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Rock Bottom?

Several folks on the threads referred to this night as rock bottom before it even ended.  I'm not so sure we can make that claim yet.  Why?  The A's still have to play two more games against the Royals and who knows what might happen?  The way the A's bats are going right now, it very well could happen.

There is very little to say that's good news coming off losing to a team that now has a meager 12 wins on the season.  But Frank Thomas is awakening.  Even since Chicago, he has been raking and he has a .991 OPS in May.  Nick Swisher hasn't gone into that long and protracted slump that everyone has been fearing.

Haren pitched well, but the A's need to score more runs against Setherton.  This is a guy who has a 6.08 ERA and had a 6.62 ERA for the A's last season.  Either that or they need to get to Mike Wood, a guy with a 5.42 ERA in his career and a 5.04 ERA this season.  Or they should've gotten to Mr. 50/50, Ambiorix Burgos, who up until tonight had been 5/10 in save opportunities.  He also was sporting a 7.23 ERA.

But as Ken Macha said:

"There's some light [at the end of the tunnel]," Macha said. "Hopefully it's not a train coming."

In addition to the news on Harden coming back soon (keep your fingers, toes and any other available appendages crossed), this is some of the news on the other missing Athletics:

Righty reliever Jay Witasick, on the DL with a sprained ankle since April 14, passed his fielding test on Monday and will start a two-game rehab assignment with Sacramento on Tuesday -- he could be back this weekend, too.

Righty starter Esteban Loaiza, DL'd since April 29, with a strained trapezius, will pitch for Sacramento on Wednesday. His return date likely will be determined in part by the radar readings -- the A's would like to see his fastball at 88 mph or higher. He topped out at 86 mph during a simulated game in Chicago last week.

Outfielder Milton Bradley, DL'd retroactively to April 27, with a sprained knee that led to a strained oblique, will take batting practice with the team on Tuesday. Barring a setback, he's slated to start what's expected to be a brief rehab stint somewhere in the Minors this weekend.

Is this really rock bottom?  Who knows, but I'm suddenly dreading the next two games in this series like a trip to the proctologist.

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I'm sorry....
I think Macha should go.

There ain't a big trade on the horizon, unless beane gives up at some point and trades Zito... or unless he can find someone to take Crosby, but then who would play SS??

You can;t fire the players.. but somehow..someway a spark must be lit.

I find his lineup tinkering annoying and a contributing factor to the team's poor hitting;

and his pitching decisions increasingly strange-- like tonight. Sure he's working with a AAA bullpen-- but he's exacerbating the problem.

I think BB has to pull the trigger on this one soon-- this is too good of a team to be languishing ever closer to last place.

oaktoon

by oaktoon on May 29, 2006 9:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure it's
"too good a team"--it has two marginal starters, the worst pen in the league, and a very mediocre lineup.

When healthy, we'll be better--but Haren still won't be very good after 120 pitches on a night when his fastball isn't sinking and he doesn't have his good command. That's where Macha's judgment scares me. A good pitcher, when he's totally gassed on a mediocre night, isn't better than a AAAA pitcher. Not that it necessarily mattered tonight.

by Nico on May 29, 2006 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Note similarities to last year...
There's a reason that the team is managed by Macha and Beane and others, and not by AN. Our trigger-happy mentality may lend itself well to fantasy baseball and the like, but it doesn't work at the major league level.

Today's game was frustrating. I should know as I was there to see it firsthand.

You can't fault Macha for Haren giving up early runs, for Jay Payton muffing a play in Right Field, and throwing to second allowing the runner to score from first on what was really a long single...

You can't fault Macha for the team's ace (Harden) pulling a muscle on a defensive stab.

You can't fault Macha for the team's free agent pitcher (Loaiza) being a shadow of his former self.

You can't fault Macha for Duchscherer coming up lame, for Crosby's many injuries, or for Huston Street proving he's human.

You can't fault Macha for DJ's slump. You can't fault Macha for Ellis's slump, or Scutaro's slump, or the fact that Antonio Perez looks completely lost.

Sure, you can fault Macha for lineup machinations, for leaving pitchers in too long or pulling them too early, but as professional ball players, the A's have to be able to score more than 4 runs (two coming on solo HRs, and one a bases loaded walk) against a team like the Royals and a pitcher like Etherton.

If you look at the game's finish, you have to believe the right players were in the game with it on the line, with only the possible exception of Kendall. It was Chavez who hit in a double play to end the game, and Thomas would have been the tying or winning run on deck. Who would you have preferred up there instead? Melhuse or Kielty?

I don't always agree with Macha. I muttered a few things tonight. But as with last year, we are trying to keep afloat when things are not exactly going our way. I believe the team needs more "grit and intensity" --- yikes... but something that shows urgency. That can come from anywhere. A change at manager would not do it for this team, and we're very lucky Billy Beane knows that.

by louismg on May 29, 2006 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good post Louis.
I agree with you...as fans we get a little hysterical over losses. The main problem with the current team is that we had too many pitchers with problems and the same old problem we will always have. The owners don't spend the money to keep talent. Sure would like to see Miggy in the batting order...or Dye..or Giambi.  Hudson and Mulder were better than Blanton and saarloos. etc

by IM4Oakgal on May 29, 2006 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't be sorry...
I agree with most of what you said...although I do NOT want to see Zito go.  

Macha's tinkering with the lineup limits our players ability to get settled and feel comfortable.  Seems like we have a lineup that works well (Zito's game against Texas) and then the next night it's completely different.  

And is it just me?  In his last start, Macha takes Haren out when he really wasn't pitching that badly and wasn't at a high pitch count.  True, the bullpen came through that night, but that's an aberration.

Then, last night, he leaves Haren in...  I'm not sure which was the right/wrong decision, but I just don't get his mindset.

by luvsthecurveball on May 30, 2006 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

changes
trade for craig wilson, have DJ back up wilson and thomas.
ginter up, scutaro down.
any AAA pitcher (windsor, casilla, ginter) up, karsay down.

why the hell did we bring in steve karsay??

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 29, 2006 9:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, since we're short
on relievers, is there anyone else who couldn't crack the Indians' bullpen?

by Nico on May 29, 2006 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, especially considering
the indians even gave danny frickin graves a shot over karsay.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 29, 2006 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Craig Wilson
ESPN says Wilson's playing time will be cut down now that Casey is back off the DL.  Wasn't there a rumor of the Duke for Craig Wilson early this spring?  I would package a Bobby Kielty and Saarloos for Wilson.  

by What Would Rickey Do on May 30, 2006 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

excellent points:
Karsay-didn't like it when it went down and hopefull this guy will get flushed ASAP.

Ellis-didn't like that contract during the off season either. time to bring up ginter and his 3 million, send down scoot (3 for 60, or something!!!) and sit ellis and platoon him or make him a supersub.

hunker down, hope for the injuried dudes to return ASAP and hope for the best.

Macha isn't the problem-yet.

"The Matt Watson/Chiba Lotte Marines Fan Club"-The Committee is accepting new memberships (please pay in Yen). "Raking" numbers soon to be posted.

by bigelephant on May 30, 2006 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ellis deserves a longer time to come around
He was literally our best hitter last year and had a huge second half.

I agree on Scutaro though...and to think people wanted him to play fulltime in April.

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on May 30, 2006 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

anaybody know how Ellis hits
when he bats leadoff, vs. when he's batting far down in the order?

by OaklandSi on May 30, 2006 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a link
Go here and scroll way down.
"I really don't see how it affects me that directly except for doing these interviews." -- Brad Halsey on giving up No. 714

by day-to-day on May 30, 2006 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks, Blez
makes it hard to argue for keeping him batting leadoff

by OaklandSi on May 30, 2006 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did not write "thanks Blez"
I only wrote "thanks"
I apologize for the computer's adding something that I didn't write...

by OaklandSi on May 30, 2006 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Karsay is this years Mecir
Macha could never use Mecir with out a problem and he is repeating the same thing with Karsay this year.
Morada Mudshark

by Morada Mudshark on May 30, 2006 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he has good velocity
but appears quite hittable

by OaklandSi on May 30, 2006 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

understatement, by a mile
"The Matt Watson/Chiba Lotte Marines Fan Club"-The Committee is accepting new memberships (please pay in Yen). "Raking" numbers soon to be posted.

by bigelephant on May 30, 2006 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

understatement, redux
"The Matt Watson/Chiba Lotte Marines Fan Club"-The Committee is accepting new memberships (please pay in Yen). "Raking" numbers soon to be posted.

by bigelephant on May 30, 2006 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's right
and his velocity has been clocked pretty consistently in the 94-90 range.

that's what I said-- his velocity is good but he's hittable (location and movement not so good)

by OaklandSi on May 30, 2006 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

games I've watched (not all mind u)
karsay hasn't been above 90 much.
"The Matt Watson/Chiba Lotte Marines Fan Club"-The Committee is accepting new memberships (please pay in Yen). "Raking" numbers soon to be posted.

by bigelephant on May 30, 2006 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been present at two games
where he pitched. Both times his velocity was clocked consistently above 90, and a good number of times at 94-95 mph. (this includes last night's game against KC).

that said, it's clear his location and movement aren't great.

by OaklandSi on May 30, 2006 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a location problem, all right!
The problem is he's located on the mound, pitching for us.
New advertising campaign...A's Brand Baseball: Blink, and You'll Miss It. - Kyli

by McFood on May 30, 2006 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me just start off by saying....
That reguardless of the outcome of a game, despite burying my face in my hands after seeing the score, Blez has the amazing ability to make it all seem ok.  Theres hope at the end of every single one of your posts Blez and I thank you for that.  Im going to put on my Athletics cap now, and march out into the rain.
I love the smell of the East Bay in the morning!

by Amnesiac727 on May 29, 2006 9:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree!
This site makes the tough times a little bit easier.

by signmebilly on May 29, 2006 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's one of the nicest things
anyone has ever said to me on this site because believe me, I feel like I'm right there on the edge with everyone else.  I have to very consciously try and be calm in my wraps.

I appreciate it.

I'm also pretty sure I'm going to catch hell from my family for this loss tomorrow.

by Tyler Bleszinski on May 29, 2006 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

just remember
if your family picks on you too much, you've got an entire nation of fans who got you covered...

AN vs. the Blez family...  <evil laugh>

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on May 29, 2006 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His brother loves me!
New advertising campaign...A's Brand Baseball: Blink, and You'll Miss It. - Kyli

by McFood on May 30, 2006 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Royals
were rolling on a losing streak of their own when they got to Gotham City and took the first game in a three game series.

The Yankees rebounded and still took the series.

I think the A's can possibly follow suit and shove the Royals under the carpet a bit.

UC Davis cable lacks good sports channels.

by Hit4TheCycle on May 29, 2006 9:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We absolutely can.
AND we could have used a sweep. But I'll take 2 out of 3. Especially now.

by Nico on May 29, 2006 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

we were on quite a
lose the first - take the second and third game streak pre-may, it be quite fitting if we followed suit post-may (almost) as well. i defintiely think that, as of tonite, the momentum was against them. maybe they needed tonites loss in order to kick them into gear <snickers at that statement>

i wouldnt be surprised to see them take the next two. hell, if theyre not pissed off enough right now....

"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches." - Jim Bouton

by digsthelongball on May 29, 2006 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You want to know something?
The Rheinecker trade disturbed me.  Because at the beginning of last season, before he got hurt, he was finally putting it all together.

Now he might not continue and other teams are going to get video on him, but he really seemed like he was on the cusp of being a solid three starter last year, finally.

I don't mind losing Bynum, but I really hope Dominguez produces.

by Tyler Bleszinski on May 29, 2006 9:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

he was never going to start here
the guy doesn't have great upside.  if dominguez works out, it'll be a steal.  if not, no big loss.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones." -BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on May 29, 2006 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree ...
I never liked the Rheinecker trade.  I felt like we traded for a guy who has had many chances at the ML level (Dominguez) and failed every time for a guy (Rheinecker) who has never been anything but stellar when healthy at the AAA level.  Rheinecker may not be the next coming of Randy Johnson, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him really tear through the league once or twice before hitters have seen him a little.  He seemed like our best option (right there with Saarloos) as a sixth starter and we essentially gave him away.  I have a feeling he might be very valuable for Texas the rest of the year, as Koronka has been so far.  (That said, I expect Koronka to be lit up from here on out.)

by iceplant on May 30, 2006 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

three positives of tonite:
  1. DJ flied out to DeJesus -- yes, DeJesus, as in the CF DeJesus. so, thats an improvement.
  2. Crosby made contact not once, but twice. looks to me like his eye is getting better, which means he's right in line with the cosmos and it is really, in fact, the tail-end of may.
  3. FT homered. which is all we can ask from him.
"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches." - Jim Bouton

by digsthelongball on May 29, 2006 9:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

reztips calls in on extra innings...
and it sounds like him typing. i can almost hear the smilies.
Damn! Street is so imposing, he even causes the earth itself to freeze in fear! - monkeyball

by Jjjsixsix on May 29, 2006 9:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Because he's
"Reztips from Berkeley". Berkeley does not condone him in any way.

by Nico on May 29, 2006 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aww, man! I was just about to post to
rly's comment and you took him away!
Coconut

by Ice Cream on May 29, 2006 9:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmmm....
I thought something had disappeared....
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on May 29, 2006 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great, now where
am I going to pack my fudge?

by Nico on May 29, 2006 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't have to
When you make fudge, you don't pack it. It's still in semi-liquid form.  But if you care to try, use the kitchen for all parts of fudge preparation.  

Where these people get all their cooking information, I'll never know.

by MobiusKlein on May 29, 2006 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is my reply to the comment....
I dont think anyone is sucking up to anyone. Its so easy, and I know this from the time I've put into journalism, to lash out in frustration, anger or disappointment.  I have come across many who constantly bash players in the paper for what they did or didnt do.  The same rule applies here.  We can all sit here and sulk and bash Macha or any of the Athletics players for that matter, but where does that get us? Anyone one can yell and scream that the sky is falling (that goes for you) but I have more respect for those who look up to the sky before joining the panic bandwagon.
I love the smell of the East Bay in the morning!

by Amnesiac727 on May 29, 2006 10:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I know Blez,
and I can vouch for the fact that he is not a suck-up. He may be a violent, smelly, kleptomaniacal, back-stabbing, flatulent, vegan pansy, but he is not a suck-up. He's also no taller than 5'6".

by Nico on May 29, 2006 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know Blez but I know Pez...
and I've been known to suck up a few in a violent, smelly, kleptomaniacal, back-stabbing, flatulent, vegan pansy kind of way.
Coconut

by Ice Cream on May 29, 2006 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew Rez,
but dat mad hunny dun also flied. :-)

The smilie shows that I'm really just having fun with y'all.

by Nico on May 29, 2006 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean he disappeared like a sailboat...
over the horizon? The simile shows that I'm really just having fun with yawl!
Coconut

by Ice Cream on May 29, 2006 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, he is so taller than 5'6"
I've seen him and I assure you he is at least 5'6 1/2".
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on May 29, 2006 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was almost
Wizard of Oz-ish
I love the smell of the East Bay in the morning!

by Amnesiac727 on May 29, 2006 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, Dorothy got to go home
Do you think the A's could find home if they wore red ruby cleats?
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on May 29, 2006 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, that would mean
Durazo was on the Angels.

by Nico on May 29, 2006 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Durazo?...he sounds familiar....
...but I cant put my finger on it.
I love the smell of the East Bay in the morning!

by Amnesiac727 on May 29, 2006 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LET'S GO OAK-LAND!
"It was pretty sweet. I could see the Oakland Airport."

by Daveed on May 29, 2006 10:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

back from my meeting
have not checked the final score to see if kc tacked on more runs in the bottom of the 8th?    I hope this is rock bottom.  

Like most of us on this site....last year I continued to show up as fans despite my up and down feelings last year...was rewarded with that great run in June and July and hope right up til the final two weeks before we blew it.

the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...But 2006...gabba-gabba.

by ak_A on May 29, 2006 10:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The way the A's are going,
despite being the road team, the Royals probably did tack on some runs in the bottom of the 8th.

by Nico on May 29, 2006 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They may
have also tacked on a "S" for that one guy with the funny name.

We all know what a "S" equivalates too as well. =[

UC Davis cable lacks good sports channels.

by Hit4TheCycle on May 29, 2006 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

as steve martin used to say
ex-cusssseee me!  
See what this team's performance has done to me...sliping into "i dont give a shit-i-tes"  montonous langour.
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...But 2006...gabba-gabba.

by ak_A on May 29, 2006 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

languor
Lack of physical or mental energy; listlessness. See Synonyms at lethargy.
A dreamy, lazy mood or quality: "It was hot, yet with a sweet languor about it" (Theodore Dreiser).
Oppressive quiet or stillness.
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...But 2006...gabba-gabba.

by ak_A on May 29, 2006 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow...I know it wont last...
And there is a turnaround...

But are we the dead worst team in the league right now at this moment?  Not sure I could answer no......

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on May 29, 2006 10:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh Boy
Well, Byrnes extended his hitting streak to 12 games with two homers, Rheinecker pitched 8 1/3 shutout innings and we lost to the Royals....'nuff said.

by KoolAidDrinker on May 29, 2006 10:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

When it's bad
you are genuinely excited at the thought of the return of Jay Witasick.  Well, maybe "excited" is too strong a word.  But I'm relieved.

I said it last night.  I'll repeat it tonight.

Do not take the Texas Rangers lightly.

by bear88 on May 29, 2006 10:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I am very worried too.
Seattle isn't as easy to beat up on this year IMO...and Texas is good. I don't think having a great run will pull us up as much in the division as last year. and the Angels..always a snake in the grass waiting to strike.

by IM4Oakgal on May 29, 2006 11:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Rock Bottom?
On Fireworks Night?  Impossible!!

by Mission1929 on May 29, 2006 11:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree
The A's always lose on fireworks night, rare if they win on that night. Add Payton's error and you got a recipe for disaster, as I said last night the A's have not caught there breaks and it's looming big on the horizon, Macha is not to blame he sets the lineup, he's not a doctor he can't see how healthy people will be, sooner or later he'll get his props.
"Just throw strikes. I don't understand why that can't happen. You have a three-run lead. Just throw strikes."- Josh Lyman

by doublehustle22 on May 29, 2006 11:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A's troubles
Once again if we have a healthy bullpen that's a different game. Haren may not have to go out for the seventh, someone like Kennedy and Duke don't give up what Kiesler and Karsay do, and then Swish hits a walk off in the bottom of the 9th. When these guys get back, we'll take off like we did a year ago tonight.

by Eggman on May 30, 2006 1:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You can never count
on a run like last year.....That doesnt just happen when you flip a switch, no matter how good you are.....And a lot of the regulars arent good right now.
Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on May 30, 2006 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't need to count on it
When we were 15 under .500 last year and only 5 under at this point and 4 games back of Texas.

by Eggman on May 30, 2006 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, The A's scored 4 runs against the Royals!!
No matter how many pitchers are on the DL, the offense needs to pick it up BIG-TIME if the A's are going to have a resurgence like last year. And please don't tell me that Crosby going the other way for his one hit last night is a sign of great things to come. That shee-ott (i.e. excuses) get tiring.....

by DeeWayne on May 30, 2006 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice game danny boy
4 ER against one of the worst teams in the history of the game?

this team is a disaster

I gotta rock, I gotta rock, good sweet Christ do I gotta rock

by Lloyd Bonafide on May 30, 2006 2:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No, really, it's not so bad.
I'm halfway around the world from the Bay Area right now and I won't be back until July. By the time I get there, the A's ought to be back in business. They'd better be.

They're hanging in there. They're not 15 games behind the next team. The Mariners and the Angels aren't doing so well either. The A's just need to keep within reach of the Rangers until the cavalry arrives. Really, they could be doing much worse considering the eviscerated bullpen.

by gawker on May 30, 2006 2:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, but Kendall and Crosby wouldn't make the
hypothetical all-time active line-up. You'd replace with Hernandez and Ellis (or even Gitner at this point).

by DeeWayne on May 30, 2006 7:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I was at the game last night
despite Haren's so-so start and some defensive lapses (notably by Payton and Crosby), lack of hitting with -- you guessed it -- RISP cost the A's a winnable game.

A friend of mine at the game made the comment that the A's seemed to lack energy on the playing field. yes, I know, that's not a quantifiable observation, but I found it hard to refute.

by OaklandSi on May 30, 2006 8:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the scientific term is "flatness"... ;)
I'm going tonight, and dammit, I'd better be entertained.
Putting the "fun" in "perfunctory"

by Poppy on May 30, 2006 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Instead of dot racing, try...
purple micro-dot racing. You might not be entertained, but you sure as h-e-double-hockey-sticks won't be bored.
New advertising campaign...A's Brand Baseball: Blink, and You'll Miss It. - Kyli

by McFood on May 30, 2006 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

like my butt gets
from sitting at the computer chair with mlbtv and AN.
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...But 2006...gabba-gabba.

by ak_A on May 30, 2006 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your butt gets entertained?
Um, okay....
There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on May 30, 2006 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

flattened.
i need to get Tony Little's Gazelle machine set up in front of the computer...you can do it!
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...But 2006...gabba-gabba.

by ak_A on May 30, 2006 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno....
I don't think last night was rock bottom.  Close, but not quite there.

The Royals are taking a swing through the AL West on this trip, going to Seattle and Anaheim next.  Rock bottom would be if the A's lose this series to the Royals and the Mariners and Angels pound on 'em.  

by coffee roaster on May 30, 2006 8:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Watching the game last night...
The team, besides Swisher and Haren, just looked totally going through the motions.  I havent seen any emotion from anyone besides Swisher or Kotsay when he gets robbed of a hit.  Chavez had NO expression at all after a game ending double play, how is that possible?  And this coming from Chavy's biggest supporter.  

I worry why there seems to be no real fire or at least some anger at losing to one of the worst teams of all time.  Hell, KC was 3-22 on the road before last night.

There needs to be some fire...from somewhere....and we know it isnt coming from the current manager.  Maybe another Chavez bus speech is needed?

Bring back Hammer.

by OaktownPower on May 30, 2006 9:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

To borrow (and tweak) a line
from a popular sitcom:

It's like there's rock bottom, then 50 feet of crap, and then the A's.

That's how it feels sometimes. I just keep telling myself: "this is the Rivercats staff, this is the Rivercats staff, this is..."

When Harden, Duke, Kennedy and Witasick return, the entire pen will be transformed and all these average-at-best relievers can go back down to the minors where they belong.

Of course, none of that eases my misery at watching the Royals, THE ROYALS!!!, dominate our hitters all night long. I mean, did we ever get the leadoff man on base? I know the Royals did more often than not. But let's address one drunken-stupor-inducing aspect of the team at a time. F'n May.

A's 2006 record when I attend: 3-5

by peanut gallery on May 30, 2006 9:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we need a 'safe' thread
For all of us who sincerely wish to become ostriches and bury our heads in the sand.

by Squeaky on May 30, 2006 9:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

DLD
Can intangibles exist? Only the ones you can touch.

by salb918 on May 30, 2006 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, Blez, are you saying...
...that your proctologist isn't a hot, blonde,  27-year-old Swedish woman?
"I was always high on X. Obviously, that hasn't changed." -- Jake Peavy

by spal on May 30, 2006 10:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"She's a man, baby!"
New advertising campaign...A's Brand Baseball: Blink, and You'll Miss It. - Kyli

by McFood on May 30, 2006 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

She'll be <banned>, maybe.
Can intangibles exist? Only the ones you can touch.

by salb918 on May 30, 2006 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's why i switched
to a woman doctor...smaller hands. makes a difference.
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...But 2006...gabba-gabba.

by ak_A on May 30, 2006 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All optimism lost
i really mean it this time.  I have lost my love for the team.  No longer do I get all riled up over a game and that sucks.  One of the best things about summer is baseball and the A's are sucking badly.  I willo have to watch them from afar as I can't take the pain.  Please make it stop, boys

by Alejandro on May 30, 2006 10:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Crapola
From the Hardball Times

Justin Duchscherer (RHP, OAK)
A couple of weeks ago, the news that Duchscherer had some minor soreness in his pitching elbow was met with little concern around the A's. That false hope is likely to change with the latest news.

While doing some rehab work on his pitching forearm and elbow, he felt pain in his pitching elbow. This was just some lightweight work with his wrist, and his elbow started barking at him. This suggests the main tendon in his forearm is either the source of the pain or it is rubbing up against the painful area in his pitching elbow. He underwent an MRI on the elbow, but the cause of the pain was not discovered conclusively. This prevents the medical staff from treating it with a cortisone injection until they know the exact cause.

The A's haven't provided any additional information, but this latest report hints that he's back at square one and a quick 15-day DL stint is a fleeting wish. It's not out of the question this setback will push his return to sometime after the All-Star break, perhaps late in July.

"I like playing for Oakland, they have a very colorful uniform" Rickey Henderson

by natsirt on May 30, 2006 11:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What's the date on that?
During last night's broadcast, they said he was feeling better and would start throwing "soon."
Putting the "fun" in "perfunctory"

by Poppy on May 30, 2006 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

30 May
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-baseball-injury-report3/

Not sure if the A's announcers can be trusted with injury updates...

Can intangibles exist? Only the ones you can touch.

by salb918 on May 30, 2006 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FACK
FACK FACK FACKITY FACK

{{{sigh}}}

Putting the "fun" in "perfunctory"

by Poppy on May 30, 2006 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Figures.
I don't think Brad's going to be able to sex the Ranger's lineup to death. -- Jennifer

by Sharon on May 30, 2006 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should've
sold high on the Duke during the off-season.  With his chronic back maladies and now a pesky arm problem, last year's season was probably his best, in terms of effectiveness and health.
I like Mickey Morabito's hair.

by franks a lot on May 30, 2006 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe so....sigh, the threads
these days are heavy with might-have-beens...and I am getting into it too.  sheez, thanks a lot, franks a lot!
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...in 2006, the Royals dugout chanted gabba-gabba, One of us, one of us!

by ak_A on May 30, 2006 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When is The Gamer coming back?
He will be this years Crosby and spark the offense. I definitely agree with sending down Scutaro and calling up Ginter. He looked great yesterday for Sacto. Meyer looked awful. AN, let's stop with the panicking. On any given day, any team can beat any other team. It's just the way it goes. I'm sure we will take two of three from the Royals. Macha's doing what he can with what he has, and it's easy to pull Haren when you have a ML bullpen, not this current combination. I would have left him in as long as possible.

by A'sfansince1970 on May 30, 2006 11:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Last 10 games, we're 1-9
Looks pretty rock bottom to me.

OTOH, nowhere else to go but up.

"So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb." - Dark Helmet

by lonestar on May 30, 2006 12:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's just a bad spell
Don't worry, it's May-- yes, I know that sounds redundant--and Harden & the competent 'pen hurlers are on their way back.

Boy, whats with DJ?

by bluelightrain84 on May 30, 2006 12:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My heart hopes it is a bad spell,
but my brain cannot help but think it is the same old story for our beloved A's. I know, I know, last May we were 17-32 and went on a 71-42 roll to finish the season. However, we finished...SECOND. The truth is that this team has little sense of urgency (as expressed my many of you) because the supposed cavalry of Harden, Loaiza, Bradley, Duch, Witasik, and Kennedy are due back soon.
However, as much as I hate to say it, it would be half-a-miracle to get Harden back at full strength for half of the remainder of the season. I love the guy, but he is the baseball version of Grant Hill. Loaiza? The guy needs to stop spending time on his side burns and spend more on getting his velocity back. I still love the Bradley trade, but seeing Andre Ethier hit .303 in his first 65 at-bats with the Dodgers makes me cringe. As for the 3 bullpen guys, sure there presence is solid, but it is hard to get too happy when our offense only scores on solo shots and weak grounders with a runner on third. Take a look at our offensive "leaders" through today:

Swisher- .303
Kotsay- .281
Chavez- .279
Kendall- .265
Payton .252

What does it say when Jason friekin' Kendall has your 4th highest batting average? Or, when Jay Pay is fifth at .252?!?
Bottom line is that this time last year Chavy went crazy and gave the team a lashing after a loss in Atlanta. He felt the sense of urgency based on the mediocre performance from a young team. My fear is that this years urgency is lacking based on the comfort of knowing that the cavalry is due back soon, which it is...But, will the cavalry be enough?

by nfadil4 on May 30, 2006 12:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hope its not F Troop
the great playoff miss of 2004 followed by the good try of 2005...in 2006, the Royals dugout chanted gabba-gabba, One of us, one of us!

by ak_A on May 30, 2006 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With this many injured
yes, the calvary will make all the difference, as much as Crosby did coming back last year. Keep the faith!

by A'sfansince1970 on May 30, 2006 12:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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