King was still much better, though. I just don't think either was at an extreme end of the spectrum.

--Nebraska--

ThePastime

by Ryan Armbrust on Sep 21, 2006 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

my opinion of Joe Buck
is largely based on my recollection of his call of Big Mac's #62 in 1998. I was really sick that day, and my dad brought a small black and white TV into my bedroom so I could watch the game. (Even though he was a Cardinal by then, McGwire was my favorite player growing up.)

I was 13 at the time, and the home run, combined with Buck's enthusiasm, really stuck with me.

So that's why I don't hate on Joe Buck, even though he probably deserves it.

Remember, this is unpopular opinions, not "unpopular theories backed up by solid evidence".

--Nebraska--

ThePastime

by Ryan Armbrust on Sep 21, 2006 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

as with many broadcasters ...
... especially baseball guys, they get far, far worse when they move to a national stage.

Even <gasp!> Tim McCarver used to be pretty good.

And my heretical thought is that I actually kinda like Tim McCarver, even now.

A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tim McCarver will always...
have a special place in my heart for calling Scott Spezio's happy zone right before he hit it out....

by BleacherDave on Sep 21, 2006 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

McCarver got burned
The other night on Family Guy... and When that Joe Buck commercial comes on before every MLB.tv game I want to punch him in the face.
"I see Milton Bradley being the Oaktown player that breaks out this year." breaks out... breaks out of where? jail?

by gdub171 on Sep 21, 2006 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and Angela Lansbury once had a sweet takedown
... of Vin Scully on Murder, She Wrote ...
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you weren't that impressed with Bill king...
you're either:
a) not old enough to remember him doing A's, Warriors and Raider games.
b) don't care that he did
c) didn't listen to the A's everyday in the 80s and 90s
d) just rocking the boat for the hell of it..

regardless, I like the post...just don't nobody talk bad 'bout BILL KING!!!

"Straight outta Oakland, California where we sparkin on ya" - 2Pac

by Erik being Erik on Sep 21, 2006 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well
I'm from Nebraska, and I've heard Bill King broadcast perhaps a dozen games in my life, so that's a factor.

I knew the Bill King one was going to gereate some heat...

--Nebraska--

ThePastime

by Ryan Armbrust on Sep 21, 2006 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I first heard Bill's Warriors calls...
...unfortunately during the KNBR tributes to him right after his death.  I said at that time that if I had heard those calls live, I probably would also be a basketball fan now.
"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there anything more unnatural....
than listening to basketball on the radio?  Yet I spent all of the late 70's horror years listening to Bill broadcast Warriors games.

The Raiders were Bill's first love, and it showed.

by BleacherDave on Sep 21, 2006 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah,
Bill King was a Raider broadcaster, first and foremost.  He may have been the best football broadcaster there ever was - and I'm not even a football fan.  He was one of the best at basketball, too.  He was ok at baseball, but never in the same category as, say Dave Niehaus (who to me is the best of 'em all).  In his last few years, he wasn't as good as Korach and definitely on the downhill slide.  His stories and vocabulary were still great, but his game calling was deteriorating.  Regardless, he was gem for his breadth of knowledge, play-by-play, versatility and quirkiness.

by iceplant on Sep 22, 2006 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dave Niehaus
is the sh!tt!est baseball broadcaster I've ever heard.  He's not that articulate, he can be a blatant homer, and his voice doesn't ring like song.  Ken Kourac's voice is musical (albeit a bit monotone).  Bill King's was like midwestern Shakespeare.  Dave Niehaus is like a boisterous stockbroker sitting at the barstool next to you that makes you want to leave the tavern.

by K56 on Oct 24, 2006 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

see Nebraska!
There are Trolls!

(oh wait...who's trolling who here?)

Frank, what is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of RevHaloFan!

by 510inDenver on Sep 21, 2006 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Nico's wrapups...
Mostly because he's funny in a way that I wish I could be.
"Today, everyone did do what I wanted!!"~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 21, 2006 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We all wish the same thing
About your wrap-ups being funny (or even interesting) I mean. ;)
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, my warm, fuzzy thread mojo thread
today is totally backfiring!
"Today, everyone did do what I wanted!!"~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 21, 2006 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like I said below
I'm with ya on the warm fuzzies. But that has nothing to do with your postgame wrap-up skills.

Or lack of said skills.

Just out of curiosity, do you prefer it when I twist the dagger counter-clockwise or would you rather I stick to the more common clockwise motion?

Because I'm all about you being warm and fuzzy. :)

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, fwiw
I like your writing, BBG...
--Nebraska--

ThePastime

by Ryan Armbrust on Sep 21, 2006 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awww...well, thanks.
And what does grover know? He doesn't even <gasp> hate the Angels.
"Today, everyone did do what I wanted!!"~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 21, 2006 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know this much
With the demise of jrbh, reztips and oaktoon I am the last of the Dark Siders.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and Sal's the last of the Dork Siders
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think grover is cute....
...and looks great in a dress.

how's that for unpopular?

"The Matt Watson/Chiba Lotte Marines Fan Club"-Through Sept 13th: GMS:61,AVG:.282,OBP:.366,SLG:.429, doubles:11, homers:5, RBI:20

by bigelephant on Sep 21, 2006 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got the legs
to make that look work. BBG doesn't and that's why she's so not funny.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

interesting.
i sense a AN contest coming. some type of distorted AN Idol thing happening.

BBG! will you take on grover's challenge???

"The Matt Watson/Chiba Lotte Marines Fan Club"-Through Sept 13th: GMS:61,AVG:.282,OBP:.366,SLG:.429, doubles:11, homers:5, RBI:20

by bigelephant on Sep 21, 2006 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DUDE.
If it's one thing I have, it's legs.

Well...that I can mention on this slightly-PG-13-but-not-R thread.

"Today, everyone did do what I wanted!!"~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 21, 2006 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't that be TWO things?
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha ha.
;)
"Today, everyone did do what I wanted!!"~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 21, 2006 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shouldn't that be 3 things?
Or are you counting certain items in group form?
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly
Why waste the energy?
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Baseballgirl
I look forward to your wrap-ups the most out of all of them.  You have a very creative, ingenious and hilarious voice.  If I could write like you I would be writing constantly.

by Daddo on Sep 22, 2006 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grover, I disagree with you...
I think BBG and Nico's writing are two different styles.  However, they have both been informative, entertaining AND have made me laugh!
Lance Armstrong can make homophobic jokes on ESPN, yet Harold Reynolds pays the ultimate price? Explain that to me.

by gmoneymcg on Sep 21, 2006 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't like that comment at all.
And I don't like this one either.
Ba de yah!

by oblique on Sep 21, 2006 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

<golf clap>
Bravo!
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Christ, what an asshole!
Some are sabermetricians.

by andeux on Sep 21, 2006 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stay right there
My point will eventually work its way back towards your direction. When you see the light, bask in its illumination.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like BBGs writing
and I love Nicos. I think he has a very good baseball mind and his quick wit impresses me to no end.

BBG has a very intimate, friendly way of writing that i find very charming and readable.

by IM4Oakgal on Sep 21, 2006 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm charming and readable!!!!
Eat your heart out, Ray Ratto!
"Today, everyone did do what I wanted!!"~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 21, 2006 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i take serious offense
at #15. How dare you, sir. How dare you.

by sardonic on Sep 21, 2006 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here goes,
  1. I'm not a Yankees fan, but they have some of the classiest coaches and players the game has ever seen. I root for them to beat the Red Sox, because everything you can say about NY's dignity and class goes out the window when you talk about Boston.
  2. I think Barry Zito is WAY over-rated.  Solid pitcher -- great career here -- played "every day,"-- too laid back for my taste, won't miss him when he's gone.
  3. I think T. Long gets a bad rap -- always played hard (wherever they moved him,) and made some great plays for us.  Yeah, he spoke his mind a couple times (just like Payton, Bradley, Byrnes, etc.) but all in all, I thought he played his ass off for Oakland and received very little credit for it.
VacaAsFan

by Vacafan on Sep 21, 2006 10:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

With regards to T.Long
The reason he never got any credit was because he sucked ass. Big time. Like BIG time.

I seriously cannot illustrate how much ass Terrence Long sucked.

Like think if at the beginning of this year Chavez had gotten hurt and then Perez had started the whole year, performing like he has.

Then we'd be sorta talking about Terrence Long.

there's simply no club like the white elephant club

by walk off bunt on Sep 21, 2006 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why T. Long was great
T. Long played every outfield position and only had trouble in CF.
He wasn't a true leadoff hitter.
He had the only hit that gave us a chance to score when Jeremy.... you know...

He should have been rookie of the year if it wasn't for a 36 year old guy in Seattle

He gave me a baseball at an Angel game.

I love T. Long...

"Straight outta Oakland, California where we sparkin on ya" - 2Pac

by Erik being Erik on Sep 22, 2006 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree with #1
I can't stand the Yankees, but my revulsion for the Red Sox exceeds everything I've experienced in sports.  Beginning with Schilling, their players largely lack class and the worst 10-15% of their fans totally lack class.  I can usually barely enjoy a game when sitting near them because of their constant barrage of insults to A's fans and players.
Bill James on Duane Kuiper: "It's absolutely incredible that a player this bad could be given 3000 at bats in the major leagues." -- Baseball Abstract, 1982

by blueconversechucks on Sep 22, 2006 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto
The Yankees and Red Sox are the same.  They are 1 & 2 in terms of payroll.  The Red Sox are NO underdog, and the fact that everyone is supposed to feel sorry for them is bullshit.  The Yankees players and their fans at least have class, which is why I always root for the Yanks over the Sox unless the outcome would otherwise help the A's.  

by antigiants on Sep 22, 2006 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's mine...
I think Nick Swisher is a pretty ugly dude. He's not hot in any way, shape, or form. They only way he can be hot is when he has a 4-for-4 day.
Chicks dig Moneyball.

by Kelly on Sep 21, 2006 10:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree
of course, I'm a straight guy...

But 4/4 is always good.

--Nebraska--

ThePastime

by Ryan Armbrust on Sep 21, 2006 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you objecting to my happy fuzzy thread?
I didn't even mention Chavez being mostly dead yet!

WARM FUZZIES, PEOPLE!

"Today, everyone did do what I wanted!!"~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 21, 2006 10:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mark me a fan of the warm fuzzies
They are a vital component to my work.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Warm Fuzzies
Sorry, BBG. I'm not trying to ruin the warm fuzzy. I'd been wanting to post it for a little while, and figured that since my boss was out of the office, now was a good time.

Yay for the return of Rich. Wheeee!

Kettlecorn! Swishercorn!

by TurnTwo on Sep 21, 2006 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just kidding.
It's a really great diary.

I would say that I'm not a fan of Macha, but I was not a fan before it was cool not to be a fan!

"Today, everyone did do what I wanted!!"~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 21, 2006 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're not alone in your 3, TurnTwo
I agree with most of your list... except that I probably don't like as many Yankees as you do.  But I like Jeter.

I also like Macha far more often than not... not only do I think he's a good manager, I think he's really funny.

I won't cheer for Esteban Loaiza.  I don't applaud his introduction, or his departure after a good start, or any strike he throws unless the batter swung at it & missed/fouled.  He gets enough loud love from the rest of the crowd, I'm sure he doesn't miss having it from me.

I prefer Ginter to Perez.

I have no idea what any current player's current stat on anything is (except "Street's 35th save" managed to stick to my brain last night).

"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 10:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I root for the Yanks when the A's are:
Out of it.
"I think we just feel that now is our time." - Nick Swisher

by saint on Sep 21, 2006 10:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BOOO!
"the reason why hitting the ball on the "sweet spot" of the bat feels so good is that the ball is contacting at the bat at a vibrational node." - salb918

by McFood on Sep 21, 2006 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the A's win despite Macha,
he never rests guys enough or play the reserves enough.  I will not miss Zito, he is not a #1 starter despite the fact I once thought he would be, his walks and K's are almost equal which bodes poorly for him if he leaves the pitcher friendly Coliseum.  He might do all right in the NL if he goes to Petco which is where I expect him to go.
He is far too erratic to pay the money he is going to get paid.

by china bob on Sep 21, 2006 10:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I still like Jason Giambi
  1. I have no hard feelings toward him whatsover, and a very small part of me would like to see him win a World Series. This small part is often beaten senseless by the large part that wants the A's to win the World Series, but it's still there.
  2. I agreed with Melhuse for Dye.
  3. I'm a Ken Macha fan.

by Dog Days on Sep 21, 2006 10:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Melhuse for Dye??!!
Man, I thought that was stupid!  You don't ever, ever pinch-hit for your best power hitter/highest paid player/most likely to hit a fly ball/been in far more "clutch" situations than a bench catcher/hit a huge home run in the previous playoff game/Lowe's slider will break back into him - player.  Over-managing at it's zenith.
VacaAsFan

by Vacafan on Sep 21, 2006 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best hitter?
It's all about context. Melhuse had just pounded Red Sox pitching in Boston, and Dye couldn't hit a lick that year. Or that series. He looked lost up there.

Not over-managing at all. The right call.

by Dog Days on Sep 21, 2006 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed 100%, DD
I'm with you on the Melhuse-for-Dye tip.
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have mixed feelings on that decision,
but as for Dye not hitting well that series, he did hit a HR the day before.

by mikeA on Sep 21, 2006 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Melhuse for Dye
I was surprised but I liked the move. I thought Melhuse gave us the better shot at a hit to win the game. Dye best chance was a Sac Fly.

I'm pretty sure that macha said he was playing for the win that inning because Foulke wasn't available.

by Larry E on Sep 21, 2006 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

except...
Melhuse still strikes out everytime he pinch hits
"Straight outta Oakland, California where we sparkin on ya" - 2Pac

by Erik being Erik on Sep 22, 2006 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh
What does the pinch hitting of the 2006 model Melhuse have to do with the having a hot series Melhuse of 2003?  

Melhuse was 3-4 in the series going into that last AB. Jermaine Dye hit .172 that year and was 3-13 in the series.

by Larry E on Sep 22, 2006 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except except
everyone but Macha could see that Dye was about to be given the IBB.
"Even if you know the deck is stacked in your favor, you still have to have the discipline to trust the math and the cojones to go to the ATM." BB

by green star oakland on Sep 22, 2006 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Singleton
How does anyone know what would have happened to Dye and how does anyone feel better knowing that their season rests in the hands of Chris Singleton.

by Larry E on Sep 22, 2006 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure I understand, but
(i) Grady Little was showing 4 fingers as Dye approached the plate, presumably intending to load the bases for the DP.

(ii) Melhuse could then have batted for Singleton (although in reality Melhuse struck out and Singleton walked).

Either way, loading the bases with 1 out puts a lot more pressure on the pitcher that having first open, and if any team is going to win by walking home the tying run in the bottom of the 9th its the A's.

"Even if you know the deck is stacked in your favor, you still have to have the discipline to trust the math and the cojones to go to the ATM." BB

by green star oakland on Sep 22, 2006 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same result
I don't think that having the bases loaded as opposed to 2nd and 3rd would have made any difference ... Melhuse strikes out, Long strikes out.

by Larry E on Sep 22, 2006 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

all in all
I think we can all agree that was the worst of the 4 playoff series.

by Emmett89 on Sep 22, 2006 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My unpopular opinions
Why do I feel the sudden need to list 95% of my comments?

Anyways...

  1. I kinda like the Wave. I've never been to a game when I thought the timing was inappropriate considering the on-field situation.
  2. I think Ken Macha has done more to cost the A's ballgames than the Wave.
  3. Crosby is Fool's Gold. Time to move on.
3b) Harden, Rich (See Above)
  1. I wish Beane had managed to bring Jason Giambi back when the Yankees were looking to send him down to the minors a couple years ago.
  2. More team speed please. The A's haven't won a playoff series since Rickey was the lead-off hitter. Just saying.
  3. I don't really hate the Yankees. Or the Angels. But I do hate the lack of A's coverage on TV.
  4. Buying a Colesium Dog used to be one of the highlights of my game experience... not so much anymore.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 10:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

giambi
GOD, how many times are you going to bring giambi up.  we get it, you and those other people were right, we should have brought him back.  
i hate people like you who always have to say "i told you so"...

http://www.athleticsnation.com/story/2005/5/12/8268/27006

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 21, 2006 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope people follow your link
otherwise they'll think you woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, i have been in a bad mood
b/c i've been sick for almost a week, and then i slipped and sprained my elbow this morning at 6am.  
but i'll hold off on the TJ surgery until the winter.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 21, 2006 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to hear of your ills
I've got a 3 year old trying to hack up his lungs. Get well, and you earn Man Points for holding off on the TJ surgery.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks
also holding off on missing school (i'm in class right now) because i need to save it for playoff games.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 21, 2006 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

More Man Points!
You're on a hot streak, keep hurting yourself and the crown will be yours.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yet nobody writes articles
on how i'm playing through injury for the good of the team.  :-(
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 21, 2006 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

'Tis a travesty
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No offense grover
seriously, I'm sorry your little one is sick -- I'm assuming it's not too serious, or I wouldn't joke ----- but have you ever considered "he's hacking his guts out" cuz you kinda like the Wave??!!
VacaAsFan

by Vacafan on Sep 21, 2006 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting theory
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus, the Royals lost. When it rains it pours, eh?
"the reason why hitting the ball on the "sweet spot" of the bat feels so good is that the ball is contacting at the bat at a vibrational node." - salb918

by McFood on Sep 21, 2006 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it pours 100 - 38.2 percent of the time
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 21, 2006 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i way agree on 3(b)
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dunno
maybe he can still be josh beckett
"WTF is wrong with you people TASTELESS COMMENTS. I'm disgusted. Mocking a 10 year old's horrible painful death." --eshock

by rubin sierra on Sep 22, 2006 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Larry Davis' tie-dyes
Also, I miss oaktoon.
Like the Swingin' A's...except that Reggie is batting RH!!! -- saint

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Sep 21, 2006 10:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lol
I sorta miss Oaktoon too. Wonder where he went?
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 21, 2006 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I firmly believe
that Eric Chavez is not dead.
Ba de yah!

by oblique on Sep 21, 2006 10:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Unpopular Opinions
  1. I don't think Barry Zito is an ace. He sure as hell isn't my ace.
  2. I don't like Marco Scutaro. At. All.
  3. I like Ken Macha. He's f'in hilarious. We could do so much worse than Ken.
  4. I like A-Rod. Screw you, Yankee fans.
  5. I miss Huddy. Mulder, eh.
  6. I like Chad Gaudin.
  7. jrbh didn't bother me.
  8. Neither does Rev.
  9. I like the tarps.
  10. Huston Street- eh, not so hot.
  11. "Celebration", or whatever the song is they play after wins, if horrible. This is 2006, folks. Can't we get a new song?
  12. I really don't want Rich Harden pitching today.
  13. I hate the magic number posted on the AN front page.
  14. I like KenKo more than I like Bill King.
"...see how the ?ber-nerds debate the PAPER QUALITY of the signs they plan to bring..."

by Jennifer on Sep 21, 2006 10:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with 2,6,9 and 11
And I don't know jrbh is, so I guess I agree with that one, too.
Kettlecorn! Swishercorn!

by TurnTwo on Sep 21, 2006 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last year...
...I made a point of wearing my Hudson shirt to Zito's starts (I wear a Harden shirt now, the Hudson shirt is pretty ratty).
"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree on
all but 7,8,11,12
--Nebraska--

ThePastime

by Ryan Armbrust on Sep 21, 2006 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

<swoon>
"I almost landed in some lady's lap, which was kinda fun.'' -- Swish

by Sharon on Sep 21, 2006 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOO! on the last 2
Otherwise, <throws glitter>.

(And I love KenKo, don't get me wrong. Just not as much as Bill.)

A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't really get to listen to Bill
like most others here. When I did, I just connected more to KenKo. I didn't hate Bill. Not. At. All.
"...see how the ?ber-nerds debate the PAPER QUALITY of the signs they plan to bring..."

by Jennifer on Sep 21, 2006 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I know
But what's your f'in problem with the magic number?!?
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A few things.
When I hear "magic number," I can't get "This Magic Moment" out of my head. Only I sing "This magic number" ....

Plus, I'm scared the A's won't make the Playoffs. I don't want to see the f'in thing stuck on a certain number while the Angels are celebrating.

"...see how the ?ber-nerds debate the PAPER QUALITY of the signs they plan to bring..."

by Jennifer on Sep 21, 2006 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll eat a can of glitter if the A's don't make it
... make the playoffs, that is, not make the can of glitter.
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leave Kool and the Gang
alone -- us 30 and 40-somethings have paid our dues, dammit! :-)
VacaAsFan

by Vacafan on Sep 21, 2006 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't spray ME with the H8erade!
That one's all on Jennifer.
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish the A's could stay in Oakland
It seems that the Oakland part of the A's isn't very important to most fans, but Oakland is as important to me as the A's are.
"Game THREADS/posters piss me off more than games." -Jennifer

by ArakSOT on Sep 21, 2006 10:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate the green tops
They look terrible.
I think I would run screaming if I had to endure thh A's clubhouse for a season.
I like Ken Macha.
I think only starting center fielders and short stops should be allowed to have high socks.  
I would not like to be Milton Bradely's team mate.  
The baseball season is about 3 weeks too long for me.
I hate the wild card.
I think Nick Swisher looks like a haockey goalie with all the crap he wears at the plate.
I dont like Bobby Crsby.  not as a person mind you, but I have never seen what everyone else sees.  
Eric Chavez is not a leader and I don't care.   I don't think he has improved much since he was a rookie though.
I don't hate the angles or the Giants.  I just don't.  In fact, the only team I hate is the Red Sox, who gloat when they win and whine when they loose.

by mikedaviswhereareyou on Sep 21, 2006 10:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

All what stuff Swisher wears to the plate?
A shin guard?
"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and the elbow wraps
He has not worn that elbow sleeve recently, but he used to seem taped up pretty well on that side.  

by mikedaviswhereareyou on Sep 21, 2006 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He hasn't worn arm padding for a long time
I'm not sure why he still wears that sleeve, though.
"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,
I live in Boston and I don't even get ESPN.  From the radio it sounded like he was still wearing it.  thats a joke.

by mikedaviswhereareyou on Sep 21, 2006 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen
to the Red Sox comment -- but I would LOVE to be Bradley's team-mate.  Guy busts his ass every day and desperately wants to win -- the A's have had far too many guys who don't do either the last few years.
VacaAsFan

by Vacafan on Sep 21, 2006 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fun
- I assume we'll lose every game.
- I think Kennedy should start.
- Gerald Perry is an ass.
- I hate KICU's little green graphic AND Brodie's pre-game bravado.
- Urban is funny as hell.
- Bradley is not a very good hitter.
"so... I'll take that as 'none of your business'" ~ ArakSOT

by eamb on Sep 21, 2006 10:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm a dreamer
I still believe Bobby Crosby will be a great shortstop, and that Rich Harden will stay healthy, and that Chavez will get key hits during pressure situations.  And when I'm really feeling hopeful, I believe this will all happen in the same game.
Nature's first green is gold...

by prana160 on Sep 21, 2006 10:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay,
this thread is a little painful.
"...see how the ?ber-nerds debate the PAPER QUALITY of the signs they plan to bring..."

by Jennifer on Sep 21, 2006 10:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I told you!
I tried with the warm fuzzies, and people are just MEAN today. ;)

When does the damn game start?! ;)

"Today, everyone did do what I wanted!!"~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 21, 2006 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm mean everyday
I just don't usually pick on you.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

try hanging out in the game-day thread...
"Game THREADS/posters piss me off more than games." -Jennifer

by ArakSOT on Sep 21, 2006 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, shut up!
All you do is complain about the game threads! But are you in there trying to make them better? You're either part of the solution, or part of the problem!

<whew>

Wow, it is a little mean in here...  ;)

"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I'm part of the problem, all right
"Game THREADS/posters piss me off more than games." -Jennifer

by ArakSOT on Sep 21, 2006 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeebus! What a grass knoll!
"the reason why hitting the ball on the "sweet spot" of the bat feels so good is that the ball is contacting at the bat at a vibrational node." - salb918

by McFood on Sep 21, 2006 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will make up for it tomorrow
by posting nothing but pictures of Kotsay and kittens.
Kettlecorn! Swishercorn!

by TurnTwo on Sep 21, 2006 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another dissenting voice
Kotsay & kittens are ugly, and puppies aren't really all that tasty.
"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh it's ON now! Watch your back, sister!
MaEl sucks.
I hate unicorns. They're not real.
Joe Morgan is more funny than annoying.
"the reason why hitting the ball on the "sweet spot" of the bat feels so good is that the ball is contacting at the bat at a vibrational node." - salb918

by McFood on Sep 21, 2006 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah?
eBay's a dumb place to buy collectibles!  I just sold a defective Frank Thomas bobblehead to some sucker!
"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG! That would be QOTM if they knew what I knew!
<quietly cries self to sleep>
"the reason why hitting the ball on the "sweet spot" of the bat feels so good is that the ball is contacting at the bat at a vibrational node." - salb918

by McFood on Sep 21, 2006 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

<evil laugh>
"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little painful, and a little fun
  1. I think Macha is a good manager, and about 10 times smarter than most of the people who call him dumb.
  2. I don't care much about the batting order, because I know it hardly matters at all.
  3. I still don't like Jason Kendall, and previous point notwithstanding, think he should bat 8th or 9th.
  4. I think Ginter and Perez would both still suck no matter how much playing time they got.
  5. I think Tejada choked in the playoffs worse than Chavez, and, though he was a very good player, I don't miss his supposed leadership at all. (More brains and less "heart" and we get past the Red Sox. Ditto Byrnes.)
  6. I see no reason to believe that Larry Davis or the rest of the medical staff is incompetent.
  7. I still think Crosby will be good.
  8. I have some opinions on some other AN members that are best left unsaid.
Some are sabermetricians.

by andeux on Sep 21, 2006 11:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No one likes a tease
Let loose on point #8!
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True
but as you may have notice people also don't like it when one points out how stupid they are.
So at this point, I guess I'm screwed either way.
Some are sabermetricians.

by andeux on Sep 21, 2006 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I love about this comment
Is how it has multiple readings. It is structured such that the intent could be many different things.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but we need more drama around here
now that reztips and oaktoon are gone
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 21, 2006 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!
We need more black hats around here.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys
are all UN-invited to my party this weekend.  Na-Na-Na!
"so... I'll take that as 'none of your business'" ~ ArakSOT

by eamb on Sep 21, 2006 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad
I guess this means you're going to be all alone this weekend.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alone?!
AAAAAAAAHHHHHH! NOOOOOOOOOOO!
"so... I'll take that as 'none of your business'" ~ ArakSOT

by eamb on Sep 21, 2006 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Screwed either way
I hold the unpopular opinion that your username should properly be pronounced like a person counting in French:  Un, deux.  I wish it were pronounced An-day-us, as in deus ex machina.  

But I suspect it's actually pronounced an-d'oh, a la Homer Simpson.

Like the Swingin' A's...except that Reggie is batting RH!!! -- saint

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Sep 21, 2006 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thought it was a reference
to how we're on AN version 2.0

AN deux, like hot shots part deux.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 21, 2006 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like how 2 and 3 contradict,
you realize that they do, yet you still put them both on the list.

8.if you think i'm sexy, you don't have to say because i already know.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 21, 2006 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh you are so sexy
especially when you wear that lace top.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think
the moonlanding was faked.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 21, 2006 11:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Angels
I don't have a visceral dislike of the Angels. I almost always root against them because they are a division rival, but I dislike the Giants, Yankees and Red Sox much, much more than the Angels. I'm not saying I'd be a fan if they were in another division -- I'd probably not pay them any attention at all -- but I really don't hate the team overall.
A's 2006 record when I attend: 12-7

by peanut gallery on Sep 21, 2006 11:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Controversial or Not...I Like Macha
  1. Larry Davis deserves CREDIT not rebuke for handling the A's injuries this year.
  2. Tony LaRussa has become a pain in the ass with his defense of McGwire.
  3. 20 years from now people will only then realize the effects of Alderson while at MLB to appreciate his contribution to baseball.
  4. Bud Selig made a mistake tying the All-Star game to the WS.
  5. Milton Bradley is underappreciated  but BB will trade him before he can completely alienate himself from the organization and fans.
  6. Swisher IS the next Giambi.
  7. The A's will be in Fremont by 2011.
  8. The Oakland A's are not Small Market anymore. They're are actually at the back end of the medium sized markets.  What's small market is is theor corporate sponsorship.
  9. Dan Johnson will hurt the A's someday, in another uniform.
  10. Bobby Crosby, alas, has digressed and needs more than just being healthy to be good.
"I've been accused of using too many words...I suppose that's like accusing Mozart of using too many notes." Bill King

by Gerard on Sep 21, 2006 11:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is #4 really an unpopular opinion?
Anyway, I concur.
"It took eight hours...seven-and-a-half to find the heart." -- Steve McCatty on Charlie Finley's heart surgery.

by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 21, 2006 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have one that's tied to that...
That All-Star Game tie was no big deal.  And it was just bad luck for Selig that he got blistered for it.  All-Star Games were all about getting everyone in the game more than winning it for over 20 years, and it was only a matter of time before an extra inning All-Star Game would become a tie because no pitchers were left.  It could've happened to Fay Vincent, A. Bartlett Giamatti, even Peter Uberroth -- but Selig was the unfortunate one to have to call it.

But yeah, tying the All-Star Game to home-field advantage in the World Series is stupid.

Rap Cat!

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Sep 21, 2006 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

optics
Yeah, point granted, but that <shrug> by Seligula was priceless.
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seligula..perfect!
Together with Sciosciopath AN's been quite a fertile nomenclature ground these last few days.
Like the Swingin' A's...except that Reggie is batting RH!!! -- saint

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Sep 21, 2006 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not mine, unfortunately
That may be a BP-ism.
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man.....
  • I love Jeter and Giambi.  I think the booing and hatred of Giambi by A's fans is ridiculous
  • I despise the white shoes, worst thing about the franchise.
  • I hate the high socks
  • I like the WS home field being decided by the ASG.
  • I loved the WBC and wish it was more often than every 3 years.
  • I think the most important player on the whoel team right now is.....Justin Duchsherer
  • While I love this site and hate when the A's are playing badly, I think the site is a lot better when the A's are playing poorly.  You can tell a lot about people in tough times.  I really enjoy and appreciate the site when the A's are not playing well.  
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Sep 21, 2006 11:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I always like
coming to this site when the A's blow a lead or something. It helps the grieving process.

- Ray Fosse annoyed me when he made that comment about flag-burning in July. But I really like the guy other than that.

"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 21, 2006 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to be crucified for this
  1. I like Ken Macha; the A's could do much worse.
  2. I respect the Giants. <ducks>
  3. As a followup of #2, I grudgingly respect BLB. <runs away>
On Sunday, Minaya ticked off a list of candidates to join the rotation, and for once this season, none of them was Jose Lima.

by rfloh on Sep 21, 2006 11:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh!
Everyone was running around talking and chatting and so forth, and in all the commotion, we forgot to crucify you!  Anyway, I suppose the job now falls to me, but I'm not up to it.  I guess you're free to go.
"WTF is wrong with you people TASTELESS COMMENTS. I'm disgusted. Mocking a 10 year old's horrible painful death." --eshock

by rubin sierra on Sep 22, 2006 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well..
I don't really know how popular or unpopular most of these sentiments are, since when people really start going haywire on certain things I just phase out, but:
  1. I like players for very intangible reasons that * gasp * aren't numerically quantifiable
  2. Umm, they closed the upper deck. Buy a bleacher ticket and shut the hell up.
  3. I think the A's should stay in Oakland, because Oakland is where they belong.
  4. I don't totally trust Lew Wolff, but I like that he is visible and present at most of the games and gets all excited. However, I expect some terrible shoe to drop that will make me hate him.
  5. The thing I like most about the Coliseum is the parking lot. Tailgate! The rest is definitely ugly.
  6. I don't get Rev apologists AT ALL. He's crass and an asshole.
  7. I've met some (read SOME) of the left field bleacher people, and had some unfortunate conversations with them, which made it clear to me they suffer under the delusion that they own the Coliseum and are best friends with all the players. I want to shake them and say "is this what it takes to make you feel important?"
That is all.
"Folding chair. Right to the base of the HR guy's spine. Incapacitates a man in seconds. Next question." --Catfish Stew

by tankerraid on Sep 21, 2006 11:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Concerning your first point
My favorite A's include Ellis, Payton, and Saarloos. I'm the same way.
Kettlecorn! Swishercorn!

by TurnTwo on Sep 21, 2006 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?!? A's in Oakland?!?
You think Oakland is where the Oakland A's belong?!? Very, very unpopular opinion there, man. You should have kept that one to yourself.
Live forever or die trying.

by oaklandpete on Sep 22, 2006 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It apparently is.
I've had some arguments on this site that have been heated about that very subject.
"Folding chair. Right to the base of the HR guy's spine. Incapacitates a man in seconds. Next question." --Catfish Stew

by tankerraid on Sep 24, 2006 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Open the floodgates
  • I like Loaiza better after his DUI and "rebirth" than I ever did before.
  • I wish some of our guys were on roids still. We look like a little league team compared to some others. I just don't want to know.
  • I bet Wash would be a shitty manager.
  • People that don't know anything about baseball, and post things reflecting that....I think I'm a better person than they are.
  • I believe I've "earned" an A's championship more than people who became fans after 2000. we're talking a lot of painful seasons, here.
  • It makes me sick that we play in a 1/3 full stadium every night during a pennant race, and while the A's inevitable move one day will hurt me like I lost a loved one....it'll be tough to blame the owner that finally pulls the trigger.
  • I believe all my exes made the biggest mistake of their lives A) getting involved w/ me and B) ever wanting it to end.
  • There are a lot of people at A's games that I wouldn't want near my kids, if I had kids or knew the names of the ones I probably do have.
  • The most fun I've ever had at A's games are being nearly blacked out and mercilessly heckling fans wearing opposing teams' shirts. I save this for special occasions.
Whew...that felt really good. How much do I owe you?
I'll try not to swear.

by Tony on Sep 21, 2006 11:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like your fifth point
They sometimes remind me of post-2002 Angels fans.
Chicks dig Moneyball.

by Kelly on Sep 21, 2006 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the best list I've seen
by the way, you HAVE earned it more than post-2000 fans!!!!!!
VacaAsFan

by Vacafan on Sep 21, 2006 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great list.
I agree on almost all of your bullets!

by IM4Oakgal on Sep 21, 2006 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the Yankees.
I used to hate them, but now I hate the Red Sox instead.

by gdubb925 on Sep 21, 2006 11:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bunting
I wish the A's would do more of it when it can produce runs.
It's It. What is it? aim: encryptthisthat

by Hit4TheCycle on Sep 21, 2006 11:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bunting
I think red white and blue bunting is vastly overrated as ballpark decor.
Like the Swingin' A's...except that Reggie is batting RH!!! -- saint

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Sep 21, 2006 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boontling
I don't think it can really properly be called a language even though wikipedia says so:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boontling

by DavidA on Sep 21, 2006 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll echo the "I miss oaktoon" comments
He often had a lot of insightful things to say, and I don't think he got a fair shake from everyone.  
"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 21, 2006 11:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i miss him
only when he's not around
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 21, 2006 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty good way to put it
"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 21, 2006 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

AN is different without him
But "fair" and "oaktoon" don't belong in the same sentence.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two-way street
He certainly wasn't fair to people, either.
"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 21, 2006 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I noticed that
once or twice
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

certainly was always interesting
I'll go along with your post.  I mainly miss the epic battles between Oaktoon, Grover, BBG, Devo...I think the list can go on.

Some of his diaries were just so "out there", and even if he was proved wrong he would just keep arguing to argue, and then sneak in a couple insults.

"...we don't score six, seven runs. We score three, four runs and play defense and pitch." - Eric Chavez

by pickinmachine on Sep 21, 2006 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still have faith in Crosby
pulling for a fellow CSULB alum.
(As I am typing this, it just occurred to me that Crosby is that person in Moneyball who 'looks' like a ballplayer).

I also had faith in Kotsay after his initial struggles...and Kendall...and Loaiza...

I want the A's in San Jose.

by easyraider on Sep 21, 2006 11:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A's signed with Oakland through 2010 with
3 one year options.

Hope you like driving to Fremont.

Billy & co. will open SJ up to the Quakes again though,

...new SSS and everything.

by A s Eh on Sep 22, 2006 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another
I am convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that there's absolutely no way the A's will stay in Oakland.
"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 21, 2006 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And
I think there's a 50/50 chance they will leave the Bay area entirely.
"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 21, 2006 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you're right
But I live too far away to give a damn.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

here's mine...
and i am ashamed of the first one:

-I like listening to Rex Hudler.  He makes me laugh and i like his passion for his team and the game of baseball.

-I am stoked about the A's possible moving to Fremont.

President of the Brent Gates Fan Club

by SoCal As Fan on Sep 21, 2006 11:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I want to become involved in a
passionate love triangle with Brad Halsey and Rich Harden.

And I'm a guy.

1972...1973...1974...1989...2006

by emperor nobody on Sep 21, 2006 12:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That reminds me...
I don't think Brad Halsey is all that hot. He photographed really well in his post-#714 press conference, though.
"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brad looks like JoeKen's son.
"...see how the ?ber-nerds debate the PAPER QUALITY of the signs they plan to bring..."

by Jennifer on Sep 21, 2006 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's the love child of...
JoeKen and Duchschererererer.
"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep, that's the one... :)
"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hubba hubba!
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh god, I love that picture.
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Sep 21, 2006 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that
"Warm-fuzzy" and "unpopular" are mutually exclusive.
Frank, what is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of RevHaloFan!

by 510inDenver on Sep 21, 2006 12:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why not?
  1. It drives me crazy that people actually say they would stop attending A's games if they left Oakland but stayed in the East Bay.
  2. I'm not sure there's another manager I'd rather have than Ken Macha; he's perfect for this team and GM
  3. I really trust statistical analysis, but love the fact that it's still chastised.
  4. If everyone embraced statistical analysis, I'd probably love "Old-school scouts."
  5. I believe Barry Zito either purposefully set up Mychael Urban on the Milton Bradley thing, asked Urban to do the team a favor by calling Bradley out just to light a spark or Zito is just an ass and doesn't like Bradley. In any case, I GUARANTEE Zito was Urban's source and doesn't really care where he plays next year as long as he gets paid.
  6. My trust in Billy Beane goes well beyond anything rational. I used to be more worried about losing him than any free agent.
  7. Evil is actually a psycological disorder, not a trait of an entire people/country/team.
  8. I don't "get" fan sites like AN, yet find myself reading it almost everyday.
  9. I still feel kind of guilty about liking the A's because I started rooting for them in 1987, although I can't believe how much 1994-1998 put me in a permanent "I just want to finish about .500" state of mind.
  10. I still can't believe Brent Gates/Ben Grieve/Bobby Crosby haven't panned out the way we though.

by FreeSanJose on Sep 21, 2006 12:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Careful what you "guarantee"
I assure AN that Zito was NOT one of my several sources for the column about Bradley. I understand why one might think that, but BECAUSE I knew people would think that, I didn't talk to Barry before writing the column at all. So your guarantee is worth no more than Roy Williams' guarantee that the Lions would win last weekend. Sorry.  

by MychaelUrban on Sep 21, 2006 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very nice response and good to see.
Ole Roy's guarantee worked out pretty well :-)
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Sep 21, 2006 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm actually glad to hear that
I guess we'll just have to continue to guess whose genius move it was to set you up like that. Unless, of course, it was a calculated move on your part, in which case AN owes you a humungous kiss on the cheek.

by FreeSanJose on Sep 21, 2006 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I "guarantee" that the source
was Jason Kendall.  Can we just keep playing along like this for awhile until we figure it out by process of elimination?

by DavidA on Sep 21, 2006 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was Brandon Buckley.
And the unicorn MaEl rode in on.
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Sep 21, 2006 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one...
that is surprised that MU perused this lengthy thread so as to pick out Item #5 of this comment?

Or, maybe he was just as fascinated with the thread as the rest of AN.  It is a great thread!

Or, maybe he just does daily searches for his name on AN.  ;-)

The Los Chokeles Chokers of Chokaheim choke again! - BruceBochte, quoting Nico

by FoolshGame22 on Sep 22, 2006 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

option #3
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 22, 2006 4:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you wrote that article
wouldn't you click on a thread titled "Unpopular Opinions," too?
"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 22, 2006 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

#3! #3!
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Sep 22, 2006 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unpopular Opinions
  1. The Red Sox are far and away my favorite team in the AL East.
  2. I have no strong feelings -- positive or negative -- about the S.F. Giants.
  3. Steve Physioc and Rex Hudler are the finest broadcast team in baseball, nay, in all sport's broadcasting history.
  4. The green tops are teh suck, as are most colored tops in baseball. Give me white at home, grey on the road any day!
  5. Although I've gone back and forth on this one over the years, I sometimes think there's a good case to be made that baseball is better without the DH (though with Frank around this year, that case seems substantially weaker...)
  6. The wildcard stinks.  Teams should have to win a division to make the playoffs. Though I was perfectly happy with two divisions per league and one round of playoffs, I'd prefer four divisions per league and no wild card to the system we have now.  
  7. While we're on the subject of playoffs, teams should not be eliminated on the basis of five-game series.  Give me seven games in each round (however many rounds there are....see #6).
  8. Interleague play is terrible for baseball.
  9. Okay, I don't really believe #3.  At all.
"It took eight hours...seven-and-a-half to find the heart." -- Steve McCatty on Charlie Finley's heart surgery.

by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 21, 2006 12:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Heee!!!
I was TOTALLY with you except for that one!!
"Today, everyone did do what I wanted!!"~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 21, 2006 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

likes, dislikes, don't-cares
Likes
  1. Tim McCarver
  2. Krukow & Kuiper (especially Krukow)
  3. the Giants
  4. Barry Bonds
  5. A-Rod
  6. Spying-on-American-citizens-without-warrants-phone-company Park (though the eponym is definitely on the dislikes list)
  7. Vince Cotroneo
  8. Ray Fosse
Dislikes
  1. Marco Scutaro
  2. Mark Kotsay
  3. Nick Swisher
  4. On-field fights and beanball wars
  5. Rich Harden
  6. Jason Kendall
Don't-Cares
  1. Performance-enhancing drugs
  2. The DH/no-DH question
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 12:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

oh, and ...
... I can't stand the home caps with the yellow bill. Goofiest-ass part of any non-expansion-team uniform in the majors.
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who do you like on our team?
"Their team is full of a bunch of shitty nobodies pieced together from the moneyball scrap yard." -- Halos Heaven 7/31/06

by SportySpice on Sep 21, 2006 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DUKE!!!
A's MVP for the last 3 years.

I'm a big Chavez booster.

I've pretty much given up on Crosby's bat, but I still love his D.

FRANK!!! of course.

KLOWN POWER!!!

Calero. (I actually think he's the hottest guy on the team.)

DJ, even though I'm coming around to the AAAA-hitter conclusion.

Ellis. Most all-round fundamentally sound player on the team.

And Zito has been and remains my favoritest A of the Beane Era.

A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm.
  1. I think Duchscherer should have a chance to convert back to a starter.
  2. I like Dan Johnson.
  3. I don't trust Lew Wolff.
  4. I like the Coliseum and I think it's not as bad as everyone says it is.
  5. Bobby Crosby will someday be used in the same sentence as 'Van Poppel' and 'Grieve'.
  6. I don't care about VORP, except when it's useful for making a joke.
  7. During interleague, I enjoy pissing off Giants fans just as much as I enjoy the games.
  8. I'd rather have Ramon back than Kendall.
  9. Whatever Mulder says doesn't matter to me, I still miss the hell outta the guy. And I miss the heck outta Huddy. Someday, I want him to be our closer.
  10. Harden should be shut down for the season.
  11. I think we're gonna miss Zito a lot next season.
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Sep 21, 2006 12:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ken Macha...
has had a good year.....

by BleacherDave on Sep 21, 2006 12:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Unpopular Opinions
1. Robert Buan is terrible. I can't listen to the postgame show. 2. I wish, just once, Kendall would change his approach and try to drive the ball. 3. Macha gets a bad rap. 4. I liked watching Barry in his (juiced) prime. I didn't like him, but I've never seen another bat swung that fast with such precision. 5. The tarps look good. 6. I'll miss Zito more than Mulder, not as much as Huddy. 7. I don't miss any of them as much as Tejada. 8. Mike Lowell merits consideration for a gold glove this year.

by dn9480 on Sep 21, 2006 1:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Forgot One
I second the disappointment in the coliseum dogs this season.  What happened?

by dn9480 on Sep 21, 2006 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great topic
but too bad so many people are wimping out and giving "unpopular" opinions that really aren't unpopular at all.  "I like Macha" or "Crosby is/isn't any good" ... ooh, that's so controversial.

Anyway, to get people fired up again, here's my two really unpopular opinions:

  1. I like Mike Scioscia, and I think he's a good manager, too.
  2. Nine times out of ten, I'd rather watch the game on TV than at the stadium.
And a few other semi-unpopular opinions:
  1. I like Joe Morgan. Yes, he's clueless on some analytical details, but I don't care. For a TV announcer, he's fun to listen to. (But his partner is even better.)
  2. I too prefer KenKo to Bill King (though I liked King, too).
  3. I always root for the AL West team in the playoffs, which means I was rooting for the Angels the past two years.
  4. I don't like Jason Kendall.  I think he's a good, smart player, but that whole old-school tough-guy thing is a big turn-off for me.
  5. I think the A's should have brought up Hiram Bocachica mid-season (as soon as he was healthy) and given him plenty of starts.
"...but we're also always open to hearing about other sandwiches if it can make our lunch better." -- Nico, channeling Billy Beane

by iglew on Sep 21, 2006 1:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, I cannot handle your opinions...
Sciosia... when you have to watch him daily living in Southern California, you will know how awful he is. Especially at the Ken-doll Brawl game in the stands. Kendall, who i cringe everytime he comes to bat with a runner on 1st and 1 out, still will always be better than Adam Melhuse at everything except hitting a HR and Staying out of inning ending DPs. Look at the ERA comparison with Melhuse and Kendall.
"I see Milton Bradley being the Oaktown player that breaks out this year." breaks out... breaks out of where? jail?

by gdub171 on Sep 21, 2006 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kendall
I just said I don't like him. I never questioned his value as a player. I agree that he's significantly better than Melhuse (and I do believe the stuff about him making the pitchers better).

A.J. Pierzynski is probably better than Melhuse, too. I dislike him even more.

"...but we're also always open to hearing about other sandwiches if it can make our lunch better." -- Nico, channeling Billy Beane

by iglew on Sep 21, 2006 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough...
But that scoscia view is one of the most unpopular around. (I used to root for him as a Catcher for the Dodgers, but man... awful manager, one of the least like in Baseball)
"I see Milton Bradley being the Oaktown player that breaks out this year." breaks out... breaks out of where? jail?

by gdub171 on Sep 21, 2006 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My personal unpopular opinion
Is that I think the Giants are sort of a fun team. Got a nice park you can go watch a game at, see some cool players that they have (Mark Sweeney is a favorite of mine, some of the younger guys are also pretty cool). I've got no problem with the Giants at all.
there's simply no club like the white elephant club

by walk off bunt on Sep 21, 2006 2:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mark Sweeney??!!
And you have the audacity to say Terrence Long sucks a**?!  
VacaAsFan

by Vacafan on Sep 21, 2006 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah
I don't have a problem with the Yankee's payroll.

There.  I said it.  

They put fans in seats, they sell TV subscriptions, they sell merchandise, they have created a brand and reaped the reward.  As long as MLB will let them, I think they should pay to win.  They have great fans and deserve it.  

While we are at it, I am fine with A-rod's contract.  
I am fine with players leaving to make as much money as possible.  
I do not expect home town discounts.
I think teams should be run as businesses, and not charities.  I think players should view themselves as commodities and not whine when they are relegated to the bench when they grow old.  It was a game.  Now, its a business.  A huge business.  

by mikedaviswhereareyou on Sep 21, 2006 2:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you
I'm totally fine with players leaving to make more money.
What I am NOT ok with is players standing in front of their lockers all year, while insisting they want to stay with their current team -- all the while knowing damn well they'll leave and play for the highest bidder.
If you're gonna go where the $$ are, then fine, but be man enough to say that from the get-go.
VacaAsFan

by Vacafan on Sep 21, 2006 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disklike the 'unwritten rules' of baseball.
Why the heck SHOULDN'T you steal on a guy with a ten-run lead?

Why shouldn't you pad your stats if the other team can't get it's act together?

Why not bunt to beat out a no-hitter?

Why not bust a double into a triple in a blow-out ninth?

Don't talk to me about 'poor sportsmanship' - the game isn't over until it's over (as the Dodgers showed a few nights ago), so it should be played full bore until that 54th out is registered.

Oh, and I would have walked the Little League stud to get to the cancer kid too. It's baseball - play the game, or stay at home.

"It's time to blow this team up." - Oaktoon, July 2006

by Ozzz on Sep 21, 2006 2:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you just described
the baseball version of Steve Spurrier :-).
"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 21, 2006 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whenever I see Bob Brenly on WGN...
...all I could think of was what a doofus he was back when he was the Diamondbacks' manager and called out the Brewers' Ben Davis for bunting for a single to break up Curt Schilling's no-hit bid a few years ago.  Milwaukee was down only 2-0 in the eighth, I believe, and couldn't care less about Schilling's no-hitter -- they had a game to win.  Moron.

So, yeah, I agree on point No. 3...

Rap Cat!

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Sep 21, 2006 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would have walked the kid too.
"Today, everyone did do what I wanted!!"~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 21, 2006 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would have struck the kid out.
No need for the walk.  Beat the best.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Sep 21, 2006 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would have walked the one kid
and then drilled the cancer kid.  Then pitch to the next guy.  Hey, if you're gonna get people mad at you -- REALLY get 'em mad at you . . . . just kidding.
VacaAsFan

by Vacafan on Sep 21, 2006 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!
You wussed out!
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me...
  • I love Marco Scutaro (everyone here seems to hate on him). I know he's not Miguel Tejada, but he's a guy other teams would love to have on the bench. While I recognize he is not the optimal everyday shortstop... he's not absolutely horrible.
  • I'm growing tired of Crosby (not related to my first point). Let's give him one more year and then start shopping for a shortstop that will play more than 50 games.
  • I think George Steinbrenner is a good owner. He does his job, putting money into the team first, and his pocket second.
  • I kind of like AT&T Park.
  • I have an eery feeling Duke is gone next year.
  • I hate the DH, and I love watching "NL baseball."
Asked where Zito's perfect fit would be, Hudson said, "Do they have a league on Mars?"
*Magic #: JOHN JAHA!*

by JLaff on Sep 21, 2006 2:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Zito should NOT get the Game 1 ALDS Start
Go with your hot hand: Loaiza.

by calvin on Sep 21, 2006 2:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you on this one
Or Harden, if he has a strong second start and seems ready to go full speed.
Chicks dig Moneyball.

by Kelly on Sep 21, 2006 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You want controversy? Here it comes
  • The best pitcher the A's have lost in the last few years is AARON HARANG
  • I don't want Miguel Tejada back.  I think he was blatantly on steroids and his performance, if not already, will really show it next year.
  • Mark Ellis is not starting calibur for a competitive team like ours UNLESS we have the power from the corner infielders to compensate, which we DO NOT.  Drop Ellis this offseason.
  • I think DUI Steve was worth the $21MM
  • When Macha was searching for a job this offseason, I wanted Larry Bowa to become the new manager SO BADLY
  • The A's will not stay in Oakland
  • I think Rickey Henderson would have been a better starting CF for us this year than Mr. Kotsay
  • I don't hate teams.  I hate fans of teams, and individual players.  With that said, I hate the fans of the Yankees, Red Sox and Angels.  And the Dodgers.  I hate Derek Lowe, AJ Pierzynski.
  • I worked for the dodgers. meh.
  • The bleachers suck without the drummers.  I'm glad you guys are back.
  • It's fun to heckle Ruben Sierra, and while I don't condone the throwing of cell phone batteries, that was pretty funny.

by noava22 on Sep 21, 2006 3:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

that wasn't me
it was Carl Everett
"WTF is wrong with you people TASTELESS COMMENTS. I'm disgusted. Mocking a 10 year old's horrible painful death." --eshock

by rubin sierra on Sep 22, 2006 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My unpopular opinions...
  1. I miss Byrnes.  He has his flaws, but he is one of the most exciting all around players in baseball.  I think the A's are missing some of his spark this year.
  2. Kendall is way overrated, but Melhuse just plain stinks.
3)The Eithier-Bradley-Perez deal worked well... for the Dodgers.  
4)In the offseason, I think the A's should trade Zito.
5)Ditto for Bobby Crosby.

by joshers on Sep 21, 2006 3:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha....If only they could deal Zito
this off-season.....If only.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Sep 21, 2006 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and...
I don't want the A's to sign Thomas for two years.

Am I the only one that feels like he's cheating fate right now?

by dn9480 on Sep 21, 2006 3:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My 2 cents:
  1.  I trust Lew.
  2.  LAAAAAAA will vastly improve their offense making them the team to beat for years to come.
  3.  Relocating to San Jose will make business sense in the long run - even if we have to pay through the nose for the rights.
  4.  We should lock up the Duke, and trade Street for a couple of stud prospects (ie starters!)
Note to joshers:  Zito is a free agent, and refer to today's game regarding Kendall.

by SoCal Rebel on Sep 21, 2006 4:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

#4 ain't so unpopular ...
... while it may not be the new CW (yet), there's a sizable group of primates who agree with you.
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh well....
  1.  Get Rev Halofan away from Nowhere Heaven and he's fairly well-mannered.  He can even have generous comments when he is not channeling his inner David Duke.
  2.  Zito's departure will hurt the A's more than Muldur or Hudson -- neither of whom was getting more reliable as they aged -- does anyone really think they would have been different if they'd stayed?  We need starters who start and start and start.
  3.  Billy's biggest challenge in the off-season is to revamp the A's fitness program so the players are fit, stay fit, and don't snap easily.
  4.  The only productive reason to bunt and/or steal is when a run will make all the difference, regardless of the cost.  The only other times players should do it is to stay in practice.  Never give away an out that could matter to the outcome of the game.
  5.  If Ellis and Crosby can't stay healthy, they have to go.  Key position players who are young have to be playing their positions most if not all of the time.  Days off are for old guys, like the BH.
  6.  I'd like to see the Duke be given a chance as starter, or as closer.
  7.  Using Street strictly in the 9th is a waste of a great talent.  How about turning him into a stopper, rather than a closer.  The most important guy in the BP is the guy you call on to come in in middle innings when the game is on the line, the tying, winning run is on base, and he has no leeway to make mistakes or take a few pitches to get into his rhythm.  Its time for the As to redefine what is key in relief pitching.
  8.  Be thankful you don't sit in the skyboxes -- its sterile, removed from the action, and the food is the absolute worst.
  9.  After we clinch this weekend, let's bring Rickey back for a one-week final fling.

by dingerpower on Sep 21, 2006 4:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL @ #1.
I can't post on Halos Heaven. I don't post there often but I was just going to when I realized that it says I am not logged in when I am. Is that how it looks when you are banned?

The guy is a strange one. I don't get into any Halo Bashing when I have posted there so I don't understand the move. I am curious as to why but whatever.

by IM4Oakgal on Sep 21, 2006 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the 2nd time today...
...I've seen Ellis being referred to as "not staying healthy" or "fragile."

He tore up a shoulder badly 2.5 years ago on a freak play, and the fact that he was able to get back to 100% says a hell of a lot about his strength, not fragility.  Last year he was completely healthy.  This year he broke a thumb while sliding into 2nd, and missed one month while it healed.

Where are the health concerns?

"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I take it back...
Last year he missed one or two 2nd-half games with FOOD POISONING.
"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't you mean GAMBLER POISONING?
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, Poppy meant food poisoning
The A's weren't in Canada when Ellis got sick.
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, it was probably GINTER POISONING
"Bastard's hitting over .300! This is the only way I'll get to play!  muahahaha..."
"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got nothing to top that
Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 21, 2006 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, mine...
  • I don't think the A's will miss Zito that much
  • I think Duchscherer would make a successful and valuable member of the rotation
  • I don't care that much whether the A's win the World Series as long as they are contenders every year
  • I don't think oaktoon's presence or absence warrants all the meta-discussion about it
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 21, 2006 4:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Methinks the blogger doth protest too much
There's about six comments out of 222 in this thread about oaktoon...
"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 21, 2006 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nic.
Man, quit saying #3 - arrrrgh! Man, that just bugs the you-know-what outta me.
Dude -- HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT?!
VacaAsFan

by Vacafan on Sep 21, 2006 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nico
I'm with you on #3.
"...but we're also always open to hearing about other sandwiches if it can make our lunch better." -- Nico, channeling Billy Beane

by iglew on Sep 22, 2006 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

interesting...
i agree on #3, i'd much rather be an a's fan over the last 10 years than a marlins or dbacks fan over that same period.  
but what's really funny is vacafan's reaction.  

earlier in this thread, when grover mentioned giambi, i pasted the link to the original giambi discussion.  

almost reggie, from that diary:
"I have decided...
To support everything Ohad and Nico say and disagree with everything Oaktoon and VacaFan have to say."

http://www.athleticsnation.com/comments/2005/5/12/8268/27006/36#36

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 22, 2006 4:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

somewhat unpopular
  1. I prefer smallball and NL baseball. But I follow the A's too closely to watch NL baseball at all.
  2. I want the Giants to do well (but not at the A's expense).
  3.  I don't trust Zito.
  4. Part of me feels like baseball before Jackie Robinson doesn't count. All baseball before the split-finger should have an asterisk by it.
  5. I don't care what the A's did in Philadelphia or KC.
  6. TV is the best way to actually watch the baseball in a baseball game. Watching live is good for sheer energy and joy and bonding with other fans, but you miss 95% of the game without a closeup of the strike zone and instant replay.
  7. I would probably dislike a significant number of the A's if I knew them personally. I try to compartmentalize that away from affecting my fanhood.

by Apricot on Sep 21, 2006 4:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: #7
Do you feel that way about the members of AN?
"the reason why hitting the ball on the "sweet spot" of the bat feels so good is that the ball is contacting at the bat at a vibrational node." - salb918

by McFood on Sep 21, 2006 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

H8R!
"Today, everyone did do what I wanted!!"~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 21, 2006 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At first, I actually did read #7 as...
...he wouldn't like most members of AN if he met them.  WTF?  Apricot's a jerk!
"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 21, 2006 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

posters named after plant life
are particularly despicable.

Wait a second...  DOH!

by Apricot on Sep 21, 2006 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey now!
A's 2006 record when I attend: 12-7

by peanut gallery on Sep 21, 2006 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmmm
  1.  It didn't bother me one bit when Macha pinch hit for Dye.
  2.  I like the tarps.
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Sep 21, 2006 4:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with those who
are not big Bill King fans. I remember complaining about him a lot over the years. Wishing he would be replaced. I do appreciate his long service but IMO he was no great talent.

I like the Giants.  
and I like the Mariners.

Oh and I still hate the tarps.

and I don't think that Mark Kotsay is a dependable enough player(health-wise) to give so much praise to.

by IM4Oakgal on Sep 21, 2006 4:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bill King
was one of a kind. My unpopular opinion is that anybody who says a bad word about Bill King is wrong.

That's right. My opinion is righter than your opinion. And that's final.

by Dog Days on Sep 21, 2006 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm with you dogdays
"he was no great talent" ... there are unpopular opinions and then there are just misstatements of fact.  Come on, IM4Oak, that's offensive to more than a few and it's brazenly inaccurate.

disclaimer: I do realize a thread entitled "unpopular opinions" does invite us all to tiptoe on a fine line between unpopular and offensive.  Still, just say you didn't like him and leave it at that.

"WTF is wrong with you people TASTELESS COMMENTS. I'm disgusted. Mocking a 10 year old's horrible painful death." --eshock

by rubin sierra on Sep 22, 2006 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK I'll bite
  1. I didn't think the QOTM winner for August was funnier than the others in contention.
  2. I don't really care for the Billy Beane interviews because the questions aren't probing enough and he doesn't really answer them anyway.
  3. I like Jason Kendall.
  4. Zito should have been traded after his Cy Young year.
  5. I think the motto "In Billy We Trust" is a little creepy.
  6. ANtics is less funny when we're winning; there's so much less to poke fun at.
Hmmm...somewhat cathartic!

by LD on Sep 21, 2006 4:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe we can all think of better Qs
for Billy.  LIke on Slashdot, people nominate questions in advance and vote on them, and the top 5 get asked of the interviewee.

by Apricot on Sep 21, 2006 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll add some more to my list
  1. "QOTM"-- Why isn't it QOTMN? QOTM gets slung around way too freely... or I just don't have a sense of humor.
  2. Totally agree about "In Billy We Trust"
  3. I don't listen to the audio interviews. At all. Just a thing I have. Is it possible to have a phobia of audio interviews? I tried, really. I just physically couldn't do it.
  4. The thread about Loaiza's DUI bothered me more than the DUI.
"...see how the ?ber-nerds debate the PAPER QUALITY of the signs they plan to bring..."

by Jennifer on Sep 21, 2006 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fine. Mine.

  • I really dislike Ken Macha as a manager, yet I think I'd love him in real life. He's funny, and seems like a really good guy.
  • Every time Rich Harden takes the mound, I feel like it's a dream. I think he's that good.
  • I love Mark Teixeira.
  • I feel incredibly sorry for A-rod.
  • I can't stand Chad Gaudin pitching. Give me Saarloos any day.
  • I'm not one bit sorry we traded for Milton Bradley. I love him, and think he was more than worth it.
  • I want our second round to be against the Yankees, because I feel we owe them one.

"Today, everyone did do what I wanted!!"~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 21, 2006 4:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel incredibly sorry for A-rod?
The $264 million dollars man?
Alex Rodriguez could have played anywhere and chose 3b for the Yanks for $27 million per.

Have your maternal instincts overridden your typically flawless logic and observations?

The details:
10 years/$252M (2001-10)$242M in annual salaries
$10M signing bonus (paid $2M/year, 2001-05)
Salaries: 01-04:$21M/year, 05-06:$25M/year, 07-10:$27M/year. May opt out after 2007 unless he gets an $8M/year raise or $1M more than MLB's highest-paid player
no-trade clause
$0.1M All Star incentive
MVP bonus $0.5M for 2003 AL MVP award
$1M for 2005 AL MVP award
4 years/$10.7M (1997-2000)
3 years/$1.3M (1994-96)
agent: Scott Boras
ML service: 11.011


PS
Does Teixeira save his best games for the A's?

by A s Eh on Sep 22, 2006 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All of my political opinions, for sure
I hate paternalism whether it's in its hard or soft forms, or whether it comes from the Left or the Right.  The individual is king...long live the king!

Baseball is a business and should be looked at as such...even before viewing it (the game) as a fan.

There's more, for sure, but isn't that provocative enough for one entry.

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by LowcountryJoe on Sep 21, 2006 4:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I never liked Penn State either
... oh, wait, you didn't say "Paternosim," did you?
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was "Panteraism"
and I really don't like that kind of music either.

by DavidA on Sep 21, 2006 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

however, I do like "Sal'spantsism"
Wait. That really doesn't sound right.
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 21, 2006 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was never a big fan of pater familiasism.
Feminist instincts and whatnot.

by DavidA on Sep 21, 2006 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Penn State
The drinking university with a football problem...

by LoveDemAs on Sep 21, 2006 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mine
My favorite uniforms are the black tops. I also think the home hats with the yellow bill are stupid.

I believe in VORP more than grit. BB is a hell of a GM.

Kotsay is quite overrated, as is Zito.

The Royals are going to be real good within five years. The Marlins too.

 

"Sometimes Joe [Morgan] doesn't like facts to get in the way of his opinions." - Billy Beane

by Roscoe Parrish on Sep 21, 2006 4:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the Kotsay value
is that he's not Payton in center; Kielty in right.
"Today, everyone did do what I wanted!!"~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 21, 2006 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs