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Givin' It All Away

I'm not a Ken Macha hater.  I've said repeatedly that managing a baseball team is a thankless job because you go unnoticed when a team does well and you get all the blame when the team sputters.

But I blame this loss squarely on Ken Macha because there is no way that Joe Kennedy should've faced Cuddyer in the eighth inning.  Justin Duchscherer HAD to be the pitcher there.  Who cares if you burn all of your pitchers out tonight?  The A's needed this game since they are facing Liriano tomorrow.

Yes, I know the players have to perform and Kennedy has done well all season long in shutting down the opposition.  But Duchscherer should be your eighth inning man in this situation.  He HAS to be.  I wanted the A's to take at least one out of Minnesota and this was the one they needed to get.

I know I shouldn't write when mad, but I'm pretty ticked off right now.  I don't care if Cuddyer is 1-2 against Duchscherer because Morneau is 0-2.

Any way, I really hate those two players.  Morneau is like freaking Mola Ram from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom...while we stand back and watch the horror.  Cuddyer is the same thing.  Up until this year, those two hadn't been much to the rest of the league, but they've both pretty consistently destroyed ripped the arms and legs off our lovable muppets.  Good God, there goes Cookie Monster's googly eyes and Elmo's plump orange nose in a river of stuffing and string.

So the A's could've reduced that sweet magic number tonight, and instead they have to hope the White Sox can do it for them.  It's unfortunate that they could've really turned things around a bit tonight and it's opportunity lost.

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I blame this loss on the woofers
...and the tweeters, too.
"You can throw your cocks if I don't care!" - Iggy Pop

by AlamedaAphid on Sep 12, 2006 8:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

By the way
Chavez had an excellent night tonight.  He's had many other subpars nights at the plate this year when he might've deserved ridicule.  Tonight wasn't one of them.

Actually, he appears to be coming back to life a bit which could be ginormous for the A's down the stretch.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Sep 12, 2006 8:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention the 2 DP's he started...
Both those balls were ROPED.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Sep 12, 2006 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm
getting a little frustrated with Scutaro. Granted, he did have a key hit tonight but still . . . what is he so far in this series, like 1 for 8?
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

85669797!
Runs given up in the last 8 games.

by Larry E on Sep 12, 2006 8:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Macha sure didn't help wit hthe loss tonight
but our pitching is AWFUL and it appears that it won't be getting any better any time soon.

I really hope we are still in first place by the time we face the Angels.

This team needs to suck it up and get this train back on track or it's over.

"I hate the Angels"

by Vegas A's Fan on Sep 12, 2006 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather he beat him senseless with a chair
Goliath, dissatisfied with his size advantage, decided to buy David's sling, which took steroids.

by TexasAsfan on Sep 12, 2006 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't normally blame Macha, but with the way
Kennedy was throwing, if you wanted a lefty you could have gone to Flores.  If Street wasn't available, I wouldn't have been as pissed, that would signify a decision.

by theblackpearl on Sep 12, 2006 8:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The other thing that bugs me . . .
this is an IDEAL time for a team meeting -- one of those, "We have to get our heads out and start doing our jobs NOW" meetings.
But it won't happen.  Not Macha's style.  He'd rather just sit around and "let the cards fall where they may."
Hate to say it, but this has "0-9" mojo all over it!  Body language - horrible.  Attitude - horrible. Just hope Bradley and/or Kotsay or Thomas can jump somebody and fire the team up. Heaven knows Macha/Chavez/et al. won't.
VacaAsFan

by Vacafan on Sep 12, 2006 8:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

One pitching change, and this game is 5-3
Saarloos pitched well, exactly what you need from the 5th, and once a week starter.

by theblackpearl on Sep 12, 2006 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup
This is the type game that starts massive tailspins.  

Duke is one of the top 10 relievers in the AL and he was glued to the bench in one of the biggest innings of the season.  I like Macha, but blood is on his hands for this one.

by DKNJ on Sep 12, 2006 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2006 Oakland Athletics
  • This is a different ballclub  
  • Our Club isn't worried about the Angels
  • Ronnie Mac will probably show up to work tomorrow in a Ronald MacDonald outfit, and everything will be OK.
A's:  20 Games over .500 (18 to Play)

Angels:  11 Games over .500 (17 to Play)

Positive Thoughts...Positive Thoughts...Positive Thoughts

COME ON, OAKLAND, COME ON!

by Colorado Fan on Sep 12, 2006 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've obviously taken
too much medication today. I'm more worried about the whereabouts of Huston than the loss.
Something tells me Joe would not be cool with that.

by Jennifer on Sep 12, 2006 8:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

PATHETIC
R.I.P. my remote control, currently in 30 pieces all over the living room.

I want to kill him right now.  Just kill.  Dead.

What the FUCK.

1972...1973...1974...1989...2006

by emperor nobody on Sep 12, 2006 8:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Emperor...
For making me realize that I am not the only idiot who destroyed a remote control tonight, though I'm not sure my girlfriend will stick around long enough for many more similar tirades on my part. So the A's had better get back to it, and quick. Either that or I need to learn the beauty of letting out steam by taking really long walks...
If there is anything that I have learned about baseball in the 26 years since my folks first took me to the Coliseum when I was six weeks old it is that in order to win consistently - and especially in September and October - you have to have guys who know what their roles are, count on that, and then come in and perform those roles perfectly. JUSTIN DUCHSCHERER IS OUR EIGHTH INNING SET-UP MAN! When the hell did that change? I don't care about matchups, really, or how well a guy has hit in his career against certain pitchers. When we were flying through June, July and August, a lot of it was attributed to this simple formula: good starting pitching through seven innings, Duke or Kiko in the eighth, Street closes it out in the ninth. You could count on it. So why, with a division title all but ours for the taking, would we monkey with that? Why? Why? Why? Why was Duke not in the game in the eighth? Why? I'd rant some more, but I have to go and convince the woman in my house that I am more than the pieces of plastic and battery littering our living room...

by willcmatthews on Sep 12, 2006 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Blez...
I agree. Shades of 2004 for me in tonight's game, and I hate that feeling. I don't think Kennedy's a bad pitcher at all, but he was set up to fail in that situation, IMO. We needed to nail down that ONE win, pull out all the stops, and let tomorrow take care of itself.

Chavez DID have a good night, and to be honest, so did Saarloos.

But OH. MY. GOSH. the decision to let Kennedy stay in long enough to get rocked, AND lose the lead is enough to make me want to throw up.

"Why won't everyone do what I want???" ~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 12, 2006 8:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yup
if we are gonna hang on to this thing we need to win the games we can win. tonite was a game we could have won. sarloos pitched like a champ. chavez carried the offense. but macha trumped that all with some of the worst managing ive ever seen.

by Rx31 on Sep 12, 2006 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joe Crede
13 pitch at bat for a single.

by sprtsnwyn on Sep 12, 2006 8:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Man... I'm willing to use your positive outlook
for a White Sox victory.

If it doesn't work..... we will have issues.

"I hate the Angels"

by Vegas A's Fan on Sep 12, 2006 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have certainly missed
Kotsay's glove.  It is aggravating to have such a talented fielder always deserting us at the end of seasons when we need him.

I iwsh we had Andruw Jones or a different centerfielder.

by IM4Oakgal on Sep 12, 2006 8:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ditto your sentiments, Blez:
As you know, I'm not a Macha-basher, I just look at it game by game and say what I think. Tonight, I think the manager blew it. Obviously, Kennedy blew it too, but tonight I thought Macha made so many mistakes that he actually got away with a couple and still messed it up.
  • Flores probably should have been put in to face Morneau in the 6th, but it didn't matter because Calero got a DP on the next hitter.
  • Calero should have stayed in to face Rondell White, but it didn't matter because surprisingly Kennedy got him out.
  • Duke should either have started the 8th, or at the very least come in to face Cuddyer. That one cost us an entire hardfought game that we actually had a great chance to win.
Basically, unless Calero said "my shoulder hurts" and Street was unavailable, Macha blew it--and even if both were the case personally I still think he blew it.

However, remember this: It is possible for the A's to get swept in this series and still to win the division. In fact, I expect both may well happen. And let's just try to get to the playoffs and then worry about how good we are. There are no great teams this year; none.

And while I do expect the A's will very likely lose tomorrow, let's not deify Francisco Liriano. Whether he's rusty or sharp as ever, the Twins will need at least 2-3 innings from their middle to long relievers. And if the A's could just win one in this series, I'd feel the same way I felt before the series started: nothing less than thrilled.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 12, 2006 8:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

All I wanted was 1 of 3..... let's make a
statement tommorow.
"I hate the Angels"

by Vegas A's Fan on Sep 12, 2006 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just keep remembering
The Angels have to win and win and win and win.

The A's are gonna have to try hard to lose this.  Angels have to win it.

by The Hypocrite on Sep 12, 2006 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well we know Macha is trying hard to lose
Goliath, dissatisfied with his size advantage, decided to buy David's sling, which took steroids.

by TexasAsfan on Sep 12, 2006 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I circled this a sweep
right after we got swept in April.  Such bad games then, and right now is going about how I figured, although a little more horrific.  All I know is that we have split with Angels so far this year.  Why can't we win at least 3 against them out of our 7 games?  I think we can.

by sprtsnwyn on Sep 12, 2006 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good post Nico.
and we may not win this division by much but I bet we win it.

by IM4Oakgal on Sep 12, 2006 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Something has to be wrong with Huston
Enough where he wasn't going to be available tonight or tomorrow.
Something tells me Joe would not be cool with that.

by Jennifer on Sep 12, 2006 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably the groin still.
Something tells me Joe would not be cool with that.

by Jennifer on Sep 12, 2006 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was just me speculating, btw.
Something tells me Joe would not be cool with that.

by Jennifer on Sep 12, 2006 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah we realize that
because Street is probably really dead :)
Goliath, dissatisfied with his size advantage, decided to buy David's sling, which took steroids.

by TexasAsfan on Sep 12, 2006 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was it announced...
...before the game that Street was unavailable, or is this just speculation because he wasn't brought in in the eighth?

by willcmatthews on Sep 12, 2006 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speculation
Had Street been available, we were all assuming Duke would've pitched the 8th, not JoeKen, followed by Street in the 9th.
Something tells me Joe would not be cool with that.

by Jennifer on Sep 12, 2006 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That makes sense...
...and kind of nullifies my earlier tirade. If Street wasn't available, then Kennedy kind of does become the default set-up man if Duke then is the guy in the ninth. I'm not sure what I think anymore...

by willcmatthews on Sep 12, 2006 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree on all accounts
a terrible loss, but tommorrow is another day.  
"...we don't score six, seven runs. We score three, four runs and play defense and pitch." - Eric Chavez

by pickinmachine on Sep 12, 2006 8:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The beauty is that the game is nice
and early too.  So no stewing over this one for a night and day.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Sep 12, 2006 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the first time this second half
that I can't wait for Harden to start again.

by Flyin As on Sep 12, 2006 8:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Street Unavailable?
I can see three explanations for tonight's managing.  

A.  Street wasn't available
B.  Macha wanted two saves... one Street, one Duke
C.  Macha froze at the controls

Given the A's tendency to B.S. on health issues, I'll go with A.  If Street is day to day and Larry Davis thought that he might be available tomorrow, that would fit both A and B.

by muscatel on Sep 12, 2006 8:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Great post.
This isn't May when you can kind of feel a guy out if he can get the job done. This is September and playoff baseball. It's do or die time. You don't leave Kennedy in there to fail. Tonight, I am offically on the "Fire Macha" bandwagon. Very disappointed.
Fire Macha Now!

by Coach Cleats on Sep 12, 2006 8:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Our turn for a gut punch L
We haven't taken one of these in a while.  My money says the A's bounce back well, and soon.  This year's team just seems like they'll remain steady in the saddle.
"I don't want to 'Wear It.' It doesn't match my shoes." --Jennifer

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Sep 12, 2006 8:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ChiSox just scored...
It's LAAA 2
     PaleHose 1

No outs, top of fifth.  Crede on 2nd, Mackiowak on 1st, Uribe up.

Wait...Uribe just sac bunted.

In the middle of this inning was a heroic 13 pitch at bat by Crede (he eventually singled).

"It took eight hours...seven-and-a-half to find the heart." -- Steve McCatty on Charlie Finley's heart surgery.

by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 12, 2006 8:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They walked Podsednik...
...so it's Igutchi up. Bases juiced. One out.
"It took eight hours...seven-and-a-half to find the heart." -- Steve McCatty on Charlie Finley's heart surgery.

by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 12, 2006 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

soon to fire up buddhist podcast
where the introduction is ..."where suffering is, optional"
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...and in 2006 don't make me sick.

by ak_A on Sep 12, 2006 8:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's too late in the year
This is the time of the year that good teams rise to the top.  The pitching which has been a rock for the A's all year, has disappeared.  You do not win many game when you give up seven runs.  Frank Thomas suggested that pitchers can go into slumps too.  That is not acceptable in September.  Even if the A's back into the playoffs because the Angels don't do well the A's are headed for another first round loss.  Are we really the 'Chokeland A's'?  
Jim

by jarforcefatherofforce on Sep 12, 2006 8:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The CWS slumped late last year
and I think they did allright in the playoffs last year.

by IM4Oakgal on Sep 12, 2006 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES!!!
"I hate the Angels"

by Vegas A's Fan on Sep 12, 2006 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

their slump was in August
they pulled themselves together and finished strong in September, then took that through the playoffs

by OaklandSi on Sep 12, 2006 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and we will pull it together soon too
Maybe Harden will come soon  and give us a little boost. The offense is doing fine...we need the pitching to pull it together.

by IM4Oakgal on Sep 12, 2006 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harden tests changeup for first time in rehab
A'S REPORT

Rich Harden's simulated game was routine, as far as these things go, but he felt fine and came out healthy, which was the main thing the A's were looking for....

If all goes perfectly, that could mean a start on the next homestand -- and perhaps two starts against the Angels in the final weeks of the season.

by slobberknocker on Sep 12, 2006 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry Poppy, et al...
...in the game thread. It's like I was watching the eighth inning of game 161 in 2004 all over again tonight, with me screaming at the top of my lungs to remove the pitcher...and Macha doesn't do it--UNTIL the lead is gone.

Kills. Me.

He is not as bad as he is portrayed tonight, but I've seen quite a few times, even this season, where he lets a pitcher go too long, and puts in a better one for mop up work.

Wasted appearance by Duke, IMO. Game was already lost.

"Why won't everyone do what I want???" ~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 12, 2006 8:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nawww....
Mulder was horrible warming up in the pen....

by BleacherDave on Sep 12, 2006 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, the basic frustration-anger-ranting...
...isn't nearly as bad as the macho shithead violence wet dreams.
"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 12, 2006 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Iguchi!!!!!
3-2 pale sox.

by homerozzieandthestraw on Sep 12, 2006 8:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright!
Go White Sox.
A's, baby!

by Coach Cleats on Sep 12, 2006 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

CWS LEADS 3-2!
I hate having to root for another team to help the A's.

by Flyin As on Sep 12, 2006 8:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

3-2 White Sox
Iguchi with a 2 RBI single.

by sprtsnwyn on Sep 12, 2006 8:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Blez...
I really respect the way the way you are able to step back and look at a game objectively right after it happens.  Not many people who care about something SO much as we know you do about the A's can do that.  I don't think that talent you possess for well written, thought out diaries within minutes of disappointment can be overstated.  Seriously...it's really impressive.

Sorry all..go back to ranting against Macha. :-)

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Sep 12, 2006 8:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I really try to step back
But at the same time I just snapped at my poor wife for no reason.  Guess I need to use the site to vent a little more often!

by Tyler Bleszinski on Sep 12, 2006 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just thinking the same, Blez.
Long walks and this site would be better all around than breaking remote controls...

by willcmatthews on Sep 12, 2006 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

chixsox
take the lead!

by Backspin on Sep 12, 2006 8:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Iguchi hit a first-pitch single
Chicago 3
LA (or whatever) 2
"It took eight hours...seven-and-a-half to find the heart." -- Steve McCatty on Charlie Finley's heart surgery.

by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 12, 2006 8:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Question unrelated
Tonight, Jeter went 0-0, with 3 walks and an HBP.  Game recaps say this keeps his hitting streak intact.  I think it definitely should break the streak.  However, I imagine there's precedent and baseball writers know the ruling.  Can anyone here confirm?

Oh yeah, Macha blew it.

by dscel on Sep 12, 2006 8:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The streak is still alive....
No official AB's.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Sep 12, 2006 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

right, thats the ruling
But it WAS an official game for him, and he didn't record an official hit.  So isn't a multi-game hitstreak officially over?  He did make plate appearances.  I mean, if he really wanted a streak to continue, he could've been swinging at pitches like Vlad.

by dscel on Sep 12, 2006 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, have to have an official AB
for the streak to expire.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Sep 12, 2006 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand
But I just fundamentally disagree with the rule.  It's not like a hit streak really matters, it's just kind of a unique thing...so why bend the pure-and-simple rule to keep it going?  It's like a guy batting a double, triple, and HR, then getting another double because an outfielder has a rag-arm.   Well unfortunately, the batter did not get the cycle. It's not entirely his fault, and it wasn't bad for the team, but he just didn't get it, sorry.

by dscel on Sep 12, 2006 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he didn't make a plate appearance...
...technically.

I like continuing the streak. If he gets walked every time, he really didn't have a chance to try for a hit.

by Flyin As on Sep 12, 2006 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree
It should only count to the streak if he gets an official AB, otherwise someone will walk a hitter if he ever gets to within 5 of Dimaggio just to preserve Joe's record
Goliath, dissatisfied with his size advantage, decided to buy David's sling, which took steroids.

by TexasAsfan on Sep 12, 2006 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be unfortunate
But, remember, just because a batter takes a walk doesn't necessarily mean he didn't get a pitch to put a bat on anyway.  It's not like a team would IBB a batter in 4-5 PAs.  Plus...way too obvious, no team would ever do that anyway.

by dscel on Sep 12, 2006 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wouldn't surprise me if someone did though
Goliath, dissatisfied with his size advantage, decided to buy David's sling, which took steroids.

by TexasAsfan on Sep 12, 2006 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what a gruesome spectacle
By the time Kennedy trudged off the field in disgrace, he'd gotten zero outs and had runners on second and third.

Why, when every game is critical right now, was that scenario allowed to happen?  I was absolutely stunned when he was allowed to start the eighth and pissed as hell that he was left out there to implode.

This, after last night running out the disgraceful combo of Sauerbeck/Witasick to take them completely out of the game.  Terrible bullpen decisions in this series.

by coffee roaster on Sep 12, 2006 8:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Posednik just thrown out at third.
Dumba**
"Why won't everyone do what I want???" ~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 12, 2006 8:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You wouldnt have put the **
about 10 mins ago...;-)
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Sep 12, 2006 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yes I did.
I totally censored the F&^%'s in the other thread.

All 1000,0000,00000000 of them.

"Why won't everyone do what I want???" ~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 12, 2006 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha...impressive.
I'm not a very good censorer
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Sep 12, 2006 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But ChiSox take the lead.
"Why won't everyone do what I want???" ~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 12, 2006 8:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It all doesn't matter
The Islamo--fascists are going to suitcase nuke a few olf our big cities pretty soon==so I hear from a few reliable sources--so goodbye baseball and everything else.

by Salvatore on Sep 12, 2006 8:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A few of the cities that I heard are targets...
New York, Boston, Washington DC, Miami--nothing on the West Coast.

by Salvatore on Sep 12, 2006 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My word dude..
What the hell is that?
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Sep 12, 2006 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, thank god
you're doing everything you can to save lives by posting this incredibly important information on...Athletics Nation.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Sep 12, 2006 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

idiots
caught stealing with the mvp at the plate.

by Backspin on Sep 12, 2006 8:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know
that I've ever been angrier with Macha after a game.  Ever.

But everyone's right, our pitching is sucking donkey dicks at just the most exquisitely worst time.  It's on the players but as the manager you just don't give away a game we were about to win at the most crucial time in the season.

As I write this the Pale Hose are helping us out, having taken a lead on the Halos with Dye and Thome due up.  Let us pray they score 43 runs in this inning.

I should also give proper respects to the Twins, who have a marvelous young & hungry team, a team I would rather eat wood than face in a short series.

1972...1973...1974...1989...2006

by emperor nobody on Sep 12, 2006 8:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

me too
this was the second time I said "WHAT?" at a Macha decision (this second time, a non-decision)

by OaklandSi on Sep 12, 2006 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Twins are coming hard..
Young and hungry is a perfect description.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Sep 12, 2006 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Three points . . .
Not gonna add to the Macha analysis cuz i pretty much agree with most of it.  Just a couple thoughts:
  1.  Kennedy looks like a way better pitcher when he faces 1 or 2 hitters versus four or more.  Doesn't this show he's a true Loogy even though sometimes he gets righties out?
  2.  The entire pitching staff has made horrible pitches on 0 - 2 counts for more than a week now.  Seriously, do they think you have to get a batter out in 3 pitches?  Tonight's prime example was Cruddyer's double on an 0 - 2 pitch.
  3.  Kendall needs to rest.  He is not blocking balls in the dirt nearly as good as he used to.  Kennedy and Duke both had wild pitches that should have been properly blocked but because Kendall has played 188 ggames in a row, he is tired and he didn't get down far enough to block,  thus costing at least a run.

by oaktownmario on Sep 12, 2006 8:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

New proposed tactic . . .
Could we maybe get somebody to replace the September calendars in the locker room with June 2006?

Great news about ChiSox, too.

by Bixby23 on Sep 12, 2006 8:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

For whatever reason
relievers have problems if they pitch two innings.
We have seen this innumerable times over the years we watch the A's, Macha has never realized this, and doubt he ever will.  But like most of you I thought this had sweep written all over it anyway, but god, a win would have almost assured the pennant.

by china bob on Sep 12, 2006 8:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If...
If I saw Macha walking in the street and would find the rustiest, narliest piece of Big Hurt rebar and bludgeon his ass to death. I'm serious.
"Don't you play the flute, Huddy?"

by capper3 on Sep 12, 2006 8:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

'i would find'
"Don't you play the flute, Huddy?"

by capper3 on Sep 12, 2006 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks
Add this garbage to my list, below.
"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 12, 2006 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But I am serious.....
Report me to Homeland Security.

Seriously though Poppy, it is a reflection of the ultimate frustration with his bonehead non-moves tonight.

"Don't you play the flute, Huddy?"

by capper3 on Sep 12, 2006 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Off topic,
but the Twinkies annoying announcers mentioned the A's possibly seeking a Frank Thomas-esque Mulder signing for the A's in 2007 . . . any thoughts?
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 8:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point . . .
Macha pisses me the hell off
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've heard this before
in fact, I think Huddy may have been quoted as saying Mulder would benefit from familiar surroundings and a one year contract to try and "come back" in Oakland

by OaklandSi on Sep 12, 2006 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like that . . .
if the price is right, of course, and there is enough left to give Big Frank an extension.
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mulder...hmmm
Now I've got to look at last year.  For most of the year I was comparing Haren and Mulder.  Now I forget how Mulder's year ended up.  I had always assumed that management saw a problem with Mulder's arm.  

I am not sure I wan to see another member of this team spend half of the season on the DL.  Maybe Mulder should be a pass, even though I used to love to watch him pitch.

by robsf on Sep 12, 2006 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blaming the manager is one thing...
...but:

"if we lose the division
i think one of us needs to take macha out back and put a bullet in his head for every game we lost in september."

"FIRE MACHA NOW" -- "shoot him now"

"you're an idiot
everyone could see where that was headed once cuddyer came up"

"Dear jesus in heaven....
please strike ken macha dead tonight, thanks"

"Nathan coming up
I hope somebody hits a foul ball so so so hard, hits macha so so so hard that he cannot coach for the rest of the season."

"SOMEONE PLEASE, KILL MACHA, WE NEED A HERO, IT'S A SACRIFICE WE'LL HONOR FOREVER."

"Payton looks like he wants to kill Macha" -- "I kind of hope he does"

"i'd love to see beane suspend macha" -- "I'd rather he beat him senseless with a chair"

"I want to kill him right now.  Just kill.  Dead."

:-|

Unbelievable.

"I miss taking showers with Kendall" ~ Brian Giles

by Poppy on Sep 12, 2006 8:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you Poppy
The hate is going too far.

by IM4Oakgal on Sep 12, 2006 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet!
I just said he was a terrible important-game manager and that's why the A's lost the big games.

I don't want him dead, just doing something other than managing the team I love.

"Why won't everyone do what I want???" ~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 12, 2006 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously though...
...that was a lot of hate. And I understand to a degree, I'm as angry as anyone...but wow.
"Why won't everyone do what I want???" ~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 12, 2006 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on, Poppy.
Stop being a douchebag! That's what your supposed to say. MACHA LOVER! MACHA LOVER! Witch! BURN HER!
Something tells me Joe would not be cool with that.

by Jennifer on Sep 12, 2006 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thought you had turned in by now.
up for a glass of water?
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...and in 2006 don't make me sick.

by ak_A on Sep 12, 2006 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moonshine.
Something tells me Joe would not be cool with that.

by Jennifer on Sep 12, 2006 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

does the bridge of your nose
have an indent mark from tipping the rim of the mason jar up on it?
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...and in 2006 don't make me sick.

by ak_A on Sep 12, 2006 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well you haven't heard mine yet
Macha is a BIG OL' MEANIE MANAGER MAN!!!!

So There

by theblackpearl on Sep 12, 2006 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

<shudders>
I can only imagine what Cindi might say

by OaklandSi on Sep 12, 2006 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh. Her main point
about Macha is that he doesn't accessorize well, but she's not sure a manager should be fired for that; maybe just "talked to".
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 12, 2006 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't hold people responsible
for what they put while they were angry, emotions got the best of them, and you have to admit that Ken Macha completely screwed the pooch tonight
Goliath, dissatisfied with his size advantage, decided to buy David's sling, which took steroids.

by TexasAsfan on Sep 12, 2006 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
that's some pretty vitriolic stuff right there.  I honestly think Macha has made the right move 95 percent of time this year.  This was just one of those nights when he needed to do anything and everything to try and get this victory.

It doesn't warrant those kinds of attacks.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Sep 12, 2006 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well....
Jeff from Lookout Landing wanted an umpire dead this year. ;)

It comes with the territory of passionate baseball fans. We live and die with this team, and can't stand it when the wrong decisions are made, ESPECIALLY in big games.

"Why won't everyone do what I want???" ~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 12, 2006 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of which:
The home plate umpiring tonight--not good. Didn't help or hurt either team more or less, just bad all around. I thought Kennedy had Mauer struck out in the 8th, which was a huge call, but I also thought the A's got some bizarre breaks at other times, so all in all it was a wash.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 12, 2006 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shameful list
There is no excuse for this stuff.  None.  The "fans get frustrated" line doesn't excuse wishing death on anyone.  I am embarrassed to read it; frankly, the general lack of this sort of horseshit is what seperates AN from the rest of the sports blogs.  Thanks Poppy for making folks think.
"I don't want to 'Wear It.' It doesn't match my shoes." --Jennifer

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Sep 12, 2006 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angels just tied it :(
"Why won't everyone do what I want???" ~SportySpice

by baseballgirl on Sep 12, 2006 8:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i'll listen to baun show for a while
<said they have record number of emails tonight> then move over to angel game on mlb with sound off!
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...and in 2006 don't make me sick.

by ak_A on Sep 12, 2006 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please post some
I'd like to know what some of the responses are.

by sprtsnwyn on Sep 12, 2006 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well if its anything like this board....
Goliath, dissatisfied with his size advantage, decided to buy David's sling, which took steroids.

by TexasAsfan on Sep 12, 2006 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me save AKA some time:
  1. KEEN MACHO IS A TERD. kILL HEM. hEEZ THROWEN da DEVESION AWAY. WE KNEED tOONEY lARUZA!
  2. one of us needs to take macha out back and put a bullet in his head for every game we lost in september
  3. FIRE MACHA NOW!
Take those times 1,000.
Something tells me Joe would not be cool with that.

by Jennifer on Sep 12, 2006 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no mention of emails yet but
he said early on some "were over the top.."  But while taking calls Buan is being way too defensive about the Kennedy fiasco ... rationalizing the decision too far IMO... pretty lame when it was clearly something most of us saw, dreaded at the moment.
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...and in 2006 don't make me sick.

by ak_A on Sep 12, 2006 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
I really really can't take Hudler tonight.
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

um...wow.
"I almost landed in some lady's lap, which was kinda fun.'' -- Swish

by Sharon on Sep 12, 2006 8:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is your fault.
Something tells me Joe would not be cool with that.

by Jennifer on Sep 12, 2006 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please, don't kill me.
<cries>
"I almost landed in some lady's lap, which was kinda fun.'' -- Swish

by Sharon on Sep 12, 2006 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just me...
...and Macha.
"I almost landed in some lady's lap, which was kinda fun.'' -- Swish

by Sharon on Sep 12, 2006 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No,
according to a poster above, we're all going to die. I'm going to make sure Sharon and MACHO are the first ones to go.
Something tells me Joe would not be cool with that.

by Jennifer on Sep 12, 2006 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Today wasn't the A's day.
They also lost their tenth playoff coin flip in a row which is ridiculous. A loss to the Twins tonite was very possible in comparison. Whatev, just got to wear it and fight tommorrow.

Let's Go A's!

"We are deep-sea diving in the Monongahela River after heavy rains in the western Pennsylvania area." - A's Fearless Leader

by OaktownRajah on Sep 12, 2006 8:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The odds of that happening
are only 1 out of 1,024. Which, ironically, are the odds that Kennedy will fare better than Duchscherer when facing Michael Cuddyer.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 12, 2006 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

(Applauds)
Goliath, dissatisfied with his size advantage, decided to buy David's sling, which took steroids.

by TexasAsfan on Sep 12, 2006 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn
We even choke on coin flips. Gotta love it... not really...
Chicks dig Moneyball.

by Kelly on Sep 12, 2006 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Sox!
Bail us out.  But not Macha.  

by sprtsnwyn on Sep 12, 2006 8:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's
Go SOX! C'mon!
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about walking Morneau with the tying run
on third and first base open? Oh no!!! That would have taken a Manager!?!?!
"I think we just feel that now is our time." - Nick Swisher

by saint on Sep 12, 2006 8:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Valid point
but the bigger problem is leaving Kennedy in to face Cuddyer
Goliath, dissatisfied with his size advantage, decided to buy David's sling, which took steroids.

by TexasAsfan on Sep 12, 2006 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup
I was pacing and shaking my head...

by OaklandSi on Sep 12, 2006 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Certainly:
I am just pointing out the obvious points that prove that Macha was sleeping with his eyes open.
  1. Duke is your 8th inning guy
  2. Duke was not even warming up when the inning began
  3. Duke HAS to face Cuddyer
  4. Morneau SHOULD been walked
But we are used to seeing this bag of garbage beeing outmanaged down the stretch every year!!!

I nearly cried, litterally, when he was resigned.

"I think we just feel that now is our time." - Nick Swisher

by saint on Sep 12, 2006 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's time for a big group hug
<takes shelter from the shower of flying objects>

by Ray of Lite on Sep 12, 2006 8:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah hell
The Twins stole one tonight, let's hope the A's can steal one back from Liriano tomorrow. Heh
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 9:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Silver lining?
Liriano is on a tight pitch count tomorrow and Minny's 'pen has been stretched pretty far in this series so far.

Any word on Huston?

by sienna on Sep 12, 2006 9:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What do you think Barry is thinking?
After tonight's game:
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Chicks dig Moneyball.

by Kelly on Sep 12, 2006 9:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"Man I can't wait to see the...
White Sox beat K-Rod tonight"
MEOW

by smith1051 on Sep 12, 2006 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

jeebus, glad I ain't pitchin here tomorrow
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...and in 2006 don't make me sick.

by ak_A on Sep 12, 2006 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed
Time for the Experts.
It's It. What is it? aim: encryptthisthat

by Hit4TheCycle on Sep 12, 2006 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All by myself...
Dont wanna be... All by myself anymore...
Something tells me Joe would not be cool with that.

by Jennifer on Sep 12, 2006 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

let me see
im trying to think of a way they could have taken some of the runs from my last game and used them

by smasfan on Sep 12, 2006 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm
should I take the $18 million a year from the Mets, or the Dodgers, the Mets have a really good line up, but I'm really more of a West Coast guy....
Goliath, dissatisfied with his size advantage, decided to buy David's sling, which took steroids.

by TexasAsfan on Sep 12, 2006 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My anger is dissipating...
and I am starting to feel ...sad instead.

by IM4Oakgal on Sep 12, 2006 9:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Crap
ChiSox had the go ahead run 90 feet from home with one out in the top of the 9th, and they failed to get him home.
"It took eight hours...seven-and-a-half to find the heart." -- Steve McCatty on Charlie Finley's heart surgery.

by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 12, 2006 9:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's the A's September in a nutshell.
"We are deep-sea diving in the Monongahela River after heavy rains in the western Pennsylvania area." - A's Fearless Leader

by OaktownRajah on Sep 12, 2006 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ChiSox can't win. Uribe has an askew cap
in his mlb.com gameday pic.  

by calvin on Sep 12, 2006 9:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I have to vent...if that's ok..
I find it funny that no one else really mocks Payton going back on balls to the outfield.  The one he played into a double was just sadly hilarious.

I must give him props for his effort at a Rickey Run with the walk and advance on sac...

I'm pissed at Ellis and his lackadasical tag. It's not the first time he's done that this year and it bothers the hell out of me

I thought Calero should have pitched into the 7th, but it worked out...and when Duke didn't come out for the 8th, I was curious, but it peaked when 2 on and no outs and Killer Cuddyer came up.  I was just curious, why isn't Duke coming out...he could do the 2 inning save thing if necessary.  oh well...

It was a good game, but the biggest thing to me was the amount of outs we gave them with Payton and Ellis.
It's also amazing to see what 2 out hitting with runners in scoring position can do for your squad.
So it's very easy and almost obvious to scapegoat Macha (again), but it's games like this when you leave bases loaded with 1 out and runners on 3rd with 2 outs that just kill you.
Macha isn't a genius in the dugout but our clutch hitting, or lack thereof, is what's really hurting us.

Still not worried. I hope the Sox pull it out, but don't really care. It's ours for the taking.
PERIOD

"Who cares?" he said. "We won." - Swisher; "I like the moist sensation" - Zito

by Erik being Erik on Sep 12, 2006 9:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What someone besides Macha might have lost the
game for us? Impossible. I know. I read AN.

by IM4Oakgal on Sep 12, 2006 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I
did like Jay's drag bunt.
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 9:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i put walk..
but I meant bunt (regarding the Rickey Run)
"Who cares?" he said. "We won." - Swisher; "I like the moist sensation" - Zito

by Erik being Erik on Sep 12, 2006 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

JayPay's bunt single
was one of my favorite single moments of the season, because I love smart baseball. He realized he couldn't hit this guy he hadn't seen before, who had a funky delivery, so he figured "heck, lay one down, put it in play"--then a "heads up" tag up, and he was rewarded by scoring later in the inning. Just awesome.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 12, 2006 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I figured...
I should say something positive about his play today, because his defense still just makes me laugh when he goes back on a fly ball.

I thought that inning with his speed and Marco's clutch hit put it away... silly me

"Who cares?" he said. "We won." - Swisher; "I like the moist sensation" - Zito

by Erik being Erik on Sep 12, 2006 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
His defense has been subpar lately, to put it lightly. But kudos to him for the drag bunt single. I love old time baseball like that :)
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 13, 2006 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thome will homer...
I can feel it

by calvin on Sep 12, 2006 9:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Missed opportunities
Most frustrating thing for me in a game like this is the missed opportunities:
  • pick a guy off with two outs and miss the tag, two runs end up scoring. Isn't that like the third time we've had a guy picked and blew it?
  • bases jammed, one out, get nothing for the millionth time this year (made all the more frustrating by watching teams like Minn continually score 2+ runs there, not just the 1 you have to get at minimum)
Most worrisome, though, is the pitching. What happened to our staff? Hopefully, they can straighten things out soon.
A's 2006 record when I attend: 10-7

by peanut gallery on Sep 12, 2006 10:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

<sigh>
4.5 game up :o(
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 10:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

eek
games* rather
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 12, 2006 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeebus
Halos win in 11

Shit

"It took eight hours...seven-and-a-half to find the heart." -- Steve McCatty on Charlie Finley's heart surgery.

by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 12, 2006 10:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

fuck it
just fuck it all.
1972...1973...1974...1989...2006

by emperor nobody on Sep 12, 2006 10:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good thing we had a good august
and got the big lead. It is so important now that we are losing.

by IM4Oakgal on Sep 12, 2006 10:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Glass 97.26% Full!

We are in a bonafide RACE now!

GOOD! We can renew momentum for October! We need teeth, gnashing gnarly teeth. What better way than to drop a game or two and face a fight on your hands! I don't want a "walk-in" A's team without Harden, I want a late season battle tested "Harden-ized" team, or no team at all!

The pendulum has only swung a little. May the best team find the Yanks in the AL pennant.

by baseballbill on Sep 12, 2006 10:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

that will be the A's
thank you very much...
"Who cares?" he said. "We won." - Swisher; "I like the moist sensation" - Zito

by Erik being Erik on Sep 12, 2006 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Curse of Dan Johnson?
I'd love to see our record with Johnson on the team...I know he homered tonight, but it seems we went in the tank when he was here, he left, we got hot, and bam right back...
"Christ, evidentally I played against Swisher in '02 when he was at OSU and Granderson when he was at Illinois-Chicago."

by compy75 on Sep 12, 2006 10:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i am curious about that too
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...and in 2006 don't make me sick.

by ak_A on Sep 12, 2006 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a witch! Burn 'im! Burn 'im!
"The guy's Far Eastern. Psychic. He knows what the hitters are looking for, and he relays that to me," Zito said.

by LAXile on Sep 12, 2006 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey folks...
The A's are still in the driver's seat to win the division. Seriously.  Baseball is streaky and right now we're in a bit of a rocky stretch.  All is not lost! We're gonna win tomorrow and dominate the Chisox this weekend. Seriously.

Also,  not to be too much of a prude but we could do with way less potty mouth imo (and at the Coliseum as well).

by Bearcat on Sep 12, 2006 10:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn Ok.
; )
"You're just jealous. You wish you had a rally animal..." -CardinalWraith

by Boonee on Sep 12, 2006 10:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty fucking lame
Fuck you, Kennedy.

Crosby sucks.

I'll try not to swear.

by Tony on Sep 12, 2006 10:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

okay, and g'night
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...and in 2006 don't make me sick.

by ak_A on Sep 12, 2006 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joe Nathan
What's up with that twitchy, loud-mouth prick?
COME ON, OAKLAND, COME ON!

by Colorado Fan on Sep 12, 2006 11:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I know most people are sleeping fitfully,
having nightmares of Macha leaving his whites in the washer too long, while Cuddyer turns into the giant gallon of milk in right field at the Metrodome and pours it on thick over our toAsted oAts...but I was too pissed off to write anything earlier, and I'm glad I didn't physically threaten KenMa like so many of you did. I would prefer to torture him psychologically the way they did in A Clockwork Orange, by mechanically spreading his eyelids open and making him watch video of the superviolence of Twinkie bats repeatedly hitting our best pitchers, over and over and over...There is also the fact that Macha kinda-sorta blamed Kennedy for throwing an 0-2 strike to Cuddyer:
"We continue to give up 0-2 hits. We're putting ourselves in a position to get people out, and we throw them strikes. That's been hurting us on this road trip."
"We"? Is this a misuse of the pronoun "we"? You, know, man, the royal we... This 0-2 pitch count thing seems to have been overlooked on this FMN thread, so perhaps it'll help us take our mind off of our collective decision to tear poor KenMa a new one and squeeze lemon juice on it. Or maybe not.
"The guy's Far Eastern. Psychic. He knows what the hitters are looking for, and he relays that to me," Zito said.

by LAXile on Sep 13, 2006 12:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

To me thats the big issue and it has been for a
month now....

Too many 0-2 hits because our pitchers are throwing too many bad pitches on 0-2.

Can Kendall be blamed?

"I hate the Angels"

by Vegas A's Fan on Sep 13, 2006 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't think so
judging from the number of times lately I've seen the pitchers completely miss the spot Kendall was calling for, leaving pitches up and right over the middle.

by Ray of Lite on Sep 13, 2006 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont know much abput baseball
but really enjoying watching it. kendall can call for certain pitches but for some reason or another the pitcher may try but cant get the ball to do what he wants it to. plus kendall looks at dugout before he calls for a pitch. that was a discussion they had once with fossee also,

by smasfan on Sep 13, 2006 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Genesis lyrics that seem to apply
are from an earlier incarnation, and perhaps describe Joe Kennedy's 8th inning last night:

"...hovering like a fly, waiting for the windshield on the freeway..."

or maybe in reference to Macha's failure to go to Duke to start the 8th:

"Well, you're looking tired and ill
with your consent we can experiment further still..."

I really hope our little hogweeds can salvage one game in the dome of death.

1972...1973...1974...1989...2006

by emperor nobody on Sep 13, 2006 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

bad decision by Macha
When I saw "Honey Fitz" still out there instead of Duke for the eighth, I knew we were going to lose.  Worst managerial move since pinch hitting for Dye in the playoffs against Boston. I usually am one to defend Macha, but I can't even figure out what he was thinking with that bonehead move.

by Brian in 317 on Sep 13, 2006 6:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mola ram sudha ram!
Great reference, Blez!  The A's need the help and good sidekick abilities of Short Round to at least salvage a victory from the Metrodome of Doom.

You're betrayed Shiva!

"Hate the Angels, yeahhhhh!" -Sandfrog

by franks a lot on Sep 13, 2006 7:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Positives for Wednesday
  1. If the A's can get a win today, this will be a 3-3 road trip. Lately, after the A's drop the first two in a series, they usually come back to win the third game. The last example would be last week against Texas.
  2. I like the White Sox's chances today with Freddy Garcia against Saunders.
  3. Even if the A's lose, and the Angels win putting the A's at 3 1/2 up, look to Thursday with the Angels in Texas for FOUR games! Magic numbers will go down and I am putting the A's up by 5 games in the West by end of Sunday.
Go A's!
A's, baby!

by Coach Cleats on Sep 13, 2006 8:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point
Texas is generally seems to be a surefire way to halt any form of "hot streak" a team may be having. Let's hope that Texas offense obliterates that Halo pitching, all the while Oakland's pitching staff pulls its head out of its arse.
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 13, 2006 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooops
Good point(s)* rather and I meant "Texas generally seems . . ."
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 13, 2006 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Garcia vs. Saunders
That's too funny.
"The first night, we were right there," Bradley said. "All we needed was a couple of touchdowns, and we would have had them."

by jeepers on Sep 13, 2006 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they'll win tonight
Liriano is on a pitch count, and the Twins are almost a mirror image of the A's, but are teams with great defense, great bullpens, and so so offense, Its just that Torii Hunter is hot right now, and i don't think we have a Mauer like hitter.

by jahs34 on Sep 13, 2006 8:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Boy
do I hope!! Guys like Kendall, Big Frank, etc. will hopefully work the count, and make Liriano throw a lot of pitches . . . and get him the heck out of there early.
"It's never 'just a game' if you're winning" - George Carlin

by bluelightrain84 on Sep 13, 2006 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FRANK WAS SAYING SOMETHING
TO JAY PAY THOUGHT SLIDER

by smasfan on Sep 13, 2006 10:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

announcers saying that pitcher
knew jaY PAY WENT FOR FIRST PITCH

by smasfan on Sep 13, 2006 10:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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