DLD 9/13 Twinkie Aftermath

by 510inDenver on Sep 13, 2006 9:23 AM PDT

First of all, MLB seems to have already picked the manager of the year:

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060912&content_id=1658547&vkey=news_mlb &fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

But here's one guarantee: no matter what they do, Leyland is the AL's best manager this season.

Oh Ok, glad that resolved.

Finally, Macha has navigated through the usual plethora of injuries.

Usual?????? Give me a break.

And on Rich Harden: What I mean is that I have no idea where the A's starter/reliever/rehabber goes after today. Does he come back into the bullpen to stretch out his arm? Does he come into the rotation, backed up by another starter due to his pitch limit? ...Your guess is as good as mine here, but I'll be watching closely.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5517

I don't know is aparently news for BBP. Thanks for that wisdom there...not.

BIG FRANK... please say its true.
General Manager Billy Beane is handling negotiations with agent Arn Tellem, and Wolff said he is confident of re-signing Thomas.

Also the A's are 0 for 10:

If the A's and Los Angeles Angels finish tied for the American League West lead, a playoff game would be played Oct. 2 in Anaheim. The A's lost the coin flip Tuesday to determine the site for the game. The A's have not won a flip in the past four years, going 0-10.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/baseball/mlb/oakland_athletics/15506795.htm?source =rss&channel=mercurynews_oakland_athletics

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0-10

Everyone know Beane's sh__ don't work with coin tosses!

by Larry E on Sep 13, 2006 9:33 AM PDT reply actions

Maybe the cointoss

Is the intangible that the A's are lacking.....

"I don't make speeches. I just let my bat speak for me in the summertime." Honus Wagner

by 510inDenver on Sep 13, 2006 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions

Don't worry.

They'll eventually regress to the mean. :)

by DavidA on Sep 13, 2006 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions

lol

"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 13, 2006 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions

<confiscates lol>

http://www.athleticsnation.com/comments/2006/9/12/12630/3163/85#85

A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@

by monkeyball on Sep 13, 2006 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions

<snerk>

I didn't see that yesterday... you posted it during my computer twilight time... ;)

"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 13, 2006 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions

truth be known

Macha choose Side instead of a head or tail.

the home run that Eric Chavez did was tight. Sprots4Kids quote

by Satchmo22 on Sep 13, 2006 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions

lol!

"The guy's Far Eastern. Psychic. He knows what the hitters are looking for, and he relays that to me," Zito said.

by LAXile on Sep 13, 2006 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions

we're cursed. its official. hahahha

by CyZito on Sep 13, 2006 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions

Or crap shoots! (yet...)

by Chilango on Sep 13, 2006 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Huh...

Crap shoots are a crap shoot. Go fig. :)

Rap Cat!

by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Sep 13, 2006 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions

OT: More fun with improv

Kids, don't try this with a neuralizer.

"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 13, 2006 9:38 AM PDT reply actions

LMAO

by Zonis on Sep 13, 2006 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions

There are some truly hilarious

things on that site. Its all I can do to stifle my uproariously laughter at work.

by DavidA on Sep 13, 2006 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions

0-10

Isn't the probability of that 0.1%?

by boilerdan on Sep 13, 2006 9:38 AM PDT reply actions

About that.

1 in 1024...assuming the coins are fair <cue conspiracy music>

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Sep 13, 2006 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions

oaktoon?

Is that you?

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 13, 2006 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes it is.

It's pretty clear that the A's will progress to the mean by winning the next 5 coin flips.

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Sep 13, 2006 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Well... hi

Why are you using Sal's account, and more importantly, why are you in his pants?

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Sep 13, 2006 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Yep

thats a probability of 1/1024, which is .009765%. I shoulda put some money on it in vegas 10 years ago.

"It is like Menudo, where guys reach a certain age and are kicked out of the band. And they go on to be Ricky Martins somewhere else." -Billy Beane

by WhiteElephantGuy on Sep 13, 2006 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions

off by 10

it's percents, so you multiply by 100:
0.09765% is the number

by MobiusKlein on Sep 13, 2006 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions

Probabilities multiply

Chance of losing two coin flips is 1:2 times 1:2, equaling 1 out of 4. Chance of losing three would be 1:2 x 1:2 x 1:2, equaling 1 out of 8 (12.5%). Chance of losing ten flips is (1:2) x 10, or 1 in 1,024.

"I don't want to 'Wear It.' It doesn't match my shoes." --Jennifer

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Sep 13, 2006 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions

Of course

after going 0-9 on the coin flip, your odds of winning the next is still 50%.

Live forever or die trying.

by oaklandpete on Sep 13, 2006 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions

OT

Anyone know where to get a deal on a decent little league bat? My son is playing Winter ball and moving up from farm to the minors in the Spring so I need to ditch the t-ball bat.

I would think there would be a lot of deals this time of year but not really seeing them.

by easyraider on Sep 13, 2006 9:41 AM PDT reply actions

Where are you?

In Berkeley you can probably buy a used one at the Sports 4 Kids store.

Nothing says fun like Premium Meat!

by lurkerD on Sep 13, 2006 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions

We have some little league

bats in our lineup...

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Sep 13, 2006 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions

Hello My fellow Dumpers and Dumpettes

You know how much publicity that Moneyball book got and then afterwards it got a backlash of all these old fogies saying that nerdy machines couldn't win baseball games? Well guess what, its about to get more publicity - Movie Publicity!

http://s171230060.onlinehome.us/NewsDescription-Movies-11654.htm

So who's going to play Chad Bradford? Scotty H? Finally, a movie about a worthwhile baseball team. (Well the Cleveland Indians did okay with Major League I + II but don't get me started on Fever Pitch barf).

"It is like Menudo, where guys reach a certain age and are kicked out of the band. And they go on to be Ricky Martins somewhere else." -Billy Beane

by WhiteElephantGuy on Sep 13, 2006 9:41 AM PDT reply actions

Lineups posted--no Mauer!

Kendall
Ellis
Bradley
Thomas
Chavez
Payton
Swisher
Kielty
Scutaro

Castillo
Punto
Redmond
Cuddyer
Morneau
Hunter
Rabe
Tyner
Bartlett

"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 13, 2006 9:42 AM PDT reply actions

As soon as I read this, I thought

Bill Campbell is a dead ringer for Beane. Apparently the primates at BBTF had the same thought as I did...maybe we both channel surfed past "Enough" when it was on TV a few nights ago.

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Sep 13, 2006 9:46 AM PDT reply actions

Meant as a reply to

Moneyball: The Movie.

By the way, does anybody else think that there's an obvious possibility being missed here? Moneyball: The Musical sounds perfect for Broadway.

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Sep 13, 2006 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions

OOOOOOOOOOOO

aklandhoma where the winds come sweeping 'cross the Bay...

"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 13, 2006 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions

More missed possibilities

Moneyball the action figure.
Moneyball the toilet paper.
Moneyball the flame thrower. (Shaped like Rich Harden).

by Donner on Sep 14, 2006 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions

Quit stealing my thunder.

"It is like Menudo, where guys reach a certain age and are kicked out of the band. And they go on to be Ricky Martins somewhere else." -Billy Beane

by WhiteElephantGuy on Sep 13, 2006 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions

Oh, boohoo.

Your post didn't have no fancy pictures in it.

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Sep 13, 2006 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions

Fancy pitchers?

"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 13, 2006 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions

I still think

It should be Mickey Rourke for Billy Bean

Jack Black for Jeremy Brown?

Hi, I am closetasfan, and I am a NRAF, and an ANA

by closetasfan on Sep 13, 2006 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions

No, Jack Black for Nick Swisher.

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Sep 13, 2006 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions

I think that Sharon should get final approval

for anyone they cast to play Hatteberg.

Kettlecorn! Swishercorn!

by TurnTwo on Sep 13, 2006 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions

Dan Johnson as Scotty H!

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Sep 13, 2006 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Who gets to play Ron Washington?

"VORP? Not a clue what that is. But if it's good, I'll take it!"

-Nick Swisher

by kaweahkaweah on Sep 13, 2006 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions

Sam Jackson.

Something tells me Joe would not be cool with that.

by Jennifer on Sep 13, 2006 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions

I'm sick of these mf'in baserunners

on the mf'in basepaths!

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Sep 13, 2006 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions

rip-off

http://www.athleticsnation.com/comments/2006/9/12/102925/448/140#140

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 13, 2006 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions

And you guys ripped off Oaktowntribesman

http://www.athleticsnation.com/comments/2005/2/15/13391/3542/16#16

"the reason why hitting the ball on the "sweet spot" of the bat feels so good is that the ball is contacting at the bat at a vibrational node." - salb918

by McFood on Sep 13, 2006 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions

that post is nearly two years old

it's in the public domain.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 13, 2006 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions

A's are gonna win this one, Mauer or less

"I don't want to 'Wear It.' It doesn't match my shoes." --Jennifer

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Sep 13, 2006 9:46 AM PDT reply actions

A question

What other non-SB Nation sports blogs do you all visit?

Asked where Zito's perfect fit would be, Hudson said, "Do they have a league on Mars?"

by JLaff on Sep 13, 2006 10:04 AM PDT reply actions

6-4-2, for sure.

firejoemorgan, baseballthinkfactory

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Sep 13, 2006 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions

Bat Girl

she rocks

Nothing says fun like Premium Meat!

by lurkerD on Sep 13, 2006 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions

Uh...

An article about El Nino includes this snippet:

This El Nino has caused drier-than-average conditions across Indonesia, Malaysia and most of the Philippines.

Indonesia is the most populous Moslem country with over 200 million people, while the Philippines have nearly 90 million. Both are major importers of U.S. grains.

The CPC Web site said surface temperatures were substantially warmer than normal by early September in the Pacific.

Apart from the middle paragraph being a total non-sequitir, I thought we all agreed that Moslem isn't he preferred terminology...

Stat Wonk Futurist

by salb918 on Sep 13, 2006 11:12 AM PDT reply actions

I guess ConAgra's weather machine works.

"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 13, 2006 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions

dunno

No one asked the Kathlix.

"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 13, 2006 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions

Face-lick girl is a Kathy?

"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 13, 2006 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Like greenn'goldgirl?

"the reason why hitting the ball on the "sweet spot" of the bat feels so good is that the ball is contacting at the bat at a vibrational node." - salb918

by McFood on Sep 13, 2006 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions

NO WONDER her parents don't trust

the Internet People!

"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 13, 2006 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions

what i don't get is

how come it doesn't give the population of malaysia?
is it because malaysia (just guessing here) isn't a major importer of US grains?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 13, 2006 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions

Maybe because the population

of Malaysia is relatively small--about 20 million.

On Sunday, Minaya ticked off a list of candidates to join the rotation, and for once this season, none of them was Jose Lima.

by rfloh on Sep 13, 2006 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions

asian-american, please.

even though these are not the guys who built the f'ing railroads...

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Sep 13, 2006 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions

Hey!

That was a valued rug! It really tied the room together!

by RickeySteals on Sep 13, 2006 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions

El Nino is spanish for

"The Nino"

by Philip Christy on Sep 13, 2006 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions

The El Nino is over The Los Angeles Angels

"the reason why hitting the ball on the "sweet spot" of the bat feels so good is that the ball is contacting at the bat at a vibrational node." - salb918

by McFood on Sep 13, 2006 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions

That's not "Die, Bart, Die"

It's German for "the Bart, the."

"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 13, 2006 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Time to pinch-run for Frank

Let's get the run, eh?

by Philip Christy on Sep 13, 2006 12:12 PM PDT reply actions

Doh!

Wrong thread.

by Philip Christy on Sep 13, 2006 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Mike Rouse: Cleveland Indian

The long-suffering Mike Rouse is an Oakland A no more, claimed off waivers by Cleveland today.

by wedge on Sep 13, 2006 1:42 PM PDT reply actions

Awww.

I wish that kid all the luck in the world, hopefully he'll get a shot with 'em.

"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."

by Kyli on Sep 13, 2006 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions

Since many expressed concern at the time

here's some follow up on beaned Mariner reliever, Rafael Soriano, who's being shutdown this year.

From Yahoo:

"Soriano still has minor headaches and is unable to perform physical activity. The right-hander will be monitored the remainder of the season by the Mariners' medical staff."

Visiting M's fan

by jtopps on Sep 13, 2006 3:54 PM PDT reply actions

Glad they're shutting him down.

There's no reason to mess with a head injury. Hope the offseason heals him.

"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 13, 2006 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Thanks for the update 'topps

My question, and not that there are warning signs for that kind of injury... but why in the name of all things Mariners was he even pitching? He's one of the top relievers in the AL, he has had some shoulder problems... My point is that he should have been shut down before this happened to get him healthy for next year.

"When the A's suck, the terrorists win" ~ Poppy

by eamb on Sep 13, 2006 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions

don't know if you are still reading this

but that's a very good question. Let me add it to the pantheon of inexplicable Mariner decisions.

There was talk of shutting him down before he even took the ball to the head. My guess is that they felt a little thin in the bullpen (Mark Lowe went on the DL, Julio Mateo broke his hand), they were hoping to keep him around.

Maybe they thought it would help his confidence to get back on the mound and face live batters again, to know he could.

It's weirdly fortunate and unfortunate that he got shut down. Unfortunate that it had to happen that way, but fortunate that it happened all the same...

Visiting M's fan

by jtopps on Sep 14, 2006 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions