Urban Responds to AN
On July 20th, Sharon put up a diary about a column by Mychael Urban in the San Francisco Examiner that was a serious indictment of Milton Bradley's behavior. Many on AN, including myself, reacted with shock and anger because we didn't believe that Bradley had done anything to warrant the column.
Urban was a bit shocked by the reaction on AN and thus he wanted a chance to respond to some of the critiques, some of which were very personal in nature. In all likelihood, Mychael can't make this year's AN Day, so he's taking the opportunity to talk to ANers here.
Here is my quick question and answer session with Urban over email:
Blez: First of all, are you writing a regular column now for the Examiner?
Mychael Urban: Yes, I've been writing it for about a year and a half now. It appears every Thursday, and it's about baseball during the season and all sports in the offseason. One of the reasons the offer to write it appealed to me is the same reason I enjoy writing the mailbag you see on the A's site. As a beat writer, you're not to let your opinions on anything influence your work. The reader expects and deserves your complete objectivity, so you simply write about what was done, and what the doers have to say about it. And while we're all human, and by no means will I lie to anyone and say my opinion has NEVER seeped into something I've written as a part of the beat work, I think all of us on the A's beat do a pretty good job with objectivity. Wrting something like a column or a mailbag, however, allows you to be subjective and voice your opinions. It's a different, more creative outlet, and it obviously makes you more of a target to people who disagree with your opinions. I get that, and I understand completely why some of your readers bashed me; I went after one of their guys. They disagreed. That's fine. The personal attacks were a bit much -- some of them were pretty funny, though --and that's part of the territory, too. As far as the characterizations of me being a bitter failed athlete, I'll say this. :Sure, I pitched in college and would have loved to play at the next level, but I came to grips with my relative lack of talent in that arena while I was still in it, and anyone who knows my body of work knows I don't randomly atttack people. And no, I'm not gunning for a newspaper job or a full-time radio gig. I like it at MLB.com; we celebrate baseball, and not many media outlets do much of that anymore. But it's nice to get out of that box once a week and write what's on my mind.
Blez: What inspired you to write the column? Was it something said to you in the clubhouse?
Urban: I saw a player with a history of meltdowns have two pretty major public meltdowns in less than a week, and I'm privvy to several private ones over the course of the season that I won't get into for obvious reasons, so I felt he needed to be called out for the inappropriateness of his actions. Put it this way: I wouldn't write something like that if I wasn't positive that what I was writing was legit, was sourced well, and wouldn't compromise the many relationships I've spent years building. And for the conspiracy theorists on your site, it wasn't a message from the front office to Bradley's agent or anything of the sort. It was me seeing a situation that might be getting out of hand and shedding some light on it. I felt like he was embarrassing himself and the organization, and just as my opinions are fair game to the masses, so are the actions of highly paid professionals to columnists paid to put their opinions out there.
Blez: A lot of people on the site seem to have the impression that you have it in for Milton Bradley. How would you respond to that?
Urban: I'd point to my constant defense of the trade for Bradley prior to the Baltimore episode. Bradley's not big on talking -- especially when things don't go his way -- and that certainly gets frustrating at times because beat writers depend on the principals of any given night's action to give life to their stories. But I don't "have it in" for him at all. If people want to think I do, I can't do anything about that. You're talking to a guy who's been blown off a million times, by athletes as insignificant as Jeremy Giambi. If I had an axe to grind against everyone who's blown me off, I'd be chopping for years.
Blez: Do you think the column was fair to Bradley who from all appearances hasn't done much to bring on that kind of column in many people's opinion?
Urban: Fair? Hell, yes, it was fair. It certainly wasn't untrue. Was it harsh? Yeah, absolutely. But deservedly so in MY opinion, and that's what this was: MY opinion, based on a lot of supporting evidence. Look, I'd have loved to have gotten Bradley's take on everything before writing the piece. I even went to him privately that day in Baltimore trying to do so. But he wouldn't talk, so I went with what I had, and what I had was that there are/were people in that clubhouse who are/were concerned that if the kind of behavior he displayed in Boston and Baltimore went unchecked, it could lead to bigger problems down the road.
Blez: Unnamed sources have been a part of journalism since the profession began, but the big question is whether you heard the comment about people being tired of Bradley from multiple sources?
Urban: Yes, but my one regret is suggesting that the whole team was tired of his act. I didn't talk to everyone on the team. And one of your readers made a great point I might have made myself: The baseball season is a grind, and even the best of friends get tired of each other when they're in close quarters for a long period of time. But make no mistake: At the time, there were plenty of concerned parties who thought something needed to be done. Has something been done? I don't know. And if it has, I doubt we'll ever know.
Blez: Anything else that you'd like to add about the column that you'd like ANers to know?
Urban: Hmmm. Well, I will say I was surprised by the heated reaction to it. But like I said, getting bashed is part of the territory. I stand behind what I wrote, and I'm certainly in the A's clubhouse enough for anyone there who had an issue with it to confront me about it. But I've seen Milton since the column came out, and I've spoken to Billy and a lot of other players. The column hasn't come up, and nothing has changed as far as my working relationships in the room are concerned, so that's good enough for me. If I lost the respect of some of your passionate members, I guess I have to just wear it -- just like I'll continue to wear the earring I was hammered for. You've got some clever folks, Blez. Mean as hell, but clever. Thanks for letting me respond to some of them, and thanks to the people who came to my defense.
Blez: Thanks for being willing to talk to us about it.
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Ouch.
Buuuuuurn!
I loved that line....
by gigglingone on Jul 25, 2006 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmm...
Freudian slip?
Yeah
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 25, 2006 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I figured as much
standup guy
I have never had a beef with any of his articles in the past so I would never hold a grudge anyway. What an important asset Magnum P.I.??? really is and I hope he continues to regularly show up at AN.
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 25, 2006 10:35 AM PDT reply actions
Thanks for another Exclusive
Mychael - keep stirring up crap! Keep us informed on everything. :-)
Wow, very impressive Urban
Well dont Blez and well doen Mychael.
shoot...
by OaktownPower on Jul 25, 2006 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, those attacking urban
i may not always agree with urban, but at least he's not a pompous ass like ratto or plaschke...
i'll give you plaschke
by rubin sierra on Jul 25, 2006 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
fat chance
Speak for yourself, man
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 25, 2006 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Mychael, thanks very much
Oh, and thanks for the new signature line, too!
Eric Chavez
by tankormike on Jul 25, 2006 10:41 AM PDT reply actions
What?
by OaktownPower on Jul 25, 2006 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Chavez has publicly defended MB
brilliant stuff, dude
Thanks for the Q&A, Blez & Mychael
lol
by gigglingone on Jul 25, 2006 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
btw
by gigglingone on Jul 25, 2006 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
"known to like Cupcakes"
Did he give him a puppy?
Why
Yes I know that the media is part of the game but I could care less what Milton Bradley does after the game. I have a felling that Urban made a mistake by making the news and not reporting it.
What happens in the clubhouse should stay there. If he wants a important job then have him write about topics that deal with the A's, such as injuries, stats, and so forth.
The media is the greatest example as to why the country is going down the toilet.
by crd04 on Jul 25, 2006 10:43 AM PDT reply actions
You are in the minoroty though...
by OaktownPower on Jul 25, 2006 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe
Take for example the Barry Bond issue. Now anyone with a brain knows that he took steroids but the media is not satisfied with that until Bonds admits it on TV.
Remember what Jim Gray did to Pete Rose on national TV. Everyone knew Rose was guilty but the media tried to make a opportunity for themselves.
Enough said I will get off my soap box.
by crd04 on Jul 25, 2006 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
What a beat writer is...
This is the job I'm hoping to get in the near future.
The Word: Or bitter sports journalists.
Here's the rub
But his column wasn't about the potential problems so much as it was about the fact that the guy had already exploded, the die was cast, in his words "Game over."
That was the problem with the column. People would have accepted something about a potential problem down the road, but Urban amped in up and wrote as if that time had already come.
Oh, and of course, kudow to Urban
kudos, I mean
thanks for not posting a picture of koro
You know, that's a really good point.
People have been concerned all along about Bradley's 'fire', but this has been the only thing I've read that's suggested that the A's are tired of him, and wish he wasn't on the team.
All other accounts speak to the players really liking someone like him on the team.
"I'm your huckleberry." ~grover
by baseballgirl on Jul 25, 2006 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactly!
Macha won't retaliate when our guys get beaned over and over. Our so-called 'leader' allegedly wants to bat even further down in the order and the words he echoes is uninspiring if not down right depressing for a clubhouse leader.
I want Miggy after the 2003 playoff loss. I want a vociferous Bradley who lit up Redsox pitching. Give me more of that damnit!
by sf drift king on Jul 25, 2006 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
What bugged me about the column
The fact that Urban could not relay anything - not an anonymous comment, not a private observation of an incident involving unidentified players - nothing to substantiate that there is any problem at all between Bradley and his teammates, made the column feel trashy.
Sorry Mychael. I love your work on mlb.com and really appreciate your spending time on AN, but I hated that column.
by matthias on Jul 25, 2006 10:44 AM PDT reply actions
urban has always seemed like a pretty fair guy
this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. bradley wasn't exactly behaving like a model baseball player, urban's column may have gone too far, and ANers probably overreacted to the whole thing.
Well what fun is that? ;)
"I'm your huckleberry." ~grover
by baseballgirl on Jul 25, 2006 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
ANers?? Overreacting???
by gigglingone on Jul 25, 2006 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Shut up! Just SHUT UP!!!
{bursts into tears, gets drunk, shaves own head}
<shaves Sal's head>
<shaves Monkeyball's arms, neck, and waist>
by rich @ Athletics Nation on Jul 25, 2006 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
well, slap a bow tie on me ...
AN has been quite the drama fest these days...
by pickinmachine on Jul 25, 2006 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
And if he thought it was negative before...
"I'm your huckleberry." ~grover
by baseballgirl on Jul 25, 2006 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
ANers have been watching too many
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 25, 2006 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
what about 'toonivision?
Telemundo also has Novellas, too.
by pachydermOAFC on Jul 25, 2006 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Destinos!!!
"I'm your huckleberry." ~grover
by baseballgirl on Jul 25, 2006 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, yes, and yes.
-Nick Swisher
by kaweahkaweah on Jul 25, 2006 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm going to agree with a number of people here
true
by crd04 on Jul 25, 2006 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
For sure.
"I'm your huckleberry." ~grover
by baseballgirl on Jul 25, 2006 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Likewise
I'll give Mychal props for responding to all the negative feedback.
by sf drift king on Jul 25, 2006 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Suddenly it is the
by southofcruiseamerica on Jul 25, 2006 10:54 AM PDT reply actions
Hey Mychael...
From all other accounts I've read, the players really seem to like him; he adds depth to a very weak lineup, and he threated to kick Boston fans' asses. Really, what's not to like?
It was just a little surprising reading all those accounts, and then reading your piece on how the players are sick of his act.
Maybe I'm biased; I think Bradley is one of the best things to happen to the A's this year, when healthy, and I'm not so much concerned with his innapropriatness at times. Lord knows, SOMEONE on the A's should be innapropriate. ;)
"I'm your huckleberry." ~grover
Agreed completely
I like Bradley, and his fire, and think it's unfortunate that his reputation comes back to haunt him now in a town whose media at the start of the season were excited to have him, warts and all.
It just seemed a like kicking a guy when he's down on the basis of hearsay and rumor the way it was written.
by LD on Jul 25, 2006 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
the only good i can see coming out of this
Just be careful with his back...
"I'm your huckleberry." ~grover
by baseballgirl on Jul 25, 2006 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
good point
Off topic, but did anybody see the Gwen Knapp
by A'sfansince1970 on Jul 25, 2006 10:59 AM PDT reply actions
One objection to what Urban said,
The Jeter incident
uhoh, depression's setting in again remembering that play, and now that stupid reversal commercial.
Gatorade SUCKS.
"I'm your huckleberry." ~grover
by baseballgirl on Jul 25, 2006 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
They make up for it with The Catch in there...
by OaktownPower on Jul 25, 2006 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
bad times
But he didn't
Oh well
by crd04 on Jul 25, 2006 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
respect points for Urban
My beef was the whole fair reporting issue, but if it's an op-ed piece, that argument is bunk. So, while I may fear what the article does to the clubhouse, I can't really rally against with the points that I was.
Besides, maybe it got Milt fired up....didn't Milton's absolute bomb in Detroit just scream, "Urbaaaaaaaaaaaan"???
respect
He is a good enough writer to be responsible for the words he writes. He stands for what he wrote and admits that it was harsh instead of saying that it was a matter of interpretation or some other line that journalists use to dodge responsibility for their writing.
I still feel that he could have made the same points in the column about Milton without the unsourced insinuations, and it would have been a stronger column generating less 'friendly fire'.
Okay, for the umpteenth time
by A'sfansince1970 on Jul 25, 2006 11:30 AM PDT reply actions
Blez...
M? Yes we were mean and cruel in the thread regarding you personally. I said then that I thought that and I still do. However,as for the criticisms of your article you have to expect criticism as a writer. Bradley has been a lightning rod for our A's when he plays and that inspires loyalty in the fans and appreciation. That was the catalyst for the anger. I like to see some sources sited when I read gossip. So keep that in mind ok? <g>
He's just trying to eat his cake.
I like that he answered some questions from Blez, but c'mon, guts? It doesn't take much guts to fire back some answers over e-mail, I mean, look at all of us.
I just didn't like the article, because it showed exactly Urban's tilt on things and now that's going to cloud every article that I read of his on mlb.com.
I mean, c'mon, we all anticipated this might happen with MB eventually, but to call it a huge meltdown is just trying to inflate it to the level of past incidents. He had altercations with fans, albeit Boston fans. It's not like he's punching teamates, writing "the ship is going down" or getting ticketed by the Law.
I stand by my comments that Urban made the article unnecessarily controversial to "sell papers". He littered it with pop-shots in a very pointed manner. The worst line is "And if the problem isn't nipped in the bud, the A's won't be in first place much longer." What?
Last thing, if MB did see the article, forget about ever getting any tidbits from him anytime soon. Not that he was free flowing before, but now the river will be dry.
by rcb on Jul 25, 2006 11:42 AM PDT reply actions
Examiner Headlines!!!!
You gotta hand it Urban, he certainly knows how to work a crowd. First of all he writes a butcher job, a personal character attack, on a player and then he not only BLAMS the player for the peice but he then comes onto AN and justifies it! And he wonders why some on AN bit back in a personal way-"The personal attacks were a bit much". Gee, I wonder if Bradley said the same thing right after reading Urban's trash.
To recap, some of Urban's handy work:
"Now that Beane's success has increased the value of OBP, he's looking for weaknesses elsewhere, and what he's apparently discovered is that so-called "problem players" are undervalued"
"One of Beane's problem players is Milton Bradley, and he's becoming a bigger problem by the day"
"Bradley has five-tool talent, which is what enticed Beane into trading away his top outfield prospect, Andre Ethier, to get him. But he also has about seven screws loose."
"Until Saturday, Bradley had been on his best behavior. Of course, it's easy to behave when you're on the disabled list, which is where Bradley has been for most of the year."
And my favs:
"So on the A's moved to Baltimore, where the Orioles fans aren't exactly known for being harsh. But they certainly got under Bradley's skin, and Bradley gave them plenty of material with one of the weakest acts seen since the World Cup ended."
"After stumbling while rounding first base on Wednesday, Bradley appeared to be injured, and badly...There must have been some kind of medical magician in the dugout, because Bradley was back out on defense the next inning, even diving for a ball."
"So the fans let him have it, and rightly so."
Dat a boy Urban, you're a real hero.
Thanks Urban!!
It takes a lot of courage to face a site like this and give them your side of the story. Many may not agree with what you did, but like everyone else on this site, you are entitled to your opinion.
I have always looked at you as one of 3 reporters I believe and trust to deliver the truth. My confidence in one of the three was shaken earlier in the season and to see this article made me sad. But I knew that it was you, so there had to be something to it. Your response today solidified that thought.
I don't want to believe the worst about Milton, especially because he is quickly becoming one of my favorite players on the team. And honestly, if his issues are mostly with opposing teams' fans, I can absolutely live with that. It is when he starts to impact the other 24 guys on the team that I will begin to worry, and so far I have not seen that.
I truly hope that the mean spirited comments aimed at you in the last week do not effect your opinion of the site as a whole. I especially hope it does not effect your writing and your decisions to include certain details in your stories.
Thank you Mychael for having the guts and the grit to face us head on, and remind us all that we DO NOT know the whole story, and probably never will.
One not-so-hot article does not change the fact that you are one of my favorite sports writers. Keep up the good work!
by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Jul 25, 2006 12:24 PM PDT reply actions
{starts rumor about which mistrusted reporter}
EW!
by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Jul 25, 2006 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I think a good point was made above
he shoots! he scores!
This is what's happened to the Fourth Estate, it's been taken over by this mentality of inclusion-in-the-exclusive, like "I was in the clubhouse (where you lowly peons will never tread, because you're not me!) and some of the players (whom you will never talk to because you're not me, so you don't get to go into the clubhouse, where you will never be, and talk to them like I do!) told me that this guy (whom you are already predisposed to dislike/mistrust because of previous media-inflamed circumstances in other cities) is reeeeeeealllly getting on his teammates nerves, and I oughta know because they told me! Unanimously!"
Oh, wait, it was only a few and they were really more concerned with what this player will do in the future. Yeah. Urban should just face up to the fact that he is just angry at Bradley because Bradley isn't the most friendly player to the media, and especially to Urban himself.
Of course, I don't see why that is... it's not like Urban ever goes off half-cocked and writes inflammatory, drama-inducing opinion pieces about the players he covers, especially when those players are arguably the ones CARRYING THE TEAM at present.
by emperor nobody on Jul 25, 2006 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
let's also not forget
The new "journalism" prominently features this to-the-choir aspect, as the Human race (surrounded by ever more damning uncertainty and gray area) attempts to tell itself over and over again that everything it thought it already knew about itself was, in fact, absolutely right.
Moral certainty may not be a constructive path for dialogue and real learning, but it sure does give people in need of an authority figure someone to tell them what to do.
by emperor nobody on Jul 25, 2006 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with zack
http://elephantsinoakland.com/blog.html
I have less respect for him now.
Why should he have to answer to us?
Because he knows hes an idiot and wanted to defend himself.
by Ionnes on Jul 25, 2006 12:39 PM PDT reply actions
we all know MB is sensitive to fan abuse
And as for unnamed A's players voicing concerns? Sure, who isn't concerned? But named A's players are defending MB.
I'm glad Urban is willing to respond to Fan criticism of his article...but it doesn't cancel out that criticism.
That's how I feel.
I find it suprising
Great job Blez
I thought this was funny:
That, along with the fact that we find out he's been writing this column for a year-and-a-half--is that right?--goes to show one very important point that's being overlooked here:
Nobody reads the Examiner.
my thoughts exactly
(No slight to Mychael or his column intended; major slight to SFEx intended).
In its defense
by LD on Jul 25, 2006 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Hahaha, that was my thought--
"No. It's Oakland."
The paper's FREE
by sf drift king on Jul 25, 2006 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
To those criticizing M. Urban
I agree
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 25, 2006 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds to me like
my only problem was with the ...
As I said in the initial thread, if the sourcing is true, then Mychael's on solid ground -- and we've got some real weasels in the A's clubhouse.
one problem, but i don't know
i think urban clearly miscalculated when he wrote this column.
i'm guessing urban didn't expect such a negative response because he figured the public was equally frustrated by bradley. well, we may be frustrated by the injuries, but i don't think most of us care whether he gets along with opposing fans (as long as he doesn't go ron artest on them) or whether he has a good relationship with the media.
bradley's unwillingness to cooperate is no excuse, urban went too far.
I disagree, but it's a fair opinion
What I'm not quite so comfortable with is the using of unnamed sources without clarifying whether the unnamed sources were speaking out of school, or whether the columnist was speaking out of school.
I disagree with Urban's opinion, but I have no problem with the manner in which or the fact that he expressed it.
He didn't have any other choice . . .
by rcb on Jul 25, 2006 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
A Weekly Examiner column
The charge that the reporter should report rather than be the story is a very serious one, particularly in terms of the confluence of today's strident media pundits and so-called "gotcha" journalism. However, it's also true that a journalist is obligated to tell the truth rather than merely repeat press releases and propaganda. Sometimes there aren't two sides to every issue (Republican vs. Democrat). Sometimes there's one one (truth vs. lies). So while I think it's valid to argue Mychael stepped over the line (into the realm of "gotcha" journalism, for instance), I'd give him a free pass on "being the news." Assuming no hidden motives here, he was doing his job as a journalist to the best of his abilities, and I don't think he should be faulted for that. If telling the truth makes the reporter the news, then that should be okay. Otherwise, we'd have never seen the Watergate revelations or the Pentagon Papers, or even Ron Suskind's recent book, "The One Percent Doctrine."
by richwol on Jul 25, 2006 1:29 PM PDT reply actions
Good of Urban to suit up and show up
that is at his end of his pc.
Thank you, Blez.
I think there was overreaction all the way around, and I think I'm guilty of it, too. So...
<moves on>
Beat Boston, for the love of Pete!
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on Jul 25, 2006 2:19 PM PDT reply actions
Thanks Mychael
OT
He's trying to have his buddy DJ brought back to the majors.
Flopping at 1B??
by BobbyCrosbysGirl on Jul 25, 2006 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank You, Mychael
I will give Urban credit for coming to AN
I understand it is his opinions -- but where does he get off making these statements? By his own admission in his MLB.com Mailbag
Here are, however some quotes from the Examiner article about this person that Urban "does not know"
They're also tired of Macha playing the role of enabler.
So to summerize: Bradley is the reason we will fall out of first, he of the seven loose screws. Bradley then faked an injury on the field (why he would even think that is beyond me) and in conclusion all the A's are sick of MB and also sick of Macha letting him run amok.
I understand that these are his opinions, but shouldn't a journalist be responsible or at least accurate? I mean the first quote about the A's not being in first much longer if the Bradley problem is not nipped in the bud makes no sense. Is he suggesting trading him? benching him? Anger managment? If you are going to make a statement like that at least back it up with what you think the A's should do to nip it in the bud.
Next, the "seven screws loose" comment. Shoddy journalism at best. I mean you are already trashing the guy, is it really necesary to resort to name calling? But I guess that is what tabloid journalism is all about....
The "medical magician in the dugout" comment really pisses me off. Is he saying that Bradley just does not give a shit to the point where he would intentionally make an out for some sort of sympathy play? And then he is not even smart enough to pretend to stay injured (to keep up the ploy), as he later comes back to make a diving catch? We have not seen Bradley play as much as we would like, but he has played hard the entire time we have had him able to play and I can't see any reason that he would pretend to be in pain. To speculate that he does not hurt that much and should have gotten back to the bag is okay for AN blog posters, but journalists should have more integrity and realize that maybe, just maybe, it hurt like hell for a minute and then he was able to walk it off. Guessing on the amount of pain a person is in is tough for doctors who are actually examining a patient. Not sure how Urban would be better at it while watching from the press box.
Finally, the quote about how all the A's are tired of his act and that Macha is an enabler. He did cover this a bit in his interview w/ Blez and backed off the entire team being tired of his act. Still to even make that comment where every single quote from an A's player says how much they love Milton's fire is just incorrect. You have to at least say (in general terms) how you know this. Overheard clubhouse chatter? A quote from a current athletic who will remain annonomous? To make a blatant statement like that with nothing to support it is the height of irresponsible.
I could keep going (I really hated this hatchet job article) but I think I have ranted enough on this. I just hate to see him getting so much props for coming on (which he does deserve some) and not enough accountability for what he actually said.
Fair Points
by LD on Jul 26, 2006 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
good points, but ...
Recently, many other journalists, covering much more important issues than baseball, have run shrieking from online criticism and feedback.
I'm not saying Urban's beyond criticism, or that by playing nice with us he gets a free pass (in fact, I agree with much of your criticisms of the piece), but I do think it's really significant that he "gets it" regarding the changing nature of the media-audience relationship.
CROSBY IS THE DOOMSDAY DEVICE!
Chavez is hurt, get mad if you WANT!
Crosby and the batting coach (is there one?) need to have their heads checked! Someone needs to make some concrete blocks fitted with a place for his feet to clamp in, and I don't care even if if fits right or not! This kid has a goofed out little league swing! PLANT YOUR FRIGGIN FEET IN THE BOX!
Keep Milton.
by baseballbill on Jul 25, 2006 4:52 PM PDT reply actions
Meanwhile...Kenny Rogers
Great game with Angels and DRays
by A'sfansince1970 on Jul 25, 2006 5:17 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, the Heckler from Tampa Bay...
Dotel was on rehab,
These stats astound me: .320 AVG, .413 OBP, 9 HRs, twice as many BBs (44) as Ks (22)--in 270 ABs.
Scott Hatteberg. Apparently not so done.
amazing what Hatte can do when healthy
Billy made a boo boo!
by A'sfansince1970 on Jul 25, 2006 5:26 PM PDT reply actions
yeah BUOOY! ! ! !
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 25, 2006 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
here's the problem with Urban
Exactly
My job doesn't even have anything to do with my paper's political coverage, but management would still frown on my having political bumper stickers on my car, for example, because it could lead to people outside the paper perceiving bias.
Even if Milton Bradley's teammates really are tired of him and he kicks puppies and makes babies cry, it still looks really bad for someone who covers the team he's on to say things like he has "seven screws loose."
Once readers know a reporter's personal feelings about a topic (or person), I think they will always have that in the back of their mind when reading that person's work.
At this point, I don't know how much I can trust anything else Urban writes about Bradley. Even if he is trying to be fair to him, there will always be the perception that he has an ulterior motive.
THANK YOU COMMUTER
Hmm.....
Quick, what did he write about in yesterday's paper?
by Voltease on Jul 27, 2006 3:15 PM PDT reply actions

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