Givin' It All Away
I'm not a Ken Macha hater. I've said repeatedly that managing a baseball team is a thankless job because you go unnoticed when a team does well and you get all the blame when the team sputters.
But I blame this loss squarely on Ken Macha because there is no way that Joe Kennedy should've faced Cuddyer in the eighth inning. Justin Duchscherer HAD to be the pitcher there. Who cares if you burn all of your pitchers out tonight? The A's needed this game since they are facing Liriano tomorrow.
Yes, I know the players have to perform and Kennedy has done well all season long in shutting down the opposition. But Duchscherer should be your eighth inning man in this situation. He HAS to be. I wanted the A's to take at least one out of Minnesota and this was the one they needed to get.
I know I shouldn't write when mad, but I'm pretty ticked off right now. I don't care if Cuddyer is 1-2 against Duchscherer because Morneau is 0-2.
Any way, I really hate those two players. Morneau is like freaking Mola Ram from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom...while we stand back and watch the horror. Cuddyer is the same thing. Up until this year, those two hadn't been much to the rest of the league, but they've both pretty consistently destroyed ripped the arms and legs off our lovable muppets. Good God, there goes Cookie Monster's googly eyes and Elmo's plump orange nose in a river of stuffing and string.
So the A's could've reduced that sweet magic number tonight, and instead they have to hope the White Sox can do it for them. It's unfortunate that they could've really turned things around a bit tonight and it's opportunity lost.
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I blame this loss on the woofers
By the way
Actually, he appears to be coming back to life a bit which could be ginormous for the A's down the stretch.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Sep 12, 2006 8:13 PM PDT reply actions
Not to mention the 2 DP's he started...
by OaktownPower on Sep 12, 2006 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm
by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Macha sure didn't help wit hthe loss tonight
I really hope we are still in first place by the time we face the Angels.
This team needs to suck it up and get this train back on track or it's over.
by Vegas A's Fan on Sep 12, 2006 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather he beat him senseless with a chair
I don't normally blame Macha, but with the way
The other thing that bugs me . . .
But it won't happen. Not Macha's style. He'd rather just sit around and "let the cards fall where they may."
Hate to say it, but this has "0-9" mojo all over it! Body language - horrible. Attitude - horrible. Just hope Bradley and/or Kotsay or Thomas can jump somebody and fire the team up. Heaven knows Macha/Chavez/et al. won't.
One pitching change, and this game is 5-3
by theblackpearl on Sep 12, 2006 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup
Duke is one of the top 10 relievers in the AL and he was glued to the bench in one of the biggest innings of the season. I like Macha, but blood is on his hands for this one.
2006 Oakland Athletics
- This is a different ballclub
- Our Club isn't worried about the Angels
- Ronnie Mac will probably show up to work tomorrow in a Ronald MacDonald outfit, and everything will be OK.
Angels: 11 Games over .500 (17 to Play)
Positive Thoughts...Positive Thoughts...Positive Thoughts
by Colorado Fan on Sep 12, 2006 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I've obviously taken
PATHETIC
I want to kill him right now. Just kill. Dead.
What the FUCK.
Thanks Emperor...
If there is anything that I have learned about baseball in the 26 years since my folks first took me to the Coliseum when I was six weeks old it is that in order to win consistently - and especially in September and October - you have to have guys who know what their roles are, count on that, and then come in and perform those roles perfectly. JUSTIN DUCHSCHERER IS OUR EIGHTH INNING SET-UP MAN! When the hell did that change? I don't care about matchups, really, or how well a guy has hit in his career against certain pitchers. When we were flying through June, July and August, a lot of it was attributed to this simple formula: good starting pitching through seven innings, Duke or Kiko in the eighth, Street closes it out in the ninth. You could count on it. So why, with a division title all but ours for the taking, would we monkey with that? Why? Why? Why? Why was Duke not in the game in the eighth? Why? I'd rant some more, but I have to go and convince the woman in my house that I am more than the pieces of plastic and battery littering our living room...
by willcmatthews on Sep 12, 2006 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks Blez...
Chavez DID have a good night, and to be honest, so did Saarloos.
But OH. MY. GOSH. the decision to let Kennedy stay in long enough to get rocked, AND lose the lead is enough to make me want to throw up.
yup
Man... I'm willing to use your positive outlook
If it doesn't work..... we will have issues.
by Vegas A's Fan on Sep 12, 2006 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
We have certainly missed
I iwsh we had Andruw Jones or a different centerfielder.
We miss kotsay in all areas.
by Vegas A's Fan on Sep 12, 2006 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Ditto your sentiments, Blez:
- Flores probably should have been put in to face Morneau in the 6th, but it didn't matter because Calero got a DP on the next hitter.
- Calero should have stayed in to face Rondell White, but it didn't matter because surprisingly Kennedy got him out.
- Duke should either have started the 8th, or at the very least come in to face Cuddyer. That one cost us an entire hardfought game that we actually had a great chance to win.
However, remember this: It is possible for the A's to get swept in this series and still to win the division. In fact, I expect both may well happen. And let's just try to get to the playoffs and then worry about how good we are. There are no great teams this year; none.
And while I do expect the A's will very likely lose tomorrow, let's not deify Francisco Liriano. Whether he's rusty or sharp as ever, the Twins will need at least 2-3 innings from their middle to long relievers. And if the A's could just win one in this series, I'd feel the same way I felt before the series started: nothing less than thrilled.
All I wanted was 1 of 3..... let's make a
by Vegas A's Fan on Sep 12, 2006 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Just keep remembering
The A's are gonna have to try hard to lose this. Angels have to win it.
by The Hypocrite on Sep 12, 2006 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Well we know Macha is trying hard to lose
I circled this a sweep
Something has to be wrong with Huston
Yeah we realize that
Was it announced...
by willcmatthews on Sep 12, 2006 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Speculation
That makes sense...
by willcmatthews on Sep 12, 2006 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
agree on all accounts
The beauty is that the game is nice
by Tyler Bleszinski on Sep 12, 2006 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the first time this second half
by Flyin As on Sep 12, 2006 8:20 PM PDT reply actions
Street Unavailable?
A. Street wasn't available
B. Macha wanted two saves... one Street, one Duke
C. Macha froze at the controls
Given the A's tendency to B.S. on health issues, I'll go with A. If Street is day to day and Larry Davis thought that he might be available tomorrow, that would fit both A and B.
Great post.
Our turn for a gut punch L
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Sep 12, 2006 8:20 PM PDT reply actions
ChiSox just scored...
PaleHose 1
No outs, top of fifth. Crede on 2nd, Mackiowak on 1st, Uribe up.
Wait...Uribe just sac bunted.
In the middle of this inning was a heroic 13 pitch at bat by Crede (he eventually singled).
by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 12, 2006 8:21 PM PDT reply actions
They walked Podsednik...
by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 12, 2006 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
soon to fire up buddhist podcast
It's too late in the year
by jarforcefatherofforce on Sep 12, 2006 8:21 PM PDT reply actions
their slump was in August
and we will pull it together soon too
Harden tests changeup for first time in rehab
Rich Harden's simulated game was routine, as far as these things go, but he felt fine and came out healthy, which was the main thing the A's were looking for....
If all goes perfectly, that could mean a start on the next homestand -- and perhaps two starts against the Angels in the final weeks of the season.
by slobberknocker on Sep 12, 2006 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry Poppy, et al...
Kills. Me.
He is not as bad as he is portrayed tonight, but I've seen quite a few times, even this season, where he lets a pitcher go too long, and puts in a better one for mop up work.
Wasted appearance by Duke, IMO. Game was already lost.
Nawww....
by BleacherDave on Sep 12, 2006 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, the basic frustration-anger-ranting...
CWS LEADS 3-2!
by Flyin As on Sep 12, 2006 8:23 PM PDT reply actions
Blez...
Sorry all..go back to ranting against Macha. :-)
I really try to step back
by Tyler Bleszinski on Sep 12, 2006 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just thinking the same, Blez.
by willcmatthews on Sep 12, 2006 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Iguchi hit a first-pitch single
LA (or whatever) 2
by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 12, 2006 8:24 PM PDT reply actions
Question unrelated
Oh yeah, Macha blew it.
The streak is still alive....
by OaktownPower on Sep 12, 2006 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
right, thats the ruling
No, have to have an official AB
by OaktownPower on Sep 12, 2006 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I understand
Well, he didn't make a plate appearance...
I like continuing the streak. If he gets walked every time, he really didn't have a chance to try for a hit.
by Flyin As on Sep 12, 2006 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
That would be unfortunate
It wouldn't surprise me if someone did though
what a gruesome spectacle
Why, when every game is critical right now, was that scenario allowed to happen? I was absolutely stunned when he was allowed to start the eighth and pissed as hell that he was left out there to implode.
This, after last night running out the disgraceful combo of Sauerbeck/Witasick to take them completely out of the game. Terrible bullpen decisions in this series.
You wouldnt have put the **
by OaktownPower on Sep 12, 2006 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yes I did.
All 1000,0000,00000000 of them.
by baseballgirl on Sep 12, 2006 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha...impressive.
by OaktownPower on Sep 12, 2006 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It all doesn't matter
by Salvatore on Sep 12, 2006 8:25 PM PDT reply actions
A few of the cities that I heard are targets...
by Salvatore on Sep 12, 2006 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone knocking on your door, yet?
by Colorado Fan on Sep 12, 2006 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
My word dude..
by OaktownPower on Sep 12, 2006 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, thank god
idiots
I don't know
But everyone's right, our pitching is sucking donkey dicks at just the most exquisitely worst time. It's on the players but as the manager you just don't give away a game we were about to win at the most crucial time in the season.
As I write this the Pale Hose are helping us out, having taken a lead on the Halos with Dye and Thome due up. Let us pray they score 43 runs in this inning.
I should also give proper respects to the Twins, who have a marvelous young & hungry team, a team I would rather eat wood than face in a short series.
The Twins are coming hard..
by OaktownPower on Sep 12, 2006 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Three points . . .
- Kennedy looks like a way better pitcher when he faces 1 or 2 hitters versus four or more. Doesn't this show he's a true Loogy even though sometimes he gets righties out?
- The entire pitching staff has made horrible pitches on 0 - 2 counts for more than a week now. Seriously, do they think you have to get a batter out in 3 pitches? Tonight's prime example was Cruddyer's double on an 0 - 2 pitch.
- Kendall needs to rest. He is not blocking balls in the dirt nearly as good as he used to. Kennedy and Duke both had wild pitches that should have been properly blocked but because Kendall has played 188 ggames in a row, he is tired and he didn't get down far enough to block, thus costing at least a run.
New proposed tactic . . .
Great news about ChiSox, too.
For whatever reason
We have seen this innumerable times over the years we watch the A's, Macha has never realized this, and doubt he ever will. But like most of you I thought this had sweep written all over it anyway, but god, a win would have almost assured the pennant.
by china bob on Sep 12, 2006 8:31 PM PDT reply actions
If...
But I am serious.....
Seriously though Poppy, it is a reflection of the ultimate frustration with his bonehead non-moves tonight.
Off topic,
by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 8:36 PM PDT reply actions
Good point . . .
by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I've heard this before
I'd like that . . .
by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Mulder...hmmm
I am not sure I wan to see another member of this team spend half of the season on the DL. Maybe Mulder should be a pass, even though I used to love to watch him pitch.
by robsf on Sep 12, 2006 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Blaming the manager is one thing...
"if we lose the division
i think one of us needs to take macha out back and put a bullet in his head for every game we lost in september."
"FIRE MACHA NOW" -- "shoot him now"
"you're an idiot
everyone could see where that was headed once cuddyer came up"
"Dear jesus in heaven....
please strike ken macha dead tonight, thanks"
"Nathan coming up
I hope somebody hits a foul ball so so so hard, hits macha so so so hard that he cannot coach for the rest of the season."
"SOMEONE PLEASE, KILL MACHA, WE NEED A HERO, IT'S A SACRIFICE WE'LL HONOR FOREVER."
"Payton looks like he wants to kill Macha" -- "I kind of hope he does"
"i'd love to see beane suspend macha" -- "I'd rather he beat him senseless with a chair"
"I want to kill him right now. Just kill. Dead."
:-|
Unbelievable.
Sweet!
I don't want him dead, just doing something other than managing the team I love.
by baseballgirl on Sep 12, 2006 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously though...
by baseballgirl on Sep 12, 2006 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Come on, Poppy.
thought you had turned in by now.
does the bridge of your nose
Well you haven't heard mine yet
So There
by theblackpearl on Sep 12, 2006 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Sigh. Her main point
Don't hold people responsible
Yeah
It doesn't warrant those kinds of attacks.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Sep 12, 2006 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Well....
It comes with the territory of passionate baseball fans. We live and die with this team, and can't stand it when the wrong decisions are made, ESPECIALLY in big games.
by baseballgirl on Sep 12, 2006 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of which:
Shameful list
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Sep 12, 2006 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
i'll listen to baun show for a while
Well if its anything like this board....
Let me save AKA some time:
- KEEN MACHO IS A TERD. kILL HEM. hEEZ THROWEN da DEVESION AWAY. WE KNEED tOONEY lARUZA!
- one of us needs to take macha out back and put a bullet in his head for every game we lost in september
- FIRE MACHA NOW!
no mention of emails yet but
Yeah
by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
um...wow.
Please, don't kill me.
Just me...
Today wasn't the A's day.
Let's Go A's!
The odds of that happening
(Applauds)
Let's
by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
How about walking Morneau with the tying run
by saint @ Athletics Nation on Sep 12, 2006 8:55 PM PDT reply actions
Valid point
Certainly:
- Duke is your 8th inning guy
- Duke was not even warming up when the inning began
- Duke HAS to face Cuddyer
- Morneau SHOULD been walked
I nearly cried, litterally, when he was resigned.
by saint @ Athletics Nation on Sep 12, 2006 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah hell
by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 9:06 PM PDT reply actions
Silver lining?
Any word on Huston?
by sienna on Sep 12, 2006 9:14 PM PDT reply actions
"Man I can't wait to see the...
jeebus, glad I ain't pitchin here tomorrow
All I said was abracadabra, and now I'm sitting
by theblackpearl on Sep 12, 2006 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed
by Hit4TheCycle on Sep 12, 2006 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
All by myself...
let me see
by smasfan on Sep 12, 2006 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm
Crap
by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 12, 2006 9:29 PM PDT reply actions
That's the A's September in a nutshell.
by OaktownRajah on Sep 12, 2006 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
ChiSox can't win. Uribe has an askew cap
by calvin @ Athletics Nation on Sep 12, 2006 9:39 PM PDT reply actions
I have to vent...if that's ok..
I must give him props for his effort at a Rickey Run with the walk and advance on sac...
I'm pissed at Ellis and his lackadasical tag. It's not the first time he's done that this year and it bothers the hell out of me
I thought Calero should have pitched into the 7th, but it worked out...and when Duke didn't come out for the 8th, I was curious, but it peaked when 2 on and no outs and Killer Cuddyer came up. I was just curious, why isn't Duke coming out...he could do the 2 inning save thing if necessary. oh well...
It was a good game, but the biggest thing to me was the amount of outs we gave them with Payton and Ellis.
It's also amazing to see what 2 out hitting with runners in scoring position can do for your squad.
So it's very easy and almost obvious to scapegoat Macha (again), but it's games like this when you leave bases loaded with 1 out and runners on 3rd with 2 outs that just kill you.
Macha isn't a genius in the dugout but our clutch hitting, or lack thereof, is what's really hurting us.
Still not worried. I hope the Sox pull it out, but don't really care. It's ours for the taking.
PERIOD
by Erik being Erik on Sep 12, 2006 9:41 PM PDT reply actions
I
by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 9:45 PM PDT reply actions
i put walk..
by Erik being Erik on Sep 12, 2006 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
JayPay's bunt single
I figured...
I thought that inning with his speed and Marco's clutch hit put it away... silly me
by Erik being Erik on Sep 12, 2006 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
by bluelightrain84 on Sep 13, 2006 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Wooot ! chisox out of the 10th
by calvin @ Athletics Nation on Sep 12, 2006 9:51 PM PDT reply actions
thome will homer...
by calvin @ Athletics Nation on Sep 12, 2006 9:54 PM PDT reply actions
Missed opportunities
- pick a guy off with two outs and miss the tag, two runs end up scoring. Isn't that like the third time we've had a guy picked and blew it?
- bases jammed, one out, get nothing for the millionth time this year (made all the more frustrating by watching teams like Minn continually score 2+ runs there, not just the 1 you have to get at minimum)
by peanut gallery on Sep 12, 2006 10:05 PM PDT reply actions
<sigh>
by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 10:12 PM PDT reply actions
eek
by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeebus
Shit
by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 12, 2006 10:12 PM PDT reply actions
fuck it
by emperor nobody on Sep 12, 2006 10:14 PM PDT reply actions
Glass 97.26% Full!
We are in a bonafide RACE now!
GOOD! We can renew momentum for October! We need teeth, gnashing gnarly teeth. What better way than to drop a game or two and face a fight on your hands! I don't want a "walk-in" A's team without Harden, I want a late season battle tested "Harden-ized" team, or no team at all!
The pendulum has only swung a little. May the best team find the Yanks in the AL pennant.
by baseballbill on Sep 12, 2006 10:18 PM PDT reply actions
that will be the A's
by Erik being Erik on Sep 12, 2006 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Curse of Dan Johnson?
by compy75 on Sep 12, 2006 10:28 PM PDT reply actions
i am curious about that too
He's a witch! Burn 'im! Burn 'im!
hey folks...
Also, not to be too much of a prude but we could do with way less potty mouth imo (and at the Coliseum as well).
by Bearcat on Sep 12, 2006 10:32 PM PDT reply actions
okay, and g'night
I know most people are sleeping fitfully,
To me thats the big issue and it has been for a
Too many 0-2 hits because our pitchers are throwing too many bad pitches on 0-2.
Can Kendall be blamed?
by Vegas A's Fan on Sep 13, 2006 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't think so
i dont know much abput baseball
by smasfan on Sep 13, 2006 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Is this diary's title from altered Genesis lyrics?
the Genesis lyrics that seem to apply
"...hovering like a fly, waiting for the windshield on the freeway..."
or maybe in reference to Macha's failure to go to Duke to start the 8th:
"Well, you're looking tired and ill
with your consent we can experiment further still..."
I really hope our little hogweeds can salvage one game in the dome of death.
by emperor nobody on Sep 13, 2006 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
bad decision by Macha
Mola ram sudha ram!
You're betrayed Shiva!
Positives for Wednesday
- If the A's can get a win today, this will be a 3-3 road trip. Lately, after the A's drop the first two in a series, they usually come back to win the third game. The last example would be last week against Texas.
- I like the White Sox's chances today with Freddy Garcia against Saunders.
- Even if the A's lose, and the Angels win putting the A's at 3 1/2 up, look to Thursday with the Angels in Texas for FOUR games! Magic numbers will go down and I am putting the A's up by 5 games in the West by end of Sunday.
Good point
by bluelightrain84 on Sep 13, 2006 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Ooops
by bluelightrain84 on Sep 13, 2006 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Garcia vs. Saunders
I think they'll win tonight
Boy
by bluelightrain84 on Sep 13, 2006 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
FRANK WAS SAYING SOMETHING
by smasfan on Sep 13, 2006 10:25 AM PDT reply actions
announcers saying that pitcher
by smasfan on Sep 13, 2006 10:26 AM PDT reply actions

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