DLD 8/25 Whitey Ford -- Stoked
by eamb on Aug 25, 2006 12:42 AM PDT
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Whitey can rest easy, as his mark for best AL start remained tied with little weaver, as the BoSox won last night, 2-1 at the little a. Beckett pitched great and was actually throwing his curve ball a lot more than I've seen him this year, and what do you know, he cuts his middle finger on his pitching hand and had to come out in the 7th. If you missed the game, you didn't really miss much, Ortiz homered, little weaver looked basically unhittable against everyone else not named Ortiz (Manny didn't play), and the Halos made the first out at home plate down by a run. That's bad, like, really bad (at least that's what Cindi tells me).
The Mariners won their series against New York last night, Washburn over Johnson, and the M's are now 58-69. Yankees travel to Anaheim to play the Mighty Ducks over the weekend, RedSox fly to Seattle. As for the Muppets, we're playing Texas in what could be a statement series ("GO AWAY TEXAS"), or, like a total bummer on my GOG score dude.
About tonight/this weekend. First off, it seems like guys have been getting hurt at Texas this year (Harden, Milton), so can we please try and stay healthy this time around? The pitching matchup for tonight:
First game of the series, Friday night, first pitch: 5:35pm PDT
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Zito (13-8, 3.76) Volquez (1-2, 4.02)
Zito has a great record against the 'angers, hopefully he shakes off that last start against Texas at the Coliseum, I know I'm trying to.
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And for the record, our game thread of the BOS/LAA game last night was WAY more fun than the one at Halos Heaven.
Then there's the diary where the Rev says that Angels fans are better than A's fans: http://www.halosheaven.com/story/2006/8/24/203227/689
Of course by that logic, Yankees fans are the best in the game. And even the Rev would agree that that ain't true.
Black Chevrolet
Skepticism of Yankees as an enterprise
this sounds like the kind of article...
by Cutthemullet on Aug 25, 2006 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw a Steinbrenner/Lackey once
Scariest thing I ever saw.
Friggin' Mouth Breathers
Scary.
by Colorado Fan on Aug 25, 2006 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Great work!
by franks a lot on Aug 25, 2006 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Sloth love Chunk!!
Baby Ruth!
by LD on Aug 25, 2006 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
no, that's chris shelton
MLB owners stash loot like Marcos and Mobutu
Owners also pay themselves salaries and bonuses which get charged as expenses to the team. A particularly egregious example involved Steinbrenner (natch) paying himself a $25 million fee for negotiating a cable deal in the 80s. Counted as a "loss" on the books, but probably didn't feel like a loss in George's bank account.
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Aug 25, 2006 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
mf'in snakes in the mf'in THEATRE!!!
really bad to read that this early.
Gives new meaning to the phrase
Not to miss the forest for the trees...
by baseballgirl on Aug 25, 2006 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Seriously...
That sentence killed me
by OaktownPower on Aug 25, 2006 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
My foot
by blueconversechucks on Aug 25, 2006 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Especially when the snakes
by blueconversechucks on Aug 25, 2006 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
SLITHER OUT!
Slither on... slither off.
The link isn't working for me
http://www.dtheatre.com/read.php?sid=1858
those are the same idiots
The 2006 Scouting Report by the Fans for the Fans
So, if you want to feel like a scout for the day, go on and fill up the report card our A's
Sal, Sal, Sal
And for those jumping directly to the Oakland link
DO NOT CONSIDER THE POSITION THE PLAYER PLAYS!
DO NOT CONSIDER THE POSITION THE PLAYER PLAYS!
DO NOT CONSIDER THE POSITION THE PLAYER PLAYS!
numbers
a similar list...
"One", U2
"Two of Hearts", Stacey Q (ow, old neurons firing)
"Three is the Magic Number", Schoolhouse Rock, de la soul
(rest left to the reader)
--
On a similar topic, I always liked that old contest where you made new made new media titles by incrementing old ones. Entries I recall:
Five Weddings and Two Funerals
Six Easy Pieces
A Tale of Three Cities
Thirteen Angry Men
and my favorite... 2002: A Space Even-ssy
Five Whom the Bell Tolls
How the West Was Two
the cars that nine paris
for German fans of Will Ferrell ...
as I always say ...
$1,000,001 Baby
by franks a lot on Aug 25, 2006 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Much Ado About One Thing
Tea for Three
The Four Amigos
Born on the 5th of July
The 6th Element
Seven Degrees of Separation
Ei8ht
Nine Men Out
10-1/2 Weeks
... and, of course: Hitchcock's The 40 Steps
2010: a space... d'oh!
Don't forget
looks like my Criterion dvd
http://dvdfile.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5580&Itemid=3
I'm going backwards on this one
Zero True Things
Lord Of The Rings: The One Tower
The Two Musketeers
Fantastic Three
The Fourth Element
Five Feet Under
Lucky Number Slix
by Philip Christy on Aug 25, 2006 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The Empire Spares Back?
Some Of The President's Men
by Philip Christy on Aug 25, 2006 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Eleven-Men
by peanut gallery on Aug 25, 2006 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Surprised no Sixteen Candles yet
5 Platonic solids...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Aug 25, 2006 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Woofing, Shmoofing
Athletics magic number is 30 with 35 left to play. Put another way, the Angels magic number sits at 41 with 34 games remaining on the slate.
Help
I just re-watched Hurt's 3-run double
I remember that one as well. My theory:
too much
Frank's double
In both cases, coming off the bat, I remember thinking, dang! that ball's not outta here?, but then I realized, who cares? we won the game! And it was against a team I love beating like a dirty rug.
by Checkswing HR on Aug 25, 2006 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
speaking of Frank and doubles, Dayn Perry says
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/powerRankings
On the other hand, he's got a shot to join Dave Kingman as the only players in major league history to tally at least 35 homers and fewer than 10 doubles in the same season. Still, it's been a productive year for the Big Hurt.
by theblackpearl on Aug 25, 2006 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
confirmed: beane fleeced jocketty
Jocketty: Fleeced = Understatement
...closer to the truth.
by Colorado Fan on Aug 25, 2006 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
controversial perspective
But my point, and I do have one, is that his part of the deal can't be judged on how the talent matches up in the long run. It needs to be judged on whether the Cards make it to the WS in 05 and 06.
(And by that standard, they are falling short... even if they make the WS this year, it won't be because of Mulder.)
Mulder injured?
and that is why i don't watch the little
by larrysgurl on Aug 25, 2006 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I think
Hey, is that Bartolo Colon's kid?
I do not follow the NL much
by shooting4life on Aug 25, 2006 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
But I looked it up and
This gives me hope that I could land a job at CNN/SI.
by blueconversechucks on Aug 25, 2006 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
More on managers
The author posits that there are four types of managers:
- "The teaching and development kind of manager that a young, rebuilding or expansion team will install."
- "There is the micro-manager, the preparation-and-details guy who knows every stat and plays percentages."
- "Then there is the paranoid psychotic, the us-against-the-world kind ... who scraps and fights and challenges his players to be real men and suck it up and get the job done."
- "The third kind brings an air of calm to the clubhouse. He needs good players to succeed, but he lets good players play, tries to keep the keel even in good times or bad and seldom lets himself go off the deep end. He's only good with a good team, but he won't wreck a good team by overmanaging."
I'll start
- Girardi, Maddon.
- Showalter, La Russa.
- Guillen, Scioscia to some extent.
- The author points out Joe Torre as an example. I think Macha also fits into this category.
managers
- Bobby Cox?
- Jim Leyland, in a good way?
- Larry Bowa? Not a current manager though.
- Willie Randolph.
Was talking about Gaston yesterday...
by PDXAthleticsfan on Aug 25, 2006 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Category 5: Will watch his ace rip his arm off...
Every. Single. Time.
Dusty Baker, take a bow.
Whitey Ford & Sandy Koufax
The Night Game
Some of us believe
We would have conceived romantic
Love out of our own passions
With no precedents,
Without songs and poetry--
Or have invented poetry and music
As a comb of cells for the honey.
Shaped by ignorance,
A succession of new worlds,
Congruities improvised by
Immigrants or children.
I once thought most people were Italian,
Jewish or Colored.
To be white and called
Something like Ed Ford
Seemed aristocratic,
A rare distinction.
Possibly I believed only gentiles
And blonds could be left-handed.
Already famous
After one year in the majors,
Whitey Ford was drafted by the Army
To play ball in the flannels
Of the Signal Corps, stationed
In Long Branch, New Jersey.
A night game, the silver potion
Of the lights, his pink skin
Shining like a burn.
Never a player
I liked or hated: a Yankee,
A mere success.
But white the chalked-off lines
In the grass, white and green
The immaculate uniform,
And white the unpigmented
Halo of his hair
When he shifted his cap:
So ordinary and distinct,
So close up, that I felt
As if I could have made him up,
Imagined him as I imagined
The ball, a scintilla
High in the black backdrop
Of the sky. Tight red stitches.
Rawlings. The bleached
Horsehide white: the color
Of nothing. Color of the past
And of the future, of the movie screen
At rest and of blank paper.
"I could have." The mind. The black
Backdrop, the white
Fly picked out by the towering
Lights. A few years later
On a blanket in the grass
By the same river
A girl and I came into
Being together
To the faint muttering
Of unthinkable
Troubadours and radios.
The emerald
Theater, the night.
Another time,
I devised a left-hander
Even more gifted
Than Whitey Ford: A Dodger.
People were amazed by him.
Once, when he was young,
He refused to pitch on Yom Kippur.
Robert Pinsky
by NoeValley on Aug 25, 2006 9:03 AM PDT reply actions
<pretends not to be hurt>
Cheer up, monkeyball:
Strained oblique reference?
by Englishmajor on Aug 25, 2006 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Maple vs. ash
When a hitter makes contact and his bat splits in two and the shattered barrel flies across the field -- or into the crowd -- it's usually maple.
Just in case you wanted to know the composition of that projectile that just impaled you. (I typoed "imapled" first... how apt... LOL)
lol
I thought iMaple was the
no, no, no ...
As in, "iMaple my oblique muscle" ...
At SF State
Currently only available in Canada.
And Vermont.
I, for one, am sick of all this ashtalk
I see dead people.
Arkansa?
Is that
And an agent saying...
Jermaine Dye hit two homeruns last night,
Ah, I see
Fantastic absolutely....
Happy for Jermaine, always a guy I liked while with the A's.
by OaktownPower on Aug 25, 2006 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
In honor of Jermaine's drumbeat
I miss Dye ... One can only dream - Bradley+Kotsay+Dye in the OF.
Big Papi
Fielding or no Fielding, PAPI is the MVP. Not just because of his numbers, but because, plain and simple...
David Ortiz is the Best Hitter in today's game...and the most FEARED.
by Colorado Fan on Aug 25, 2006 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
manny
Disagree.
How many times is that jackass going to bust a triple into a double through sheer lack of effort before someone pulls him?
When he stops being
You need more than one skill to be MVP.
Manny isn't a terrible fielder
I think it's fairer to question whether or not you can give an MVP award to someone who doesn't seem like a leader on their team. You could certainly argue against Manny for that. For me, though, hitting is far and away the most important skill a position player can have, so I tend to favor him in MVP voting right now.
That said, Jermaine Dye is rapidly approaching his numbers, and is an above-average fielder. I also think few would question what kind of teammate he is.
Papi plays
Manny sits because he loses a hit to a scoring decision.
No comparison..Papi for MVP.
by OaktownPower on Aug 25, 2006 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
true, but that doesn't mean
even FT agrees
T K Hits One Out Of The Park:
I love Billy's line about the A's being a "Freak Show"!!!
by saint @ Athletics Nation on Aug 25, 2006 9:52 AM PDT reply actions
If the sabermetrician fits ... WEAR IT!
You know I rarely do this
"And since coming off the disabled list to begin the second half, outfielder Milton Bradley has given Oakland a switch-hitting presence in the middle of the order. No one has ever questioned Bradley's ability, which is tremendous; the only question is whether an implosion is soon coming."
This gives the impression that Bradley's impact has been limited by an attitude problem. While sensational, this is misleading, untrue and insulting. Bradley has been unable to translate his ability to runs because on injuries. This has been true troughout his career. Tim, this is BS sensationalism. Do your job. Wait, its ESPN, I guess his job is to sell copy through drama and insinuation as opposed to hardwork and craftsmanship.
by mikedaviswhereareyou on Aug 25, 2006 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with that:
I like that Milton is getting props for his record with the Dodgers.
That was a LONG TIME COMING!!!
In fact, I did the math myself as soon as I saw that we acquired him and went on to write a piece about how valuable his presence was.
Guess what?
The A's clubhouse has gravitated to him!!!
AN-d where has Urban been lately!?!?!?!
I can excuse TK for touching on it, especially when the A's own beat reporter ripped on him incesently.
by saint @ Athletics Nation on Aug 25, 2006 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
so bradley is the new bobby crosby?
Bradley has been a winner EVERY Year:
The year before, Bradley led thier playoff push.
He then led them in 05 and was CUT, basically. Traded for a AA player.
In fact, he was DUMPED.
They even threw in ANtonio Perez who hit .297 in 2005.
In retrospect Ethier has Completely "OVER PERFORMED" to expectations. But, talent for talent at the time, Milton was the best player in that deal.
In fact, I am glad that we have his personality in the mix.
Ethier is mellow and would have "blended" in.
Milton is "The Blender"!!!!
by saint @ Athletics Nation on Aug 25, 2006 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
professionalism vs craftsmanship
Meaning that he prioritizes trust in his colleagues' opinions and established storylines over the truth.
It's obvious now
by Philip Christy on Aug 25, 2006 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Kurkjian's is another in a line of
Sure, the offense for the season to date has been at the bottom, but, since the All Star break, the A's are middle of the AL pack in terms of OPS and runs scored, which I would bet is on par for the previous 3-4 seasons. In any case, did anybody expect us to outscore NYY, TEX,BOS, or CLE?
by Checkswing HR on Aug 25, 2006 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The Frank Thomas picture
Can someone place this Q in the Neyer Chat?
How much weight should be given the extra 32 (apx) crucial run scoring outs and the runs themselves over the course of the season so far?
Or are we just splitting hairs because the number of unearned runs given up pales in comparison to the ammount of runs these defensive players take off of the board. This stat could help identify which teams do this, since no current stat is of much use.
RF?
ZR?
please?!?!"
That part of ESPN is blocked at my work.
-Saint
He has a live chat right now.
by saint @ Athletics Nation on Aug 25, 2006 10:33 AM PDT reply actions
He's cranky today
SportsNation Rob Neyer: (12:34 PM ET ) If Pujols played in a real league he'd be lucky to bat .260 with 20 home runs.
VERY cranky
SportsNation Rob Neyer: (1:00 PM ET ) That's exactly what I'm saying. And if Neifie Perez played in the National League he'd bat .320 and draw 75 walks.
uh ...
i'm assuming/hoping that's part of the joke
It is a good joke:
Neifi "Could"
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/P/Neifi-Perez.shtml
I take that as SABER-Humor?
by saint @ Athletics Nation on Aug 25, 2006 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
eamb:
I may have two tickets for Monday Night. Send me an e-mail and I'll let you know.
by saint @ Athletics Nation on Aug 25, 2006 10:36 AM PDT reply actions
Nice!
I may have tow for Tuesday as well:
Two for Tuesday reminds me of my early clubbing days!!!
by saint @ Athletics Nation on Aug 25, 2006 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
two-fur Tuesday reminds me of ...
Fur DOES matter!
Payton and Kielty Clear Waivers
Flag wavers?
They're waiving on their use of The Clear.
Phoenix to win Penal Softball League
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2560224
does that make Albert a penal implant?
More of a penal ringer.
There's that piercing wit again!
by FreeSeatUpgrade on Aug 25, 2006 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
d'oh!
Prince Albert in the can.
Happy 40th birthday, Albert Belle.
i may be completely off topic, but why is the game
by littleA on Aug 25, 2006 11:21 AM PDT reply actions
i just went to their website.....or rather Cox
by littleA on Aug 25, 2006 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm really pissed off now.
But in an attempt to find an email address for KICU, I did find this really entertaining headline:
Boy Charged For Meowing At Neighbor Lady
MLB.tv trick.
About ten minutes before game time, load the game on MLB.tv. You will probably see a blue screen. Do not close the browser window or reload the game. There is a good chance that the game will start and you will be able to watch. However, if you reload the game or close the browser window and try to re-launch the A's game on MLB.tv when the game is in progress, you will get the blackout message. It has worked for me to watch the BOS-ANA game the last few nights, and it may work for you, too. The other option is to try MLB's Mosaic software. I don't think they've figured out all the blackout rules on the software and you can often watch a game that would otherwise be blacked out.
Thanks, I'll try that...
{dies laughing}
That'll teach him not to meow
Therer you go again
DJ is done in Oakland.
can you elaborate?
Well, they let him crush AAA pitching
what did he do to get on people's bad side?
by larrysgurl on Aug 25, 2006 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
He'd look good in
He can help us now
I think he just might stick around, though; Kotsay is the only outfielder we have signed next year. So the A's are either going to have to resign Bradley (likely) and Payton (not likely), get an FA outfielder, or move Swish back to the outfield--which opens up a spot for DJ.
Of course, we could target an OFer in a trade, too.
Correct me if I'm wrong,
That's correct
yep
if crosby isn't willing to change his swing in
by larrysgurl on Aug 25, 2006 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
My cursed Bobby Crosby bobblehead
By the way, how about a new reality show? Call it the "DL House" and employ all injured A's players for the cast. And you can give bit parts to minor league players!
by franks a lot on Aug 25, 2006 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I am just a bit depressed today. =(
by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Aug 25, 2006 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Confiscate their periods.
So Poppy, where is our Glossary.
for newbies.
by gotgreen on Wed Aug 09, 2006 at 10:13:43 AM PST
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Boy, me too...
We'll start with:
WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!! - phrase To be used when ANers are being particular dramatic about a situation.
<censored> - v To avoid the cuss jar.
"Why won't everyone do what I want???" ~SportySpice
by baseballgirl on Wed Aug 09, 2006 at 10:19:29 AM PST
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but then the cuss jar has to be explained...
...which leads to having to explain NRAFs... it would be never-ending...
They're urban raccoons, and they're not afraid.
by Poppy on Wed Aug 09, 2006 at 10:23:47 AM PST
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And the Segway, and the unicorn,
and "what's your f'n problem?," and the basement, and the...
Stat Wonk Futurist
by salb918 on Wed Aug 09, 2006 at 10:32:52 AM PST
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...sabermetric spork, and <AMPLE>, and...
<head explodes>
They're urban raccoons, and they're not afraid.
by Poppy on Wed Aug 09, 2006 at 10:37:35 AM PST
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HWY DOAN YOO GOE CHOO SUMM GUMM
... always a crowd-pleaser ...
A lonely monkey is a spiritually dead monkey. -- tankerraid @('.')@
by monkeyball on Wed Aug 09, 2006 at 11:11:00 AM PST
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What about:
<throws chair>?
by SD Erik on Wed Aug 09, 2006 at 11:11:49 AM PST
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tapir, betadine, <eats chair>...
Stat Wonk Futurist
by salb918 on Wed Aug 09, 2006 at 11:13:01 AM PST
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<sigh>
I sense an obsessive-compulsive weekend project coming on...
They're urban raccoons, and they're not afraid.
by Poppy on Wed Aug 09, 2006 at 11:20:55 AM PST
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by theblackpearl on Aug 25, 2006 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Check out that picture on the left side
by franks a lot on Aug 25, 2006 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, but just wait ...
Tastes like chicken!
The mf'n marmoset on the mf'n thumb tastes...
Yesterday, I went to my new optometrist...
"Why, yes. I am." I answered (wondering how he knew I liked the A's). "Are you an A's fan, too?"
"Yeah. I heard your name on the radio for a contest yesterday or the day before--I can't remember which."
"Really? Did I win?" (hoping against hope)
"Uh. No."
"Ahh...shucks! Oh, well."
Then I asked him if he knew about Athletics Nation and he didn't so I told him it was a real nice online community of funny, articulate and intelligent A's fans.
Okay, okay. I embellished a little!
Lineups posted already
J. Kendall C
M. Kotsay CF
M. Bradley RF
F. Thomas DH
E. Chavez 3B
J. Payton LF
N. Swisher 1B
M. Scutaro SS
M. Ellis 2B
TEXAS
GG. Matthews, Jr. CF
M. Young SS
C. Lee DH
M. Teixeira 1B
M. DeRosa RF
I. Kinsler 2B
H. Blalock 3B
R. Barajas C
J. Hairston, Jr. LF
Buck
(this year)
Laird Vs. LHP 1.138 OPS (!)
Barajas Vs. LHP .648 OPS
Not like him to buck the trend.
Curses!
here's a brief recap!
- the A's philosophy of taking pitches is good for his new club also, trying to get on base for the other guys to knock him in
- the reds clubhouse is similar to the A's, everybody gets along, beginning to see a change in the confidence factor with reds, exceeding expectations
- aaron harang has been their ace, growing into a mature #1 starter
- Bronson aaroyo, very into his guitar, he has played with guys like that (hmm, i wonder who?)
- text messages a lot of the A's to stay in the loop, checks box scores to keep up with the team
- has been able to stay away from injuries, a lot of it is also from luck
- the pinch hit homerun from the 20th consecutive win is the highlight of his career
i love hatteberg!!
by larrysgurl on Aug 25, 2006 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Garrison Keillor column on baseball
http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/features/deskofgk/2005/old_scout/
"(The skeptics and the devout) meet in certain places, such as here at the ballpark, and that is good, especially if we can keep our mouths shut. "
Good stuff...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Aug 25, 2006 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
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