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NEWS FLASH: A'S BIDDING FOR SORIANO!!

Leave it to Billy to shock the world, but Jayson Stark has just reported on ESPN that the A's are now in bidding for Soriano, whether it is in a straight deal or a 3 way combo where Soriano may or may not be coming here, he does not say.

All I can say is that we have a .220 hitting 2Bman and a .230 hitting SS-- put Soriano at 2nd; play whichever between Scutaro, Ellis or Crosby is hitting best at SS;-- and roll the friggin' dice.

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Yes, we know, we know
its all over the Daily Link Dump...

Infact, maybe we need an Open Trade Discussion thread...

by Zonis on Jul 31, 2006 9:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

From CBS Sportsline
The Los Angeles Angels, Minnesota Twins and a surprise team -- the Oakland Athletics -- have emerged as the three finalists in the Alfonso Soriano chase with less than five hours to go until Monday's 4 p.m. ET, sources with knowledge of the negotiations told CBS SportsLine.com.

It is unknown whether the A's would keep Soriano or re-package him in another deal. Oakland GM Billy Beane has a history of working three-way deals -- though if the A's are going for it this year, Soriano makes sense because Oakland's offense is borderline anemic and third baseman Eric Chavez has been battling forearm tendinitis and is having a down year offensively.  

The eleventh-hour emergence of Oakland in the talks ranks as bombshell news -- and news that could have huge ramifications in the AL West race with the first-place A's leading second-place Los Angeles by only half a game in the standings.

The Athletics rank last in the majors with a .249 team batting average and .393 slugging percentage. Though Soriano almost certainly would be a short-timer in Oakland -- the A's will not be able to afford him on this winter's free-agent market -- under the creative Beane, the A's could either use Soriano to make a strong playoff push or re-direct him elsewhere

"If my uniform doesn't get dirty, I haven't done anything in the baseball game." - Rickey Henderson

by Durden on Jul 31, 2006 9:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder
if DJ's explosion in AAA helped put the A's back in these talks, as well as Komine's showing yesterday.

DJ, Windsor and a catcher for soriano?

That's a lot for two months, but may trump whatever the twins and Angels are offering.

This may be BB's greatest trade deadline coup yet. Or at least he'll drive up the Angels' price.

oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jul 31, 2006 9:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Discussed at length
in DLD
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 31, 2006 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

who cares??
Some of us have time to read the whole thing, and some of us don't.

Obviously, i didn't-- so take your Diary Police narc atttitude and shove it.

You don;t think a development as big as this might not deserve its own thread??

oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jul 31, 2006 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe the rest of us don't have time
to read your diary.

like 40 people saw this and posted in the DLD, of course oaktoon has to make it into a diary.  with all caps.  and two exclamation marks.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 31, 2006 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love it....
NUCLEAR BOMB DROPPED ON NEW YORK!!!

(Already discussed in DLD)

oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jul 31, 2006 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're right
every time there's a small news report that the a's are "in the bidding" for a player, we should create a diary.

A'S BIDDING FOR MADDUX!!

A'S BIDDING FOR MILLEGE!!

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 31, 2006 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

gosh, do you realize how ridiculous you seem??
Nobody saw this coming.

Not me, not you, not everyone at AN day yesterday who reported that Beane said "ALl's quiet on the trading front", etc..

He is the #1 target in the market right now.

He could single-handedly make our offense good enough to not just win the division, but also conceivably contend in the postseason. And if we don't get him, and the Angels do, the reverse could easily be true.

And you think it doesn't deserve mention with 4 hours to go before the deadline?

NEWS FLASH: we aren't bidding for Maddux or Milledge right now.

oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jul 31, 2006 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

saw what coming?
"Nobody saw this coming."

saw what coming?
a trade rumor?  at the trading deadline?

i'm bored with mocking you, i'll save it for 1:01pm when soriano is still not on the a's.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 31, 2006 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree
i can't possibly see soriano on the a's. i suspect its all part of a multi-team trade to help us replenish the farm system if we win, or to force the halos to give up a lot more than they wanted if we lose. but ultimately, i see a 5% chance of soriano actually being on oakland by the deadline. could be wrong, but i think he's way overvalued and overrated and could be spun for much more talent.
"welcome to ME, motherf*^*er!" - tim hudson

by guy incognito on Jul 31, 2006 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think OP just
wanted to point you to the place on the blog where we were discussing the trade.  You might be interested in what others at this site think.  You're a real bucket of joy telling others to shove it when they're trying to help you out.

As for DJ, I don't see why the Nats would want him.  They have Nick Johnson locked up to a reasonable contract and play in a non-DH league.  

Can intangibles exist? Only the ones you can touch.

by salb918 on Jul 31, 2006 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It deserves its own thread...
Period.

This is an ongoing story that may have new developments, and shouldn't be buried in what is, in essence, just a commentary on the morning papers.

oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jul 31, 2006 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying it doesn't deserve its
own thread.  It probably does.  You just don't need to be so upset when someone tries to point you in the direction of a community discussion on the topic you just created a diary on.  Jesus.
Can intangibles exist? Only the ones you can touch.

by salb918 on Jul 31, 2006 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's because...
Soriano and Nick Johnson,

for,

Windsor, DJ, and Prospect-to-be-Named-Later...

Maybe?

COME ON, OAKLAND, COME ON!

by Colorado Fan on Jul 31, 2006 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree
I think Nick Johnson might be the secret acquisition here, not Soriano. We spin Soriano to the Sox or Yanks or Tigers, we get Nick Johnson and prospects.

by Crosbino on Jul 31, 2006 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That sounds more like Beane
Nick Johnson strikes me as a "Holy Grail" type player. And since this is the "if healthy" refrain year, I can say, "If healthy, Nick Johnson would be an awesome pickup, for now and later," along with anyone that spinning Soriano might yield (prospects to replenish our minor league system?).
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2006 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question of health
Are we cornering the market on perpetually hurt plyaers who display occasional moments of brilliance when healthy???

Nick Johnson will fit in great with Milton, and Frank, and Rich, and Eric, and ...

by Crosbino on Jul 31, 2006 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They tend to be available
at a price we can afford. I just wish we had also rolled the dice on Nomar!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2006 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what big development?
what exactly is the big development that deserves its own thread?  

did we get soriano?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 31, 2006 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, please.
You people are so tiresome.
oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jul 31, 2006 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no big news here, no real news at all
soriano isn't coming to the a's.  get over it.

how long have you been following beane at the a's that you don't realize this?

if soriano is in an a's uniform by 1pm today, i'll never criticize another oaktoon diary again.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 31, 2006 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Standard response
Whenever someone points out that Oaktoon has it wrong, it becomes "Some people crap on everything I say" or "you people are so tiresome."

Never substance, just spin.

"I smell like a meadow." - Yuniesky Betancourt

by Ozzz on Jul 31, 2006 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow..what the hell is your deal?
I posted that so you could read it.  I wasnt being a police anything...I could give a shit if you post a diary..Thought you might have some interest in what everyone was saying.

My god, overreact much?

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 31, 2006 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know it's a rhetorical question, but...
you: "My god, overreact much?"

oaktoon: "NEWS FLASH: A'S BIDDING FOR SORIANO!!"

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 31, 2006 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha..
Point taken.  I was really trying to let him know it was discussed if he wanted to read it....and he flipped.  
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 31, 2006 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry, I assumed
since everyone else who does what you do seem to do it with a sneer and a "don't want to be bothered" attitude-- "it's in the DLD, don't you see, you fool?"

So I apologize for assuming that you were the same as the poster below you.

oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jul 31, 2006 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I had meant...
"it's in the DLD, don't you see, you fool?".....I would have said that.  No reason to assume I was being a dick...I really dont care how many diaries anyone posts....no biggie to me.  Just thought you would be interested to read all the commentary.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 31, 2006 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect it's a 3-way deal
but if we got Soriano, I'd put him at SS, move BoCro to 2B, and have Ellis as the backup infielder. I love Ellis and Scutaro, but we need more production in the lineup, and I'm more comfortable with Ellis as the backup than with Scutaro.
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jul 31, 2006 10:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Huh?
Soriano at short and Crosby at 2nd? Why not the other way around? Soriano is bad enough at second; can't imagine what he would be like at short.

If we got him (doubtful, but who knows?), I think he would stay in the outfield with Swish moving to first full-time and putting Payton on the bench.

"You are not very good, Dad. You always lose." --Dylan

by dylantravis on Jul 31, 2006 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was a SS in the Yankees' farm system...
then, like the player he was later traded for, switched positions to accommodate the Captain.
I am no drunkard, I'm a hard-working man.

by Cutthemullet on Jul 31, 2006 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not to mention...
to fill the hole at 2B that was created when Knoblauch started hitting old women in the stands with his 60-foot throws to first more often than he did the first baseman.
I am no drunkard, I'm a hard-working man.

by Cutthemullet on Jul 31, 2006 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

however...
I don't remember if his minor league defense at SS was BJ Upton-like, I suspect it may have been
I am no drunkard, I'm a hard-working man.

by Cutthemullet on Jul 31, 2006 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Agree with Toon
This deserves its own diary.

by Crosbino on Jul 31, 2006 10:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I third that...
No question trade discussions in general needed a new thread...
"Christ, evidentally I played against Swisher in '02 when he was at OSU and Granderson when he was at Illinois-Chicago."

by compy75 on Jul 31, 2006 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it did...
...but that's no reason to be inexcusably rude to someone who simply pointed out where to find the current discussion of the topic!!
"I'm living in a cuckoo clock!" ~HollywoodOz
"I'm your huckleberry." ~grover

by baseballgirl on Jul 31, 2006 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

see above bgirl
I apologized to Oakpower for assuming he was as dismissive as most of the people who reach out to smite you down when you unwittingly create a thread that is already been discussed.

As for a couple of others who have poked their heads into this, I now know why I overreacted to Oaktownpower, since they are simple beyond the pale with hate and superciliousness.

oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jul 31, 2006 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right. It's all our fault.
Couldn't be yours, for not checking the link dump before you posted your three line, exclamation-filled diary.

It's ours, for not wanting to have to check two diaries for posts about one (at this point non) story.

"I smell like a meadow." - Yuniesky Betancourt

by Ozzz on Jul 31, 2006 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

God....
you are such a friendly human being.

I think this entire issue is pretty revealing.

There is nothing sacrosanct about the link dump. If someone has already started a diary about Subject A-- and it is obvious in the title-- then someone posting a new diary on the very same subject does have the responsibility to check and see and try no0t to duplicate efforts.

But when a discussion over a subject-- and particularly one as germane and potentially vital as this one-- is buried in another place, with no evidence that it exists, how can you blame someone for starting a new thread-- particularly if that person just read the information and could safely presume no one at AN knew about it yet??

I mean for anyone to say, in effect, "since you weren't playing ball with us on our field, you had better not start your own game" is a foolish point of view. And the fact that you piled on is hardly a surprise.

oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jul 31, 2006 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Friendly human being?
I'm not the one telling people to "stick it".

I understand that your ass stings from all the kickings you've taken over the last week plus, but here's the reality of the situation:

You were informed that your diary was recreating efforts already taken elsewhere, and instead of saying something that a nice human being might say, like, "oh, sorry about that. I can delete this one or we can shift the discussion here - whatever works for you guys," you blew chunks out of the guy that pointed it out.

YOU resorted to name calling.
YOU did the wrong thing.
YOU can't take the heat, yet you insist on setting up camp in the kitchen.

So if you only ever take on piece of advice from me, sparky, take this one: Think before you kick.

"I smell like a meadow." - Yuniesky Betancourt

by Ozzz on Jul 31, 2006 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oaktoon often reminds me of...
..a certain cartoon dog.
"I smell like a meadow." - Yuniesky Betancourt

by Ozzz on Jul 31, 2006 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly
(And I don't want to get into this), I think Oaktoon's frustration was totally justified in this case. This IS a big story and the comment for him to go to the DLD for it was a bit obnoxious.

by Crosbino on Jul 31, 2006 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How was my comment obnoxious
in ANY way???

I told him it was discussed at length in the DLD.  What the hell about that was obnoxious?  My goodness.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 31, 2006 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oak...
we're cool. I agree- you weren't being obnoxious.
oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jul 31, 2006 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool...
As long as you know my intent wasnt that..All good.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 31, 2006 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Discussed at length"
As in: nobody cares about your opinion on this trade. We (emphasis on the WE) are ALREADY talking about it somewhere else.

by Crosbino on Jul 31, 2006 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow...
Try and read between the lines just a tad more if it is possible.  Amazing for someone who doesnt know me to infer that much from three words.  Sorry, you were wrong.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 31, 2006 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fine
Don't care enough to argue.

by Crosbino on Jul 31, 2006 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing to argue about.
You were wrong.  Even the person I addressed it to says it wasnt obnoxious.  

Infer away.....still wrong.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 31, 2006 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Settle down
I thought you weren't arguing ... why do people on this site get so angry about such stupid shit?

by Crosbino on Jul 31, 2006 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im very settled.
As calm as could be.  You are the one who jumped into it and started arguing..even after Toon and I were cool.

But you know what I REALLY meant apparently.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 31, 2006 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you two
now arguing over whether or not you were arguing?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 31, 2006 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's debatable
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2006 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and arguable.
"I smell like a meadow." - Yuniesky Betancourt

by Ozzz on Jul 31, 2006 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

there you go
being obnoxious, yet again!
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 31, 2006 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what is the "big story"
everyone keeps talking about?

i've searched everywhere, can't seem to find it...

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 31, 2006 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you don't think that...
even the possibility that the A's would acquire Soriano-- or be part of a 3 way deal that improves the team for the stretch run-- or even if this a 3 way deal where we dump zito for prospects-- is a big story...

Then I can't help you.

oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jul 31, 2006 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

again, i'll wait until 1:01 to mock you
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 31, 2006 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a 'possibility' we could acquire A-Rod.
Better post a diary.

Or maybe two!

"I smell like a meadow." - Yuniesky Betancourt

by Ozzz on Jul 31, 2006 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did Jayson Stark
and cbssporstline report the ARod fact?

Of course not.

The truer comment is "oaktoon made a post... better jump on him".

Listen, I made a vow a while back not to reprot anyone as a CGV, for various reasons.

You're testing that vow, my friend. You simply have a vendetta of some sort against me, and I think you had better figure out why you are compelled to do this all the time. What have I ever done to offend you?

Until that time, you , I and this entire site would benefit if you would try to offer something constructive about the team or the sport and not simply look for a way to attack me.

Because in the end you'er getting nowhere and I think it will frustrate you immensely when you realize that.

oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jul 31, 2006 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very far from frustrated...
...but I will say I'm tickled that YOU would tell ME to find 'something constructive' to say about the team.

Okay, let's see what I can come up with on that front:

"The season is over." (copyright Oaktoon, 2006)
"BLOW. UP. THIS. TEAM." (copyright Oaktoon, 2006)
...
...
...

Why don't you save me the trouble of digging up more and just fill in the blanks yourself, tiger?

"I smell like a meadow." - Yuniesky Betancourt

by Ozzz on Jul 31, 2006 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow...
you just keep digging your grave here, don't you? Kinda funny-- tiger.

OK-- so here's another vow-- from me to you, as a certain quartet once sang.

I will never again respond to another snide, mean, petty or gratuitous post that you make against me. Ever.

Fire away-- you'll never get a response back to me, because frankly, you don't deserve it.

Now if you want to talk baseball, or the A's, or something substantive, we'll see.

oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jul 31, 2006 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Digging my grave?
What is that, some sort of death threat? Harsh stuff, Happy.

Though I do find it enjoyable that you think the harshest punishment a guy could receive is to not get responses from you.

I'll try to survive. Bwaha.

"I smell like a meadow." - Yuniesky Betancourt

by Ozzz on Jul 31, 2006 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's because you're
focusing on the insignificant Soriano dealings. The story is, "Was OaktownPower insensitive or did oaktoon overreact?" Knowing Beane's love of 3-way deals, somehow I predict that the tone of Crosbino's replies will somehow be involved by the end...
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2006 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...I'm rejecting
the prospect of your being conciliatory, but if you'll consider the prospect of your being surly, we can talk. But you have to take salb918 in the deal--we've been trying to unload his overvalued ass all year. And I mean that literally; nice guy, below-average ass.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2006 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watch it, buddy.
You trade my ass away and you'll never see it again.
Can intangibles exist? Only the ones you can touch.

by salb918 on Jul 31, 2006 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In high school,
the popular reply to comments like that was, "Is that a promise or a threat?"
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2006 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing AN
is more mature than high school.  Now I'm going to the DLD to hang out with the cool kids.
Can intangibles exist? Only the ones you can touch.

by salb918 on Jul 31, 2006 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope the lines
aren't as bad as they are at the DMV.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2006 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now, that was kind of funny....
But I will say that the dismissiveness of Diary Police over something that is conceivably this big is pretty off-putting.

I mean here I am with all my criticisms of Beane lately and a lot of frustration over an underperforming team, and the minute I saw this, I wanted to let everyone konw that second. I had  no idea it was being covered deep in the DLD-- how could i unless I had spent a fair amount of time going there this am? some do, but to be honest, i usually don't.

People act like they have control over this space sometimes with things like the DLD-- let a hundred Sorianos bloom, for cryin out loud!

oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jul 31, 2006 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will stick my two cents in.
I took Oaktownpower's post the same way that Oaktoon did. "Dude we are already talking about this,so why another diary?" That is how it came off. I am glad that he told us that he didn't mean it like that. I usually don't like Oaktoon's diaries and comments but I am glad that you wrote this one Oaktoon. I would not have known about the perspective trade for a bit because I usually don't look at the link dumps right away. So ...thanks.

I would love to see us keep Soriano not do a 3 way trade. He's just what we need! And at a position that hasn't produced offensively for us.

by IM4Oakgal on Jul 31, 2006 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll bite.
Because of the following reasons, it's not encouraged to post thins already seen (prominently) in the link dump:
  1. Discussion is already taking place there. If it takes place here too, then people have to check two diaries for responses, and there's much wasting of time repeating what's been already said.
  2. Posting an additional diary means someone else's diary is knocked off the front page, and basically into obvlivion.
  3. Diaries that barely beat the minimum word count, IMO, suck.
That's why people ask that, before you post, you check to see if what you're about to post has already been posted.

And in terms of the DLD, it's really not hard to check it, do a 'find' for 'soriano', and be taken right to the place it's mentioned. I mean, about 80% of the posts in that DLD concern this topic.

"I smell like a meadow." - Yuniesky Betancourt

by Ozzz on Jul 31, 2006 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm pretty sure 75% of the people who post on AN
have never done the ol control-F...
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 31, 2006 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?
Then they should learn how to do it with the tutorial.

Just press alt and F4 at the same time for the first easy lesson.

"I smell like a meadow." - Yuniesky Betancourt

by Ozzz on Jul 31, 2006 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I must have done it wrong...
I ended up doing a searsh for "FU" and all got was pages and pages of posts that were all replies from Hollywood Oz to oaktoon.
"the reason why hitting the ball on the "sweet spot" of the bat feels so good is that the ball is contacting at the bat at a vibrational node." - salb918

by McFood on Jul 31, 2006 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not surprising.
You can't spell 'fun' without 'fu'.
"I smell like a meadow." - Yuniesky Betancourt

by Ozzz on Jul 31, 2006 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha..
Now I'm laughing.  Good shit Nico.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 31, 2006 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

in other news,
the sky is falling.

LOL, this thread is the best!

Keep it goin' boys!

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by bigelephant on Jul 31, 2006 10:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"bigelephant," my ass--
5'6" at best, with a trunk that tops out at 14".
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2006 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow, i thought this was a family site
what's your F'in problem, nico??
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 31, 2006 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You haven't met my family
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2006 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nico,
Do we know each other? :-)
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by bigelephant on Jul 31, 2006 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you mocking this thread?
Wow..what the hell is your deal??
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 31, 2006 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"People don't mock threads,
comments mock threads."

-Charlton Heston, blogging one day on NRA.com

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2006 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beane Stirring Things Up
Is anyone else having trouble getting any work done since the news broke that we've entered trade discussions for Alfonso Soriano?  Here I thought we'd have a nice quiet trade deadline as everything that's been said by Billy Beane up to this point is he didn't foresee any major changes.  I guess it wouldn't really be a deadline day unless Billy put his stamp on it.  
We can be considered David, David knocks out Goliath. -Eric Chavez PT-42

by norcaldevilasu on Jul 31, 2006 10:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

back to topic
Its great if Beane can somehow sneak into the soriano sweepstakes.  I think three team deal is a given and the A's will not actually get Soriano.

Been a big fan of Nick Johnson from day 1 talking trades.  He is an injury risk, but he could also DH next year if the Big Hurt leaves.  

Beane should try and move Witasick or some BP guy.

Bill Stoneman is about to be offered three seasons of a right-handed version of Vladimir Guerrero - Rev Halofan

by pickinmachine on Jul 31, 2006 10:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting thought on NJ
He would seem to fit the A's philosophy and mindset extremely well.....and he even comes with an injury history too.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 31, 2006 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he doesn't come with a criminal past,
then he's no good. Next!
Kettlecorn! Swishercorn!

by TurnTwo on Jul 31, 2006 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

his injury
is the only reason that hes cheap.

Hes making only 5.5 million through '09.  Thats a pretty sweet contract for any team if you can get the production.  .969 OPS this year.

Hes been pretty healthy this year so far.  

Bill Stoneman is about to be offered three seasons of a right-handed version of Vladimir Guerrero - Rev Halofan

by pickinmachine on Jul 31, 2006 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Big Hurt....
Since Zito pretty much told all of baseball he's leaving by signing Boras as his agent, I think it's a VERY good possability that the Big Hurt stays next year...expecilly since he flat out said "I'm loyal and I want to stay."

by Threepwood XX on Jul 31, 2006 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

trades
Billy Beane is not going to make one trade , everyone at AN day heard him flat out tell us that. I know GM'S lie to the Media all the time, but Billy Sounded honest and sincere. Plus hes at that big event today.
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by bballfanr33 on Jul 31, 2006 10:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not leaving for the big event til
after the trade deadline.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 31, 2006 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure
But frankly you never know what will develop.  If someone called Billy about a potential trade, he would be a fool not to listen.  This is a big day for GMs, I find it hard to believe that hes not "working".
Bill Stoneman is about to be offered three seasons of a right-handed version of Vladimir Guerrero - Rev Halofan

by pickinmachine on Jul 31, 2006 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beane was also talking
pretty specifically about not dealing Zito, not whether he would consider a trade that could make them better for 2006 without mortgaging 2007.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 31, 2006 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if Beane,,,
May be trying to drive the value of soriano up for the Angels?

by IM4Oakgal on Jul 31, 2006 10:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i'd tell you that the idea has been covered
in the DLD, but you might take that the wrong way...
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 31, 2006 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

them's fighting words
"welcome to ME, motherf*^*er!" - tim hudson

by guy incognito on Jul 31, 2006 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

here?
A friendly reminder for all those hard working people at DLD, come on in and grab a seat as AN members eat eachother over the web! Good times, we might start making Toon's diaries PPV, as they generally turn into a ANWWF style diaries.
" This is worster-case scenario" BB 7/6/06

by rook on Jul 31, 2006 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

could easily be
But to use poker terminology, it had better be at least a "semi-bluff"-- in other words, close to a real hand, or the Angels won't respond.
oaktoon

by oaktoon on Jul 31, 2006 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey, that's really similar to something
i said... in the DLD.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jul 31, 2006 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How dare you mention the DLD?
Why, Oaktoon spent all of 90 seconds writing this one!

Just what is your problem, cynic?

"I smell like a meadow." - Yuniesky Betancourt

by Ozzz on Jul 31, 2006 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing BB is after the Marlins
pitching prospects and re-directing Soriano out of the AL West;

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5367&PHPSESSID=7f76700700ac3411bc27aa242 ced0083

From Will Carroll at Baseball Prospectus before BB was announced:

"The idea that Florida would acquire Alfonso Soriano makes sense, both at its most basic level, and in a more complex scenario. The more involved issue is the potential shadow of the new CBA, with teams worried that a de facto salary floor might be put in place. Teams that have bottomed out the payroll would rather not make Royal-style veteran mediocrity signings, and are looking to see if there are fits or long-term signings that would make the bottom line more favorable looking to the teams writing revenue sharing checks. There's also a lot of speculation that dealing a passel of young pitchers for Soriano would be just one side of the transaction. All three teams in the AL Central race made calls to Florida to check on the situation, as did the Angels."

Knowing how BB loves pitching prospects it would be like him to cut himself in for a few of the Marlins

Nats; DJ, Windsor & ?
Marlins: Soriano
A's: Pitching prospects

This manuever keeps Soriano away from the Angels and Texas

Zuzu: Look, daddy. Teacher says, every time a bell rings an angel gets his wings. George : That's right, that's right. Attaboy, Clarence.

by Billy Ball 2005 on Jul 31, 2006 11:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing BB is after the Marlins
pitching prospects and re-directing Soriano out of the AL West;

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5367&PHPSESSID=7f76700700ac3411bc27aa242 ced0083

From Will Carroll at Baseball Prospectus before BB was announced:

"The idea that Florida would acquire Alfonso Soriano makes sense, both at its most basic level, and in a more complex scenario. The more involved issue is the potential shadow of the new CBA, with teams worried that a de facto salary floor might be put in place. Teams that have bottomed out the payroll would rather not make Royal-style veteran mediocrity signings, and are looking to see if there are fits or long-term signings that would make the bottom line more favorable looking to the teams writing revenue sharing checks. There's also a lot of speculation that dealing a passel of young pitchers for Soriano would be just one side of the transaction. All three teams in the AL Central race made calls to Florida to check on the situation, as did the Angels."

Knowing how BB loves pitching prospects it would be like him to cut himself in for a few of the Marlins

Nats; DJ, Windsor & ?
Marlins: Soriano
A's: Pitching prospects

This manuever keeps Soriano away from the Angels and Texas

Zuzu: Look, daddy. Teacher says, every time a bell rings an angel gets his wings. George : That's right, that's right. Attaboy, Clarence.

by Billy Ball 2005 on Jul 31, 2006 11:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry
for the double-post
Zuzu: Look, daddy. Teacher says, every time a bell rings an angel gets his wings. George : That's right, that's right. Attaboy, Clarence.

by Billy Ball 2005 on Jul 31, 2006 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure this makes sence....
How does Soriano, a 2 month rental, help the Marlins with a payroll floor NEXT year?

Also, if a payroll floor is intgroduced, does that mean we can finally get a cap on payrolls too?

by Threepwood XX on Jul 31, 2006 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like it is dead...
The A's have been told they don't have the bullets to land Soriano. Marlins-Tigers-Washington 3-way looks like it's on life support. Another team was told by Bowden he has two deals he can do right now on Soriano _ one with an NL team (Astros?), one with an AL team (Twins?). And on Tejada, I was told there's only a 5 percent chance of that deal going down now.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on Jul 31, 2006 11:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I HAD A DREAM WE GOT SORIANO!!!!!!!!!!!!11
wow if it comes true... oh my f'n god!!!!
"The are only two places in this league. First place and no place." -Tom Seaver

by greekpride08 on Jul 31, 2006 1:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

last year on mvp baseball
I traded for Joe Kennedy, and the next day I read that the A's had done the same.  I never even heard of the guy, I just liked his numbers on the game.  Sometimes wierd stuff happens.

by Scottbass on Jul 31, 2006 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Repo Man:
"A lot o' people don't realize what's really going on. They view life as a bunch o' unconnected incidents 'n things. They don't realize that there's this, like, lattice o' coincidence that lays on top o' everything. Give you an example; show you what I mean: suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness."
"the reason why hitting the ball on the "sweet spot" of the bat feels so good is that the ball is contacting at the bat at a vibrational node." - salb918

by McFood on Jul 31, 2006 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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