Did Macha screw up last night?
First let me say, I am not one of these people that says Macha needs to be fired after every decision goes wrong. Having said that I was very, very upset with his decision making in last nights game and I will try and explain my thinking.
I watched the entire game, and let me say that Saarloos was awesome. He gave everything he had and only giving up 2 runs in 8 IP is more then we could have expected. Saarloos was keeping the ball down great, and when he does that he can be very successful.
What I don't understand is how I can see things that Macha can't. In the 7th inning Saarloos left a pitch up -- a big fat hanger -- that Torii Hunter just missed and fouled straight back. I saw that pitch and thought "Oh Sh**, Saarloos might be losing it". Saarloos battled back and got Hunter to ground into a DP, but still the warning light was on.
Macha at this point needs to know his pitchers. We know that as the game gets later that Saarloos can lose it -- and lose it fast. Not a knock on him, just what we have observed. However, since Saarloos was pretty much on his game up until now, I would have sent him out to start the 8th, but with Morneau due up 2nd in the inning, why not have your lefty up and loose, just in case?
On to the 8th. Saarloos facing Cuddyer and does the same thing. Throws a hanger that is up in the zone and the A's are lucky it stayed in the yard as he lines it to LF. Now the count is two straight batters -- two straight hanging mistake pitches. After watching the last two batters get big fat mistake pitches, does Macha go to the lefty to get the Twins best power hitter? No he doesn't. Why? Because he did not have the foresight to see this coming, and there is not a lefty up and ready in the pen. So Saarloos continues the trend that should be forseeable at this point and throws his 3rd straight mistake pitch during an at bat, but finally, this time, it is not missed and Morneau goes yard.
Here are my big complaints. Why can't Macha see that Saarloos is getting his pitches up? Why can't he prepare a "just in case" lefty for Morneau? I fully realize that Keisler or Flores could have given up a HR to Morneau as well (although his last 3 year stats of 208/258/345 vs lefties would seem like a good matchup).
I am not saying that Macha lost us this game with his decisions. We only scored 1 run and there is no guarantee the pen could have held the 1-0 lead. What I am saying is that the decisions made by Macha in the 8th inning of that game were quite obviously (to me) not the correct ones, and why give a big power hitter that has no track record of success against lefties a chance to tee off vs a righty that has just thrown two mistake pitches to the last two batters?
If someone can explain to me why this is good logic, I would love to hear it. Kirk had done more then his fair share, and it was time to get him out with a power hitting lefty up. I realize that after Morneau we would have had to try to matchup with the next guys, but to be honest, I think in that inning Morneau is the one guy you have to put your best matchup against, and then worry about getting out the rest of the Twins (who after Morneau were Tiffee, Batista, Kubel -- not exactly murderers row).
Okay, diatribe over. I just felt like we should have stolen a game there, and we lost the oppurtunity to with a bad decision by Macha.
Thanks for listening.
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yea, I wasn't the only one who noticed Saarloos
He was losing it.
Macha seems to, and I've said this before, be more of a reactive manager, meaning he waits for something to happen, instead of preempting any problems.
As well as Saarloos was pitching, all the Twins needed to do was wait for the inevitable break down during the game. And it happened in the 8th. Granted, though who would have taken over for Saarloos at that point.
I don't trust anyone in our pen right now, with the possible exception of Street, when he keeps the ball down.
Gees, we miss Duch soooooo bad. Hindsight proves his allstar selection last year was the right choice, his value is showing itself now.
You don't love the best things in life, until you lose them.
After saying all that, Saarloos pitched great. Tough luck, man, he had such a good game. I just wish macha would have been a little more proactive.
by robber23 on Jun 3, 2006 10:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ya know...
A great catcher will walk up to the mound, signal to the coaches that he's done, and kill some time while they warm someone up.
A shitty catcher will just keep catching the wild and slow stuff, waiting for the coaches to catch on.
by Ozzz on Jun 3, 2006 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
a number of us commented on the
by OaklandSi on Jun 3, 2006 10:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree that it was one mistake
by AsFanInLA on Jun 3, 2006 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, and said so repeatedly
by OaklandSi on Jun 3, 2006 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah, gotcha
:-)
by AsFanInLA on Jun 3, 2006 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very well analyzed, AsFanInLA
by Nico on Jun 3, 2006 11:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree.
Oh well. HECK of a game up to that point.
by oblique on Jun 3, 2006 11:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's important to remember
One thing I can't blame Macha for is his lack of enthusiasm for throwing Keisler or Flores into that situation.
by Nico on Jun 3, 2006 11:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's the problem
But let's face it. Our bullpen is best used sparingly right now. I can't entirely blame Macha for pushing things with Saarloos. If he induces a double play instead, we all praise Macha for sticking with the guy who's throwing a shutout instead of using a AAA reliever.
I wasn't watching the game, so I will bow to others' knowledge of Saarloos' pitch location. If he was leaving a lot of pitches up, that argues for yanking him because of Saarloos' history of trouble late in games - and the fact that the A's needed a shutout.
by bear88 on Jun 3, 2006 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree our lefty options aren't great but
I agree then pen is best used sparingly, but we only wanted an out or two before giving it to Street and taking our chances.
by AsFanInLA on Jun 3, 2006 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree totally
A's pitcher going great for 6 or 7 innings only to see Macha keep him in for one more inning, game over. I saw the same thing you saw with the Hunter pitch, was surprised that the TV announcers didn't say a thing. That ball should have left the yard.
After two straight shut out games Macha had a rested bullpen, he only had to try and squeeze 6 more outs, granted we might have still lost but I would have felt a lot better for Sarloos to have left the game with a chance to win rather than ending up a losing pitcher. Had he pulled him and we lost we would all probably be jumping him for being a bad manager for pulling a guy who had only thrown 70 some odd pitches but the reality is that Sarloos had left some pitches up in the 7th and has never been known as a guy who can pitch effectively after 5 innings, getting 7 from him was a blessing and our bullpen WAS RESTED. I can understand why Macha doesn't trust anyone in the pen right now, but sure hated to see Sarloos get tagged with the loss. It just drives me crazy that guys like Rogers and Santana can completely shut us down every time, yes, yes, they are good pitchers but they don't shut every team down, they do give up runs and hits to other teams. I loved Macha's reasoning for pitch hitting DJ. "He hit a home run yesterday". Let me get this straight, DJ has been in the lineup for two months, that was his 3rd HR, so hit hits a HR about every 3 weeks, but because he hit one yesterday Macha thinks he is now a hot hitter.
by china bob on Jun 3, 2006 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Right
I think that Macha occasionally puts struggling players that he doesn't like in a position to fail in order to prove a point, probably to Beane. "Well, it's time to go to my setup guy, which is what I'm going to do, regardless of the fact that it's Mecir." or "I need a left handed stick off the bench; I guess that'd be TLong."
I can't think of any rationale for putting in DJ at that point; it's completely setting him up for failure. My prediction: DJ's going to go about 1 for his next 20, then get sent down.
by oblique on Jun 3, 2006 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree with that.
by baseballgirl on Jun 3, 2006 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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