Open Thread: Game 31 - A's vs. Devil Rays
Update [2006-5-7 15:45:1 by baseballgirl]: A's place Milton Bradley on the DL.
For today's intro, I'm going to poach from the famous Nico and include this priceless quote from yesterday's game thread because it sums everything up perfectly:
We have some depth this year, but...Payton is not as good as Bradley, Saarloos is not as good as Harden, Halsey is not as good as (a healthy) Loaiza, and on and on. Depth will allow us to tread water (as we're doing) instead of drown (as we were doing a year ago this month), but it won't get us 95 wins.
And then there's the offense, which isn't that great even when everyone's healthy, because the middle infielders may have been overrated offensively, the first-baseman seems to have lost all of his bat speed overnight, the DH is hitting like a National League pitcher, and the catcher sucks.
Heh.
In other news, let's talk about the merry-go-round; otherwise known as the 'batting order'. I've heard the following arguments:
Argument #1 - There are only 2.5 players hitting right now.
True. According to MLB.com, Swisher and Chavez are responsible for 39 percent of the team's hits, 54 percent of the team's home runs and 41 percent of the total runs driven in. (The other .5 is the occasional hit by a non-Chavez/Swisher. Usually a single.) So, knowing this is true, why in the world would you ever bat one of your hottest hitters a) seventh b) behind Mr. Rarely-Hits-Won't-Walk and c) in front of Mr. GIDP? You've just reduced your chances of scoring, and lest we blame 20/20 hindsight, I'd like to point out that more than one person in the game thread scripted how Friday's game was going to go long before the first pitch was ever thrown.
Argument #2 - Batting lineups don't really matter.
True for the Yankees, who have Mr. I-can-hit-homers up after Mr. I-can-hit-doubles up after Mr. I-have-a-ridiculous-OBP. But when you have the A's lineup; let's face it, you have to be a bit more creative. I wrote on this over the summer, which is basically a commentary from Eric Walker's theory on batting, which I'm still forming an opinion on. But all I know is this: Crosby had more plate appearances than Swisher on Friday night. This rant was brought to you by the letter "U" for "Unacceptable".
Argument #3 - The players write the lineup.
Which players are those? Soccer players? Basketball players? Diego Chavez?
Ahem. Onto the game!
Ballsy Brad Halsey makes his second start filling in for The Broken One. Wait...that nickname could refer to just about anyone on the A's. Let's call him `Oblique'. Much better. <barf>. Halsey picked up the win in Anaheim on Tuesday, after being yanked after Vlad hit a ball that probably landed on Matterhorn Mountain at Disneyland.
Good news! The A's seem to really like scoring runs for the replacements (much to the chagrin of Blanton and Zito this week), so let's hope this trend continues. With key members of the bullpen 'day-to-day' (A's speak for 'mostly dead'), Halsey needs to make the most of his pitch count by throwing strikes early and often. The A's can thank Zito for 7 strong innings yesterday to help out with the Aflac-dependant `pen.
On a personal note, it warms my green and gold heart to see Zito and Chavez doing so well. With that being said, memo to the A's offense: This is not 2005. Don't make me come up there.
Starting Lineups
A's:
Kendall
Swisher
Kotsay
Chavez
Thomas
Crosby
Payton
Kielty
Scutaro
TB:
Lugo
Crawford
Gomes
Huff
Hall
Wigginton
Norton
Hollins
Gathright
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"starting lineups coming soon!"
it's 2:40am!
wow
Please!
I got in late; wasn't sure if I had time to post it before I left this morning :)
by baseballgirl on May 7, 2006 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Got in late?
To truly be like the A's, though...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 7, 2006 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
she's on the verge of posting the lineup...
Tough week ahead...
I think if the A's are to have a successful month, they'll have to go at least 6-7 on the road. Not easy when the other two teams they'll face are the defending champs and the current leaders of the AL West.
McAfee should be home sweet home the rest of the month though, with SEA, SF, and KC stopping by...three teams that wish they could switch places with the A's.
BBG... You are up way too early
I'll show you my Nick Swisher bobblehead if you show me yours.
Macha's Thinking
Or maybe he picks it out of a hat.
Macha doesn't think
by Chavez4Prez on May 7, 2006 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't feel like posting a whole diary yet...
This is my last day on earth
<rock, paper, scissors>
<rock, paper, scissors...>
No, you can't see what I have in my glove!
Armpit music comes alive when you use a glove.
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 7, 2006 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
"I'm a little teapot, short and stout."
by spal on May 7, 2006 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait, did you ask me,
It seems like a long time
I'd stay and watch the game, but a crapload of homework awaits me today, angry that I completely dissed it yesterday because of Prom, and is coming upon me with a vengeance.
Then again...I'll try and do all the work I need to do on the computer when the game's on. I really can't afford to miss these assignments, but I also really can't afford to miss more baseball.
Do your homework
Oh please
Of course...
A new collection we can take up on AN...
Can I be the trainer?
I'm 5'7"!
Oh wait, someone might complain about having a girl in the dougout, huh....
I so call team beat writer!
No, since it's my idea, I get to be the trainer
Haven't tried...
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Who needs Larry Davis
From the Merc:
"It bothered me enough that I couldn't finish an inning, so two days without picking up a baseball would probably be good," he [Duchscherer] said.
In A's speak, that means he'll be out until at least the All-Star break. Our poor bullpen.
Hey, if the players
Haven't some of the Giants already tried that?
by GreenNGoldSooner on May 7, 2006 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Not really
I don't care...
Thomas is the best leadoff hitter on the team
Milton Bradley
The problem with the injuries, from my perspective, is that none of them are unexpected. All of these players have a history of getting hurt. There's no reason to think it won't continue in future seasons. The question seems to be not if, but when and for how long?
by IndianaAsfan on May 7, 2006 10:04 AM PDT reply actions
Seeds of Pain
by rubin sierra on May 7, 2006 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
April 27???
They can only make it retro-active....
It'll be interesting to see who they call up.
My guess is a catcher (since we'll probably need one this weekend in NY).
podsportsdaily.com/rss/mlboak
who called up?
by okathlfn on May 7, 2006 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
They haven't decided yet
by IndianaAsfan on May 7, 2006 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
allright, it's Lima time
Matchups . . .
by jarforcefatherofforce on May 7, 2006 10:10 AM PDT reply actions
Cerebral Halsey is making us proud
Supprisingly, I'm not being sarcastic.
"Cause only one language kicks ass, and that's the one we're teaching!"
OT
twin no hitters through 4.5.
well the Angles still have no hits.
by OaktownRajah on May 7, 2006 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Despite Panties best efforts, its still knotted up
by OaktownRajah on May 7, 2006 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Jose Lima
Just so we don't think we're the only ones...
"The Yankees drew 14 walks, went 5-for-5 on stolen-base attempts, laid down two sacrifice bunts and a third bunt that turned into a hit, got their leadoff man on in nine of 10 innings, had at least two runners on base in eight of the 10 innings, ground out enough great at-bats to force the Tampa Bay pitchers to throw 208 pitches ... and still lost.
But even more amazingly, they scored just two runs after all that. And of the 14 Yankees who walked, zero scored. Try that on your Strat-o-matic sometime."
And how about the Giants?
So whats the status on Street and Harden?
I don't know. But what about street?
by AsFan4mFrisco on May 7, 2006 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Duke gave up the lead yesterday
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Milton Bradley placed on the DL
No more excuses
Lineups
Kendall
Swisher
Kotsay
Chavez
Thomas
Crosby
Payton
Kielty
Scutaro
Other Guys:
Lugo
Crawford
Gomes
Huff
Hall
Wigginton
Norton
Hollins
Gathright
Not a bad lineup, all in all - maybe Macha was listening to us.
Ellis batting ninth...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 7, 2006 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
quick question
by Mr Athletics on May 7, 2006 1:07 PM PDT reply actions
MLB.tv has got the customary...
Maybe I shouldn't have said anything...
mlb.tv crapped out
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 1:12 PM PDT reply actions
Whoa there, Halsey
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 1:12 PM PDT reply actions
back
by Beanemyhero33 on May 7, 2006 1:16 PM PDT reply actions
well kendall tried something new. he hit it to the
by larrysgurl on May 7, 2006 1:17 PM PDT reply actions
More mlb.tv
I noticed that this year
It's definitely much crappier than last season.
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I do love the "King Call" feature
Wow, that guy that caught the foul ball...
No shirt, fanny pack...
by OaklandInvader on May 7, 2006 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
No shirt, middle aged, wearing
Thomas would have hit a home run
the A's should be fined everytime they swing at
by larrysgurl on May 7, 2006 1:33 PM PDT reply actions
ok...
by johnspaz7 on May 7, 2006 1:36 PM PDT reply actions
you can stay on the DL longer then 15 days.
by larrysgurl on May 7, 2006 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
He'll be eligible to come back
I'm
by johnspaz7 on May 7, 2006 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
What's going on?
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 1:42 PM PDT reply actions
Quick recap...
Then Gomes ground-rule doubled to center. Gathraight scores, 1-0 Rays, Crawford to third.
Then Huff grounded out to second. Crawford scores, 2-0 Rays.
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 7, 2006 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
plays in the top of the 3rd
Hey listen, off topic question here
F Yeah!
WOOO HOOO!
My extra innings is messing up
Yay!
Too bad it isn't spring training
Oh Ellie
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 1:51 PM PDT reply actions
What if it's the only good thing
Did that Kendall ball really go to the track?
<tear>
I'm so glad he's not hitting seventh today.
Swish continues to hit...
Man. Kotz is hacktastic.
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 1:55 PM PDT reply actions
Yikes
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 1:57 PM PDT reply actions
Halsey
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 2:04 PM PDT reply actions
dude, they gave Chavy the Halsey error
They'll probably change it.
They did.
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 7, 2006 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Still shows it as Chavy
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Fosse said the official scorer changed it.
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 7, 2006 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Gorgeous play by Crosby!!!!
For a second...
Whew!
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 7, 2006 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
It seems as though Crosby is bobbling routine
To be fair...
Did anyone hear
by Amnesiac727 on May 7, 2006 2:08 PM PDT reply actions
in terms of HIS offensive production he has given
by larrysgurl on May 7, 2006 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
He is 3rd on the team with 5 HR's, his average
by theblackpearl on May 7, 2006 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
No I think Frank Thomas agrees with you
by Amnesiac727 on May 7, 2006 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Crosby's at bats look worse than FT, Thomas is
by theblackpearl on May 7, 2006 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Crosby, as of late, has been fielding like the
Each play is like a new short.
that one play where he keeps falling gets me
by larrysgurl on May 7, 2006 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Aren't you just a little ray of sunshine.
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Not you again
by AsFan4mFrisco on May 7, 2006 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Hee!
Huh...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 7, 2006 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll give you a scouting report...
Mark Ellis knows this...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 7, 2006 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
An upside so far
wow, is Wigginton that dangerous
Bang, bang.
I wish our offense wasn't crappy
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 2:20 PM PDT reply actions
Ow ow ow
We need to be a little more patient
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 2:23 PM PDT reply actions
can i just say
Huddy: Uh... no.
watch out
by Hombre Palo on May 7, 2006 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
A hit!
<dies>
<Never placed on the DL>
Wheee!
Uh, no.
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 2:28 PM PDT reply actions
Ball 4 to the next four A's hitters...
They were telling KEndall not to swing to
by theblackpearl on May 7, 2006 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's go, Swish
If Swisher hits a HR here, he's the AL MVP
C'mon SWISHA!!
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 2:30 PM PDT reply actions
Looks like the errors been switched to Halsey
ErrorS?
What is with all these coaching visits
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 2:31 PM PDT reply actions
The Tampa Bay Devil Rays:
by Philip Christy on May 7, 2006 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The coaching visits aren't
Ah dammit
Eek
Kotsay up, bases loaded....
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 2:33 PM PDT reply actions
NOT the first pitch Kots
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 2:33 PM PDT reply actions
let's go kot - say
clap clap clap
Huddy: Uh... no.
That Kotsay pitch was outside
There are lots of players doing worse
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
oh get over it. it's not like this team is out
by larrysgurl on May 7, 2006 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
You think you're the only one that notices?
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
actually i do. you get on everybody you says
by larrysgurl on May 7, 2006 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaagh
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 2:34 PM PDT reply actions
argh.
damn
by spoiltvictorianchild on May 7, 2006 2:34 PM PDT reply actions
Kotsay no!!!!
why the hell is kotsay batting 3rd
by Suck My Moneyballs on May 7, 2006 2:35 PM PDT reply actions
He hit it hard
Hopefully we get some bullpen action and we can smack them around a little!!
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 2:35 PM PDT reply actions
As Bad as crosby is Hitting #3
1 home run-- a meager 250 average-- doesn't walk much-- that's a 7-8 hitter if I've ever seen it.
not all Macha's fault because so many of these guys are underperforming, but again-- just bat Swish and Chavy 2-3 and let the rest take care of itself.
Got his pitch count up at least
Two words...
;)
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
has fosse always been this much of a homer?
by spoiltvictorianchild on May 7, 2006 2:37 PM PDT reply actions
not really a homer comment
That's nothing compared
Man, he wants to make babies with Jason!! Lol. Ew.
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I must say their skipper knows what he's doing
is halsey even paying attention to the runner
by larrysgurl on May 7, 2006 2:42 PM PDT reply actions
Wow.
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 2:44 PM PDT reply actions
Really, really good job by Halsey
I'm happy with Halsey in the rotation!
NOW LET'S MAKE SURE HE DOESN'T GET THE L!!!!
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 2:44 PM PDT reply actions
LET'S GO NO-DECISION!!!
:)
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 7, 2006 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
This is really annoying.
The frikkin' Devil Rays are running wild.
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 2:46 PM PDT reply actions
They're like the Angels...
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 7, 2006 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
How many SB do they have today?
5
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
KIKO VROOM VROOM!
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yay! K!
arrrrgh.
When does the law of averages
I would feel so much better
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 2:51 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, it's a shame
Wake me up when Swisher comes to bat
Or even a hit
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
First pitch?
by okathlfn on May 7, 2006 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
this is seriously an all or nothing offense
by larrysgurl on May 7, 2006 2:58 PM PDT reply actions
Oh please get well soon Milton
Although I can't fault Macha for playing Kietly against a lefty. It's just too bad Bobby isn't hitting well at all. Join the club Bobby.
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 2:59 PM PDT reply actions
Looking at the team batting averages
When do we get to pencil in Haren at DH? Hell, pencil him in at left field. I don't care.
Heck, at this rate,
He would probably take more pitches
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
How much is Harden's injury hurting?
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 3:02 PM PDT reply actions
Don't cha know?
by OaklandInvader on May 7, 2006 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
As long as it'll pay
I don't know...
:)
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 7, 2006 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha, Rime of the Ancient Mariner reference...
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Lol, awesome post!!
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
As long as we don't kill it.
Kiko is my hero.
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 3:05 PM PDT reply actions
I smell runs this inning.
That's a start!
Ok, FYI A's: this bullpen is BAD
Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOO A'S!!!!
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 3:09 PM PDT reply actions
Woo, batting average climbs to .215
New thread mojo?
Balk!
um...<looks at who's batting>...what?
Never mind.
Eeek... Kendall up, runner on first, no outs...
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 3:09 PM PDT reply actions
runner on second
Huddy: Uh... no.
Okay, runner no longer on first...
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Kendall doing what he's best at.
<Kendall tackles ArakSOT>
by FormerHuntsvilleStar on May 7, 2006 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
LET'S GO SWIIIIISSSSHHH!
yes!
let's go swisher!!!
clap clap
clap clap clap
Huddy: Uh... no.
Uh, he did NOT try to get out of the way
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 3:12 PM PDT reply actions
Weeee!
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 3:12 PM PDT reply actions
3-1 to Swish.
UGH.
Kotsay, c'mon
by Chavinator on May 7, 2006 3:16 PM PDT reply actions
come on!!
Huddy: Uh... no.
Come on Kots - make him throw strikes
Pleeeeease!
Darn.
oh nooooooooooooooooooooo
<Breathes>
<tries not to jump out window>
<jumps anyway>
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 3:18 PM PDT reply actions
Are you serious Kotsay?
come on chavy
Huddy: Uh... no.
Only the A's can't take advantage of this situ.
They'll pitch around Chavy to
Let's go Chavvy!
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 3:19 PM PDT reply actions
You can't leave us here!
Enough room for the entire AN?
Who's reading stories?
OMG!!!
Our pitching isn't really the problem
But this offense...man....
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
how do you ground out when they're trying to
we really suck.
Huddy: Uh... no.
Too early to call game over?
Fire Gerald Perry!
But hire him as Swish's personal coach
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
They should hire FT as hitting coach
by AsFan4mFrisco on May 7, 2006 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
It's painful
Yup
Lack of heart?
Damn, I'm so tired of having to bitch about the inability to score runs from third with less than 2 outs.
Do other teams in the league have more success than us? It really seems like it.
by nycfan @ Athletics Nation on May 7, 2006 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions

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