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Two Out of Three Ain't Bad

Some random thoughts about the closing game...

  • Kenny Rogers owns the A's. And I hate that.

  • We held the Tigers' offense down until today, which was why winning yesterday's game--even only scoring two runs--was so important. Not to mention, we seem to have the personnel for the marathon-inning games; get to extras and it is truly a whole new game.

  • Saarloos was no match for the Tigers today. However, I'm not sure Halsey is the ultimate solution (that, of course, would be Harden). I'm seeing shades of Halsey's relief work when he came in for Saarloos his last time out-- 1.2 IP, 3ER, 2BB. But yes, it wouldn't have taken much to do better than `Loos today.

  • I think we need to hire food-tasters before our players have anything to eat. The A's are injury-prone enough without adding "food-poisoning" to the list of reasons players are scratched from the lineup.

  • I think I hate leadoff walks almost as much as anything else an opposing batter can do.

  • It is very important that we at least split the upcoming four-game series against LAAAA. With fans of our division rivals in Texas posting this, and Seattle fans ready to stage a mutiny against their manager, more and more, it appears that it's boiling down to us and the Angels for the second-half run, as Nico has predicted all along, and our offense, as it currently stands, is not good enough to sustain us the whole way.

  • I would think the A's short-term goal is to get to the All-Star break by playing .500 ball and reevaluate at that time.

  • What do you all think? Roster adjustment? A trade?

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Kielty
How about Kielty, he is quietly having a good season to the tune of an .844 OPS.
"Mommy and Daddy are going to take a nap before the baseball game starts..."

by Athletics fan and runner on Jul 5, 2006 3:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well...
...can he do it the whole way?

Will injuries/lack of consistancy prevent this?

Tony LaRussa:"If you have the horses, you'll win. If you don't, you'll lose." Me: "We're missing some ponies!"

by baseballgirl on Jul 5, 2006 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

food taster
yeah what is it with this food poisoning lately. maybe they need to become vegetarians.

by smasfan on Jul 5, 2006 3:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

food poisoning?
I missed the game thread, who is sick this time?
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 5, 2006 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Swish
His "flu-like symptoms" from yesterday are being called "food poisoning" today.
"WHAT IS LARRY DAVIS WEARING?!?!?! It's not tie-dyed!!!!" ~ gigglingone

by Poppy on Jul 5, 2006 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

aw crap
That's it, the players aren't allowed to eat anymore.
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 5, 2006 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he's just pregnant.
"WHAT IS LARRY DAVIS WEARING?!?!?! It's not tie-dyed!!!!" ~ gigglingone

by Poppy on Jul 5, 2006 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just as long
as none of his housemates get "flu-like symptoms".
hookem street

by hookem street on Jul 5, 2006 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Swisher
Was suppose to be in the starting line up at 1st, but the report said he had some kind of food poisoning..

by oaklandbbfan on Jul 5, 2006 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry
thought about that after i posted before. onions,sprouts,etc

by smasfan on Jul 5, 2006 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saarloos hasn't done well lately...
...but if game outcomes start to take a consistently negative course (and I'm not assuming they will), wouldn't it be interesting to bring up Jason Windsor? I like Saarloos, Halsey out of the pen, Kennedy will be back soon but I don't want any of them starting too much longer.
   So is Jason Windsor ready? He's gotten the publicity but is he our guy for the near future (before Zito leaves) or for 07'?
"I've been accused of using too many words...I suppose that's like accusing Mozart of using too many notes." Bill King

by Gerard on Jul 5, 2006 3:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Windsor could...
possibly step in and be an improvement over Saarloos/Halsey, but I think one of the main things holding him back will be his durability.

Windsor was incredibly overworked during his 2004 NCAA national championship run with Fullerton, and subsequently had arm fatigue and had to be shut down early last season. I think the A's brass, seeing that he could be a really valuable starter in the long-term, will probably want to make sure his arm can handle a full-season of professional ball before they thrust him onto the big stage, overwork him during a heated pennant race and have to shut him down early again.

by Taj Adib on Jul 5, 2006 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strict Pitch Counts
...and a healthy pen will allow the A's to feature his abilities. I agree, they don't want to burn out his arm. Everything I've read about his demeanor indicates he likes to battle out there on the mound. If, as advertised, he could step in next season and give our staff their next "ace". I don't recall him dealing with too many injuries which is also a plus at this point in his young career.

   In the playoffs I could envision him facing a few batters, but nothing beyond that at this time.

"I've been accused of using too many words...I suppose that's like accusing Mozart of using too many notes." Bill King

by Gerard on Jul 5, 2006 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's way too much "flu" in pro sport.
It's code for what (he asked, refusing to speculate, esp about the current player-in-Q)?  
Dribble a little water along, and we might be mistook for ducklings--Silas Adams

by The Dogfather on Jul 5, 2006 3:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Frequent Libations Undertaken
He's an intelligent man to talk to, but he smells like rat urine @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 5, 2006 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Food poisoning
the day after 4th of July?  Yeah, right.  Swisher needs to grow up - he's not a star yet.  And he doesn't deserve to be an all-star.  So far, he's just another guy who got hot for about 6 weeks, but he thinks that makes him special.  He has tons of potential, but hasn't separated himself from Brian Roberts, Chris Shelton, Clint Barmes, Lance Niekro or any other marginal pro who got hot for a short while.

by iceplant on Jul 5, 2006 3:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

swisher has been sick since monday. what does
him having a good first half have to do with him being sick?
"I thought it was cute," Oakland's Nick Swisher said of Kotsay's blast with the petal-colored bat

by larrysgurl on Jul 5, 2006 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ridiculous
I don't think Swish is to blame.  He is a good player who looks a hell of a lot better than Gammons' pick for MVP this year.  The guy CARRIED this team for a while and he deserves better from AN.  Crosby is also coming around so I really feel that they will both contribute in a big way post All-Star break.
"If you're surprised by getting the job done, that means you didn't expect it out of yourself." -Huston Street

by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 5, 2006 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it is ridiculous. you would think that players
should never get sick by the way some people talk here. i mean when chavez got sick it had to be that someone poisoned him. now when swisher is sick it's that he's really just been out partying and he has a 3 day hangover.
"I thought it was cute," Oakland's Nick Swisher said of Kotsay's blast with the petal-colored bat

by larrysgurl on Jul 5, 2006 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What kind of A's fan are you!!!!! The Green and
Gold, can walk on water.  Thou shalt not get sick, Thou shalt not go into a slump.  Why do you think we are on AN everyday, we can post when on our death bed.  Why can't these babied millionaires play with a little salmonella.

by theblackpearl on Jul 5, 2006 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm sorry i lost my head there for a minute.
"I thought it was cute," Oakland's Nick Swisher said of Kotsay's blast with the petal-colored bat

by larrysgurl on Jul 5, 2006 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

AN Notes:
larrysgurl's decapitation was deemed "short-term," and she's day-to-day.
"WHAT IS LARRY DAVIS WEARING?!?!?! It's not tie-dyed!!!!" ~ gigglingone

by Poppy on Jul 5, 2006 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Upgrade at First
They really need to make an upgrade at first base, I want DJ to succeed, but at his best he's a glorified Hatteberg, that just won't cut it on an everyday basis for a contending team.

The upgrade could happen if the form of a healthy Bradley next week, at which point Swisher moves to first, Bradley to right and Payton & Kielty platoon in left.  

If Beane is going to acquire a bat it would in this slot.

I'd bet that Beane is trying to find a bat, it won't be easy though, not with the depleted farm system.

by Dr Pez on Jul 5, 2006 3:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree totally
about moving swisher to 1st and bench DJ.  He has not shown an ability to adjust, and with no power he is not a legitimate 1st baseman.

by china bob on Jul 5, 2006 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All good except,
how about an outfield of Kielty, Payton and Bradley with KOTSAY rotating through?

by AlBowe on Jul 5, 2006 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The team values his defense too much?
"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." -- Connie Mack

by GreenSocks on Jul 6, 2006 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A Theory
on why the A's are hitting so badly. I was listening for just a few moments to the end of the game.  With the game all but over, Ray and Ken were so loose and relaxed and having a good time, despite the loss.  It got me thinking that the A's have had little chance to relax on the field. We all know they've played more one-run games than anyone. And few of the other games have been outright blowouts, one way or the other. Even wins with three-run leads have been nail biters.
So for the players, ever at-bat has become a big at bat. And this happens day after day after day. Their pitchers (usually) give them a great performance and they're under tremendous pressure to make every at bat perfect. That's a recipe for failure.

What's the solution? You got me.

(Maybe Beane should admit he overreacted and bring back the beer. I'm all for responsible drinking, but Beane's go-to-your-room-you're-grounded punishment  can't be helping.)

by SportySpice on Jul 5, 2006 3:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the hourglass
is running out on this one.  BB probably had no choice with the DUI and article coming out almost simultaneously.  Enough is enough.  These guys are grown men and they can handle a beer or two if they are of age.  
"If you're surprised by getting the job done, that means you didn't expect it out of yourself." -Huston Street

by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 5, 2006 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and so
are the days of our lives. he he

by smasfan on Jul 5, 2006 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

platoon
if theres any platooning to do...why not kotsay and bradley?  have the two injury-prone guys work their way back into good form.  payton and ronnie mac are the best hitters on this team right now. i'm tired of seeing a shallow kotsay have balls going over his head the hit the warning track.  and to think i thought kendall never hit a ball hard. kotsay has mastered the infield dribbler.  as for bradley if he only plays twice a week he has about a 200% better chance of not getting hurt; unless he trips over the water cooler or hurts himself with swish and their celebration routine

by KCB on Jul 5, 2006 4:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

even though today sucked i am very happy about
taking two of three from the best team in baseball.
"I thought it was cute," Oakland's Nick Swisher said of Kotsay's blast with the petal-colored bat

by larrysgurl on Jul 5, 2006 4:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i just heard that magglio ordonez is most likely
going to replace manny in the all star game.
"I thought it was cute," Oakland's Nick Swisher said of Kotsay's blast with the petal-colored bat

by larrysgurl on Jul 5, 2006 4:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bradley will start his rehab assignment with
the Rivercats in Salt Lake City on Friday. That's also the day Kennedy will throw a simulated game. And Macha hearts Gaudin.
"I almost landed in some lady's lap, which was kinda fun.'' -- Swish

by Sharon on Jul 5, 2006 4:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ken?
Is that you? :)

by Jennifer on Jul 5, 2006 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know
sometimes when a player has so much domination over a team, that team already feels defeated.  Maybe that's why we can't beat Kenny.

I also think the inactivity of Saarloos does not help him when he is the starting pitcher. Macha knows what the rotation is and if he is not going to use him for awhile then he should give him the opportunity to pitch.

Another beef I have with our team is I think they take way too many pitches.  I mean are these other teams that good of guessers that they know what the pitch is so they are able to hit it?  I'd like to see the team being a little more aggressive.  At least most of them because I know that Kendall will not change.

I agree that this next series is important.  Just to see the A's at .500 will be good but I hope Beane takes a hard look at this team and its needs and pulls the trigger on a move to benefit this team,even if it is only for this year I would be happy.

hookem street

by hookem street on Jul 5, 2006 4:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

taking pitches
Huh?  I was just thinking the total opposite as it seems we are always swinging early in the count.  DJ is the only player who constantly takes a pitch but maybe that is why he ends up 0-2 nearly every AB.  

Kotsay and Payton are great players when they are going good but when they aren't... I feel like smacking them over the head with a frying pan when they constantly swing at the first pitch.  Especially after someone just walked before them and the pitcher is showing no control.

"If you're surprised by getting the job done, that means you didn't expect it out of yourself." -Huston Street

by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 5, 2006 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Use the Jesus Pan to hit them over the heads...
If you can't put the fear of God into 'em, put the fry of Jesus into 'em.
"the reason why hitting the ball on the "sweet spot" of the bat feels so good is that the ball is contacting at the bat at a vibrational node." - salb918

by McFood on Jul 5, 2006 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quote
of the month nominee...LOL!

by asfaninTX on Jul 5, 2006 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It seemed to me that
the last few weeks have been more taking pitches with the exception of Chavy who is in an obvious funk.  I do agree that there are other times when they swing way too much.

My other beef is that I think the relievers should go right at hitters more.  When they have 0-2 counts don't throw a waste pitch just so have the sucker.

hookem street

by hookem street on Jul 5, 2006 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Add Kendall to the list
that never swings at a first pitch but agree with you on Kotsay and Payton, they could definetely use a little more plate discipline. Swisher takes a lot of pitches, Chavez flails wildly at 1st pitches also.

by china bob on Jul 5, 2006 4:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My complaint is that...
there just aren't enough people complaining about the team. How can we expect them to perform if we don't complain long and loud about them?
"the reason why hitting the ball on the "sweet spot" of the bat feels so good is that the ball is contacting at the bat at a vibrational node." - salb918

by McFood on Jul 5, 2006 4:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And we also need
more complaining about complaining! That's why you're not clutch, McFood. You just don't have heart. :-P
Stephen Colbert: "Kids who look up to athletes become athletes themselves."
The Word: Or bitter sports journalists.

by JLaff on Jul 5, 2006 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

{poisons McFood}
"WHAT IS LARRY DAVIS WEARING?!?!?! It's not tie-dyed!!!!" ~ gigglingone

by Poppy on Jul 5, 2006 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

<applies grip tape to Jesus Pan handle>
"the reason why hitting the ball on the "sweet spot" of the bat feels so good is that the ball is contacting at the bat at a vibrational node." - salb918

by McFood on Jul 5, 2006 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

annoying
i never feel comfortable with Sarloos on the mound.

I feel Beane will have serious evaluating to do in the next three weeks as the deadline looms.

1. The rotation. Zito and Haren are rocks, and it's doubtful Rich Harden can return and have a serious impact (see Will Carrol's quote posted in various places here on AN). Blanton is a question mark, he's very inconsistent. Loaiza is the same. If they can both put a few QS's before the deadline, i think we'll be solid. I hate Sarloos as a 5th starter. He's admirable and all, but i just don't have any confidence in him. I think Beane would do better to shop for a decent starter at the deadline. Another option i like is calling up Jason Windsor. I love his attitude, and i feel he can handle the rigors of late season pressure play (see: CWS).

2.The offense obviously. Bradley will come back, but for how long? Will Chavez get healthy. Here's how i view things:

At expectations: I think we know what we will get out of Frank Thomas. We know what we'll get from Kendall too (not that it's a good thing). And i feel that once Swisher feels better and clears his head, he'll be a 900 OPS hitter again.

But there are too many question marks:

A)If Bradley is back, i have faith he'll be effective. But when willl he be actally healthy?

B)When will Chavez be fully healthy? I'm confident he'll be effective again providing he's close to 100 percent. He seems to me like he's around 75 percent right now.

C)The outfield-Keilty and Payton are riding hot streaks, but they have shown throughout their careers that they cant sustain this type of production for a whole year. I'm more confident that Kielty will continue to be solid, but not great. Kotsay is a question mark, as he's a mediocre hitter with back problems that inhibit his great defense. That constitutes a problem. I think Beane would do well to deal Payton for some pitching.

D)Middle Infield-Will Ellis catch fire again? He just seems like a different hitter to me, i hope he proves me wrong though. Crosby is lost. Lost in a sense that i won't begin to expect things out of him anymore. It's just frustrating. They are a great defensive infield and question marks on offense. I don't have particularly strong faith in either of them.

E)Dan Johnson. I think he fooled us with a little spurt, but i don't see him being what we need him to be: An 850 OPS first baseman with consistency. Beane would do well to acquire a hitter as well (and the player i'm thinking of has been bounced around on AN)

Basically the offense is almost all question marks.

Here's what i do:

Trade Jay Payton for a decent starting pitcher that is a free agent next year (for some draft picks). If the Rangers decide to give up on the season come july 31st, i have a nice little idea: Yanks get Payton, Texas gets Tyler Clippard and A's get Adam Eaton who is rehabbing now...

Trade for the aforementioned Craig Wilson. Just do it. You may have to use Windsor, but it won't be too big a price. A) He's not playing there and B) He's a free agent next year.

On the flipside, i'd look into acquiring the struggling Juan Pierre. He's also a free agent next year, and i think one of the things the A's truly need is a leadoff hitter. Yes his OBP is horrendous so far this year, but his track record shows he's a good hitter.

Which brings me to: Shop Mark Kotsay. He likes Southern California... what about the Angels? He can be Darin Erstad 2.0. Get a decent prospect, perhaps an Erick Aybar. A's need to shed this salary.

I'd like this:

Pierre (CF)
Swisher (LF)
Chavez
Thomas
Bradley (RF)
Johnson (1B)
Crosby (SS)
Ellis
Kendall

Rotation:

Zito
Haren
Blanton
Loaiza
Eaton

Kielty is the fourth outfielder who should get solid playing time. The bench pretty much stays the same. If we acquire Craig Wilson, it'd be pretty nice. Johnson would be relegated to backup (or even used to acquire Wilson/traded for prospects). The A's save some cash by dealing Kotsay's contract (surely boosting the odds of offering Zito a contract) and Payton, acquire two players who are likely type A free agents. Also add a solid MI prospect.

Another way to go is to get Marcus Giles, another struggling but legit leadoff hitter. He's a good defender as well. Antonio Perez can be dealt, with Scutaro and Ellis playing the role of backup (and one of them can play third if Chavvy is out an extended period).

Pierre
Giles
Chavez
Thomas
Swisher
Bradley
Crosby
Johnson
Kendall

July 11th... My.....Space?

by ohad on Jul 5, 2006 4:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Pierre's track record
is why Florida delt him in the first place.  This is the second straight year he's had a sub-par OBP.  There is no reason to deal for an average defensive CF with a Johnny Damon-like arm who can't get on base.

by IndianaAsfan on Jul 5, 2006 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I second the no-go on Pierre
I really don't like his D. I mean, he may be fast, but stealing bases isn't really our thing. Not yet at least.

Random, out of left field name - Kerry Wood. Buy low? Reliever? Just out of total curiosity. His contract ends this year.

Stephen Colbert: "Kids who look up to athletes become athletes themselves."
The Word: Or bitter sports journalists.

by JLaff on Jul 5, 2006 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With Harden and Wood...
we'll have the best rotation on the DL for sure!
"the reason why hitting the ball on the "sweet spot" of the bat feels so good is that the ball is contacting at the bat at a vibrational node." - salb918

by McFood on Jul 5, 2006 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

then send 'em both to the Yankees
Rotation: Harden/Wood/Johnson/Wang
He's an intelligent man to talk to, but he smells like rat urine @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 5, 2006 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Play Milton in CF
And Pierre in left then. Pierre has always had great BB/K ratios, and he would add another dimension to the A's: a real threat on the basepaths. Over his career his SB percentage is 74, well over the 67 percent threshold. Perhaps the A's would be more willing to let him run. I just really wanted the A's to have a dynamic leadoff hitter.
July 11th... My.....Space?

by ohad on Jul 5, 2006 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

am i the only one that thinks the leadoff position
is overrated. i mean obviously you don't want kotsay batting leadoff when he's in an 0-30 slump, but the leadoff guy is only the leadoff guy once a game.
"I thought it was cute," Oakland's Nick Swisher said of Kotsay's blast with the petal-colored bat

by larrysgurl on Jul 5, 2006 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not with our offense lately. The leadoff man
leads off, every 3rd inning. 9 up 9 down.

by theblackpearl on Jul 5, 2006 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With his OBP
I don't care what his bb/k ratio is - he doesn't get on base.  The job of a leadoff man is to get on base, and he doesn't do it often enough.  The Cubs offense is terrible, and Pierre's inability to get on base plays a huge role in that.

by IndianaAsfan on Jul 9, 2006 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm
i started my comment when there were two responses... my response took a long time....
July 11th... My.....Space?

by ohad on Jul 5, 2006 4:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL
Hey, at least it was a long response that took you a long time to type.  I'm always typing one or two lines, getting distracted before I hit "post," and then finding that by the time I post it, nine other people have said the same thing, or something way better...  ;)
"WHAT IS LARRY DAVIS WEARING?!?!?! It's not tie-dyed!!!!" ~ gigglingone

by Poppy on Jul 5, 2006 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I took a break in the middle
of reading it, then came back to finish it.  Good as any ideas I've seen.  Something has gotta change.   Just grateful that we are in the thick of it with one hand tied behind our back so far.
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...in 2006?...prove it.

by ak_A on Jul 5, 2006 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dumpmaster?
Why are those Rangers fans calling DeRosa the Dumpmaster?

by znk916 on Jul 5, 2006 5:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Apparently it's not because he dumps in base hits
http://lonestarball.com/story/2006/2/16/12812/1474
Brian Hayes at Newberg's board starting calling him that.

Because last year, in spring training, apparently, one of the players said on a radio interview that Mark DeRosa was notorious within the clubhouse for taking the worst dumps on the team.


by znk916 on Jul 5, 2006 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, the Rangers fans have taught me a
valuable lesson.....when apparently are not the only ones to freak out when our team does badly.  Season over? wow! thats harsh, and I thought we where vicious for calling for Macha's retirement.
"They don't wanna get smacked upside the head with the Jesus Pan" - Poppy

by Amnesiac727 on Jul 5, 2006 5:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hey
At least Macha knows how to pronounce Gaudin's name. Wait. No he doesn't.

That old senile idiot.

"I'm going to get it right sooner or later," Macha claimed after Tuesday's game

Ok ok. Macha "said" that, i just changed it to "claimed".

July 11th... My.....Space?

by ohad on Jul 5, 2006 5:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Looking back...
...Kielty was really good today. If he or Jay Payton could just play like that with any kind of consistancy, we might not have to worry about one outfield spot.
Tony LaRussa:"If you have the horses, you'll win. If you don't, you'll lose." Me: "We're missing some ponies!"

by baseballgirl on Jul 5, 2006 5:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow...
You mean that the A's have someone batting over .300 - Now that is newsworthy... he definitely has earned himself some playing time.

Macha should make a deal with him: "You play everyday while you are batting over .300, no questions asked..."

by SD Erik on Jul 5, 2006 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, Billy should make a deal with him
As in, your hot streak may have convinced a desperate team you can sustain that .300, so I'm trading you to Florida for Dontrelle plus cash.
"I don't want to 'Wear It.' It doesn't match my shoes." --Jennifer

by FreeSeatUpgrade on Jul 5, 2006 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm happy for kielty. after being sent down to
the minor leagues he's done a good job of proving he belongs here.
"I thought it was cute," Oakland's Nick Swisher said of Kotsay's blast with the petal-colored bat

by larrysgurl on Jul 5, 2006 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see the A's
take a shot at Broussard. He's not great--something the A's can't afford in money or talent lost--but he's very, very good vs. RHP, and platooned with Kielty would make an outstanding hitter. Broussard would also be under contract for more than just 2006 and is rumored to be available. I wonder what he would cost in terms of talent...

But Dan Johnson just isn't cutting it--besides the aggregate .250 average (a combination of a .000 average plus a .350 average plus a .200 average), he is on pace to HR 12 times, and he is part of the "no doubles offense" plaguing the A's. A team with Kendall at C and Kotsay in CF can't withstand that.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 5, 2006 5:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i agree. it's time to let swish play 1st base full
time and let kielty and jaypay platoon in the outfield.
"I thought it was cute," Oakland's Nick Swisher said of Kotsay's blast with the petal-colored bat

by larrysgurl on Jul 5, 2006 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Broussard scares me
It's a good argument you make, but he screams LH Byrnes to me -- bound to fall back to his career perf levels.
He's an intelligent man to talk to, but he smells like rat urine @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 5, 2006 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

chavez espn all-star commercial
this is probably covered already (i did try searching for it here) but errr, was that chavez in the ESPN all-star commercial?  i had to pause tivo and go back several times saying to myself "that is chavez jumping up for that ball, right?  #3.  yeah, that's him.  wtf?!?"  i guess people really do assume he's a perennial all-star?  are my eyes playing tricks on me?  did he do work specifically for that commercial?

by Eric in Atlanta on Jul 5, 2006 6:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Finally.
I finally remembered (okay, it was my dad) who Brandon Inge reminds me of.

Walter

Brandon

by Jennifer on Jul 5, 2006 7:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That is kind of creepy.
"I almost landed in some lady's lap, which was kinda fun.'' -- Swish

by Sharon on Jul 5, 2006 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we take 3 of 4 from the Angels;
And the Twins take 2 of 3 from the Rangers (Liriano and Santana will both pitch);

And the Tigers take 2 of 3 from the Mariners;

Then we'll be 3 up on the Rangers, and more than that on the other two teams. Then, we'll get Bradley back after the break, get out of July at or near the top of the division, and then pull away in August.

Check out A's/Angels schedules some time. We have a brutal second half of July; theirs is soft. We have a soft August; theirs is brutal.

The A's just need to take 3 of 4 this weekend, and then, in my opinion, the division is essentially clinched.

It's time to start thinking about the playoff roster.

And there you go, I think I've "broken it down" about as well as any sportstalk radio caller could.

You're welcome.

by RLangford on Jul 5, 2006 8:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow.
So much has to go right for all that to happen...but i believe!
Nick Swisher...is he amazing?

by Daveed on Jul 5, 2006 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

First of all, I was joking
But what the hell. I'll continue

Remember, all that has to happen is that we have to take 3 of 4 from the Angels.

If that happens this weekend, start making plans for the playoffs because we're in. It's a stone-cold lock--if we take 3 or 4.

by RLangford on Jul 5, 2006 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Knock knock."
"Who's there?"
"The Angels."
"Crap."
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 5, 2006 8:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's like the SNL
skit with the Shark...

"Knock knock"
"Who's there?"
"Candygram"
"They still make those?"

Like with the shark, don't be fooled - opening the door will only lead to bad things.

Can intangibles exist? Only the ones you can touch.

by salb918 on Jul 5, 2006 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Angels
They may be reassessing their chances.  The good Weaver is back (I'll get to see him Saturday, as I'm going to that game).  That's one sign.

I don't take the Mariners seriously.  The Rangers have a bad history of wilting in the summer heat.  The Angels... blecch.  This upcoming series is important.

by bear88 on Jul 5, 2006 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mariners
I take the Mariners seriously.  They've got some problems, but they're our one real rival in the division.  Next year I think they're the favorite for the division.

by iglew on Jul 6, 2006 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't know how credible, but
Shawn Green is rumored (Ken Rosenthal) to be on the trading block. He's hitting .310 this year with a surprisingly low 8 HRs (has 303 HRs career in 13 seasons), He's currently 34 years old. Career average, OBP, and slugging pct: .283/.356/.505

I'm curious whether or not he piques people's interest, and if it does, what people think it would take to get him from Arizona.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 5, 2006 8:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Problem - $$$
He's owed 4 MM for the remainder of the season, 9.5 MM next year, and has a 2 MM buyout of his 2008 option.  He also has a no-trade clause to all teams except LAA, LAD, and SD.  My guess is that he waives his NTC only if the option is exercised.

Pass.  (Sadly, he -- like Craig Wilson -- would be one of the best hitters on our team.)

Can intangibles exist? Only the ones you can touch.

by salb918 on Jul 5, 2006 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the flip side,
it sounds like he wants to be on the West Coast, and with a team that is in contention. We satisfy both. The money doesn't seem outrageous for his credentials. I'd be more concerned about how much we'd have to give up to get him than I would be the NTC or the salary.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 5, 2006 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which sucks more?
His .310 average this season, or his 23 HR/year the past 3 seasons? He doesn't "suck"--we may not be able to afford him, or afford to trade what Arizona will want for him, but he is a very solid player who would upgrade our current offense.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 5, 2006 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn I knew I would have to elaborate
IMO he's been putting up empty stats since a few years ago.  Take a quick look at his situational stats over the past few years and notice how anemic his SLG% is with runners on and RISP since 2004.  I mean he's not god-awful, but he's hardly even a shell of what he used to be say 5 years ago.  

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5179/situational;_ylt=AiVvTE2RonNjVrAMX9jksf2FCLcF?year=2006& ;type=Batting

by znk916 on Jul 5, 2006 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The stats just show
that Green would be a perfect match for our team, since the rest of our hitters never get on base.

Seriously, he's certainly past his prime and is in that "Aubrey Huff" area of being better than average but not "Wow" exciting. Which is why we could actually hope to get him. We would be rolling the dice that he will improve (change of scenery + pennant race) or at least stay where he is, rather than going Gant-Karros on us.

At 34, I'd say the odds are in our favor, and that most importantly he would instantly become one of the better hitters in our lineup.

I'm not advocating that we go trade for him, though--just suggesting it's not a crazy name to throw out there.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 5, 2006 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

<yaks down anti crow-hopping pill>
makes sense to me.  i mean what the hell.
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...in 2006?...prove it.

by ak_A on Jul 5, 2006 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would be Kendall all over again
No more washed up retread overpaid vets please.  I can't think of any names but I'd much rather target 'late bloomer' types, like Justin Morneau or Brandon Phillips this year.  Felipe Lopez from last year comes to mind as well.  In other words, top prospects who for whatever reason didn't immediately pan out and were viewed as somewhat disappointing.  

by znk916 on Jul 5, 2006 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

uh-huh
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...in 2006?...prove it.

by ak_A on Jul 6, 2006 4:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you can hardly say
That Bobby Crosby didn't pan out... That's ridiculous at this point.
July 11th... My.....Space?

by ohad on Jul 6, 2006 5:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He left out a key word
I said immediately pan out, so unfortunately I would have to agree that Crosby does fall into this category.

Actually I shouldn't have included Morneau in the names above, since the Twins held onto him despite his disappointing '05 season.  However I think it's very interesting to note that they slotted him 6th from the start of the year, and kept him there until early last month when they actually demoted him to 7th for a few games because he was struggling.  Predictably he busted out with a couple huge games, and earned a promotion up to the 5th slot where he has been for the past month.  

In contrast, Macha has had Crosby batting in the heart of the order (3 through 5) pretty much all season long, despite the fact that he hardly deserves such a spot based on his production.  Sure he got hot for a few weeks last year, but that's hardly enough production to merit an automatic spot in the heart of the order.  It looked like a smart move at the time when he was going well, but isn't there such a thing as playing yourself out of a spot?  Especially for a young player without a proven track record to fall back on?

Granted it's not like we have significantly better options, but we do have veteran options (Payton is an obvious choice at the moment given his hot right-handed bat) at the least and I think it would really benefit Crosby's development if we dropped him back to 6th or 7th and took the pressure off him.  Really, would it hurt to do so considering how awful our offense already is?  

Unless Beane is calling all the shots from upstairs, I think Macha should get alot of the blame for how he's handled Crosby.  Anyone else remember how slowly we brought along Tejada or Chavez long ago?  

Just to throw another name out there, the Mets buried David Wright for the first half of last year in the 6th and 7th slots.  Granted alot of people were killing Wille Randolph for burying him there when he was arguably already the most consistent hitter on the team, but you look at the stats now and it sure looks like Willie did the right thing in making Wright earn his way into a spot in the heart of the order.

This should've been a diary but uh yeah...maybe someone reads this.

by znk916 on Jul 6, 2006 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

excellent points
Generally, I don't think batting order matters a whole lot (outside the general principles of good batters = high in the order, and judicious L/R//patient/aggressive balance), but you make the most compelling and complete argument I've seen for batting Crosby lower.
He's an intelligent man to talk to, but he smells like rat urine @('.')@

by monkeyball on Jul 6, 2006 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You thought that was compelling
Try these two arguements.

1) Crosby has batted 209/223/308 in 91 AB in the #3 spot. He's hit 271/349/406 in 192 AB when batting anywhere else in the line-up.

OR

2) Oaktoon thought it was a good idea for Crosby to bat 3rd in the line-up.

If neither of those points can convince you that Crosby should not bat 3rd, than nothing will.

Why yes. I am a ray of warm and fuzzy sunshine.

by grover on Jul 6, 2006 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree
With all of it!

I saw that rumor and thought about us as well. I also agree that he's been putting up a fairly empty .300 avg built on singles for awhile now. I think we'd have to get used to seeing a lot of grounders and popouts w/ men in scoring position and accept the fact that we'd never see any extra-base hits......wait a second!!!!!!

That being said, he would immediately become our best hitter. Go A's!!!!

I'll try not to swear.

by Tony on Jul 5, 2006 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ethier is great!!!
hit his 6th hr tonight

its funny, he was struggling until the dodgers series in oakland, A's series got him back on track. maybe bradley can play a week healthy, i'll settle for a healthy series

by CaliAsFan on Jul 5, 2006 9:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A matter of when not if
They need to make a move. The division is up for grabs at this point to any one of the four teams.

I 'm with some of the above posts in that Swish needs to be the starting 1B. Send DJ to the bench and ride Kielty and Payton while they are warm/hot. Macha also needs to at least make an attempt to bunch the hot hitters together in the lineup. There's no harm in dropping Kotsay or Swish while they are struggling.

The question is where the team needs and addition - pitching or offense? If we can get an OF or 1B.

by Gabriels Daddy on Jul 5, 2006 11:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Pepto Bismol?
Nausea, Heartburn, Indigestion, Upset Stomach...Curtis Granderson?
"Who needs a significant other when you've got baseball highlights on ESPN?"

by Amnesiac727 on Jul 6, 2006 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ellis has a Granderson-sized growth on his knee...
Listed as day-today.
"I've got a pizza that I didn't finish from last night, and I've got a video game that I can't beat, but tonight, I'm going to beat that game." Greg Maddux

by Elvez on Jul 6, 2006 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How the hell did DJ win the triple crown at Sacto?
Didn't he do it twice? Or was he MVP twice? Either way....where is THAT GUY???? I can't belive he's turned out to be such a slapdick! When he first came up, I thought he looked like a pure hitter. He always appeared to have a good approach, and I actually felt calm and confident during is ABs, not like the rest of the team when I feel Armageddon is just a low and outside fastball away.
I'll try not to swear.

by Tony on Jul 5, 2006 11:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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